Rev. Tweed Responds To Canon Francis’ Letter
[Written by Rev. Nicholas Tweed in response to the letter to the editor by Canon James W. Francis]
The time has truly come for people of goodwill to let their voices be heard. There is a saying, “call a spade a spade!”
It is very interesting yet hardly surprising that individuals who have played no role in the quest to create a fair and just Bermuda, suddenly emerge from the shadows of the citadel that has undergirded white supremacy with spiritual and moral legitimacy- for the past 1417 years, if one accepts its purported origin to date back to the mission to England by Saint Augustine of Canterbury in AD 597, or if you prefer at least the past 480 years, from its independence from the Catholic Church- as proclaimers of reason and goodwill.
Yet, despite the self proclaimed good intentions, and cries of great sadness over recent events, the letter writer proceeds to regurgitate a narrative derived from the media without checking it against the facts in the name of reason and level headedness. These “code words,” can be recognized for what they are, feeble attempts to tell people to settle down, get back in your place. This is a recognizable pathology and the people know it well.
Guided by outrageous fabrications such as “the cries against PRC’s,” “the demand for reparation on Tucker’s Town land,” “to say nothing of the ultimatum being served on the elected government.” The issue with PRC’s was not, and I reiterate NOT anti PRC, it was objecting to the underhanded and deceptive manner in which the government set about using what Chief Justice Kawaley called a “sleeping provision,” to subvert the Immigration and Protection Act of 1956 and the subsequent 1994 and 2001 Amendments to the Act for a purpose that was NEVER intended.
I am sure my moral and learned friend understands this, and should therefore understand the difference between on the one hand, opposing an unjust action on the part of government, and on the other hand, agreeing that PRC holders should have the opportunity to apply for status if they desire to pursue it, but that the government should provide a clearly defined process to that end. In response to appeals to the government that were repeatedly dismissed or ignored, the people chose to exercise their democratic right in a peaceful, orderly and lawful way, and presented the government with a letter which demanded a response. No ultimatum was issued this is a fabrication.
On Tucker’s Point, the same democratically elected house, whose virtue has been extolled by the letter writer, passed a bill not requesting reparations- another fabrication- but a bill to form a commission of Inquiry into alleged claims of historic losses of citizens’ property through theft, dispossession, or adverse possession claims. In response to the governor’s decision not to grant the request from the people’s house, the people exercised their democratic right to voice their displeasure. Again in a peaceful, orderly, and law abiding manner.
In addition to the aforementioned fabrications, it is really outrageous for anyone in this day and age to display such not selective amnesia but defective memory as to compare Africans who were brought here in chains having been dehumanized and emasculated to Portuguese people who came as migrants, and regardless of what they faced once here were endowed with the benefits and privileges of the dominant white society. This is unlike the experience of African descendants who later migrated into a racist system that did not respect their humanity and viewed them as inferior to their white counterparts. A system no less, supported and maintained by the very same Anglican Church to which the letter writer belongs.
In respect to the struggle for human rights in Bermuda, the good “letter writer,” should check the record. The struggle for human rights in Bermuda was always initiated without the permission of the white oligarchy, whether from Monk to Mazumbo, from Tobitt to Tweed, or from the dockworkers strike in 1959 to the General Strike of 1981, and the Anglican church was always on the side of maintaining the system of white supremacy, and never on the side of black people or the side of justice- the more things change the more things stay the same. To proffer a narrative contrary to this depicts a level of dishonesty of the highest order.
It is also intriguing to hear the appeal to the numbers game to undermine the validity of the genuine concerns of the people of Bermuda. We cannot accept two, three, or even four thousand people, should speak and act in such negative ways and as such determine the fate of more than 60 thousand residents. Where was this voice when the “forty thieves,” were determining the fate of black Bermudians who could not even sit in the so-called church that the letter writer so proudly represents. And where was the Anglican Church during theboycott – it was where it always is – on the side of the racist oligarchy, or where was the good letter writer for that matter.
I do not know what Theatre Boycott “erased the vestiges of official segregation in Bermuda,” but I have it on sound authority that that conclusion is a figment of the letter writer’s imagination. Bermudians have been and continue to fight against the vestiges of white supremacy and segregation to this day.
In reference to “the most productive march in living memory,” it would appear that the passage of time has somewhat distorted the reality. The March on Washington was not the trivial or pejorative “I Have a Dream march,” it was a march for Jobs and Freedom. It was a march calling for economic and racial justice. The leadership converged on Washington against the will of President John F. Kennedy and the government at the time. And lest we be dictated to by a minority, the US population in 1963 was 186, 241, 798 while the most generous estimates for the attendees at the March on Washington is between 200-300,000 people. So, how could such a small number determine the fate for such a large number because justice demanded it, it did then and it does now!
One cannot help wonder that if the good letter writer is so acutely aware that the Island is “encumbered with more problems than it has ever had,” why the voice and or presence of the letter writer in responding to this crisis is so conspicuously absent. Perhaps, this is explained by the letter writers view that responsibility begins and ends at the ballot box.
I do not know what kind of democracy the letter writer is familiar with, but democracy includes a social contract between the people and the government. The people elect a government who commit to serve the people, once elected they serve all the people not just the people who elected them. Civic responsibility goes beyond simply casting a vote and becoming a spectator until the next election. It requires that the people then take responsibility to hold the government accountable for what they do in the name of the people and for the good of the country.
It is not by accident that whenever the people appear to be waking up and taking their destiny into their own hands, whenever the people are aroused to hold people accountable to live up to the promises they have made, whenever the people are “sick and tired of being sick and tired,” that representatives of the old Oligarchy, those who have been trained and conditioned to seduce the people to “stay in their place,” those who have been silent when it comes to the pain of the people, those who have been silent when promises are broken, those who have been silent when the blood of our sons and daughters runs in the street, those who have been silent in the face of growing unemployment, those who have been silent when the rights that our forebears have fought for are being trampled on, are rolled out.
They come using the language of “reason,” as if the people are incapable of utilizing reason, they come in the name of “goodwill,” as if the people have no goodwill, yet they never come decrying the conditions that give rise to the people finally rising up to say to those who are entrusted to serve them, you cannot serve us without listening to us, and yes, enough is enough!
So, let’s just “call a spade a spade!”
