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	<title>Comments on: Ministers/MPs On Pay Cuts, OBA Reply</title>
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		<title>By: Mad Dawg</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-168463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mad Dawg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the rest of us, who have to actually pay the tax bills, have no idea what was said or not said.  VFM, the final benefit will not be reduced by a penny.  The reduction in penions contributions is just a postponement of the payment.  

I don&#039;t know why you don&#039;t just admit it.  It&#039;s obvious you&#039;re wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the rest of us, who have to actually pay the tax bills, have no idea what was said or not said.  VFM, the final benefit will not be reduced by a penny.  The reduction in penions contributions is just a postponement of the payment.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you don&#8217;t just admit it.  It&#8217;s obvious you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Hate to Burst Your Bubble</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-167935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hate to Burst Your Bubble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently (January 2012) was on a flight to Miami and Madame Premier, Minister Furbert and about 4-5 other Government officials were all in first/Business class. So if you think it&#039;s been cut out...you are SOL or stuck on stupid...whichever one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently (January 2012) was on a flight to Miami and Madame Premier, Minister Furbert and about 4-5 other Government officials were all in first/Business class. So if you think it&#8217;s been cut out&#8230;you are SOL or stuck on stupid&#8230;whichever one.</p>
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		<title>By: Accountant</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-167470</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Accountant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incorrect. Most defined benefit plans factor in both salary amounts AND duration of employment. You can google this and see for yourself. The deal is they get one less year of service, so it does impact their payouts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incorrect. Most defined benefit plans factor in both salary amounts AND duration of employment. You can google this and see for yourself. The deal is they get one less year of service, so it does impact their payouts.</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paula leading from behind again.  Anyway... Burgess is the real power in the Cabinet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paula leading from behind again.  Anyway&#8230; Burgess is the real power in the Cabinet.</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s getting done...??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s getting done&#8230;??</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The  OBA really did let us down.  They&#039;ve gotta do better than that.  And more urgently too.  And to think that I thought that the OBA was on the ball.  Not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  OBA really did let us down.  They&#8217;ve gotta do better than that.  And more urgently too.  And to think that I thought that the OBA was on the ball.  Not.</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta agree with you, Gozney is essentially useless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta agree with you, Gozney is essentially useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Skink Too</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rocky Skink Too]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People are confusing what MP&#039;s take home pay will be with this proposal(1.5% more than before) and the COST to the Govt. to pay them - 11.25% (5% + 6.25%) less because no pension contribution will be made by either the EMPLOYER 6.25% or the EMPLOYEE 6.25%. So if an employee is does not have to pay their 6.25% Pension contribution, but receives a 5% pay cut, net salary increases approx. 1.25% and the Govt. saves 11.25% (5% + 6.25%) by not paying employer portion of Pension and reducing employee net pay by 5%. That&#039;s how I see it...but I could be completely wrong cuz I just a country bye]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are confusing what MP&#8217;s take home pay will be with this proposal(1.5% more than before) and the COST to the Govt. to pay them &#8211; 11.25% (5% + 6.25%) less because no pension contribution will be made by either the EMPLOYER 6.25% or the EMPLOYEE 6.25%. So if an employee is does not have to pay their 6.25% Pension contribution, but receives a 5% pay cut, net salary increases approx. 1.25% and the Govt. saves 11.25% (5% + 6.25%) by not paying employer portion of Pension and reducing employee net pay by 5%. That&#8217;s how I see it&#8230;but I could be completely wrong cuz I just a country bye</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Skink Too</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rocky Skink Too]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like the PLP took a bipartisan approach when there were opposition]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the PLP took a bipartisan approach when there were opposition</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Skink Too</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rocky Skink Too]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you really read the Premiers&#039;s letter! In my humble opinion it shows just how poor a leader she really is. It does not clearly indicate anything other than confusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you really read the Premiers&#8217;s letter! In my humble opinion it shows just how poor a leader she really is. It does not clearly indicate anything other than confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: The nitty gritty</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The nitty gritty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is also brilliant that the pension fund is hundreds of millions UNDERFUNDED
and because the government drove us 1.3 billion dollars into debt with little hope
of keeping up with the interest much less principal, we are now finding the need 
for the 1st bandaid to be applied via all that %cut nonsense. Drink the kool-aid
drink da kool aid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also brilliant that the pension fund is hundreds of millions UNDERFUNDED<br />
and because the government drove us 1.3 billion dollars into debt with little hope<br />
