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		<title>By: monique</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-231335</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 05:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[worst phone company ever di company is so f%$k up i cant wait for lime to kick dem ass, can you imagin calling custumer care for over an hour and cant get a responce so f%$king lame cant wait to get a lime phone...........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>worst phone company ever di company is so f%$k up i cant wait for lime to kick dem ass, can you imagin calling custumer care for over an hour and cant get a responce so f%$king lame cant wait to get a lime phone&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: just because</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-225157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[just because]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thats because he know his case is lost and needs the public vote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats because he know his case is lost and needs the public vote.</p>
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		<title>By: A Visitors Perspective</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Visitors Perspective]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ACU-

It sounds like your argument consists of three parts:  First, that the law is clear  with regard to (and at odds with) Digicel&#039;s request; second, staff and Acting Director Wells at the Department of Telecommunications overlooked the clarity of the law when issuing approval; and third, since it is clearly an error, Government can simply withdraw its approval letter whenever it wishes.

As to first point, if the law were so unambiguous, then I&#039;d have to guess that none of this would have happened in the first place.  If the speed limit is clearly posted at 50 km/hr, then a request to drive at 70 km/hr will be turned down.  But if the rule is just &quot;Caution- Slow&quot;, then 5, 10 and even 20 km/hr might be acceptable.  I find it hard to believe that the law is so clear, yet the Department of Telecommunications ignored that clarity and granted approval.

Second, the application process has, according to Digicell, been going on for at least July 2011, and has involved many people from the Department of Telecommunications, as well as the Solicitor General, the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Environment, Planning and Infrastructure Strategy and the Minister of Finance.  It appears that very specific questions relating to their intent to offer ILD services have been raised by Digicel over the course of this process, beginning with the 4 July 2011 letter.  The idea that so many people could blindly ignore the clarity of the law over so long a review period doesn&#039;t seem possible, particularly when the specific issue was called to their attention at a number of points in the process.

Finally, almost eight months have passed since the approval letter of 20 October 2011.  If a mistake were made, or the &quot;sleepers overlooked Digicel&#039;s scheme&quot;, the time to correct that would be much closer to the issuance date of the letter than now.  Since there has been no change in the law between then and now, and Digicel has complied with the terms of the approval letter, it has every right to rely on the letter, and so make investments and other plans based on this clear approval.  If not, then no business would make an investment in Bermuda, because the risk of an arbitrary reversal of a prior approval at any time would always hang over the head of investors.

I&#039;m not of counsel; I don&#039;t know if you are.  But my guess is that we are each making the arguments that will be made in Court, and it will be up to the Court to reach a fair decision.  I believe that Digicel&#039;s application is actually favorable to consumers, and so hope that the Court will find in their favor.

I also believe that the public bickering and grandstanding by Digicel, Mr. Simons, Minister Bean and others is highly inappropriate; it would have been far better for this to have been worked out behind closed doors than to have been splayed across the media.  To that extent, I believe that no one has perfectly clean hands in this matter.

