Cannabis Activists Protest Outside OBA HQ

September 3, 2014

A group of protesters, led by cannabis activist Alan Gordon, gathered outside the One Bermuda Alliance’s headquarters on Reid Street yesterday evening [Sept 2] to protest the government’s policy on cannabis.

The OBA held a meeting yesterday, and as the MPs left the building they were greeted by Mr. Gordon and his fellow activists, who were holding a paper chain, while one person holding a sign saying “Let our people grow.”

The slideshow below had 15 photos from the protest:

When Premier Michael Dunkley came out of the building he stopped, and he and Mr. Gordon discussed the island’s cannabis policy, especially as it relates to access to medical marijuana.

8-minute video of the group, Mr. Gordon and the Premier [our apologies for the quality!]

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  1. swing voter says:

    I applaud this group for at least being respectful during their demonstration. unfortunately they don’t stand a chance of getting what they want…..until election season

    • BETTTY TRUMP's FACT CHECKER says:

      Keep standing Strong Mr. Gordon, and hold the Government Accountable. Fighting for anything takes strength and power to push it forward. Hang in there !!

      • Black Soil says:

        Alan Gordon has zero medical training. Nor is he an engineer. How many want him to build the hospital and look after patients? If you have cancer, see an oncologist. If you need your accounts audited, see an auditor. If you need to submit a proposal to planning, see an architect. If you want to fly, find a plane and a trained pilot. If you find yourself in trouble with the law, see a barrister. If your child is sick, see a pediatrician.

        • mj says:

          @black soil–ahem, ahem, everything starts at home, with the mother first, what happened to us making decisions on our own body, if we are having a baby why do we have to go to the hospital, this was not so years ago, there is no sane explaination as to why a PLANT is harmful,not everything is so cut and dry, and lawyers cost money… Cancer and other illnesses are due to our own eating habits and lots of people vary in what they can and cannot take, the studies unfortunately are only done on one group of people and so we are not getting accurate diagnosis half the time..Where are the HOLISTIC practitioners.. We don’t want to be on drugs for the rest of our lives we should be able to use ANY herb, plant, anything natural that we feel works for us., That choice has been taken away because of the pharmecutical drugs that we have been conditioned to yearn for rather than understand the make up of our own bodies, and requirements..

          • Black Soil says:

            @mj…you sound like a “know it all expert” who has zero medical training. Why don’t you tell the engineers how to build the hospital correctly. You also have no concept of public safety.

            • efudd says:

              Black Soil, You sound like someone that just wants to cause trouble. MJ made some valid points, all I see you doing is spouting off and acting like a bully. You spoke your mind, why is it so difficult to let others do the same without trying to belittle them?

        • filobedo21 says:

          Very old thinking. When you get cancer and have put your your health in an Oncologists’ hands. Then come back and tell you fare. In the mean time why don’t you do some research from the world sphere and educate yourself, until then, Please keep quiet.

    • VJ says:

      I beg to differ.

      I don’t think it was very respectful to get up in the Premier’s face, bombarding him with questions and talking over him.

      Nowhere else in the world can you even get that close and personal to the leader of the country. It looked mighty dangerous to me. If that was the US, the Secret Service would have laid somebody out a long time ago.

      I feel for the people with their issue, but I don’t think a mob confronting the Premier was the right way to go about it. I’m not even an OBA supporter, but even I have to admit I admire Premier Dunkley’s style. Very cool under pressure. Good job (two thumbs up).

      • Alan Gordon says:

        We were upset, and out of options.

        Here’s the thing: the Premier said the license programme is still open, but he did not address:

        1. patient applications (filed correctly, by doctors) were rejected. I have seen the correspondence, and have copies. So he is deceptive. He said onyl one applications has been filed, and that none have been rejected, but that is not true.

