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> <channel><title>Comments on: Alexis Swan: Is It Cost Effective To Jail Debtors?</title> <atom:link href="http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/</link> <description>Bermuda&#039;s online news magazine....a full multimedia experience!</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 02:01:07 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: street wise</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323502</link> <dc:creator>street wise</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:33:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323502</guid> <description><![CDATA[It is MUCH easier to read lower case type. Using all upper case is passe. Just sayin&#039;.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is MUCH easier to read lower case type. Using all upper case is passe. Just sayin&#8217;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Johnny</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323327</link> <dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:57:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323327</guid> <description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t get started on the NSC, the UBP spent 40 Mil on some grass!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get started on the NSC, the UBP spent 40 Mil on some grass!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew Carmichael</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323308</link> <dc:creator>Andrew Carmichael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:17:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323308</guid> <description><![CDATA[Not all fathers are &quot;Dead-Beat-Dads&quot;.  Just as not all mothers spend the child support on themselves.  While I hold my tongue from giving you a serious rebuke on your broad brush comment, I will remind you that each situation, like the people involved is different and should be looked at in that light.  If you are indeed a &quot;Pastor&quot;, then you should know better.  The movie &quot;Poverty in Paradise&quot;  was filmed to show and promote a certain view only, and does not show the other side of the story, good or bad.  I could make a case that males that don&#039;t pay child support were raised by single mothers and that ideology was passed on to them, but that is not right.  Long story short, you seem to be biased like our judicial system.  Step back &quot;Pastor&quot;!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all fathers are &#8220;Dead-Beat-Dads&#8221;.  Just as not all mothers spend the child support on themselves.  While I hold my tongue from giving you a serious rebuke on your broad brush comment, I will remind you that each situation, like the people involved is different and should be looked at in that light.  If you are indeed a &#8220;Pastor&#8221;, then you should know better.  The movie &#8220;Poverty in Paradise&#8221;  was filmed to show and promote a certain view only, and does not show the other side of the story, good or bad.  I could make a case that males that don&#8217;t pay child support were raised by single mothers and that ideology was passed on to them, but that is not right.  Long story short, you seem to be biased like our judicial system.  Step back &#8220;Pastor&#8221;!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mad Dawg</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323284</link> <dc:creator>Mad Dawg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:30:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323284</guid> <description><![CDATA[Did you think Obama won or lost his first debate with Romney?And who won the election?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you think Obama won or lost his first debate with Romney?</p><p> And who won the election?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mad Dawg</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323281</link> <dc:creator>Mad Dawg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:27:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323281</guid> <description><![CDATA[Why are we supposed to rely on what the PLP says?    Last night Blakeney boasted about how the pool had been completed &#039;on budget at $20m&#039;.   Yet the budget was actually $15m!  And the pool isn&#039;t even complete!   Every time he opens his mouth he&#039;s lying.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we supposed to rely on what the PLP says?    Last night Blakeney boasted about how the pool had been completed &#8216;on budget at $20m&#8217;.   Yet the budget was actually $15m!  And the pool isn&#8217;t even complete!   Every time he opens his mouth he&#8217;s lying.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mad Dawg</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323275</link> <dc:creator>Mad Dawg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:16:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323275</guid> <description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait for the debate between Dawn Simmons and Jeff Baron.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the debate between Dawn Simmons and Jeff Baron.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: swing voter</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323113</link> <dc:creator>swing voter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 04:36:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323113</guid> <description><![CDATA[Idiot, the race war has been over for YEARS. The 40 theives are no more...their children married black children, go to intergrated schools and cupmatch. they  congregate at beach fest and smoke weed together. get a f$%kin life will you]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiot, the race war has been over for YEARS. The 40 theives are no more&#8230;their children married black children, go to intergrated schools and cupmatch. they  congregate at beach fest and smoke weed together. get a f$%kin life will you</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Out of flight</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323075</link> <dc:creator>Out of flight</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:15:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323075</guid> <description><![CDATA[Poor girl. Got wiped clean by Lawrence Scott on ZBM and now this. She sat in a Bright Temple church service and was never recognized because NOBODY knew who she was. Wow. What can we say.