of keeping up with the interest much less principal, we are now finding the need<br />
for the 1st bandaid to be applied via all that %cut nonsense. Drink the kool-aid<br />
drink da kool aid.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaking the Head</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaking the Head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Makai, Let me explain further. These are Defined Benefit Plans. Simply, the benefits are paid regardless of the amount of money in the Fund. This is why they are almost non available anywhere in the world in the Private Sector. They are too expensive and companies can&#039;t afford them. Governments can afford to continue them, at the moment, because they can fund from taxes. With the reduction in the tax base and increase in Government base, it is highly unlikely that Bermuda&#039;s Plan can survive more than about 10 years at best. For an MP or Government worker, it makes no difference if they receive, and then pay back the contribution as they will, with the caveat above, still receive their benefits. If this was a Defined Contribution Plan, then I would agree with you, but it is still a dangerous and wrong thing to stop the contributions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makai, Let me explain further. These are Defined Benefit Plans. Simply, the benefits are paid regardless of the amount of money in the Fund. This is why they are almost non available anywhere in the world in the Private Sector. They are too expensive and companies can&#8217;t afford them. Governments can afford to continue them, at the moment, because they can fund from taxes. With the reduction in the tax base and increase in Government base, it is highly unlikely that Bermuda&#8217;s Plan can survive more than about 10 years at best. For an MP or Government worker, it makes no difference if they receive, and then pay back the contribution as they will, with the caveat above, still receive their benefits. If this was a Defined Contribution Plan, then I would agree with you, but it is still a dangerous and wrong thing to stop the contributions.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaking the Head</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaking the Head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ll have to disagree on that one. It is not a pay cut, except in PLP speak. By the way will the compulsory retirement age be amended so people can work longer to make up for the shortfall in their pensions thanks to the PLP not being able to fully fund it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll have to disagree on that one. It is not a pay cut, except in PLP speak. By the way will the compulsory retirement age be amended so people can work longer to make up for the shortfall in their pensions thanks to the PLP not being able to fully fund it?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaking the Head</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaking the Head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pension &quot;holiday&quot; is merely a continuation of failed PLP good initiatives (ignoring things such as term limits).
Free Day care for all - rolled back to being means tested
Free Bermuda College - rolled back to having to pay
Free bus and ferry - rolled back to only schoolchildren
Free car licences for all seniors - about to be rolled back due to abuse
Implemetation of compulsory Pensions - Intended to be for retirement, but now allowed to take money out, and now the Government has no funds to pay into their own Fund.
Soon it will be the turn of the Government Overemployment Program to be looked at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pension &#8220;holiday&#8221; is merely a continuation of failed PLP good initiatives (ignoring things such as term limits).<br />
Free Day care for all &#8211; rolled back to being means tested<br />
Free Bermuda College &#8211; rolled back to having to pay<br />
Free bus and ferry &#8211; rolled back to only schoolchildren<br />
Free car licences for all seniors &#8211; about to be rolled back due to abuse<br />
Implemetation of compulsory Pensions &#8211; Intended to be for retirement, but now allowed to take money out, and now the Government has no funds to pay into their own Fund.<br />
Soon it will be the turn of the Government Overemployment Program to be looked at.</p>
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		<title>By: Cancer</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cancer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@vote for me - how Cud This be brilliant ?  You think a pay cut where MPs ends up getting more money is brilliant? Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s still looks bad? The PLP need to leaves politics alone and you better check yourself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vote for me &#8211; how Cud This be brilliant ?  You think a pay cut where MPs ends up getting more money is brilliant? Don&#8217;t you think that&#8217;s still looks bad? The PLP need to leaves politics alone and you better check yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Franklin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Accountant, I may be mistaken but your posts read like you think the ministers are on a DC plan (don&#039;t pay in now, don&#039;t get money later)... they are not, they are on a DB plan so whatever contributions they do or do not make are theoretically irrelevant since their pension will be calculated by a formula based on their average earnings and years of service.  There are different ways of shaping that formula, but employee contributions is not one of the variables]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accountant, I may be mistaken but your posts read like you think the ministers are on a DC plan (don&#8217;t pay in now, don&#8217;t get money later)&#8230; they are not, they are on a DB plan so whatever contributions they do or do not make are theoretically irrelevant since their pension will be calculated by a formula based on their average earnings and years of service.  There are different ways of shaping that formula, but employee contributions is not one of the variables</p>
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		<title>By: Rockfish#2</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-166052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rockfish#2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Jame,
Jennifer was demoted?
Really? By whom?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jame,<br />
Jennifer was demoted?<br />
Really? By whom?</p>
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		<title>By: Vote for Me</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vote for Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Rick Rock