        2. For some of these patients, this is life or death. 2 Bermudian cancer patients were sent abroad for treatment with cannabis oil (both late stage, out of options). Both are showing remarkable results… tumours shrinking, blood counts improved by over 50% in one patient, plus his diabetes accidentally and unexpectedly improved dramatically. THAT PATIENT IS NOW TRAPPED HERE IN BERMUDA, WITHOUT ANY ABILITY TO GET ACCESS TO THE OIL THAT WAS SAVING HIS LIFE.

        3. It is not lawful for Government to have secret application rules for ANYTHING, and why should it be? These poor dying patients have to apply correctly, and yet they are not allowed to know the rules for applying.

        Yeah, we got right up in his grill, because he once again deceived the people of Bermuda, and we have the documentation to prove it. Doing this for PR value, while letting patients continue to suffer, is cruel, I say.

        Why can’t you see this?

        • serengeti says:

          Alan, explain what the slogan “let our people grow” has to do with medical necessity.

          • Black Soil says:

            Alan… Study the law and make the application. To say that things are ‘secret’ is an admittance that you’re too lazy to understand things and then proceed positively from there. I think there is evidence that smoking-up tends to make people have temper flare ups. Chill out and learn how to work with people rather than hoping people respond to your freak outs.

        • Double D says:

          No one was deceived.

          Do we really need to start this argument again?

          Dunkley cited the legislation which provides the avenue for procuring medical marijuana at the Minister’s discretion.

          Nowhere did he or any other Govt representative state that all applications will be approved. There is no secret application or programme that you constantly yammer on about. It is a piece of legislation that was cited by Dunkley in January and that piece of legisltion still exists.

          So once again you are lying. You couldn’t refute my allegations in the thread last week and you can’t do it now.

          And on top of that I know about 3/4s of the participants in the above photos and not one has cancer or are gravely ill. They just like to smoke and there is nothing wrong with that.

          So another lie of yours claiming that your paper chain will be comprised of gravely ill patients. And VJ is right your over the top aggressive approach hinders your cause as it makes you look like an extemist a-hole that can’t tell the truth.

          All for reform, but totally against a protest and/or movement based on blatant and unfettered lies.

        • Rhonnie aka BlueFamiliar says:

          1. He may well only know of one application. If there have been other applications and they were rejected, present them to the minister and the premier at the same time.

          Personally, I’d like to know why there were rejected.

          2. Was the person who was responding positively only being treated by cannabis oil, or was it in conjunction with other treatments?

          3. It’s not secret. It’s never been secret. As far as I know it’s purely based on the Minister’s descretion. Arbitrary yes, but one would hope that it was based on the laws of Bermuda, and a compassionate heart.

          And before anyone gets carried away, I support cannabis use for medical purposes. But I’m also realistic in understanding what it can and can’t do, and aware of the laws that are presently in effect in Bermuda.

          “Getting right up in his grill” is inappropriate behaviour and accomplishes nothing for anyone. Calm respectful is better. Ask for the option to sit down and speak with the minister and the premier on the issue, because facing them down on the street won’t get you answers.

          • sage says:

            Dunkley walked up in his grill, Alan Gorden was standing on the sidewalk when the Premier walked down the stairs wasn’t he? You want people to grovel?

            • serengeti says:

              So in your mind the only two options are:
              (a) offensively yelling into someone’s face from 3 inches away, or
              (b) groveling.

              Right?

      • bdaboy says:

        If it was in the US or Canada this wouldn’t be happening, since these countries have recognised the importance of medical marijuana, it’s Bermuda that will always be behind the times, and fight to stay there.

    • The Underground Movement says:

      The Premier and the Protestor handled this protest very well
      I agree if this group gets enough people on board they could become a issue in thhe next election.
      The PLP have already shown signs of agreement but the OBA just might be a bit too conservative
      to give any concrete answers. [ now]
      If the protest continues to the next election it could be used as another get the vote promise.— by both Political Partys.

  2. Unbelievable says:

    Hahah I get the medical marijuana part….but there are people win those pictures who just want to get high.

    I know some of them. Please. Talk about co-opting an issue.

    • Alan Gordon says:

      Just want to get high? I have terminal and gravely ill patients calling me day and night, in tears, as they should be, because the medicine that could bring them comfort or even save their lives is impossible to get here, despite promises made by Government.