- Rev. Nicholas Genevieve-Tweed
What a human being you are Tweed. It’s all about you isn’t it. Look at me…come on, what are they paying you. Stirring the pot with divisive rhetoric. Your church should be ashamed of you.
Your creation of hate and divisiveness in our small community is the devil at work.
You must really not like what he said. For – by estimation – it is factual and yes the truth hurts!
You don’t correct history by ignoring it.
“It is very interesting yet hardly surprising that individuals who have played no role in the quest to create a fair and just Bermuda, suddenly emerge from the shadows…”
Now who does this describe?
Regardless, I take no issue with R. Tweed and his efforts or with the marches etc. that have taken place. Ultimately, governemnts will govern and the majority will decide who is responsible for governing.
where did Tweed all of a sudden emerge from………………never heard of him before
Is Rev Tweed Bermudian?
I believe he was born here but lived in the UK and USA.
Aren’t Revs supposed to promote love and togetherness? Aren’t they supposed to promote forgiveness?
Who cares whether or not you take issue with what Rev Tweed has put forward Jt. He is perfectly right with his evaluation of our divided society. Any time a black man speakers up against injustice in this country he is hauled over the coals. Anyone who can’t see that injustice is prevalent in this country is not being honest. Like Rev. Tweed said, enough is enough.
It is very interesting that a people just here no more than twenty-five years, and have contributed zilch to the foundation of this country, can actually believe they have a right to be who the people of this island have been since birth; just because they emerged from the shadow of dust from an airplane…It amazes me that those people have not come forward to say who they are,.. who are these PRCs? come forward and state who you are and why should you be granted an opportunity to be called a citizen of an island whose people are yet to know their true history and identity and who continue to live daily in the shadow of their slave masters children and their friends.. Why would you want to be identified with a group of people apparently confused and misdirected about who they are via a constitutional order that changes at whim, seems anything is possible in Bermuda, one can just become that ambiguious “name” because they were allowed to participate in a capitalist society that chose to import workers rather than take care of the population so-called “Bermudians” who were given a name by stealth, and are controlled through the wealth of those who continue to exploit the ignorance of the aforementioned… We should demand to know the truth about our existence rather than ask for equality.Who is actually fighting to become an “overseas territory citizen” in 2014…something up with that..Canon Francis letter is a reflection of that confusion of a group of people who acquiese rather than act…@wondering.. do your homework and find out more about the TWEEDs of Bermuda, um sure there is a whole lot you don’t know about. All of us!! Public Access to information will undoubtedly unlock a lot of previously kept secrets..shhh
No, if you want factually correct then you need to read the Comeau piece on Bernews, not this Tweed rhetoric.
This Tweed appears to be hate fueling, using God as a cover.
He is using god as a cover? I didn’t see any references to god in his letter. Are you saying that because he is a Reverend?
Being an atheist myself, I have a very high respect for Reverend Tweed and his approach on this important issue. This is secular issue not a religious one.
Stop trying to turn this into something that it clearly is not!
Because of his position in the church, people believe what he says is gospel truth.
so yes, he is using God as a cover either intentionally or accidentally as his position gives a substance to what he says Whether he is right or incredibly wrong)
If he wants to do politics, then he needs to leave the church now and stand on his own two feet, not God’s
How ridiculous!
Only someone that cant think for themselves would make a comment like that. Do you believe that the majority of religious folks are incapable of coming their own conclusions on issues without appealing to a “divine” authority? Yes, no doubt there are some but the majority of them are quite capable making sound judgement on their own.
Since when did it become a requirement for someone to renounce their church affiliations to enter into the political sphere?
Get real!
LOL!
When they are a religious leader
It is obvious that you know nothing of the church Rev. Tweed serves. I would suggest you read up on the African Methodist Episcopal Church and it’s outstanding contributions to Social Justice around the world.
I for one am very, very proud of the work he is doing as a Bermudian who for the last 40 years has worked in the area of ministry, I can assure you that he represents well the ministry of the AME church.
I have served for over 25 years as the Director of Social Action in the 2nd Episcopal District of the AME church. During my time of service I have walked in Rev. Tweeds shoes in many areas I have served from Maryland, The District of Columbia, Virginia and North Carolina. It is so gratifying to know that MY pastor Rev. Tweed is taking the stand he is taking.
I know my uncle the late Fredrick L. Wade would be as proud of him and the work he is doing.
So you are proud of him attacking the Anglican church. that’s the AME way????
WOW!!!!!!
The above statement by the Hon. Rev.Dr.Wendell O.E.Christopher,Sr seems to be focusing on SELF. “I do this and I do that” If YOU are concerned about YOUR country why don’t you return and contribute…Also, your late uncle Frederick L.Wade,( may his soul rest in peace)would NOT be proud of his beloved PLP performance the 14 years they were in power !!
Me myself and I from the AME leaders is disgusting. The praise should be to God , NOT FALSE IDOLS!!!!!!!!!
This sheds a new light on it. Frankly, I’m shocked.
yawn… In a public forum your lowly pride means little in the context of a decent argument of a point. The name dropping and resume presenting nullifies your point. But hey, thats onle MY opionion. I would hear better if the thounderous sound of smugness and perception of well connect, were not muting the point you were trying to make. You were trying to make a point were’nt you?
The earlier statement is directed at Dr.Wendell Christopher..and I totally agree with wrong
ever considered maybe “God” is using Reverend Tweed?….Just to prove His diversity? hmmm did you ever think of that!!after all What exactly is the true representation pof “GOD”? The book”BIBLE” describes “GOD” as many things including a GOD of War, a “GOD” of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, A GOD of Sun and shield,.. ect
Where is the hate fuelling in his article?
You wont see it! Kinda like you pretended not to see the white mental illness sign that woman carried at the last march.
@Really LOL! “those who have been silent when the blood of our sons and daughters runs in the street” – not factual!
How is that quote not factual? Lets put that quote in its entire context.
that representatives of the old Oligarchy, those who have been trained and conditioned to seduce the people to “stay in their place,” those who have been silent when it comes to the pain of the people, those who have been silent when promises are broken, “those who have been silent when the blood of our sons and daughters runs in the street,” those who have been silent in the face of growing unemployment, those who have been silent when the rights that our forebears have fought for are being trampled on, are rolled out.
That quote within it’s full context is 100% true. 100% factual. For it not to be true or factual would mean that every single representative of the old Oligarchy spoke out against injustices towards those who they did not represent. We know or even common sense would known that is simply not true.