Secret meetings??  The meetings were open meetings for union members.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rick Rock</p>
<p>Secret meetings??  The meetings were open meetings for union members.</p>
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		<title>By: Vote for Me</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vote for Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Ride
You offer a good technical analysis except for one point.

If the employee salary is reduced from $100 to $92, there will be a reduced payroll tax liability because the payroll tax will be based on the $92 and not the origianl $100.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ride<br />
You offer a good technical analysis except for one point.</p>
<p>If the employee salary is reduced from $100 to $92, there will be a reduced payroll tax liability because the payroll tax will be based on the $92 and not the origianl $100.</p>
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		<title>By: Vote for Me</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vote for Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All,
this has been a great &#039;financial&#039; discussion today.  It seem we all finally rached the point of agreement.  The Parliamenatarians get a net reduction in take home pay but Public Officers are not impacted by a net pay deduction.

OBA Leader &#039;takes the cake&#039; for all of us.  He admits that the OBA initiated the idea of a pay cut but they did not think of using the pensions as an means to do so - congrats Premier Cox - I think we will all agree in time that your proposal is simply brilliant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,<br />
this has been a great &#8216;financial&#8217; discussion today.  It seem we all finally rached the point of agreement.  The Parliamenatarians get a net reduction in take home pay but Public Officers are not impacted by a net pay deduction.</p>
<p>OBA Leader &#8216;takes the cake&#8217; for all of us.  He admits that the OBA initiated the idea of a pay cut but they did not think of using the pensions as an means to do so &#8211; congrats Premier Cox &#8211; I think we will all agree in time that your proposal is simply brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Makai Dickerson</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Makai Dickerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Bewildered I&#039;m not sure your understanding,the total pay cut is 17.5%, its just a 5% loss in take home pay. Since the other 12.5% would normally be their pension contribution(which will be frozen) it would not be included in their take home pay anyway, therefore is not a loss in Net Pay(take home pay). It is however still being deducted therefore a pay cut.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bewildered I&#8217;m not sure your understanding,the total pay cut is 17.5%, its just a 5% loss in take home pay. Since the other 12.5% would normally be their pension contribution(which will be frozen) it would not be included in their take home pay anyway, therefore is not a loss in Net Pay(take home pay). It is however still being deducted therefore a pay cut.</p>
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		<title>By: @Work</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suggestion for Bernews/RG webmasters:</p>
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		<title>By: @Work</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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Please check out of other boards work. An email should be sent out when a reply is posted. If you can&#039;t do that, why ask for email addresses?]]></description>
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<p>Please check out of other boards work. An email should be sent out when a reply is posted. If you can&#8217;t do that, why ask for email addresses?</p>
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		<title>By: @Work</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does my question have to do with the OBA or Tea Party? Unless the Union is a registered political party, bipartisan and consensus are not required. It&#039;s so hard to debate a topic when so many people go off topic. 
@Itsaboutallofus: Party politics is all about disagreeing with everything the government does. That&#039;s the oppositions role. 