      People who just want to get high, as you call it, wouldn’t come out and expose their faces like that, when they could just sit home and get high, innit?

      • Unbelievable says:

        Alan, I’d rather you just admit it should be a personal choice instead of using medical marijuana as a cover.

        • Whistling Frog says:

          @ Unbelievable: Isn’t it ones personal choice to drink alcohol? Why are people allowed to go to the pharmacy to get an over the counter pain killer? Which can cause great damage if not taken as prescribed.
          It’s also ones personal choice to drive while under these substances, it’s against the law to do so but people still do, don’t they? People like you should mind your own business when it comes to ones personal choices of relieving their tensions, especially when they have no intentions of hurting anyone else while doing so…

          • serengeti says:

            So you admit it. It’s nothing to do with medical necessity.

            • LOL (Original TM*) says:

              Again do some reading your jumping from one all in circle to the next. This issue has been studied for some time. Are you the type to throw the baby out with the bath water?

        • Alan Gordon says:

          Dying and gravely ill patients call me day and night, in tears. If I make a personal choice about cannabis, and think it should be legal (both true), then I don’t think that should even be discussed until gravely ill patients, as a matter of compassion, are dealt with first, because they have time-sensitive emergencies.

          We have to look after the meek and suffering first. That is what Christ Jesus teaches us, and you know that.

          • serengeti says:

            So why did you have the ‘let our people grow’ banner? What does that have to do with purported medical necessity?

            • sage says:

              Are you brain dead ? What do you propose, buying it overseas?

              • serengeti says:

                Are you brain dead?
                Yes, to answer your f..ng stupid question.

                • LOL (Original TM*) says:

                  You most have a personal issue with it as some do and that is your right. I think it should be grown here too if you are caught importing or in some cases exporting the US will put you on the stop list as importation is against the law growing it would avoid that consequence as it stands now. As per the US Councilet.

                  LOL

          • hmmm says:

            Why didn’t you answer Dunkley at 7:10 to 7:24 ???????????

            You ducked that one by ignoring Dunkley.

      • Creamy says:

        So why the focus on allowing people to “grow”? That’s nothing to do with medical need.

        • Tricks are For Kids says:

          Those that are ALLOWED to grow will be licensed to do so….It can be home grown and sold locally to licensed distributors instead of importing it….Duhhhh…#buybermuda

          • serengeti says:

            So the question remains – why the focus on allowing people to “grow”? That has nothing to do with some purported ‘medical necessity’. And you know it.

            • Tricks Are For Kids says:

              “…. and you know it”…..Actually I don’t know that and neither do you so stop assuming….purported?? you don’t know what the people are going through…..smh…..

            • LOL (Original TM*) says:

              Three words “US STOP LIST” thats why it should be grown here.

              LOL

            • Keepin' it Real!...4Real! says:

              people are dying and you are tid bidding about the word “grow”…you sound like you don’t want us to grow world class CLEAN ganja…hmmm…you probably have an overseas link that ya tryna hook up, most of us have mortgages you know…irrelevance look that up.

              • Creamy says:

                It’s nothing to do with “medical”. That’s a total sham argument.

        • mj says:

          @creamy–to be sovereign is to have the ability to do what one wants without interference as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else.. why should we need permission to grow what naturally does anyway?!!!!some people just don’t get the difference between and “HERB” and a Drug(man made substances)…Herbs are natural and we are natural so naturally we need to fill our bodies with nature including the Sun at least two hours a day for melinated people to maintain their melanin content, this is why we are sick people, our bodies work overtime to change unatural substances we feed ourselves, to something digestible, but doctors and people that benefit financially from ignorance will not tell us the truth and continue to control our lives with hypocrisy!