You forgot the bleeding in the streets bit. I don’t recall any massacres.
I might be missing something but I believe I did not forget bleeding in the streets. HIs comment which I have include in “” above is “those who have been silent when the blood of our sons and daughters runs in the street,” which clearly says blood…runs in the street.
You don’t have to have massacres to have bleeding in the streets. Come on!!
The amount of blood that has been shed in our streets through riots and people fighting for their freedom and for justice is fact. These things happened. So if you want to live in reality, historically, blood has been shed in our streets. You can’t erase, deny, or simply ignore this truth.
I wish people can be honest and open their comment with their position. Such as, I don’t like this man because he is…..black, a Pastor, associated with blacks, the PLP, or the People’s Campaign etc etc. Then we can understanding some of the comments that are grasping at straws and not dealing with the facts of the article.
How many deaths in the streets fighting for freedom and in what years?
“You don’t correct history by ignoring it.”
You can’t correct history !!! You can learn from it and hope to prevent repeats of it.
Plenty of hate-mongers in history.
“the Anglican church was always on the side of maintaining the system of white supremacy, and never on the side of black people or the side of justice- the more things change the more things stay the same”
Sounds like Tweed is already power drunk ! Where in any religious text does it say this.
I dont think Tweed’s using biblical or religous text to back up his statements, rather referencing things like church-backed colonialism and missionary ‘conversion’ of places in Africa and the Americas.
But that becomes a deeper discussion and probably off-topic in relation to the article overall.
He is talking in context of today and in Bermuda….READ IT AGAIN.please.
Stop trying to rescue your nasty man
This character “Rev.Tweed” is a sorry so and so…I can only imagine he’d been a nobody where he was prior to coming to Bermuda to aggravate the majority with his ludicrous innuendoes.
There are a few others “that fit into them shoes” and Bermudians need to recognize them for what they really are…People like “Sharpton” who relishes on hyping up the masses and distracting them from “truths and lies”
Varied is addressing your question “Where in any religious text does it say this”, not trying to rescue Rev Tweed.
Tweed,(yes, you don’t deserved to be called Reverend)I personally know your family and can honestly say your uncle and cousins are a far cry from what you “represent”. As a matter of fact they are more Godly than your are
You bie’ are like that Sharples character another individual that just loves recognition and running his mouth about “the white man”. The easiest way to make someone feel necessary is by saying things they claim to be true without proof. You too Tweed are an agitator plain and simple. And to say, you are a man of God…what nerve! Oh by the way, I would imagine you are also banking in U.S.A. dollars. The old saying is, “your own fleas bite the hardest”.
Typo: Al Sharpton…
OBA/UBP PAID BLOGGERS at work!!!
Wow. Hit a nerve did it?
The Christian church has a role to play in social justice and should never abandon its role (as it looks like it has in the past). Looks like it is time for all church leaders to dialogue and then communicate with the government.
Perhaps the good rev. Tweed (and i use that term loosely) should stick to reading fairy tales since he’s so good at repeating them. For a more factual presentation, Mr. Comeau’s commentary is well worth reading.
Read it. I never did like Comeau’s commentaries. His comments smack of racism and he is so obviously pro-OBA that he can never be objective.
It was factual.
Wow!!
Is this letter really from a ‘man of the Church?’
I thought Jesus preached love and acceptance for all! Instead all I read was an attempt to divide and stir up hate once again against people that don’t hold the same position or others that don’t look like you. Maybe he needs to re-read the New Testament to remind himself of Jesus’ teachings.
The most ironic thing is, is that Rev. Tweed is a work permit holder who hasn’t even been in BDA for 2 years! Much like the American talk show host who practices the same divisive rhetoric, ironically against ‘foreigners.’
Either way as a religious person myself, I forgive you for your hate and wish you all the best Reverend.
God bless sir.
So you want to use the fact that he is a Christian to suppress his right to speak out?
Reverend Tweed is a Bermudian and has every right to speak up and have a say in his own country.
Stop using religion to justify your bigotry! This is not a religious issue!
He is not a Bermudian – He is on a work permit
Infidel Guy. Take your last sentance and send it to Tweed. Thats exactly what he did but you are obviously too blind to see.
Tweed made it a religious issue.
All religions seem to preach hate for every other religion. Thats why the worlds problems will never ever be solved via religion.
It just: My imaginary friend is better than yours. Believing in Santa Clause is no less idiotic.
Nowhere did I seek to suppress his freedom of speech.
I just noted that as a man of God he is supposed to set an example of love, forgiveness and unity throughout the community. Just like the good book instructs all followers to abide. Instead he is preaching divisiveness and hate. And against a fellow Church elder at that!
Also, I do not know one Bermudian who is on a work permit like Rev. Tweed. But that doesn’t matter to me at all. I just find it highly ironic and downright hypocritical that two foreigners are whipping up some locals into a xenophobic furor.
Thanks for replying.
Your knowledge of the bible seems to be at about the same level that a monkey has of quantum physics. Primitive!
For your enlightenment, Reverend Tweed was born in the UK. His father, Dr. Kingsley Tweed is a Bermudian who played a leading role during the fight against segregation in Bermuda during the 1950′s.
I really need to learn to stop wasting my time with your kind.
I don’t have a problem with his religious aspect, even though I can’t for a moment fathom it. And I won’t dispute Rev Tweed’s right to speak as a Bermudian.
But please let us not forget that Rev Tweed was not born here and has spent very little of his life on island. Most of the very people he speaks against have far more personal investment in the island.
Heck, I know people on work permits who have more invested in Bermuda than Rev Tweed.
@Bermale–Matthew 10:34-36—-”Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace , but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and daughter against her mother, and daughter-in -law against her mother-in-law.And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
Stretch the truth, and bring up slavery for good measure – the sure way to get your point across right Mr Tweed? I mean who cares about accuracy, truth and stuff like that. Nah, just bring up passed injustices and you can get any BS across.
Stick to the fairy tales you tell in church.
It was interesting to listen to the radio show host interview Rev Tweed yesterday. He was at odds with the host who keeps repeating the PLP line that fixing the loophole in Parliament as a way to put the brakes on the issue. Rev Tweed was saying after a lot of research, that the PRC issue was complexed and passing the amendment was not the answer.
I think Rev Tweed is trying at this point to live up to his father’s legacy of fighting for a worthy social cause. Big shoes to follow and he is trying very hard.