Maybe people need to brush up party politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does my question have to do with the OBA or Tea Party? Unless the Union is a registered political party, bipartisan and consensus are not required. It&#8217;s so hard to debate a topic when so many people go off topic.<br />
@Itsaboutallofus: Party politics is all about disagreeing with everything the government does. That&#8217;s the oppositions role. </p>
<p>Maybe people need to brush up party politics.</p>
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		<title>By: The Voice of the People</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165688</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Voice of the People]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well it is about time someone made the suggestion to take a pay cut.
i understand that Paula is trying to save jobs and all but she needs to lead from the front and take the cut and all her staff and her opposition and LIKE IT. OTHERWISE the people of trhe country will vote them out and start fresh or just pack up shop and leave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it is about time someone made the suggestion to take a pay cut.<br />
i understand that Paula is trying to save jobs and all but she needs to lead from the front and take the cut and all her staff and her opposition and LIKE IT. OTHERWISE the people of trhe country will vote them out and start fresh or just pack up shop and leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Rock</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Rock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So we have to trust Union reps who have been to secret meetings with PLP Ministers?  

Excuse me while I puke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we have to trust Union reps who have been to secret meetings with PLP Ministers?  </p>
<p>Excuse me while I puke.</p>
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		<title>By: get real.</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[get real.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mps pay 12.5% and it is matched by government. so a toral of 25% of their sallary is paid into the fund every year. 

so they will take a 12.5% gross wage reduction to be off set by them not contributing into the pension funds. 
When they retire they will lose a year of service. if they worked 12 years instead of thier pension being calculaed at 12 years thier pension will be calculated at 11 years of service. 

On to of this they are willing to take a nother 5% pay cut so their take home pay will be approx %5 less then what they are taking home now. un like what they are asking govt employees. Employees are only being asked to take an 8% to be off set by their pension contribution. Employess will also lose a year of service when they retire so instear of it being calculated at say 25 years it will be calculated at 24 years if they have put in 25 years of service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mps pay 12.5% and it is matched by government. so a toral of 25% of their sallary is paid into the fund every year. </p>
<p>so they will take a 12.5% gross wage reduction to be off set by them not contributing into the pension funds.<br />
When they retire they will lose a year of service. if they worked 12 years instead of thier pension being calculaed at 12 years thier pension will be calculated at 11 years of service. </p>
<p>On to of this they are willing to take a nother 5% pay cut so their take home pay will be approx %5 less then what they are taking home now. un like what they are asking govt employees. Employees are only being asked to take an 8% to be off set by their pension contribution. Employess will also lose a year of service when they retire so instear of it being calculated at say 25 years it will be calculated at 24 years if they have put in 25 years of service.</p>
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		<title>By: rocky skink 2</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rocky skink 2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have finally exposed the truth]]></description>
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		<title>By: Rick Rock</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165669</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Rock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where do you get the idea there will be an impact on benefits?  There is nothing in any announcements about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you get the idea there will be an impact on benefits?  There is nothing in any announcements about it.</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this thread (a tedious exercise), all I can say is: It&#039;s a can of worms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this thread (a tedious exercise), all I can say is: It&#8217;s a can of worms.</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bermuda is NORMAL?  Not!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bermuda is NORMAL?  Not!</p>
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		<title>By: Not Surprised</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Surprised]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hahahaah Semantics....next time i will take a picture and post it. If they are not paying for it then we are :-) and i don&#039;t think the &quot;airline&quot; cares about who they are enough to give them an upgrade...So if they are being upgraded, It&#039;s the check in desk employees and NOT the airline doing so. Just sayin....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaah Semantics&#8230;.next time i will take a picture and post it. If they are not paying for it then we are <img src='https://cloudfront.bernews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  and i don&#8217;t think the &#8220;airline&#8221; cares about who they are enough to give them an upgrade&#8230;So if they are being upgraded, It&#8217;s the check in desk employees and NOT the airline doing so. Just sayin&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Makai Dickerson</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Makai Dickerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ LOL Original Your post shows that you clearly do not understand what is happening, It is not the PLP blogers who are taking a beat down as all many of us posting are doing is simply explaining what is happening. If people do not feel the pay cut is sufficient that&#039;s their opinion but the fact remains that, Ministers, MP&#039;s and Senators have agreed to the same deal offered to the Civil servants which is, to accept a pay cut equal to the amount deducted for their pension contribution in exchange for a 1 freeze on their pension contribution. 8% Civil Servants 12.5% Ministers, Mp&#039;s and Senators.