          • hmmm says:

            so you just chow down on the plant in it’s natural state do you ?

            interesting

            • LOL (Original TM*) says:

              You think that crazy do you? Well people take drugs manufactured by companies that may or may not have passed FDA requlations and/or may have had to pay the FDA to get the drugs approved. Only to find out that long term use could cause a plethora of issues down the road like unexplained headachs, skin rash, kidnet/liver failure, lung issues, depression, alterations in passed down genetic material (ie deformaties and such)………..

              LOL and you think people that want to use MJ as an alternative to drugs that are potentially killing us slowly are crazy…………. we need to be reeducated on this topic for sure if that is the case.

      • Anbu says:

        Expose their faces? Lmfao im not for stereotyping but seriously?!!! Its common knowledge that a large chunk of the community smoke herb. They wouldnt have to hold a sign campaigning for a cause that they wish to abuse. Get real man. Its never gonna happen. The gov will never allow it until they make sure they get the biggest piece of the pie when it comes to the money making aspect of it. Im all for legalization and yes i agree that ill patients should have that option if they so choose. Bit having people like that to push for your cause is useless. When we see politicians and church leaders(dont hold ur breath on that one lol) then maybe we might make some progress.

      • hmmm says:

        Why do they call you day and night?

        Are you a dealer or facilitator?

        The fact that you had the opportunity of giving Dunkley your alleged refused applications on video, but didn’t speaks volumes.

      • hmmm says:

        Also Alan, isn’t it interesting that you paint a picture of smokers as people that would prefer to “just sit home and get high”, rather than do something they would deem positive.

      • enough says:

        Sorry to disagree but I also know people in those pictures who, as a choice, like to smoke marijuana, and I also know they are not terminally ill in any shape or form. Please inform us as to how many of theses critically ill patients have already had access to Medical marijuana and how many are just going by what others say, as to how much good it does you.

        • Keepin' it Real!...4Real! says:

          Weren’t you educated by what others say..? and like YOU said, “I also know people in those pictures who, as a choice, like to smoke marijuana, and I also know they are not terminally ill in any shape or form.”
          I’m sure that the fighters for this cause will thank you for helping the cause by presenting your dissertation on the apparent quality of life of these people who smoke or use cannabis products…
          Prevent Terminal Illness Today folks!.

      • enough says:

        Sorry, but who exactly are you and are you one of tose patienst or do you have a doctorate or something. Interested to hear

  3. Funny says:

    Let our people grow.

    Hahaha.

  4. Time to change the name back UBP 100% says:

    Sad thing is the ubp/oba promised so much $h** before the election and now all the promise $h** has been flushed down the toilet. People like this say anything to get in power.

  5. We Are Not Amused! says:

    13 people can make a differnace when it comes to voting,but I think these 13 don’t stand a chance of getting their pot.

  6. feel the love says:

    Please stop the mass demonstration! The people have spoken!!!
    .02% are in favour. Pass the law now!

  7. pebblebeach says:

    Michael Dunkley be like….

  8. Come Correct says:

    When you first 6 can tell us all why this plant is illegal, a legit reason, then you have a leg to stand on. VJ your opinion doesn’t matter because your oppressive mentality still runs blue in your veins. If I want to get high I’ll take a 5 min walk. You all need to get your heads out of your a.

    • VJ says:

      @Come Correct, your reading comprehension skills are pi$$ poor.

      My issue wasn’t with Mr. Gordon or the camapign. My issue was with the (in my opinion) disrespectful manner in which they approached the Premier. A mob beating a drum, with people shouting questions and interrupting Mr. Dunkley as he tried to talk was not the way to go about things.

      Furthermore, I think it should be people’s PERSONAL choice whether they smoke weed, just as it is their choice to smoke cigarettes. It’s your body, and if that is what you want then why should anybody else care. It is also my personal opinion that alcohol, which is legal, does far more damage and destruction than weed does. So don’t tell me that I have an oppression attitude, because I’m not the one.

      On one final note, FYI I have a sibling that is gravely ill with cancer right now. If smoking marijuana would help her suffering, I think I would be pretty peeved if she wasn’t allowed to have it.