She will lose and you won&#039;t hear a word from her for 3 years. Unless of course the OBA waste their efforts and put her in the Senate where Kenneth Bascome did not shine....not one noteable accomplishment and not one from Gina Spence who also went there and nothing from the young OBA person there now who nobody knows. What&#039;s her name?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor girl. Got wiped clean by Lawrence Scott on ZBM and now this. She sat in a Bright Temple church service and was never recognized because NOBODY knew who she was. Wow. What can we say.<br
/> She will lose and you won&#8217;t hear a word from her for 3 years. Unless of course the OBA waste their efforts and put her in the Senate where Kenneth Bascome did not shine&#8230;.not one noteable accomplishment and not one from Gina Spence who also went there and nothing from the young OBA person there now who nobody knows. What&#8217;s her name?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: UK Dependent Territory Citizen</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323063</link> <dc:creator>UK Dependent Territory Citizen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:57:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323063</guid> <description><![CDATA[Nandi is pretty thats allbthat matters]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nandi is pretty thats allbthat matters</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yes Aye</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323005</link> <dc:creator>Yes Aye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:10:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323005</guid> <description><![CDATA[Pastor, Lawrence Scott isn&#039;t a lawyer. He works at the airport.Stop making excuses for your Party&#039;s lackluster candidates.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor, Lawrence Scott isn&#8217;t a lawyer. He works at the airport.</p><p>Stop making excuses for your Party&#8217;s lackluster candidates.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yes Aye</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-323000</link> <dc:creator>Yes Aye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:03:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-323000</guid> <description><![CDATA[You seem to have your mind made up, so why do you want to see anything from the plp?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to have your mind made up, so why do you want to see anything from the plp?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yes Aye</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322996</link> <dc:creator>Yes Aye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:02:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322996</guid> <description><![CDATA[Who said PLP are going to do things differently. Not everyone thinks the world is ending like you.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said PLP are going to do things differently. Not everyone thinks the world is ending like you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yes Aye</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322995</link> <dc:creator>Yes Aye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:00:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322995</guid> <description><![CDATA[Just so you know, the laws allow for courts to garnish wages.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know, the laws allow for courts to garnish wages.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Come Correct</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322960</link> <dc:creator>Come Correct</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:02:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322960</guid> <description><![CDATA[Lol you&#039;re one to talk, I thought you weren&#039;t commenting on here anymore with all the commentors cowardly hiding behind their anonymous names, or did your handlers finally take the muzzle off. I&#039;m willing to bet even Andre Curtis will get more than 8 votes, get back in your cage.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol you&#8217;re one to talk, I thought you weren&#8217;t commenting on here anymore with all the commentors cowardly hiding behind their anonymous names, or did your handlers finally take the muzzle off. I&#8217;m willing to bet even Andre Curtis will get more than 8 votes, get back in your cage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Come Correct</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322953</link> <dc:creator>Come Correct</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:52:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322953</guid> <description><![CDATA[Failure is the key to success, so how is she supposed to learn and grow? Doesn&#039;t really matter because the more she tries to rise to the occasion the more you lot will beat her down...who the hell would want to be a candidate on this island with the constant abuse from people that haven&#039;t stepped up like she has? Before anyone talks a pack, this guy is drawing a ganja leaf on his ballot and voting for that, so if Premier Cox says there&#039;s no spoiled ballots in her constituency this time, I&#039;ll have something to say.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Failure is the key to success, so how is she supposed to learn and grow? Doesn&#8217;t really matter because the more she tries to rise to the occasion the more you lot will beat her down&#8230;who the hell would want to be a candidate on this island with the constant abuse from people that haven&#8217;t stepped up like she has? Before anyone talks a pack, this guy is drawing a ganja leaf on his ballot and voting for that, so if Premier Cox says there&#8217;s no spoiled ballots in her constituency this time, I&#8217;ll have something to say.