AVP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACU-</p>
<p>It sounds like your argument consists of three parts:  First, that the law is clear  with regard to (and at odds with) Digicel&#8217;s request; second, staff and Acting Director Wells at the Department of Telecommunications overlooked the clarity of the law when issuing approval; and third, since it is clearly an error, Government can simply withdraw its approval letter whenever it wishes.</p>
<p>As to first point, if the law were so unambiguous, then I&#8217;d have to guess that none of this would have happened in the first place.  If the speed limit is clearly posted at 50 km/hr, then a request to drive at 70 km/hr will be turned down.  But if the rule is just &#8220;Caution- Slow&#8221;, then 5, 10 and even 20 km/hr might be acceptable.  I find it hard to believe that the law is so clear, yet the Department of Telecommunications ignored that clarity and granted approval.</p>
<p>Second, the application process has, according to Digicell, been going on for at least July 2011, and has involved many people from the Department of Telecommunications, as well as the Solicitor General, the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Environment, Planning and Infrastructure Strategy and the Minister of Finance.  It appears that very specific questions relating to their intent to offer ILD services have been raised by Digicel over the course of this process, beginning with the 4 July 2011 letter.  The idea that so many people could blindly ignore the clarity of the law over so long a review period doesn&#8217;t seem possible, particularly when the specific issue was called to their attention at a number of points in the process.</p>
<p>Finally, almost eight months have passed since the approval letter of 20 October 2011.  If a mistake were made, or the &#8220;sleepers overlooked Digicel&#8217;s scheme&#8221;, the time to correct that would be much closer to the issuance date of the letter than now.  Since there has been no change in the law between then and now, and Digicel has complied with the terms of the approval letter, it has every right to rely on the letter, and so make investments and other plans based on this clear approval.  If not, then no business would make an investment in Bermuda, because the risk of an arbitrary reversal of a prior approval at any time would always hang over the head of investors.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not of counsel; I don&#8217;t know if you are.  But my guess is that we are each making the arguments that will be made in Court, and it will be up to the Court to reach a fair decision.  I believe that Digicel&#8217;s application is actually favorable to consumers, and so hope that the Court will find in their favor.</p>
<p>I also believe that the public bickering and grandstanding by Digicel, Mr. Simons, Minister Bean and others is highly inappropriate; it would have been far better for this to have been worked out behind closed doors than to have been splayed across the media.  To that extent, I believe that no one has perfectly clean hands in this matter.</p>
<p>AVP</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legal Eagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Telecommunication costs in BDA are currently among the most expensive in the world! Only completion will bring those costs down!!! It is understandable that a profit motive has Digicel&#039;s competitors objecting, however one must ask just whoever or whatever motive is behind the Government to block competition and thereby reduce
costs-- in the best interest of the BDN PEOPLE and businesses??? Or has this Government ignored the best interest of the people for so long now, they don&#039;t even consider it any more??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telecommunication costs in BDA are currently among the most expensive in the world! Only completion will bring those costs down!!! It is understandable that a profit motive has Digicel&#8217;s competitors objecting, however one must ask just whoever or whatever motive is behind the Government to block competition and thereby reduce<br />
costs&#8211; in the best interest of the BDN PEOPLE and businesses??? Or has this Government ignored the best interest of the people for so long now, they don&#8217;t even consider it any more??</p>
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		<title>By: allcloggedup</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[allcloggedup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Digicel don&#039;t have clean hands, and the sleepers are to be held accountable including Binns.  so you think it&#039;s ok to break the law because the sleepers overlooked Digicel&#039;s scheme? I think Digicel knew they were asking DOT is it okay to ignore the rules, and DOT didn&#039;t pick up on it.  That is clearly the case.  Once the sleepers realized their error then they have every right to review and withdraw their &#039;approval&#039; letter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digicel don&#8217;t have clean hands, and the sleepers are to be held accountable including Binns.  so you think it&#8217;s ok to break the law because the sleepers overlooked Digicel&#8217;s scheme? I think Digicel knew they were asking DOT is it okay to ignore the rules, and DOT didn&#8217;t pick up on it.  That is clearly the case.  Once the sleepers realized their error then they have every right to review and withdraw their &#8216;approval&#8217; letter.</p>
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		<title>By: LMAWTFO</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223562</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LMAWTFO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spot on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: A Visitors Perspective</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Visitors Perspective]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ACU-

The letter from Michael Wells, Acting Director of Telecommunication to Digicel responds to the question, &quot;Is it acceptable to offer all three services of ISP/Mobile and ILD (utilizing VOIP) to customers ... using our Mobile License and Transact License&quot; by stating &quot;Yes, if you provide an Interconnection Agreement between yourself and Transact...&quot; and goes on to remind Digicel that it &quot;can offer ILD over VOIP only.&quot;

I don&#039;t see anything that states that Digicel ILD traffic cannot be routed via VoIP period.  In fact, the letter clearly states the opposite, provided an Interconnection Agreement is provided.

Am I mis-reading the Acting Director&#039;s letter?