The pen is powerful – it cuts like a two-edged sword. The Lord will provide.
What a hate filled, man. Man of the church? pathetic.
Rev. Tweed, you have absolutely no credibility whatsoever as a preacher, you are nothing more than a race baiter, happy to stir up emotions by picking away at a long festering sore. As long as we have people like you who are all too willing to keep race and slavery on the front burner Bermuda will always be racially divided.
Which part of what Rev. Tweed said is untrue? Or is your discomfort because he has the courage to say it?
White Supremacists…NAME THEM COME ON.
They cant. But then again we are all painted with that brush regardless
He can’t because they don’t exist.
There may some racist folks still around, but White supremacists, give me a break.
If Rev. Tweed’s opening paragraphs are in reference to Canon Francis, it is unfair and incorrect to say he has “played no role in the quest to create a fair and just Bermuda.” Canon Francis has fought for equal rights and justice for decades, not the least when he chaired the Human Rights Commission for 12 years.
I thought the Good Reverend is a white man with the preacher dialect….bad enough to go keep going back in time but 1417 years?
Well I don’t know whether he is totally accurate but based on my own personal experiences dealing with overt and covert racism directed at me or directed at others in my awareness through all my years in Bermuda, from my own personal experiences I would Rev. Tweed is right on the money.
It really worries me that this man is a man of God. It really does. Instead of spewing hate towards him, I will just pray for him. Men of God teach that ALL PEOPLE are God’s children White, Black, and Other and a “Man” of God accepts them all and traets “ALL” people the same way. If you are not for “ALL” the citizens of Bermuda then you my friend are NOT a man of God!
Rev. Tweed hit the nail right on the head. Folks hate to hear the truth because sometimes the truth hurts.Because he is a man of God doesn’t mean that he cannot speak against injustice. Bermuda is split down the middle with black folks on one side and whites on the other. The only people who make some sort of compromise are black folks. The days of black people sitting peacefully on the side line are over. It is time to speak up and demonstrate our displeasure for injustice.
” The only people who make some sort of compromise are black folks”
you can believe your own lies, but don’t expect others to. You’re obviously a bigot of the worst kind.
Liars like you disgust me, you do nothing but further the racial divide.
Truth Hurts!!
So you do admit there is a racial divide. While calling the commenter a bigot no less.
This piece of writing is done to divide.Stirring up emotions. He is not a Bermudian! He is an Englishman!
I hazard to say and this is only my opinion but I suspect that the only people who would have a problem with Rev. Tweeds comments are white.
The truth and nothing but the truth………what race….what political party….. continues to cause the racial rift in Bermuda? Give me an instance in the last twenty years where a white person/organization/white supremastgroup racially abused a black person. White people get this racial/slavery history thrown at them every day and we are the ones who are supposedly not doing enough to bring the people together..give me a break. What is the motive for this? Political votes. Keep stirring the racial pot and sure enough those who do not want to move forward with their lives and who will vote on the colour of their skin and their history will vote PLP.
It is obvious that white folk vote based on race, more so than black folk. I don’t know where you are getting your information nothing but the truth.
Yeah, lets all gather around the camp fire, hold hands, sing the proverbial Kumbaya song and pretend that everybody is just one great big happy family. This is one of the reasons that we still find ourselves not too much further along in regards to the race issue than we were some 60+ years ago.
SMH
As long as folks identify a difference, the difference will exist. When you begin to identify people as the person they are, then racism will leave your heart.
I’m curious, what is your solution?
@Mike—Romans 9:13–As it is written, Jacob have I loved , but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. The whole chapter is worth reading for better understanding of people like Rev. Tweed et al.
First off, I am sick to death of the term ‘the people’. We all know what it means and it does not relate to the entirety of Bermudians, so please, stop speaking like it does. As a born and bred Bermudian of mixed descent I don’t appreciate the segregation… and yes, it is segregation, deliberate or not.
Second, let’s be up front about this statement: “Bermudians have been and continue to fight against the vestiges of white supremacy and segregation to this day.” While there does remain some small vestiges of our unpleasant past, please be aware that the majority of it is purely in the minds of a good portion of those fighting against it. The rest of us are happily living in the reality where we can do whatever we want to do so long as we’re willing to work for it. Every day I see, hear and read about the success of Bermudians, young and old, who are succeeding because they don’t see obstacles, they see challenges that can be overcome.
Third, Rev Tweed, how about you stop being a spokeperson until such time as you have personal experience about which you speak. It’s my understanding that you’ve only been residing in Bermuda for a very short time and are simply taking the word of a very small group of Bermudians about how things are on this beautiful island of ours. I suggest you walk for a few years in our shoes before you start to tell us what is what.
Fourth, and final, you present yourself as a man of god, and you may believe yourself to be so, but I respectfully suggest that you open your eyes to the reality of the path you walk.
“Bermudians have been and continue to fight against the vestiges of white supremacy and segregation to this day.”
Implying that only true Bermudians are black.
Um. No.
Are you suggesting that white people cannot fight against “white supremacy”?
This doesn’t “imply” anything of the sort so stop trying to attribute a meaning to the statement that simply does not exist.
Um…is that how the educated start sentences?
The rest of his diatribe is only meant to divide even further…you support this garbage?
People fought as people against Hilter.
where nare those white people fighting against white supremacy!!!!!!!I want to meet them!!!!!!!!!
To be fair, I think all of us are fighting against the vestiges of white supremacy and segregation.
We’re trying to get better schools, social services, job training, job opportunities, etc. This is more important than ever now after the PLP went on a destructathon of our education system and public finances.
IT WAS THE THEN UBP NOW OBA THAT MESSED UP THE EDUCATION SYSTEM.ARE YOU TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER THAT OR ARE YOU A AID BLOGGER
PAID
14 years to change what was percieved as wrong.
Instead the PLP built another mega school in the same model
After meeting Reverend Tweed I thought he was a white man using a preachers speech pattern….not that it matters that was before the Peoples Campaign started
Wow. Tweed managed to slam the Anglican church before deftly jumping into a ton of paragraphs to defend his stance.
Wonder how he feels about casino gambling?