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pastor Syl Hayward</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322911</link> <dc:creator>Pastor Syl Hayward</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:45:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322911</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ Vote for me: You say, &quot; Bermuda’s laws have been traditionally biased against those least likely to defend themselves, i.e. the average worker (that the OBA often calls people who vote on emotion). Thus we have draconian penalties for non payment of debt, traffic violations etc but relatively minor penalities for white collar crimes involving theft of thousands, if not millions of dollars.&quot;I say, if you and the government have recognized this fact, and have not done ANYTHING about it over the last 14 years, shame on you! You call yourselves &quot;standing strong for Bermudians&quot; yet those who are the most in need of defense/support/services/etc., in other words, the ones I thought you would be championing back in elections past when I voted for you, are the ones who are even worse off than they were before you took over the government.This, to me, is indefensible.I didn&#039;t get to see the debate last night, but I will say this. Larry Scott is a lawyer, used to thinking on his feet and building arguments to defend even those who are guilty. Alexis Swan is, I  believe, accountant who works with figures. I would bet she would not come out looking top-of-the-trees against a skilled and experienced argumentarian.I think of my mom, who ran several times for the PLP in any district they placed her, even UBP safe seats like Paget East. She  was passionate about Bermuda&#039;s needs of the times, and about her party, the PLP of the day (not the PLP of today, by any means), and she could argue points with most folks, but if they had set her up to debate against someone like Dr. Masters, DeForest Trimingham, or God Forbid, Sir Henry Tucker, UBP candidates for Paget during the time she was a PLP candidate, she would have had a pretty hard time of it.All that to say, Ms. Swan is a bright young lady whose strong suit may not necessarily be debating with lawyers, but I would trust her integrity any day over Mr. Scott who could write such a scathing denunciation of his party as &quot;4%&quot; and then present himself as a candidate for the same party.
In addition, Ms. Swan&#039;s debate performance, good or bad, has nothing whatsoever to do with the issues she refers to here. And I refer you back to my opening paragraphs.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Vote for me: You say, &#8221; Bermuda’s laws have been traditionally biased against those least likely to defend themselves, i.e. the average worker (that the OBA often calls people who vote on emotion). Thus we have draconian penalties for non payment of debt, traffic violations etc but relatively minor penalities for white collar crimes involving theft of thousands, if not millions of dollars.&#8221;</p><p>I say, if you and the government have recognized this fact, and have not done ANYTHING about it over the last 14 years, shame on you! You call yourselves &#8220;standing strong for Bermudians&#8221; yet those who are the most in need of defense/support/services/etc., in other words, the ones I thought you would be championing back in elections past when I voted for you, are the ones who are even worse off than they were before you took over the government.</p><p>This, to me, is indefensible.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t get to see the debate last night, but I will say this. Larry Scott is a lawyer, used to thinking on his feet and building arguments to defend even those who are guilty. Alexis Swan is, I  believe, accountant who works with figures. I would bet she would not come out looking top-of-the-trees against a skilled and experienced argumentarian.</p><p>I think of my mom, who ran several times for the PLP in any district they placed her, even UBP safe seats like Paget East. She  was passionate about Bermuda&#8217;s needs of the times, and about her party, the PLP of the day (not the PLP of today, by any means), and she could argue points with most folks, but if they had set her up to debate against someone like Dr. Masters, DeForest Trimingham, or God Forbid, Sir Henry Tucker, UBP candidates for Paget during the time she was a PLP candidate, she would have had a pretty hard time of it.</p><p>All that to say, Ms. Swan is a bright young lady whose strong suit may not necessarily be debating with lawyers, but I would trust her integrity any day over Mr. Scott who could write such a scathing denunciation of his party as &#8220;4%&#8221; and then present himself as a candidate for the same party.<br