In addition the Ministers MP&#039;s and Senators have agreed to an additional 5% cut in pay. 

12.5% will still be taken out of Ministers, MP&#039;s and Senators pay, just not for pension contribution. 12.5% + 5% = 17.5% total cut in overall pay. 5% total cut in take home pay.

This is the fact of the matter not opinion or spin.
Do you get it now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ LOL Original Your post shows that you clearly do not understand what is happening, It is not the PLP blogers who are taking a beat down as all many of us posting are doing is simply explaining what is happening. If people do not feel the pay cut is sufficient that&#8217;s their opinion but the fact remains that, Ministers, MP&#8217;s and Senators have agreed to the same deal offered to the Civil servants which is, to accept a pay cut equal to the amount deducted for their pension contribution in exchange for a 1 freeze on their pension contribution. 8% Civil Servants 12.5% Ministers, Mp&#8217;s and Senators.</p>
<p>In addition the Ministers MP&#8217;s and Senators have agreed to an additional 5% cut in pay. </p>
<p>12.5% will still be taken out of Ministers, MP&#8217;s and Senators pay, just not for pension contribution. 12.5% + 5% = 17.5% total cut in overall pay. 5% total cut in take home pay.</p>
<p>This is the fact of the matter not opinion or spin.<br />
Do you get it now?</p>
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		<title>By: Not Surprised</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Surprised]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AGREED! have seen it with my own two eyes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGREED! have seen it with my own two eyes!</p>
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		<title>By: Not Surprised</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Surprised]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please read this online web page ( i have the link after this sentence, You will see the the premier and her cabinet are paid well over 56k a year....

http://bermuda-online.org/bdagovt.htm

So this is what it says on the premier:

&quot;Highest paid Cabinet member, on an annual salary of $224,092 in 2011/2012. She has use of a Bermuda Government car, GP1, a BMW 750Li. She also gets health insurance, a pension, a parking space at Sessions House and a credit card. 

Derrick Burgess:
&quot;One of the highest paid Cabinet members, on an annual salary of $184,414 in 2011.&quot; plus perk of course.

That just an example of what information there is and accessable.....and What we can really read up on instead of just listening to what we are fed.

I don&#039;t know about you , but the average Bermudian Makes nothing near that. And you bet your boots they should Be taking a huge pay cut!!! We have to sacrifice so do they. CUT UP the Credit cards, get rid of the cars and take a pay cut. I&#039;ve said it before and will continue to say it....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read this online web page ( i have the link after this sentence, You will see the the premier and her cabinet are paid well over 56k a year&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://bermuda-online.org/bdagovt.htm" rel="nofollow">http://bermuda-online.org/bdagovt.htm</a></p>
<p>So this is what it says on the premier:</p>
<p>&#8220;Highest paid Cabinet member, on an annual salary of $224,092 in 2011/2012. She has use of a Bermuda Government car, GP1, a BMW 750Li. She also gets health insurance, a pension, a parking space at Sessions House and a credit card. </p>
<p>Derrick Burgess:<br />
&#8220;One of the highest paid Cabinet members, on an annual salary of $184,414 in 2011.&#8221; plus perk of course.</p>
<p>That just an example of what information there is and accessable&#8230;..and What we can really read up on instead of just listening to what we are fed.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you , but the average Bermudian Makes nothing near that. And you bet your boots they should Be taking a huge pay cut!!! We have to sacrifice so do they. CUT UP the Credit cards, get rid of the cars and take a pay cut. I&#8217;ve said it before and will continue to say it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Argosy</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165594</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Argosy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree....