Methinks thou dost preacheth too much. What does this Tweed man know about this island anyways? Be gone divider of races. I can only imagine the waste that he spews during his sermons #hatespeech
Sorry Rev. Tweed but the MLK march for basic civil rights can in no way be compared to the anti-PRC march a few weeks ago where the supporters marched to deny basic human rights to others who have been here for at least a quarter of a century and who have Bermudian born children (i.e. what you are not) and have contributed to society for all those years.
Apples and oranges I’m afraid.
And to use past wrongs to justify present wrongs is well…just wrong.
‘And to use past wrongs to justify present wrongs is well…just wrong.’
Thank you. That is about all I got from his letter myself. If it was wrong then, it is wrong now.
Yes his march to deny legally given rights was wrong.
Hey reverend, it’s 2014!
Yup, after 14 years of a “Black” government! What are you really saying? Nothing but “I want power”? Obviously, a PLP proxy!
Go crawl back under a rock or go back to wherever you came from!
Smiths (and Black)
BTW, NO true Christian (let alone Minister) I know spews hatred!
I would like R. Tweed to respond to Comeau’s piece, please.
this man Tweed is a wannabe Al Sharpton.
lol….. you have the whites and the wish they was whites in an uproar.
this is some good stuff
You’re nothing but a bigot. You’re no better than the ‘evil whites’ you rally against, you’re much worse.
That was just plain nasty to say
As a black Bermudian/OBA voter/property owner/white collar job holder/etc. who takes exception to some of what said in this article, I’m deeply offended by your ignorant comment.
Just because I can speak/write in English and would have said “wish-they-were-whites” instead of “wish they was whites” doesn’t make me some kind of wannabe.
Nevertheless, those blacks who want to score brownie points with the white community will be the first to blast Rev. Tweed’s comments. Kind of reminds me of the stories I read about the reaction of some of the black community in Martin Luther King’s and Malcolm X’s days. You know the ones – those with a moderate amount of wealth, those who benefitted from sidling up to their white brethen, getting the crumbs from their table. They were the most vocal in opposition and what King and X were trying to achieve.
You’re comparing Tweed to MLK? You obviously have no respect for MLK.
What ever became of “Church and Politics…never the two shall meet”? What are the AME Bishops saying about all of this? Amazing that we are condoning this.
He is looking for a future in politics as the church aint paying the bills as of late!
Just look at how thou dresses while your congregation wears clothes far beneath thy standard! Opium of the masses is religion – its like politics in that way…
This guy showed up in Bermuda shortly after the last election. He’s Dr you know who’s pointman on the ground. He gets the orders and then oversees, Bean, Furbert, etc. It’s that simple.
Practice what thou preeches – you state: “It requires that the people then take responsibility to hold the government accountable for what they do in the name of the people and for the good of the country.”
well then what happened and where were you oh mighty word twister when the PLP raped our futures! Oh thats right, you were in church praying for more $ from your followers!
Keep on keepin on man! You aint fooling anyone with your holier that holy words and recitals of Jesus! Jesus would turn his ear to your words and forgive you for your ignorance!
Pastor Tweed, prefacing your remarks with an attack on the letter writer, his church and his motives was bad. You lost me after that attack and I leave you with a biblical thought, “be angry and sin not.”
“The time has truly come for people of goodwill to let their voices be heard.”
So only people that agree with Rev. Tweed and Co’s point of view are considered to be ‘people of goodwill?’ I guess others that don’t see it his way are ‘people of bad will?’
@ lev.outerbridge–what sin did Rev. Tweed commit in his alledged anger? just askin?
@MJ – if one confines sin to the transgression of GOD’s divine law, then one could conclude that Rev. Tweed did not sin. However, if one confines righteousness to loving God with all thy heart, soul and mind and loving your neighbor as yourself, then one might conclude that Rev. Tweed did am unrighteous thing. In my opinion, his words directed at Canon Francis was judgmental, Pharisaic and insulting. I don’t think he did the neighborly thing by attacking Canon Francis in this way. I believe Rev. Tweed is an intelligent, caring, loving and sincere pastor and he could have chosen to attack the issue and not the individual.
Sin is confined to what God says it is not an opinion…So in your first sentence you corrected the previous allegation of so called “sin” committed by the rev.Tweed, in his rebuttal to canon Francis
@MJ – OK noted – thanks for the opportunity to chat.
I think my kids whom used to go to your church will not anymore, when their aunty calls for them to go with her. I don’t want this type of hate dirrected to them and it is apparent that we differ on the teachings of Christ.
LOL
This is just so very sad. We should be drawing people to church NOT turning them away
DIVIDING the CHURCH and DIVIDING the ISLAND is just plain WRONG
A so called man of the cloth, more like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Ulterior motive?? I think so.
Couldn’t be bothered to read the above article, because I knew it was just more plp sponsored race politics. And, quite frankly, I am sick and tired of it!
Only fools trip over things behind them.
This letter is disturbing in a few ways. There is most certainly still remenants of racism in. Bermuda however for Rev. Tweed to use such racially charged words such as white supremacy in the Bermuda context is offensive. It is clear that he is bringing his southern US racial experiences and rhetoric to Bermuda when the 2 situations are entirely different. Additionally, I find that as one religious leader attacking another (well respected Bermudian) is such a way is entirely unacceptable. He could have taken issue with Canon Francis’ comments in a much more effective but diplomatic manner but he chose not to. Like someone else above, I stopped reading after the first paragraph…
White supremacy is offensive in any context but it is no surprise that you are uncomfortable with this kind of discussion. This is in part why the race issues remain not properly dealt with in this country. Too many people would rather not deal with things that make them uncomfortable.
I can appreciate your equally biased opinion Mr Viera. The use of “well respected” suggest that you have polled folk from all segments of the country. Im sure you havent, therefore one man’s respect is anothers disdain.
Further, having lived and been educated in the deep south, I feel that I am a tad more qualified to speak on this matter than you. Let me simply say, Bermuda and the new south have many, many similarities, to include subtle, albeit extreme racism.
Waiting for the PLP talking heads to denounce these remarks as anti-Bermudian and call for the immediate revocation of his work permit.
If a chef gets kicked off the island for cracking a joke in a private setting it seems only reasonable for a reverend to be ejected for insulting the majority of us with unsubstantiated observations and in certain cases outright lies … all in the public domain.
If the PLP and BIU fail to call for his removal it will only serve to confirm they put politics ahead of Bermudians and are nothing more than a hypocritical cadre of power seekers.