/> In addition, Ms. Swan&#8217;s debate performance, good or bad, has nothing whatsoever to do with the issues she refers to here. And I refer you back to my opening paragraphs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mad Dawg</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322895</link> <dc:creator>Mad Dawg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:21:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322895</guid> <description><![CDATA[So it sounds like you agree with Ms Swan.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it sounds like you agree with Ms Swan.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mad Dawg</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322891</link> <dc:creator>Mad Dawg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:19:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322891</guid> <description><![CDATA[You can in theory legislate a lendng rate of say 2%.   The only problem is that no lenders will participate in that business.   If there is a limit on what lenders can charge, loans will become more scarce, and at some point unavailable at all.  It&#039;s a simple fact.As for your comment about property prices, everywhere in the developed world there are some people who can&#039;t afford to buy a home.   And some that don&#039;t want to.The reason people in Bermuda are not buying homes is not because they can&#039;t afford to.  It&#039;s because the economy is unsound, and the economic future is uncertain.   Houses and apartments stand empty in their hundreds, and the government responds by building even more.  Ownership of property is risky and unattractive in Bermuda, hence the lack of buyers.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can in theory legislate a lendng rate of say 2%.   The only problem is that no lenders will participate in that business.   If there is a limit on what lenders can charge, loans will become more scarce, and at some point unavailable at all.  It&#8217;s a simple fact.</p><p>As for your comment about property prices, everywhere in the developed world there are some people who can&#8217;t afford to buy a home.   And some that don&#8217;t want to.</p><p>The reason people in Bermuda are not buying homes is not because they can&#8217;t afford to.  It&#8217;s because the economy is unsound, and the economic future is uncertain.   Houses and apartments stand empty in their hundreds, and the government responds by building even more.  Ownership of property is risky and unattractive in Bermuda, hence the lack of buyers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Verbal Kint</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322861</link> <dc:creator>Verbal Kint</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:10:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322861</guid> <description><![CDATA[Will the people who post this please note that Jim Woolridge was speaking to people in the media when he said that and not people in the UBP.  By the way, C.V, got so upset with the UBP that he left the party,right?  No?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the people who post this please note that Jim Woolridge was speaking to people in the media when he said that and not people in the UBP.  By the way, C.V, got so upset with the UBP that he left the party,right?  No?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pastor Syl Hayward</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322851</link> <dc:creator>Pastor Syl Hayward</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:57:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322851</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ Street Wise, it goes a little deeper even than that. A man can be sent to jail for not paying a fine and when he comes out that fine is cancelled. It is &quot;jail in lieu of payment.&quot;However, when a woman with children is in debt, and her child support payments, if paid, would cover that debt, the court doesn&#039;t take that into consideration and require the dead-beat-dad to pay his arrears so that she can pay her debts. Instead, they send the woman to jail for non-payment (while the DBD walks around free and often making more babies) and she STILL owes that money when she comes out, now with a prison record and even less possibility of finding a job and paying off the debt.This situation was highlighted in that movie put out a couple of years back by the Coalition for the Protection of Children - I think the name was &quot;Poverty in Paradise&quot; or something similar. The only comment I heard from PLP supporters at that time related to whether or not the women in the film had weaves and their nails done, as if any woman with any pride would appear in a film without trying to look their best. Not a peep about the inequities and no action to redress the situation.
Some of these women are owed tens of thousands of dollars, while the fathers are just walking around and the courts do nothing.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Street Wise, it goes a little deeper even than that. A man can be sent to jail for not paying a fine and when he comes out that fine is cancelled. It is &#8220;jail in lieu of payment.&#8221;</p><p>However, when a woman with children is in debt, and her child support payments, if paid, would cover that debt, the court doesn&#8217;t take that into consideration and require the dead-beat-dad to pay his arrears so that she can pay her debts. Instead, they send the woman to jail for non-payment (while the DBD walks around free and often making more babies) and she STILL owes that money when she comes out, now with a prison record and even less possibility of finding a job and paying off the debt.</p><p>This situation was highlighted in that movie put out a couple of years back by the Coalition for the Protection of Children &#8211; I think the name was &#8220;Poverty in Paradise&#8221; or something similar. The only comment I heard from PLP supporters at that time related to whether or not the women in the film had weaves and their nails done, as if any woman with any pride would appear in a film without trying to look their best. Not a peep about the inequities and no action to redress the situation.<br
