Comments on: UBP: “Lead By Example. Cut Pay for Ministers”

By: missdboat

missdboat — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:31:10 +0000

we should have a BIG CONVERSATION to put BERMUDA under a proforming administration.

By: out2ruin

out2ruin — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:28:59 +0000

@terry – WRONG! it’s the black ppl fault for electing continuously without fail a govt based on their BLACKNESS and NOT ON THEIR SAVVY.

By: out2ruin

out2ruin — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:25:31 +0000

u can’t get any worse under this admin.Btw who made Bermuda the most successful country without any natural resource.Are u forgetin or r’u drinking the koolaid?Get your facts.The only govt before PLP is UBP.DOnt need a rocket scien.to tell!!!

By: out2ruin

out2ruin — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:21:03 +0000

Even a dumb,deaf and blind man can see the inability of the PLP to run this country.The only success they’ve acomplished especially brown is to fatten their greedy pockets and their selfishness have put this beautiful paradise in a crimeridden and ruin us economically.Vote them out or it gets worse.

By: MM

MM — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:15:55 +0000

black ppl in bda keeping Plp govt in power only becoz based on their color will be their DEMISE AND DOWNFALL!so knock yourself out

By: JimmyJ

JimmyJ — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:15:08 +0000

Why UBP? The PLP got us into this mess. Oh that’s right I forgot. It’s all the UBP’s fault just like Obama needs 52 years to clean up the mess from Bush. Get real. As a voter I think the officials in any country have 18 months to turn around the country or your OUT!!!!

By: JimmyJ

JimmyJ — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:07:54 +0000

You have no idea what you are talking about. “Bush style govt”, that is Republican style choose smaller government. PLP (democrats) have chosen “BIG govt.”, so everyone has a government job handed to them so they can keep their votes. The PLP got us into this mess not “Bush style govt.” Get a clue before you make statements like this.

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:21:58 +0000

Yes they should as it might validate their existance. In reality I don’t see any of our elected officials doing this and I’m sure they are sitting up parliment at the bar and ………………

LOLing at all of us

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:19:30 +0000

Why don’t you give us some positives of going independence under this present Government given our current debt and social economic status. Love to hear them I’ll get the popcorn you bring the ……………………………

LOLs

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:16:32 +0000

You must have a lot of time on your hands and must want independance reeeaaaal bad.

LOL

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:14:19 +0000

Who’s scared me or the person that thinks a frigate is comming to keeps us in check all 21 sq of us thanks fo making everyone here……………………………..

LOL it good for the soul after all. You sound just like thoses guys saying May 21st 2011 is the end of the world LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

By: navin johnson

navin johnson — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:16:49 +0000

Sure it does…what are they all doing anyway…couple of phone calls from you and they are back in session. bingo…Would be nice if they UBP lead by example instead of just talking about a pay cut and took one…just sayin…

By: Rockfish#2

Rockfish#2 — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:14:06 +0000

Apparently no one has blinked yet. Maybe the parties are locked in the proverbial smoke filled rooms!

By: Rockfish#2

Rockfish#2 — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:59:12 +0000

@ Justin,
Bravo! There are several charities that would be happy to receive the redirected funds. eg. Agape House.
Also,if the MP’s were actually concerned about the shootings, they would be happy to have a portion of their salaries allocated to buying the guns as proposed by Minister Perinchief. (I mentioned this in an earlier post before reading yours)

By: Rockfish#2

Rockfish#2 — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:25:38 +0000

The money saved can buy the guns as proposed by Minister Perinchief.

By: 32n64w

32n64w — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:23:53 +0000

No need. Just have the MP’s donate a material percentage of their salaries across a broad range of those local charitable organisations whose budgets were slashed because the Government no longer has the necessary funds available following four years of spiralling debt and unaccounted/unnecessary expenditures at the hands of the former Premier.

Also, if the Government wasn’t recalled when special duty exemptions were Gazetted by the former Premier so private limousines could be imported at ridiculously low duty rates of 10% (thereby saving a private citizen/business over $100k in import duties at the expense of taxpayers) why not do the same with MP & Senator salaries?

Its very interesting how Parliamentarians hide behind legislation or ‘policy’ when useful personally or for the Party but then wilfully chose to ignore same when its politically expedient or obfuscates the public interest (i.e. chastising the Auditor general for releasing a report to the taxpayers).

By: Citizen Banned

Citizen Banned — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:22:33 +0000

Not unexpected though. She seems to suggest that it would be too much trouble to recall Parliament for something so unimportant. I mean they weren’t elected to serve us were they?