32n64w-
Maybe they’re still trying to figure out how to respond to the Nana Peggy mental illness sign. The PLP still haven’t denounced that one, either.
EW
How can anyone denounce something that they like ? How can anyone denounce something that is at the core of their political strategy ?
Rev. Tweed is a bermudian you twit !!
The Rev Tweed has stated previously that he is on a work permit. That means he is not Bermudian yet he comes to Bermuda and within less than 2 years is a leader of the People’s Campaign marching against the legal rights of PRC holders. What a shame the OBA took away term limits because he would have been out of here in under 5 years.
He is NOT a Bermudian you twit! I wonder what the Presiding Elder of the AME Church thinks about this man’s activities?
He is not a Bermudian – he is on a work permit. However, he is setting the example that all work permit holders can now have a voice in local politics…..
Are you calling for Canon Francis to suffer the same fate he also insulted the majority of us as with unsubstantiated observation and in certain cases outright lies all in the public domain. If the OBA fail to call for his removal it will confirm they put politics ahead of Bermudians and of course are power seekers SMDH different players same shiet
Here here!!!! 32n64w you’ve written what needed to be written but, you need to submit your letter onto the B.I.U. and P.L.P. and of course the O.B.A. as well as Immigration.
I read just a bit of his statement.
I read just a few of the comments above.
There was no need for me to dwell or even consider his comments but I got the hang of what others wrote in reply.
It’s simple.
He did not write that. Period.
How much they (the PLP) paying him and where the hell is out $800 Million.
I need a swizzle.
There is no missing 800million and I wish people would get the facts before they keep repeating this lie. Ask Bob if you don’t believe me but stop with the nonsense and stick with the issue being discussed.
It’s a perfect example of the “blind leading the blind”. If they don’t know about the $800 million then they don’t want to know (or are plain old stupid!)
The money was borrowed to keep Bermuda dollar worth something for today and tomorrow. Just like and automobile needs fuel / gas so do Governments need money…It’s elementary, 1 plus 1 makes 2 But, 1 from 1 leaves none
@terry—you mean another swizzle..lmao…
So an honourable and wise man of the cloth , one who was born here and lived here all his life and probably has a faint recollection of the days of segregation , writes a forgiving , thoughtful and conciliatory piece and is then attacked by another man of the cloth , one who’s only just arrived on our shores in the last 2 years, with a piece full of vile, inciteful invective and inaccuracies designed to make people angry .
I guess I know which church I’d rather attend . And it aint Rev Sharpton’s either .
First of all cannon Francis did not spend most of his life here, he left in his early twenties aand returned in his late sixties. Know the facts before you type !!
All this to and fro brings to mind the Lighthouse Syndrome – interesting to look at, but no longer serving a purpose.
I have only ever known Canon Francis as an honorable man and a true son of the soil who treats any and everyone in a fair and Godly manner.
I ma very dismayed that a fellow man of the cloth would attack and attempt to denigrate a man that has given his life to the betterment of Bermuda. Especially a man of the cloth who only arrived on our shores less than 2 years prior.
God bless Canon Francis.
Whatever, Francis is an apologist, plain and simple…..please sir give me more sir .
I read and re-read Rev. Tweed’s message.
I’m still trying to find anything vile, hate fueled or anti-Christian about what he said.
He attacked a church and people…. very christian behavior or not?
maybe you cant read…
@ Hmmmm & Gimme a Brak…
Can you be a bit more specific on the so called “attacks”?
Where is the vile language?
Where is the hate speech?
Which specific comments were anti-Christian?
I read very well, and I’m still trying to find it. Maybe you can point it out to me, with clear examples of what you are referring to.
I’m all ears…
Then what school did you go to that you didn’t see what everyone saw?
Just as we thought.
Unable to answer the question.
SAD,Just Sad, To be reading a MEN OF THE CLOTH expressing such negative comments directed to another Pastor. DEPLORABLE!!!!
1) Can someone tell Tweed it is the year 2014 please.
2) Can someone please start a at home class on Common sense in Bermuda it is needed, call it social studies whatever you want.
3) When it is time to vote the majority of Bermudians will vote OBA the people marching and complaing are only a few hundred people there are thousands of people that are thankful we are trying to head in the right direction.
( some of the comments I read and saw on the march on tv, the common sense class is for you.)
“When it is time to vote the majority of Bermudians will vote OBA…”
Well I sure won’t. Not from what I’ve seen so far.
So when did it become cool for church leaders to fight in public over whose political views are better? Get a grip and get over yourself. Leave the real political fight to those that we elected to do so (the PLP), especially since all you want to do is run your mouth with no action! Time for action!
i was de only white kid in my class took alot of abuse white boy this white boy that
should i hate black people no way some of my best amigos are black
theres is always a bad apple in each race
why bob marley made this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdB-8eLEW8g
one love world domination
It sounds to me like you are not representative some of these clowns who commented. You sound less racially motivated and more like one someone who actually listens and relates.
divider
I found this to be an excellent letter.
How Not To Add To A Conversation
After someone presents their ideas:
1. Attack the person’s impact on their country thus far.
2. Attack an organization the person belongs to.
3. Attack whether or not the person has addressed other issues before this one.
4. Second-guess the person’s motives for offering the ideas.
5. Attack arguments and ideas never originally presented, or wrong versions of those ideas.
6. Focus on sub-points and miss the main point.
7. Leave the merit of the original ideas unaddressed.
Example above. Thanks, Rev Tweed.
You got me. I thought you were describing his letter until the end. Good one.
I was describing Rev Tweed’s letter, which was more about attacking Canon Francis than honestly interacting with the main point Canon Francis was driving at.
The Apologist Francis
I am deeply saddened by this response from Rev. Tweed to Rev. , it is to say the least out of order.
As a man of God there are ways to go about doing things to cover the shame of another (biblical).
A letter should have been written directly to Rev. or some sort of correspondence (a phone call or a drive to his home to say, ‘Sir/my Brother can we talk). What happened to using Matthew 18:14-17?
At least give him the opportunity to write another letter to say, ‘I am sorry, I messed up and this is the correction made’.
This should have never come to the public light.
You have forgotten that you are meant to be your brothers keeper not to publicly rebuke him.
Did you pray and ask God for wisdom on how to respond and if you were in fact supposed to respond or just take it to the Lord in prayer and let God deal with it.
There is already too much division in that island and now the wedge has become greater.Did you even sit down and count the cost of what the outcome would be; again to do so is biblical.