/> Some of these women are owed tens of thousands of dollars, while the fathers are just walking around and the courts do nothing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Highlyfavoured</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322829</link> <dc:creator>Highlyfavoured</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:35:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322829</guid> <description><![CDATA[Has this topic arose because Ms. Swan is herself in debt and has the Credit Association calling at her phone for collection and she refuses to answer?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has this topic arose because Ms. Swan is herself in debt and has the Credit Association calling at her phone for collection and she refuses to answer?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Correct</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322819</link> <dc:creator>Correct</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:21:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322819</guid> <description><![CDATA[how about $800 million dollars disappearing?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about $800 million dollars disappearing?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VJ</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322810</link> <dc:creator>VJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:59:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322810</guid> <description><![CDATA[Hey Joe! Why would &#039;different&#039;people have to post as PLP supporters? You&#039;re obviously not too smart or you would realize PLP supporters are clearly in the majority hence them being in power!!! We&#039;ll see just who &#039;falls&#039; come the 17th!!!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe! Why would &#8216;different&#8217;people have to post as PLP supporters? You&#8217;re obviously not too smart or you would realize PLP supporters are clearly in the majority hence them being in power!!! We&#8217;ll see just who &#8216;falls&#8217; come the 17th!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: UBP/OBA</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322805</link> <dc:creator>UBP/OBA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:48:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322805</guid> <description><![CDATA[As Jim Woolrridge said “those little white boys don’t mind you being in charge as long as they can tell you what to do – “The House That Jack … C.V. (Jim) Woolridge]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jim Woolrridge said “those little white boys don’t mind you being in charge as long as they can tell you what to do – “The House That Jack … C.V. (Jim) Woolridge</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Vote for Me</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322791</link> <dc:creator>Vote for Me</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:37:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322791</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ Sandman
Not sure where you are living but go to debtors court and see how many people make promises that they are unable to keep in an effort to please the judge or in response to the presurres of the debt collectors.The judges do appear to be lenient but at teh end of the day, they do propose jail and many end up in jail as a consequence.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sandman<br
/> Not sure where you are living but go to debtors court and see how many people make promises that they are unable to keep in an effort to please the judge or in response to the presurres of the debt collectors.</p><p>The judges do appear to be lenient but at teh end of the day, they do propose jail and many end up in jail as a consequence.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Vote for Me</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322789</link> <dc:creator>Vote for Me</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:34:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322789</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ its all about the look 2.05pmI did not want to go there today but I was also very surprised about Ms. Swan&#039;s dismissive comments about race.  Race is clearly a remaining issue for Bermuda!!Perhaps Ms. Swan routinely ignores reading!  She clearly did not read this year&#039;s Throne Speech pages 15 and 16  but also missed her own Leader&#039;s response to last year&#039;s Throne Speech where all of Bermuda was surprised at his acknowledgement of the continuing vestiges of institutionalised racism in Bermuda.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ its all about the look 2.05pm</p><p>I did not want to go there today but I was also very surprised about Ms. Swan&#8217;s dismissive comments about race.  Race is clearly a remaining issue for Bermuda!!</p><p>Perhaps Ms. Swan routinely ignores reading!  She clearly did not read this year&#8217;s Throne Speech pages 15 and 16  but also missed her own Leader&#8217;s response to last year&#8217;s Throne Speech where all of Bermuda was surprised at his acknowledgement of the continuing vestiges of institutionalised racism in Bermuda.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Vote for Me</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322781</link> <dc:creator>Vote for Me</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:25:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322781</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ Zombie Apocalypse