It&#039;s so (deliberately deceptive??) loosely worded that we will have to wait for the real end-game to be forceably prised out &quot;...into the sunshine....&quot;!!

One side has it right.  IMHO, either way, it&#039;s a crock....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so (deliberately deceptive??) loosely worded that we will have to wait for the real end-game to be forceably prised out &#8220;&#8230;into the sunshine&#8230;.&#8221;!!</p>
<p>One side has it right.  IMHO, either way, it&#8217;s a crock&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bewildered</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bewildered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for clarifying that the Pay Cut for MPs is 5%, not 17.5%, as shown under &quot;Total loss in net pay&quot; above. At least you show some honesty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying that the Pay Cut for MPs is 5%, not 17.5%, as shown under &#8220;Total loss in net pay&#8221; above. At least you show some honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Local Shopper</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165592</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Local Shopper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not show us some actual figures, not talking about percentages.  How it affects the NET income figure....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not show us some actual figures, not talking about percentages.  How it affects the NET income figure&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;An intelligent politician knows when it is best to put some cards on the table, and hold others back ...&quot;  I&#039;ll remember that phrase specialgirl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An intelligent politician knows when it is best to put some cards on the table, and hold others back &#8230;&#8221;  I&#8217;ll remember that phrase specialgirl.</p>
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		<title>By: Pastor Syl</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pastor Syl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That should be &quot;a 17.5% pay cut, as if it is in addition to the 12.5% pension cut. It is a 5% pay cut plus a 12.5% pension finagle which together add up to 17.5%.&quot;
Sorry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be &#8220;a 17.5% pay cut, as if it is in addition to the 12.5% pension cut. It is a 5% pay cut plus a 12.5% pension finagle which together add up to 17.5%.&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165582</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Civil servants must show up for work and earn their salaries...&quot; but not necessarily actually work.  Is that what you are saying?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Civil servants must show up for work and earn their salaries&#8230;&#8221; but not necessarily actually work.  Is that what you are saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Pastor Syl</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165581</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pastor Syl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Vote for Me: you keep saying a 17&gt;5% pay cut, as if it is on top of the 12.5 pension cut. It is a 5% pay cut and the Premier is DEFINITELY asking more from the public than she is asking from her parliamentarians.

