I think you miss my point re: theory of chance. Another time perhaps….

It’s not a “lifestyle choice” or a decision. Sure, it can be supressed, often at great personal pyscological stress and self loathing, but it’s a natural state of affairs.

And finally, I don’t see the need to justify homosexual behavior by trying to find a biological reason for it. Just be gay because you want to be.

LOL I see science as our way of explaining how God did it on our terms and understanding.

My “belief” is rooted in scientific fact. Yours, appears to be rooted in a mythical friend in the sky for which no proof exists and a book of dubious origin cobbled together by a bunch of ignorant goat herders 2000 years ago and roughly translated inot English aroudn 600 years ago. Note the translation into English was managed to continue to subvert the masses. No credible individual would assign any authenticity to the KJB.

LOL

Maslow’s theory , check it out. There are other groups that are being discriminated against here locally and need their basic needs met. Consider partnering with them, because changing the Human Rights Act in Bermuda will be an enourmouse undertaking. Some groups underrepresented are the mentally ill, physically handicapped, age.

The problem with that point of view is that you correctly label your beliefs as..beliefs. They are just that,. They are not rooted in any sort of fact. They are just unsubstantiated beliefs.

They claim to “know” because it’s written in a book of dubious origin.

Are you suggesting that man-made = unreliable/untrue? Now I don’t believe that all scripture is “man-made” and i don’t think you care But the problem here is yours and I’ll tell you why. Everything you use and rely on other than religion is……..MAN MADE!! The plane you travel on = MAN MADE. The Government = MAN MADE. The law?=MAN MADE Your Job? Money? Medicine? Technology? Psychological theories and treatments etc etc. We can go on and on. You put your life and faith in all these man made THINGS……….Now tell me again, WHY exactly is man-made all of a sudden such a problem for YOU? I’ll tell you what I think. Because you and people like you have no FAITH in humanity! (but you use everything else man makes which makes you a hypocrite). The conundrum is yours! Now, some of us believe that there are things that man did NOT make.
If you want people to respect your choice to be a non-believer in religion or whatever you define yourself as, you’re gonna have to present your arguments in a more thought out and respectful manner. Trying to label religion as ONLY “opiate of the masses” is unfair and bigoted. Show me ONE…..1 UNO (ONE) civilization that began without religion and I’ll show you NEANDERTHALLS my friend. You wont win this debate!

While each and every brain is wired differently, we all essentially respond to stimuli that give us physiological gratification on some primal level. So essentially, what tickles your fancy may not tickle mine. However, the “decision” to pursue a homosexual lifestyle is no more a biological compulsion than the “decisions” of two teenagers to have to have sex, or the “decision” to be attracted to animals rather than people, or the “decisions” of some adults to pursue relations with children. By that standard, you can justify almost any action that places one within their comfort zone, as a biological compulsion.

Unfortunately, the theories concerning the origins of homosexuality can never be effectively tested using the scientific method as it is impossible to have a truly controlled population experiment in essentially a “clean” environment without the existing environmental influences.

I personally have no problem with the homosexual lifestyle, but can’t support the theories of “it’s not my fault/decision” or “I was made this way.” In a need to justify the lifestyle we are looking for reasons to excuse it when none are needed.

LOL sandgrownan politically I see where you come from but on Religion we differ greatly. No I’m not the type of Christian that forces my beliefs on others as I have said Christians have a duty to inform do decide for others. So when you and others decide to bash a type of Christian do so specifically and not include those who ARE Christian. not caps on are to emphasize the word no shooting implied.

Saint Augustine
Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz
Emanuel Swedenborg
Leonardo Da Vinci
John Stuart Mill
Blaise Pascal
Galileo Galilei
Nicholas Copernicus
Sir Francis Bacon
Johannes Kepler
Rene Descartes
Isaac Newton
Robert Boyle
Michael Faraday
Gregor Mendel
William Thomson Kelvin
Max Planck
Albert Einstein
Charles Babbage

How is it that all of these people who are inferior to you in each and every way have done so much more for civilization than you or any of your relatives and offspring could ever hope to?

Go out and do something with your life, and try to remember that WE are the only things hindering our advancement as a civilization instead of continually expressing contempt founded on a childhood of unanswered prayers to an imaginary man in the sky.

Mr. Smith is passionate about his beliefs. I applaud that. I don’t agree with some of them, and I am inspired by other actions(and words) of his. I always admire courage, and it took courage and humility to apologize. I was saddened that he used his apology to reiterate some of his beliefs about same sex oriented individuals.

It is important to remember, whatever one’s belief system, that ALL human beings should have the right to pursue basic necessities – food, water, shelter, employment – without fear of discrimination.

Whatever the merits of Ms. Assan’s experience might be, the ‘Human’ Rights Act in its present form does not provide any legal recourse for either party.

Stalin used the Orthodox Russian Church to control, as Hitler and Mussolini used the Catholic Chuch. North Korea is effectively a one religion state, the cult or religion of the Great Leader, the Dear Leader’s father. Sounds familiar?

Secularism means something different from what you think it means.

Jesus was right. Religion and man made philosophies poison people and enslave minds. He came to bring light and freedom from sin and bring us back to the one true God.