The savings rate is approx. 0.5% and the lending rate is at 6.5 to 7.5%, giving a spread of 6% to 7%.  The question is whether or not that is too high.  At the moment it is about the same for all lenders and the open question remains about whether or not a new bank would force rates lower.The earlier comment about government reducing rates relates to debt collection since debts incur interest at the statutory rate of 7%.  If that is reduced than it will be a benefit to delinquent borrowers.Going back to general rates, it is interesting to note that Islamic Finance guidelines are on the basis that rates should not be exhorbitant.  Thus the banks must effectively prove what their costs of operations really are before setting rates.  They are then able to add a small profit but there is less exploitation of borrowers.Perhaps it is something we should at least consider for Bermuda as we seek to grow and diversify our economy.As to housing, prices clearly have to fall further since there are people that want to buy homes and houses are available but not at the &#039;right price&#039;.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Zombie Apocalypse<br
/> The savings rate is approx. 0.5% and the lending rate is at 6.5 to 7.5%, giving a spread of 6% to 7%.  The question is whether or not that is too high.  At the moment it is about the same for all lenders and the open question remains about whether or not a new bank would force rates lower.</p><p>The earlier comment about government reducing rates relates to debt collection since debts incur interest at the statutory rate of 7%.  If that is reduced than it will be a benefit to delinquent borrowers.</p><p>Going back to general rates, it is interesting to note that Islamic Finance guidelines are on the basis that rates should not be exhorbitant.  Thus the banks must effectively prove what their costs of operations really are before setting rates.  They are then able to add a small profit but there is less exploitation of borrowers.</p><p>Perhaps it is something we should at least consider for Bermuda as we seek to grow and diversify our economy.</p><p>As to housing, prices clearly have to fall further since there are people that want to buy homes and houses are available but not at the &#8216;right price&#8217;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: FACTS</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322777</link> <dc:creator>FACTS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:15:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322777</guid> <description><![CDATA[Well said street wise.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said street wise.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Saw part of it</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322770</link> <dc:creator>Saw part of it</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:06:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322770</guid> <description><![CDATA[Can anyone post a link to &#039;Let&#039;s Talk&#039; from last night please?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone post a link to &#8216;Let&#8217;s Talk&#8217; from last night please?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Truthsayer</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322769</link> <dc:creator>The Truthsayer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322769</guid> <description><![CDATA[&quot;Your response last night on the issue of race highlights what is wrong in Bermuda, because whites (and your UBP Handlers) wish to erase Bermuda’s oppressive past, the standard response is that “oh race is irrelevant we have more important things to worry about.&quot;You&#039;re ignorant as hell.  Then tell me what do YOU want?  It&#039;s not a secret who owns Colonial, but I can assure you they are FAR from racist and one of the most honest, genuine families on this island.  She didn&#039;t get the job because she is part of the OBA, she got it because she&#039;s qualified and works hard.  This whole issue of color is f0cking childish.  Who cares if they&#039;re purple as long as they&#039;re doing the right thing.  Fall back you sound like a jealous, envious hater!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your response last night on the issue of race highlights what is wrong in Bermuda, because whites (and your UBP Handlers) wish to erase Bermuda’s oppressive past, the standard response is that “oh race is irrelevant we have more important things to worry about.&#8221;</p><p>You&#8217;re ignorant as hell.  Then tell me what do YOU want?  It&#8217;s not a secret who owns Colonial, but I can assure you they are FAR from racist and one of the most honest, genuine families on this island.  She didn&#8217;t get the job because she is part of the OBA, she got it because she&#8217;s qualified and works hard.  This whole issue of color is f0cking childish.  Who cares if they&#8217;re purple as long as they&#8217;re doing the right thing.  Fall back you sound like a jealous, envious hater!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Zombie Apocalypse</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322752</link> <dc:creator>Zombie Apocalypse</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:28:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322752</guid> <description><![CDATA[Nobody will lend money for less than the market will bear.  No-one, for example, can lend money for less than they can borrow it at.  And anybody who lends money has to (a) make enough to cover nonperforming loans, and in addition (b) make a competitive return on capital.  Otherwise the capital will go elsewhere.  The government can&#039;t &#039;legislate&#039; for a lower interest rate environment.More competition?  Well, there is already competition.  Tere are already 3 or 4 sources of borrowing, and taking that up to 5 or 6 won&#039;t make a difference to interest rates.  We&#039;re a small market of 60,000 people, and we&#039;re reducing in size, and have a shrinking GDP (unlike many other potential markets).    Our housing market sucks, and the government is still (inexplicably) adding to an already over-served market, while recently-built condos along with established ones, stand empty.In short, we ain&#039;t that attractive to lenders.