  9. LickMyChicken says:

    Now we know who the smokers are HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Jeff says:

      Smoking weed in Bermuda is so people can self medicate to deal with the extreme boredom of living in Fort Knox. Some people drink or overeat to deal with this serious problem of boredom. Smoking weed seems to have the least affect on the islands health services. Drinking is a problem that needs to be addressed, that affects too many people and destroys so many lives.

  10. Coffee says:

    Riddle me this …… Now why would Dunkeley want to take the money out of the Iowa ?

  11. Keepin' it Real!...4Real! says:

    why is it that so many commenters here have done absolutely no homework for themselves..? its quite obvious by your opinions…you have no interest in the cannabis industry but yet you feel the need to impede someone else’s interests to suit your own indoctrination of falsehoods. Keep memorizing what they keep repeating…repetitions soon become instinctual…now, i see where this is gonna get too complex for feeble little minds to comprehend. smfh

  12. Local Yokle says:

    I would vote yes for medical marijuana.

    • Sandgrownan says:

      Why?

      • sage says:

        Because he/she has empathy and compassion and common sense.

        • serengeti says:

          No, it’s because he and his 15 mates want to grow ganga and get high.
          It’s nothing to do with compassion.

  13. Jus' Askin' says:

    The OBA have NO interest in helping all the people of Bermuda.
    To deny people an option of health care that has been proven to work says a lot about the OBA.
    “A Better Bermuda for All Bermudians” is all I want ;-)

    • Sandgrownan says:

      Proven? Citation please.

    • LOL (Original TM*) says:

      Sorry I missed the part in your speech where you point out the movement on this issue in the PLP years.

      LOL OBA do it you’ll be back in power at the next election lets face it if the economy does not improve you’ll need this and consription to be eliminated to be re elected heres a chance to get the bull by it’s horns will you talk it and give your self some street cred or will you lose to the PLP and let them do it dooming all your political dreams. You could just join the PLP like all the other UBP people whom could not get their way for various reasons.

      • Jus' Askin' says:

        Nor did my speech mention the movement on this issue in the UBP years ;-)

        • hmmm says:

          Did medicinal MJ even exist in the UBP years ? I’d never heard of it being perscribed to patients.

          The internet was only a baby then too.

          • Jus' Askin' says:

            You really are funny, UBP were in power until 1998. The internet
            was quite grown by then. People have used natural means of ‘medicine’ for thousands of years. MJ being used for medical reasons can be traced back to even the romans. I guess books are foreign to you ;-)

            • hmmm says:

              No it wasn’t it was in it’s infancy with dial up and slow to download photos if you were lucky.

              You obviously hardly used the 1998 internet…were the UBP only in for part of that year…so we are really talking pre-1998

    • bdaboy says:

      Why didn’t the PLP do it when they had a chance?

      • Jus' Askin' says:

        Why didn’t UBP do it when they had a chance?
        See how silly it sounds when we go backwards ;-)

  14. islandguy says:

    With all the marchers we have in Bermuda the regiment should be full of volunteers!And have one of the best bands:)
    Or maybe there to high.lolololol

  15. MAKE MY DAY says:

    Yesterday in the USA – again …. A very scientific study undertaken by a very prestigious American University in conjunction with their British and European partners – made a decision that this “drug” (Marijuana) affects young adolescent minds/ brains – in an adverse way!!!

    You people are being “FOOLED” about the dangerous of “smoking” period!!! Do NOT smoke anything…Period!!!

    IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT STATEMENT…. THEN CALL ME!!! I WILL SET-YOU-STRAIGHT!!!

    • betty dump says:

      What does your comment have to do with medical marijuana for terminally ill patients?

      Also, there are non-psychoactive chemicals in cannabis that are successfully treating children for extreme cases of epilepsy. Cases in which children that would eventually die a painful death because of suffering up to hundreds of seizures per day having their seizures reduced to only once or none.

  16. Tricks are For Kids says:

    Medicinal Marijuana has PROVEN healing/soothing effects so I personally don’t see what the issue is in obtaining it for people here on the island that need it….Bermuda likes to jump on the “bandwagon” and adapt things like the rest of the world so they need to get on THIS “wagon” and assist with those that require it…..I agree it probably won’t happen until election time OR if they or one of their family members need it.