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:21:30 +0000

Wow. Afraid not. Here’s the law: Governor’s Salary Act 1931

Emoluments of His Excellency the Governor
1 There shall be paid to His Excellency the Governor out of the Consolidated Fund such annual salary and entertainment allowance as shall be included in the annual estimates of expenditure approved by the Legislature.

and the icing on the cake:

Public Service Superannuation Act 1981 not to apply
6 The salaries payable under this Act shall not be subject to any deduction under the provisions of the Public Service Superannuation Act 1981

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:16:43 +0000

Your world is scary; so glad I don’t live there. Value for money has nothing to with constitutional status. Mark my words, when there’s a Governor-General at Langton Hill who is a Bermudian we’ll do to them exactly what we’re now doing to the MPs. Value for money = British accent. Sad.

By: Micheal Smith

Micheal Smith — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:07:50 +0000

Your sarcasm is almost as funny as your blind loyalty. Interested to see how this plays out. PLP or BIU who you think is right in this case. I will not be shooked if you do not answer.

By: Justin

Justin — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:40:46 +0000

What are you trying to say? As long as you can’t get a flight out of BDA during times when schools are out that MP’s deserve their $168,000 annual salary?

Also this is not just about mere symbolism as you put it. Have you ever heard the saying “he who feels it, knows it”? Maybe if more money was redirected from MP’s salaries to social programes we could actually prevent a murder from happening? hmmmmmmm…

By: Citizen Banned

Citizen Banned — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:04:55 +0000

Not really. That would look like PLP was elected to serve the people.

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:36:46 +0000

We question what we have in our power to change which is how the Government uses our money. The Governor and his expenses are tolerated because Bermuda has stated it does not want independence period. The only ones clamoring for independence right now are the government who just want more control and the safety of knowing that no one could come behind them and investigate the spending of the people’s money. As if they would direct a frigate here all they have to do is sanction us like Libya. Bermuda could be the new Haiti.

LOL

By: Just wondering

Just wondering — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:22:33 +0000

But isn’t the Governor paid through the British government?

By: LaVerne Furbert

LaVerne Furbert — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:06:27 +0000

I guess it makes sense to recall Parliament to make the changes.

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:48:17 +0000

Did you try to get a seat on any flight out of Bermuda for the week that school was out? Not one to be had. Was it all 36 MPs on those flights? I don’t think so……if all you want is symbolism then so be it. Cut their pay to 0 for all I care. It won’t fix a damn thing except to make you happy until the next shooting. Get a grip.

By: Skeptical

Skeptical — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:12:57 +0000

Funnnnyyyyy!!!!!!! Brilliant piece of writing!!!

By: Justin

Justin — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:20:57 +0000

Is this person for real? Let’s spin it another way then. Let’s give MP’s a 10% increase and spend another $200,000 per year. How’s that if $200,000 is so insignificant? I’m sure a charity like The Salvation Army could spend the $200,000 in savings a lot better than our politicians, and I would be happy knowing $200,000 came from the MP’s pocket and into their pocket.

It’s actually hits home when MP’s refuse to take a pay cut for the betterment of their Country. I thought that anyone who serves their Country should do so with their Country’s best interest at heart. It’s quite clear now, and actually apauling, that the only interest the MP’s have is to fatten up their peronal bank accounts! Especially when just about every other person in Bermuda has already made a sacrifice for the Country.

By: Citizen Banned

Citizen Banned — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:58:09 +0000

I agree it should be all MPs taking a cut PLP UBP whatever.

Does matter though it AIN’T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!

Moses will more likely appear at Flatts Bridge today at noon with the other five commandments.

By: Citizen Banned

Citizen Banned — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:36:49 +0000

We as a country should demand this yes. When Government brought in 4 Gitmo refugees and effectively gave them status only a few frustrated whites showed up to complain. Now perhaps we finally have something that will bring the Bruthas an Sistahs out. Its all good.

By: Hypocritical?

Hypocritical? — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:33:39 +0000

I notice that the UBP is only suggesting MINISTERS take a pay cut – why not all MP’s? It seems hypocritical to me for the UBP to be telling Ministers to lead by example, yet they are not offering to lead by example themselves.

I agree that the Ministers are overpaid the most but 10-15% cuts should be across the board for ALL MP’s. If an MP making $60k complains about $6-9k coming out of their pay (for their part-time job), they are an MP for all the wrong reasons.

By: pipsqueak

pipsqueak — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:26:21 +0000

It’s All about Hypocrisy and Greed, if the MP’s do take a pay cut, their Pension benefits will remain the same, so we will still paying for them until they die off!!