The people are meant to be able to come to you to hear what the spirit of God has released for you to say, not your opinion.
With the amount of research that you did to reply to the original letter, that time could have been taken in praying and asking God for direction on how to be the solution to the societal ills as led by the spirit of God not the words of men.
Please I implore you to not become distracted by stuff that is irrelevant to people living lives that is pleasing and acceptable to God.
Open the bible and share with the congregation how to press in to hear God for themselves in spite of many of the challenges that they may face in life.
Share with them that there are examples of people that went to great oppression but they held on and believed that God was well able to turn things around because He is God all by himself.
Rev. Tweed, after a long week of oppression people don’t need to hear your opinion of the obvious, they need a twinge of hope in what looks like a dark and hopeless situation, they need to know that there is a God that is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask if we live right.
If we turn our eyes and heart back to God.
Now I beg of you! It is not because of an appointment that you have been place at St. Paul’s but it is by divine appointment. You lead the way and return back to the heart of worship, draw the people to a week of prayer or round the clock prayers so that there will be a shift in the atmosphere and ultimately a manifestation of the prayers.
Draw Bermuda back to God!!! 2 Chronicles 7:14 Shalom
The BEST healing of advise by far from FATHER HAVE MERCY. Sounds like another AME Pastor crying out to his brother to get back to CHRIST
Thank you Rev. Tweed for your very excellent commentary. An excellent read and very thought provoking. Looking forward to reading more of your articles.
Thank you Rev. Tweed! I am BLACK and after reading your response to Rev. Canon Francis’ letter, I didn’t feel my blood boil. I felt relief. Your letter was mainly to SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT! If anyone one who actually took the time To READ it, they would’ve been of the same opinion and would’ve been more reasonable with their comments that actually boiled my blood! It’s sad but true that you can never speak to some white people about injustices for they will never get it. They think that because it is verbalized that it will cause more racial tension. What they don’t know is that the negative response that follows is usually the fuel to the fire. They cannot grasp that they cannot tell people how to feel. They can however be sensitive to their feelings.
A few years back, my son was attending the Bda College and had a job at a supermarket to help to pay for his tuition. As a cashier, one day he encountered an elderly white woman who, at the end of groceries being rung up, she placed the money on the counter. He in turn returned her change in the same manner cause he assumed that she didn’t want any contact. He was always courteous. The next day he was called into the HR and fired over this exchange. I was in disbelief! If this woman wanted respect, shouldn’t she have extended it? He didn’t think it was a racial thing. So to those people who dont believe that injustices do not occur, you are not everywhere.
It doesn’t matter where you come from to CALL A SPADE, A SPADE! You were factual and sensitive in choosing your words. Unlike some of the comments I read above. I would like to thank you for your contribution in giving us a non political leader. If we had a spokesperson who looks like them, they would denigrate them in the same manner. All I can say is, all you haters keep on hating! I hope that all of the hate you feel doesnt consume you where you don’t even love yourselves!
OMG!!! This is the point so many are trying to make. This man is a Minister of the gospel. Nothing wrong with discussing history but a minister should not be biased towards any race!!!!!
@ need peace,,, you boil my blood !
I would not have expected one reverend to speak out against another like this so publicly but Rev Francis did in my opinion cross the line. Still even though I do not agree with what he said he has the right to his opinion!
All of a sudden there is great concern as to whether Rev, Tweed is a Bermudian? Rich coming from a element that is loud in their opinion that PRC’s should get Bermuda Status?
Rev. Tweed was correct to call a spade a spade after the attempt by Cannon Francis to enter on the side of the anti-Bermudian elements in this country. Now Rev. Tweed is been accuse of hate for telling the truth and taking the side of Bermudians; but I say if it is hate than it is the hate that hate produce.
It not the first time that AME church has been criticize for talking the side of the people; I remember the strike of 1981 when the church sat up a food bank for striking workers; there was criticism over that too. But the late Rev.Lowe reminded them; ‘I marry them; I baptized their babies I bury them; is it not right that I stand with them in their hour of need. Rev. Tweed is not only standing in the shoes of his father Kingsley Tweed who fought against Bermuda’s racist system ; but is following in the long tradition of a church that has always stood on the side of the people and against injustice.
?
Fact: Tweed is a man who teaches fables based upon an ancient book written when we thought the earth was flat. Whatever additional talents he holds, we don’t know.
I don’t care whether he’s Bermudian or not. But someone who’s only professed skill is believing in a magic man in the sky just doesn’t qualify him to be making valid comment on this problem in my opinion.
Please educate me Mr Williams. What is Mr Tweeds experience in law? Has he had experience in international affairs – or just collecting peoples money on the weekend while promising them a free trip to heaven after they die?
PLease advise me of the relevant skills mr Tweed might have to be commenting on this. And telling me he believes in an imaginary friend doesn’t count OK. Won’t hold my breath mr Williams, and if anything I’ll expect you usual diatribe if you reply at all.
P.S. Santa is real too!
I don’t even remotely agree with Rev Tweed but your comment is plain ignorant.
Care to comment on what he said, rather than the fact that you disagree with his faith?
MPP: For the sake of your misundretsand I will try to clarify: Would you have a plumber fix your wiring? I doubt it, you’d rather get an expert in the field you are trying to fix. The fact is that Tweed is not as far as i know, experienced in matters of law or international affairs.
A person experienced in such matters would carry weight in my opinion. The only thing we can say about Tweed is that he believes in God.
Now if that is OK with you then great. But in my opinion it does not make him qualified to be an authority on this at all. All he did was bring religion and the associated guilt and BS along with it into the conversation. He comments have no value other than to try and control people thru their indoctrinated belief in a deity.
When you have no real point to make, but you still want to sway public opinion, get religion into it. It is used in politics all the time. It is just one of the problems with religion. It is used to control people. Have a ‘blessed’ day.
I’m sorry, Mr. Williams. But Rev Tweed is not taking the side of this particular Bermudian, or a long list of other Bermudians. He is standing against me and a good deal of that which I believe.
In response to this “but I say if it is hate than it is the hate that hate produce.”
As a man of god, this is an unacceptable perspective. A person with god in their heart does not meet hate with hate. They meet hate with love and the strength of what is right.
I’ll make it clear, I have no problem with the AME church, or religions in general, but I do have a problem with the words of Rev Tweed and yourself.