  17. Tricks are For Kids says:

    Forgot to add that allowing people to apply without telling them the process or giving them guidelines to do so, than denying them, because their application isn’t correct IS cruel…..#JMO

    • Tricks are For Kids says:

      LOL @ the dislikes……really?….not revealing how to fill out the form is deceitful…..I hope you and yours never have to expereince what these people are going through…They have legalised medical marijuana in many states so why not here….You would be the same ones to change your tune WHEN (because its just a matter of time) it is approved and think that the decison to legalise it is the next best thing to sliced bread…LOL…#paidbloggers…

  18. Onion says:

    There were more journalists than protesters.

    • LOL (Original TM*) says:

      Think about what it would take to be there I would have been but the negative stigma about being there is an issue look at the insensitive people above and how they are talking about the people who are there.

      LOL

    • Alan Gordon says:

      That is because it is very difficult for gravely ill patients to GET to a rally, let alone show their faces. In that line of patients were cancer sufferers, MS sufferers, and people suffering from other grave ailments.

      Marches aren’t just about showing a majority, by a huge turnout. This wasn’t a march — it was a small group of gravely ill patients demanding to see the Premier. Sadly, he told the patients and the media a new lie.

      Ayo Johnson asked the Premier how many licenses had been applied for and rejected, and the Premier said none, but that is not true. I have in my hand 2 rejection letters from the Govt to patients’ doctors, who applied on behalf of gravely ill patients.

      The Premier told an untruth and I have the proof right here in my hand. All the media have been given copies.

      • islandguy says:

        Is it the plant itself or the oil that is proven?

      • Hmmm says:

        Then we look forward to seeing them printed in the press.

        please answer my question:

        1)Why didn’t you answer Dunkley at 7:10 to 7:24 ???????????

        You ducked that one by ignoring Dunkley. You heard him it was given away by your facial reaction.

        2) What is in this for you? What are you actually after here?

      • enough says:

        how come you didn’t answer him directly when he asked you about your application.

        • Alan Gordon says:

          I did not apply, except to ask about bringing in a bulk shipment for several patients at once, with doctors’ permission.

          Morphine isn’t ordered from overseas on a per-patient basis, and the importers and shippers are neither doctors nor pharmacists, yet they are allowed to. This is so when you break a bone, or have a heart attack, you don’t have to wait a month to get a permit and ship it.

          I know you don’t think Dunk would ever do anything wrong, but he has been dishonest (we have his own words to prove it, in correspondence) — and he’s eager to distract.

          What he wanted to distract you FROM is the fact that patients applied, thru their doctors, and were turned down, and the reason stated is that the programme was closed.

        • Alan Gordon says:

          I have never applied for a medial cannabis license for myself — just to import bulk oil for many patients at once, so that it would be on-hand.

          My application stated that it would be stored by the Chief Medical Officer, and I never had any intent to charge even for my time setting up the transaction, let alone charging patients for profit’s sake.

          Don’t be too clever. If you held your Premier to the same standards you’re asking of me, you’d see that he has told a vicious untruth tto the media, the public, and the dying patients.

          He said no one had applied thru their Dr, and yet we have Govt correspondence indicating that 2 such patients were turned down.

          That is the ONLY reason Dunk even asked that question — even you should be able to see why he was eager to distract media attention from the patients he rejected. Why he denied that he’d rejected them, I will never know.

          Case closed.

  19. bdaboy says:

    It’s amazing how many Bermudians are against this, yet have no problem buying beer in a gas station and driving drunk. Bermuda is know as one of the most alcoholic societies in the world…this is what you’re proud of?

    • Tricks are For Kids says:

      Exactly….Selling the medical marijuana can be set up as a legitimate, licensed business that can be taxed…..what is the problem….Are they worried about the illegal aspects?….That already exists…the drug trade is the drug trade….seperate entity…let the police handle that……unlike the drug trade medical marijuana can be controlled and regulated….