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody will lend money for less than the market will bear.  No-one, for example, can lend money for less than they can borrow it at.  And anybody who lends money has to (a) make enough to cover nonperforming loans, and in addition (b) make a competitive return on capital.  Otherwise the capital will go elsewhere.  The government can&#8217;t &#8216;legislate&#8217; for a lower interest rate environment.</p><p>More competition?  Well, there is already competition.  Tere are already 3 or 4 sources of borrowing, and taking that up to 5 or 6 won&#8217;t make a difference to interest rates.  We&#8217;re a small market of 60,000 people, and we&#8217;re reducing in size, and have a shrinking GDP (unlike many other potential markets).    Our housing market sucks, and the government is still (inexplicably) adding to an already over-served market, while recently-built condos along with established ones, stand empty.</p><p>In short, we ain&#8217;t that attractive to lenders.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sandman</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322747</link> <dc:creator>Sandman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:22:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322747</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m bored of repeating myself on committal of debtors.Debtors cannot be imprisoned if they can prove they can&#039;t pay. Prison is for ones who say they can pay but then don&#039;t - I.e the shirkers and the wheeler-dealers.Furthermore if you can&#039;t afford to pay your debts there is a simple solution: bankruptcy.If truly impoverished people are being imprisoned then the law is being ignored. Look up the Debtors Act]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m bored of repeating myself on committal of debtors.</p><p>Debtors cannot be imprisoned if they can prove they can&#8217;t pay. Prison is for ones who say they can pay but then don&#8217;t &#8211; I.e the shirkers and the wheeler-dealers.</p><p>Furthermore if you can&#8217;t afford to pay your debts there is a simple solution: bankruptcy.</p><p>If truly impoverished people are being imprisoned then the law is being ignored. Look up the Debtors Act</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Zombie Apocalypse</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322745</link> <dc:creator>Zombie Apocalypse</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322745</guid> <description><![CDATA[At its peak, the PLP was spending $100,000,000 a year, every year, on foreign consultants.   And now, 5 years later, you ridicule someone who raises the issue.   It was $100m A YEAR.  For years.   And what was wasted on the Grand Atlantic?And you think I have &#039;trouble answering questions&#039; about what should be cut?  It isn&#039;t even a mildly difficult question.What about the sham contracts for Friends if Ministers?  The $160,000 for the sham report by Pastor Bean?   The report he wrote to provide advice to himself.  The secret report, that we have never seen.There are all sorts of wastes of money that could have been saved.  You don&#039;t even want to admit they happened, they&#039;re so criminally ridiculous.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At its peak, the PLP was spending $100,000,000 a year, every year, on foreign consultants.   And now, 5 years later, you ridicule someone who raises the issue.   It was $100m A YEAR.  For years.   And what was wasted on the Grand Atlantic?</p><p>And you think I have &#8216;trouble answering questions&#8217; about what should be cut?  It isn&#8217;t even a mildly difficult question.</p><p>What about the sham contracts for Friends if Ministers?  The $160,000 for the sham report by Pastor Bean?   The report he wrote to provide advice to himself.  The secret report, that we have never seen.</p><p>There are all sorts of wastes of money that could have been saved.  You don&#8217;t even want to admit they happened, they&#8217;re so criminally ridiculous.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JOE</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322737</link> <dc:creator>JOE</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322737</guid> <description><![CDATA[YOU TALK ABOUT &quot;AUSTERITY&quot; AS IF IT IS SOME BIG BAD THING! UNDER THE PLP&#039;S WATCH AUSTERITY MEASURES ARE ALREADY IN PLACE...! BUT SSSHH DON&#039;T TELL THE VOTING PUBLIC THAT. LINK AUSTERITY TO THE OBA AND CLAIM IT IS BAD. THEY WILL FALL FOR IT; OR AT LEAST DRINK THE KOOL-AID! HOW MANY ORGANISATIONS HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY PLP-LED AUSTERITY MEASURES?? POLICE, TEACHERS, VARIOUS SHELTERS, ETC. ETC. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD THING? WHY WOULD THE PLP IMPLEMENT BAD POLICIES?!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU TALK ABOUT &#8220;AUSTERITY&#8221; AS IF IT IS SOME BIG BAD THING! UNDER THE PLP&#8217;S WATCH AUSTERITY MEASURES ARE ALREADY IN PLACE&#8230;! BUT SSSHH DON&#8217;T TELL THE VOTING PUBLIC THAT. LINK AUSTERITY TO THE OBA AND CLAIM IT IS BAD. THEY WILL FALL FOR IT; OR AT LEAST DRINK THE KOOL-AID! HOW MANY ORGANISATIONS HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY PLP-LED AUSTERITY MEASURES?? POLICE, TEACHERS, VARIOUS SHELTERS, ETC. ETC. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD THING? WHY WOULD THE PLP IMPLEMENT BAD POLICIES?!