It makes me sad to hear such anger that must be eating away at your souls.
When I was a child, I used the words hate. But when I became and adult I learned what hatred meant and would have none of it.
May you find peace.
As Bermudians, we are stewards of our Island Home….
As stewards, our way of life should depict…, and encourage virtue that bears the fruit of solidarity amongst people.
We must ever be mindful of how our choice of words affects others, and the motive behind what drives us…
In-deed, our Island home needs healing….
These stormy experiences will cloud, and troubled winds will blow… However through it all, it can be used to build character, strengthen, teach, and heal……… If we’re to ever grow…..
Again, we are stewards of our beautiful, BLESSED Island Home….
This guy is a foreigner,a Limey!
I am going to give all my hard earned $$$$$$$. To the reverend. He looks sharp in those suits I will pay for.
Reading the contents of Rev.Tweed response to Canon Francis is nothing short of DISPICABLE. It’s a SAD SAD day in Bermuda when you read a letter from a MAN OF THE CLOTH going after another MAN OF THE CLOTH in such a negative way. LORD HELP BERMUDA AND LORD HELP THOSE MEMBERS OF ST.PAUL AME CHURCH. Has anyone thought for one minute of the work Canon Francis has done in this country for BERMUDIANS. Has anyone thought how Black People had fought and fought back in the day for Canon Francis to be in such a position to now LEAD the congregation of Christ Church Devonshire My My, we now need to spend time praying for Ministers behind the pulpit and HOPE they are sincere
Tweed is clearly an Al Sharpton wannabee. PLP couldn’t afford the real thing so they got a copy. Talks with fake authority, raises the race card, spreads hate.
A bit like the Michael Jackson imitator we had here over Cup Match. Not the real thing but still gets the masses going.
But with Tweed, spreading his form of hate in the name of God is particularly obscene.
When the pot begins to boil, Tweed will catch the nearest taxi, with his non Bermudian passport in hand, and head for the airport.
I think that Rev Tweed’s letter was excellent, straight and to the point. It’s unfortunate that many of these comments, attacking Rev.
Tweed, is just and indication of the level of hate that some people have for the truth. You can blame the Rev, all you like the fact is that truth sometimes hurt.
Rev. Tweeds knowledge of church history, cannot be denied. The fact that the Anglican church has a long history of supporting slavery, is a reality. for those who cannot except the true facts, I can only say poor you. As the saying goes “IT IS WHAT IT IS”.
but Shirley: What does his knowledge of church history have to do with this issue? And why is his church knowledge at all relevant to the PRC issue? I am very knowledgeable on natural history and geology in fact ther’s not a lot I don’t know about them. But I wouldn’t say that this would help me at all in judging the PRC issue. Why should Mr Tweeds knowledge of the church be any different and why would it make him an authority on anything other than the church? Juss sayin.
“It’s sad but true that you can never speak to some white people about injustices for they will never get it.”
It’s even more sad that most black people hate gays and lesbians so much they’d march in protest against equal rights for all Bermudians….in other words, they’re no better than the white people they hate so much.
I don’t think “most” is a verifiable fact in this case, to be fair to those who do support gay rights in Bermuda
Ever notice how when someone tries to get a point across but has no point to make – they get a religious person involed?
In the old days PLP would call the race card when they had no point to make – at least they seem to have moved on from that.
It matters not whether Tweed is white, Black, Bermudian or not. What matters is how much he knows about the letter of the law and international affairs.
All we know is that he talks about old fictional characters, and collects money from people on the weekend. Just how does that make him any more qualified to speak than anyone else?
Would you take a plumber, taxi driver, waiter or anyone else as your spokesman? Then why take a man of the cloth. What special skill does he have apart from a belief in a magic man in the sky. And why does this make him in any way credible? At least the plumber, taxi driver, waiter take our money after doing something for us – not just promising us eternity after we die.
What is so amazing, some people have the nerve to quote The Rev. Martin Luther King when a large portion of white folk hated the man for what he stood for. They didn’t even want to extend the basic human right of sitting down in a restaurant and using the restroom. They fought tooth and nail to maintain that racist system. Even here in Bermuda, it took so much fighting and protesting before we could receive our basic human rights. Inequality is staring us right in the face in Bermuda up until today. We just don’t want to admit it. Unless we straighten it out, it is going to blow right up in our face, believe me.
Let me tell you something Ms Elizabeth Trumparani ;I have never been to a university; never studied foreign affairs in a academic setting but believe me I can discuss foreign affairs have written on many aspects of foreign affairs; international relations between countries; historical back ground to conflicts between nations’ internal conflicts between peoples within the same national border. Look at the archives of the old Mid-Ocean News. Go to the library and look old additions of the Workers Voice and see that which I speak off. Makes no difference how I got here; the fact is I am here; a testimony to human potential but more importantly a testimony to Bermudian potential. Now I see that you have complete contempt for religious sentiment and in particular Rev. Tweed. Well that is just too bad on your part. Mankind has always had a spiritual impulse and despite your disdain for the said it is unlikely to be stamp out. As for the cause that Rev. Tweed is one of the leaders; well it like this; it is a question as to whose country this is and we the Bermudian people are not going to allowed it to be taken away from us. We will resist and resolve once and for all that this country belongs to the Bermudian people.
Thank you Alvin for confirming that you never went to University. You also never answered my question regarding Tweed. That is: What authority, apart from a belief in God, does Tweed have to be commenting on out prolems? Is a belief in God enough?
Tweed go back to wenst you came! How dare you take on the Government of the day on this subject !! Who are you ?? And where were you when the PLP DESTROYED this Island in their 14 year`s of non-performance and inability to take on this subject?
Stop saying you speak for the people, because I am people and you Sir “DO NOT” speak for me !! Man of the cloth my backside !
“The fact that the Anglican church has a long history of supporting slavery, is a reality. for those who cannot except the true facts, I can only say poor you. As the saying goes “IT IS WHAT IT IS”.”
Look at the AME churches stance AGAINST the rights of gay people around the world. Practice what you preach, or shut your hypocritical mouths.
The truth hurts, and the AME church is disgraceful in their treatment of a certain segment of the population.
Reverend Tweed , you are not welcome here.
I stopped reading after the two words,,,
TRUTH HURTS THAT WHY!!!HAHA
Sure you did because he tread on your toes.
TRUTH HURTS!!!