  20. Buju says:

    This hypocrisy bewilders me; how u can so quickly change laws to allow the sale of Alcohol(possible the #1 cause of our social ills) on Sunday. I never saw any body petitioning govt. for that? Its Ok ‘Bermudians love to drink’.
    What about those of us hard working, tax paying, otherwise law abiding Bermudians ‘Who love to smoke Cannabis’ and voted U into power?

  21. Realize & Legalize says:

    Cannabis > Chemo

  22. SmIttY says:

    iN THE STATES IF YOU ARE A MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENT YOU ARE ABLE TO GROW YOUR OWN.IN SOME STATES YOUR ABLE TO GROW AS MANY AS 100 TREES. DO YOUR RESEARCH! ITS AMAZING HOW SOME COME IN HERE WITH ABSOLUTELY IGNORANCE OF THIS TOPIC BUT HAVE THE MOST TO SAY!!I WONDER HOW MANY ALCOHOL CONSUMERS IN HERE AGAINST MEDICAL MARIJUANA OR EVEN RECREATION MARIJUANA USE! WHAT HYOCRISY!!!! ALCOHOL DESTROYS LIVES AND FAMILIES EVERYDAY!! HOW MANY FAMILIES DO YOU KNOW THAT ARE DESTROYED BY MARIJUANA?? HAHAHA

    • hmmm says:

      It makes you lean towards being short tempered and angry, perhaps shouting !!!!!

      http://www.addictionrecoveryguide.org/message_board/index.php?act=ST&f=21&t=70862

      • bdaboy says:

        That’s the best you could do? Try reading the whole thread, it doesn’t support your premise.

        • hmmm says:

          There is enough evidence there from enough people to draw a conclusion.

          • bdaboy says:

            No, actually there isn’t. You cited one questionable internet forum, if that’s how you make your decisions it explains a lot about you. You’re clearly that well educated and should probably not post any more, you’re just embarrassing yourself.

      • SmIttY says:

        SORRY BUDDY I THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AFFECTS OF YOUR LIQUID POISON!!!

    • serengeti says:

      Really? So these people who Alan Gordon says were ‘too sick to attend the march’…they’re ‘gravely ill’…yet they plan to find the energy from somewhere to grow 100 mj plants for their personal use?

      I think we see.

      • Independent says:

        @ Serengeti,

        Why do you seem to be so against weed? Do you know most of the information we were exposed to is not true? If you do not believe me, go do the research. The information is there. Premier Dunkley says he has to adhere to the law, but they are the GOV, they can make, break, and change laws as they so see fit, so that’s an excuse. I don’t believe it took that long to change the law about selling alcohol on Sundays???

        To be truthful, I could care less if my neighbor, mother, cousin or whoever wants to smoke weed. It’s their body, and it’s their choice. And on another note, people talk about weed being the gateway drug lmao, the real gateway drug is Alcohol, and every single one of you MP’s know it. How many people will continue to die on our streets, as this system continues to tell us weed is the big bad wolf, when the statistics tell us what the real problem is.

        • Tricks are for Kids says:

          They will continue to complain until they or a family member need it….than they’ll change their tune…They don’t know how beneficial it can be…
          #ontheoutsidelookingin

        • serengeti says:

          Why do you think I’m “against weed”? Because I asked Alan a question? I (and others) asked him several times why he had the sign talking about the right to “grow”, when he tries to paint this as a medical issue.

          The two things are not the same.

          I notice there is no response from Alan to any of my posts, or the other posts raising the same issue.

      • bdaboy says:

        No, you don’t see. You’re very narrow minded and obviously have a hard time thinking for yourself….signs of a true alcoholic.

      • SmIttY says:

        HUH? are you in Disney?

      • Alan Gordon says:

        Serengeti

        Around the world, when people need cannabis but are too sick to grow it, they nominate a licensed ‘caregiver’ to grow it for them.