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:22:29 +0000

Don’t you get it? These are the same people who didn’t want their Premier to have the same car as the Governor. There is no way they will allow his money to be touched. Crabs in a barrel. Never a question about his value for money; never a question about how much it costs for these monthly royal visits we’re getting; no questions asked ever. You all dare touch his money and the nearest frigate (if they have any left) will change course for Somers Isles.

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:06:50 +0000

@sigh And the people of Bermuda can do that how? Oh right independence and then let the jokers in our government make their own rules please that’s just dumb you think we our in a bad way now just imagine the crap if these politicians had complete control. No thanks……

LOL

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:03:36 +0000

The PLP look bad all by them selves with no help needed……..

LOL

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:55:30 +0000

“You are stupid for not standing up with these citizens of this country who are holding this government accountable”

So where have you been for the last I don’t know five- six years or so???????? Just a thought as others have been jumping up and down about this for about that time. Guess it all matters who is doing the complaining. White collar workers in a lot of jobs have not had increases including cost of living increases for at lest 3-4 years now.

LOL

By: Not Suprised

Not Suprised — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:28:18 +0000

I have been saying pay cuts for ministers for quite some time now along with getting rid of GP cars, only to get blasted on here about they don’t make much. I infact did post a link to back up what i was saying. We as a country should demand this!!

By: sigh

sigh — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:27:34 +0000

If the PLP Ministers take a pay cut, should the Governor also take a pay cut as he gets paid more than any of our elected representatives?

By: Citizen Banned

Citizen Banned — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:24:41 +0000

I wonder if the MPs are actually talking about this? Or do they think Joe Bluecollar will back down?

By: jason

jason — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:48:20 +0000

you people are all brainwashed from these media outlets. Lets not forget the UBP will jump on any wagon that can make the PLP look bad !!!

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:09:53 +0000

Maybe we should just ask for our $800,000 back and call it even.

By: Graeme Outerbridge

Graeme Outerbridge — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:56:50 +0000

The BIG WORRY is the NATIONAL DEBT….who cares about symbols from a thimble of the spending PROBLEM?^^

By: He says she

He says she — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:45:51 +0000

I can understand the workers and there frustration – but demanding something that will NEVER happen is pointless. The MPs will no more take a pay cut than Jesus appear at City Hall this afternoon at 5pm.

By: Bermudian.

Bermudian. — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:13:09 +0000

They all go to same school.

By: Micheal Smith

Micheal Smith — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:15:52 +0000

Can anyone tell me what will happen if PLP lost the next election? UBP and BDA both have shown nothing as far as future ruling parties. So PLP will continue to run the country and I look forward to the downward spiral. PLP is leveling the playing field. Our total infrastructure is decaying. We are are so divided it is sad. The next party to step forward needs to lead us to independence. Future generations will feel about PLP how my parents felt about UBP “not got our best interest at heart”. The thought of my MP working for FREE works for me, but that is not reasonable. Are they there for the best interest of the country or are they there for the pay. If they are there for the country they would have no problem with a pay cut. THEY WILL NEVER LEAD BY EXAMPLE – they proved that with the suggested drug testing.

By: Rockfish#2

Rockfish#2 — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:27:41 +0000

@ neutral says
if-if if, you are engaging in the hypothetic. If a frog had wings it would not be hopping around on it’s ass!
This is a real situation, the principals are in place and we all know who they are, the problem is understood, and it must be solved pronto.
The leader of the country needs to sort this out!

By: X'aia

X'aia — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:16:17 +0000

Negotiation is over.We can’t afford this govt.We are paying with our toil and sweat and we are not getting our moneys worth.Life in Bermuda is unbearable with the PLP!

By: W.T.F.???

W.T.F.??? — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:16:04 +0000

Time to plp…dont let de door hit ya @$$ on de way out!

By: broBB

broBB — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:13:08 +0000

Agreed Get rid of them.They’ve ruin us with their ‘bush style govt’

By: You Have No Clue

You Have No Clue — Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:12:02 +0000

No what you need to understand is that while no one is denying the current employment state of this country, by no means is it justification for detrimentally affecting and putting the working class of this country in a more difficult position.

I bet you also think that those people who work in sweatshops and make 10 cents an hour should also be grateful because there are other people out there who would work in those conditions….

Grow some brain cells and realize that the working people are tired of witnessing inflated salaries, wasteful spending and no effort by this elected government to truly cut back and stimulate this economy. You are stupid for not standing up with these citizens of this country who are holding this government accountable and encourage their actions to speak louder then the rambling words they utter.

You don’t stimulate an economy by taking more money away from people……you stimulate a country by encouraging people to spend and if everything is rising and people are far less off than they were last year than them a lot more people will lose their jobs.It’s obvious that your thoughts a kinder garden so when you graduate to primary school re-write another post!