Given the idea of pay cuts for parliamentarians was first suggested last February - a whole year ago by Jeanne Atherden (see Bernews link above)- you can hardly say she is leading from the front. And that&#039;s a whole year&#039;s revenue lost in the bargain, admittedly a drop in the bucket compared to the billion or so we are in debt, but at least we would have been able to make a couple of payments without borrowing from Peter to pay Paul, as we are doing now. Her proposal goes even further - she wants to borrow from Peter&#039;s unborn children. That&#039;s us, my kids and grandkids and yours. Don&#039;t you care? or is it &quot;my party right or wrong.&quot; God help us all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Vote for Me: you keep saying a 17&gt;5% pay cut, as if it is on top of the 12.5 pension cut. It is a 5% pay cut and the Premier is DEFINITELY asking more from the public than she is asking from her parliamentarians.</p>
<p>Given the idea of pay cuts for parliamentarians was first suggested last February &#8211; a whole year ago by Jeanne Atherden (see Bernews link above)- you can hardly say she is leading from the front. And that&#8217;s a whole year&#8217;s revenue lost in the bargain, admittedly a drop in the bucket compared to the billion or so we are in debt, but at least we would have been able to make a couple of payments without borrowing from Peter to pay Paul, as we are doing now. Her proposal goes even further &#8211; she wants to borrow from Peter&#8217;s unborn children. That&#8217;s us, my kids and grandkids and yours. Don&#8217;t you care? or is it &#8220;my party right or wrong.&#8221; God help us all!</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Bermuda DOES HAVE probably the highest paid politicians, in relation to population (small town), in the whole blinkin&#039; world!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Bermuda DOES HAVE probably the highest paid politicians, in relation to population (small town), in the whole blinkin&#8217; world!!</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No they won&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe Ministers and MPs have &#039;fixed&#039; pension benefits.  So the only loser is the taxpayer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Ministers and MPs have &#8216;fixed&#8217; pension benefits.  So the only loser is the taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Accountant</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Accountant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Understood - reading it again I can see that interpretation. If that is the case, then yes I agree and it is a 17.5% cut. 

Current scenario
Gross pay $100
Pension cont]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood &#8211; reading it again I can see that interpretation. If that is the case, then yes I agree and it is a 17.5% cut. </p>
<p>Current scenario<br />
Gross pay $100<br />
Pension cont</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Real classy, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real classy, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: star man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[star man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well... we&#039;ve sorta been having difficulty over the years obtaining truthful numbers from the PLP/BIU Gov&#039;t. You know, like visitor bed nights and such. The PLP/BIU Party is not exactly transparent; you must have noticed that. So, please tell us, VoR, where might we find all those Gov&#039;t credit card charges?  Bet they total hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe millions!  ALL unaccounted for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; we&#8217;ve sorta been having difficulty over the years obtaining truthful numbers from the PLP/BIU Gov&#8217;t. You know, like visitor bed nights and such. The PLP/BIU Party is not exactly transparent; you must have noticed that. So, please tell us, VoR, where might we find all those Gov&#8217;t credit card charges?  Bet they total hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe millions!  ALL unaccounted for.</p>
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		<title>By: media</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[media]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig Cannonier&#039;s strength, which is having no political experience is also his weakness, having no political experience. On the other hand Paula Cox has loads of political experience, a strength but also a weakness, as she is constantly haunted by actions she had taken in the past. There is so much more ammunition against Paula Cox right now that I actually think Craig Cannonier has an advantage of being a fresh face in politics, untarnished by previous events. Paula Cox for all her intelligence has not guided Bermuda well. She is obviously a nice person, if somewhat beguiling - but not a good Leader. We shouldn&#039;t get the two mixed up. Yes, Paula Cox would walk all over Craig Cannonier in a debate, with her clever debating skills, but does that mean she is the best person to be Premier. Based on her record, I think not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig Cannonier&#8217;s strength, which is having no political experience is also his weakness, having no political experience. On the other hand Paula Cox has loads of political experience, a strength but also a weakness, as she is constantly haunted by actions she had taken in the past. There is so much more ammunition against Paula Cox right now that I actually think Craig Cannonier has an advantage of being a fresh face in politics, untarnished by previous events. Paula Cox for all her intelligence has not guided Bermuda well. She is obviously a nice person, if somewhat beguiling &#8211; but not a good Leader. We shouldn&#8217;t get the two mixed up. Yes, Paula Cox would walk all over Craig Cannonier in a debate, with her clever debating skills, but does that mean she is the best person to be Premier. Based on her record, I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Accountant</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/02/5-pay-cut-ministersgov-mps-agree/#comment-165551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Accountant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Appreciate the conversation! Hopefully there will be some clarification and then we can determine the exact impact and which understanding is correct; with any luck it will be yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate the conversation! Hopefully there will be some clarification and then we can determine the exact impact and which understanding is correct; with any luck it will be yours.</p>
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