        We have been sending Bermudians to overseas legal caregivers for this purpose. Because Bermudians are so sweet, one caregiver has been refusing all payment, and even taking the patients into her home while they heal, all without taking one hog penny in compensation.

        OK? :)

        Good question, and there is your answer.

    • Heavens says:

      everybody knows these medical mj prescriptions are bogus! anyone, and I mean, anyone can get one. this is just a pre-cursor for having a pot shops like starbucks i.e. on every street corner! listen, Bda govt – no matter which party is in charge – are going to do nothing without following the lead of the FEDERAL U.S. govt. second, when pot does get legalized it will be distributed much like cigarettes are now, with licensed farmers who must sell to licensed manufacturers and distributors… all being taxed along the food chain. In fact, don’t be surprised if Big Tobacco isn’t already working on that plan. Third, any medical mj will be taken over by Big Pharma. So, good luck with all of that.

      • sage says:

        So you will be writing the regulations?

      • Alan Gordon says:

        ‘bogus’?

        Whoever wrote that may be referring to peripheral problems seen in California, but here, we’re talking abut terminally ill patients. The number of demonstrators on Tuesday evening who had cancer, lupus, quadriplegia, or other serious ailments was pretty high. Using fear of Starbucks-ism to deny medicine to those people is (at best) un-informed or (at worst) savagely sadistic.

    • enough says:

      I know of some, so maybe you had best do your research also.

  23. Sunshine says:

    So did this group also demonstrate about this when the PLP were in or are all protests saved for anyone who isn’t the PLP?

  24. somuchless says:

    I’m sure these are the same people who fly the kites? Lol

  25. Rasta says:

    Decriminalize Marijuana!

  26. more than enough says:

    As cannabis is among the least harmful substances available for our use, and infact, benificial in treating and curing many of the afflictions and diseases present in our modern society…not to mention the hundreds of other uses of this quintessential plant, except one… the oh so hated practice of smoking (which has been proven not to cause the same problems associated with smoking tobacco ie lung cancer emphysema etc…) for these reasons and too many more to mention, this herb,specifically cannabis,ganja,weed etc… should have never been illegal in the first place.
    The entire planet is slowly recognizing the importance of biodiversity and whether you like it or not, ganja is an important essential part of our world.Deserving to be protected and preserved and studied for the use and benefit of future generations.
    Ganja has been here longer than any living person, and will likely outlive our children and grandchildren for many generations.
    All the misunderstanding, false propoganda, and unnecessary laws pertaining to this herb…the only illegal plant (that I know of) should be completely dismantled and disregarded.
    Many have written about ganja, representing as truth what was infact was derived from ignorance,error or envy.
    Despite the onslaught of lies and false propoganda the truth remains the same…
    Respect the herb…legalize it NOW!

  27. Rasta says:

    Sunshine.
    People protest now because the OBA listens.It did not make sense protesting when the PLP were in power as they did not care what people thought!

  28. more than enough says:

    “When government fear the people, there is liberty.
    When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” Jefferson

  29. more than enough says:

    The silence,is deafening.

  30. Keepin' it Real!...4Real! says:

    i think the people opposing this subject some how are profiting from its black market trade…some way some how…otherwise in my opinion they are dumb and stupid and should not have any leverage in how some one else lives their life as long as it doesn’t impede on yours…what gives YOU the right??? Please Do Tell…

    • Sara says:

      I kind of agree. Most of the arguments put forward for keeping the current status quo have been addressed ad nauseaum. Arguments involving age restrictions, area restrictions(churches,schools, most public places), dui laws, occupational restrictions have been addressed or are being addressed in other jurisdictions and they are able to proceed forward with legalization be it medical or recreational. Thus, how anyone thinks they can legitimately and logically defend prohibition is really beyond me.

  31. more than enough says:

    Legalize it

  32. Sara says:

    These conversations in Bermuda are becoming comical to me. The rest of the world is moving forward on this issue whether it be for medical or recreational. Behind Bermuda will miss out big time but isn’t that what we do here, miss the boat on pretty much everything lol.