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: its all about the LOOK and that there see</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322731</link> <dc:creator>its all about the LOOK and that there see</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:05:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322731</guid> <description><![CDATA[Dear Ms Alexis SwanYour response last night on the issue of race highlights what is wrong in Bermuda, because whites (and your UBP Handlers) wish to erase Bermuda&#039;s oppressive past, the standard response is that &quot;oh race is irrelevant we have more important things to worry about&quot;.Well Alexis, let me tell you a little story 2012 about people (yes who look like you) who are routinely rejected from job applications because they are Bermudian and Black.Race is still a major issue excluding many qualified Bermudians and their non-bermudian spouses from employment opportunities in our beautiful island home, so in short Alexis its an open secret who owns Colonial Insurance where you were and its also an open secret that your Human Resource Department would have already put any PLP aspiring MP on a written warning for the amount of time that you Nandi and others have swanned out of work for those mickey mouse press conferences.Open your UK University educated eyes and stop trying so hard to be one of the few blacks in the room who have been given an opportunity, as there are dozens of people with more relevant insurance industry experience than you who are unemployed right now whilst you are allowed to spend your days canvassing and pretending to be a leader.Furthermore as a young person it is offensive when you and some of the otehrs from First Bermuda Alliance  Youth wing claim to &quot;represent&quot; your generation.....should I go there about the make up of those meetings and who is politely told to zip it, yes people who look like youSo please open your eyes since your political career is now over and step aside for Nandi Davis so she can read her lines at the next press conference.............I had to laugh at Nandi&#039;s recent ad on the TV, she had a 3 year old young boy in her lap saying that he is inheriting $34,000+ in debt, yet the young boy had on a platinum bling chain and a diamond earing..........maybe someone should take those items to cash for gold to reduce the national debt, or pay some child supportYou are NOT representative of a generation of Bermudians, stop fooling yourself Lady.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ms Alexis Swan</p><p>Your response last night on the issue of race highlights what is wrong in Bermuda, because whites (and your UBP Handlers) wish to erase Bermuda&#8217;s oppressive past, the standard response is that &#8220;oh race is irrelevant we have more important things to worry about&#8221;.</p><p>Well Alexis, let me tell you a little story 2012 about people (yes who look like you) who are routinely rejected from job applications because they are Bermudian and Black.</p><p>Race is still a major issue excluding many qualified Bermudians and their non-bermudian spouses from employment opportunities in our beautiful island home, so in short Alexis its an open secret who owns Colonial Insurance where you were and its also an open secret that your Human Resource Department would have already put any PLP aspiring MP on a written warning for the amount of time that you Nandi and others have swanned out of work for those mickey mouse press conferences.</p><p>Open your UK University educated eyes and stop trying so hard to be one of the few blacks in the room who have been given an opportunity, as there are dozens of people with more relevant insurance industry experience than you who are unemployed right now whilst you are allowed to spend your days canvassing and pretending to be a leader.</p><p>Furthermore as a young person it is offensive when you and some of the otehrs from First Bermuda Alliance  Youth wing claim to &#8220;represent&#8221; your generation&#8230;..should I go there about the make up of those meetings and who is politely told to zip it, yes people who look like you</p><p>So please open your eyes since your political career is now over and step aside for Nandi Davis so she can read her lines at the next press conference&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I had to laugh at Nandi&#8217;s recent ad on the TV, she had a 3 year old young boy in her lap saying that he is inheriting $34,000+ in debt, yet the young boy had on a platinum bling chain and a diamond earing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.maybe someone should take those items to cash for gold to reduce the national debt, or pay some child support</p><p>You are NOT representative of a generation of Bermudians, stop fooling yourself Lady.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Vote for Me</title><link>http://bernews.com/2012/11/alexis-swan-is-it-cost-effective-to-jail-debtors/#comment-322727</link> <dc:creator>Vote for Me</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:02:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bernews.com/?p=148287#comment-322727</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ zombie apocalypse
Government does not have any authority to reduce general rates but they can reduce the statutory rates under the Interest and Credit Act 1975, which will impact debt collection.The answer for general rates is to introduce more competition.  We will see if the relaxation of the 60/40 rule will get us a new bank that is more market driven.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ zombie apocalypse<br
/> Government does not have any authority to reduce general rates but they can reduce the statutory rates under the Interest and Credit Act 1975, which will impact debt collection.</p><p>The answer for general rates is to introduce more competition.  We will see if the relaxation of the 60/40 rule will get us a new bank that is more market driven.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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