AVP

PS- With regard to the truck analogy, if you a had letter from TCD stating the conditions under which you could drive the truck without a license, then I think your analogue would be closer to the Digicel situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACU-</p>
<p>The letter from Michael Wells, Acting Director of Telecommunication to Digicel responds to the question, &#8220;Is it acceptable to offer all three services of ISP/Mobile and ILD (utilizing VOIP) to customers &#8230; using our Mobile License and Transact License&#8221; by stating &#8220;Yes, if you provide an Interconnection Agreement between yourself and Transact&#8230;&#8221; and goes on to remind Digicel that it &#8220;can offer ILD over VOIP only.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything that states that Digicel ILD traffic cannot be routed via VoIP period.  In fact, the letter clearly states the opposite, provided an Interconnection Agreement is provided.</p>
<p>Am I mis-reading the Acting Director&#8217;s letter?</p>
<p>AVP</p>
<p>PS- With regard to the truck analogy, if you a had letter from TCD stating the conditions under which you could drive the truck without a license, then I think your analogue would be closer to the Digicel situation.</p>
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		<title>By: allcloggedup</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[allcloggedup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with pebbles....Digicel know now what they knew then....Digicel ILD traffic CANNOT be routed via VOIP period.  They are prohibited by law to route their ILD via TBI or LINK.  Those are the rules for now. DOT should just admit that they only allowed Digicel to buy a VOIP carrier, this doesn&#039;t mean that Digicel can now bend the rules and route mobile via VOIP.  Think of it like this.....just because I purchase a HA Truck, but I don&#039;t have a license to drive, then I can&#039;t drive my own Truck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with pebbles&#8230;.Digicel know now what they knew then&#8230;.Digicel ILD traffic CANNOT be routed via VOIP period.  They are prohibited by law to route their ILD via TBI or LINK.  Those are the rules for now. DOT should just admit that they only allowed Digicel to buy a VOIP carrier, this doesn&#8217;t mean that Digicel can now bend the rules and route mobile via VOIP.  Think of it like this&#8230;..just because I purchase a HA Truck, but I don&#8217;t have a license to drive, then I can&#8217;t drive my own Truck!</p>
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		<title>By: A Visitors Perspective</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Visitors Perspective]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pebblebeach-

How do you know that Digicell&#039;s ILD service isn&#039;t offered via VoIP?

AVP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pebblebeach-</p>
<p>How do you know that Digicell&#8217;s ILD service isn&#8217;t offered via VoIP?</p>
<p>AVP</p>
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		<title>By: pebblebeach</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pebblebeach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Digicel, please take a chill pill and be quiet for a hot second....try being honest with the definition of VoIP OnLy and stop trying to pursuade us the paying public that what is being offered is within the conditions of your license when you and I know it simply is not...We know the ILD service your offering simply is not VoIP....

You jumped the gun, now take a chill pill and get back in your lane...

We do not wish to pay for your legal costs.

I&#039;m Just Saying...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digicel, please take a chill pill and be quiet for a hot second&#8230;.try being honest with the definition of VoIP OnLy and stop trying to pursuade us the paying public that what is being offered is within the conditions of your license when you and I know it simply is not&#8230;We know the ILD service your offering simply is not VoIP&#8230;.</p>
<p>You jumped the gun, now take a chill pill and get back in your lane&#8230;</p>
<p>We do not wish to pay for your legal costs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Just Saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: allcloggedup</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[allcloggedup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Digicel are business savy and pulled a quick shot that the &#039;sleepers&#039; didn&#039;t pick up on until it was too late.  Somebody has got to pay.  I think Hiram took the biggest hit but it shouldn&#039;t stop there.  Wells should have known better. The SG was definately asleep at the wheel.  Caines is right, that department is too critical to be run by common civil servants with no formal background in regulating Telecoms.  Bean&#039;s only solution should be to allow all industry players to take the gloves off and duke it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digicel are business savy and pulled a quick shot that the &#8216;sleepers&#8217; didn&#8217;t pick up on until it was too late.  Somebody has got to pay.  I think Hiram took the biggest hit but it shouldn&#8217;t stop there.  Wells should have known better. The SG was definately asleep at the wheel.  Caines is right, that department is too critical to be run by common civil servants with no formal background in regulating Telecoms.  Bean&#8217;s only solution should be to allow all industry players to take the gloves off and duke it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Amazed</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223430</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amazed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to ask yourself why is Digicel trying so hard to convince the public of its case when this matter is before the courts? &quot;Me thinks they doth protest too much&quot; LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to ask yourself why is Digicel trying so hard to convince the public of its case when this matter is before the courts? &#8220;Me thinks they doth protest too much&#8221; LOL</p>
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		<title>By: I gotta be me</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I gotta be me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[exactly what I was thinking!  their legal bill must be HUGE!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly what I was thinking!  their legal bill must be HUGE!</p>
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		<title>By: Go Digicel!</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2012/06/digicel-responds-to-cole-simons-comments/#comment-223366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Go Digicel!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This whole thing is too funny! I don&#039;t even care whether they&#039;re in the right or not, I just love how Digicel keeps releasing a statement to counter anything that anybody says like a real SHOTTA. Next they&#039;re gonna release a statement, then release a statement to address that statement.

&quot;We at Digicel would like to address a statement just released by the Digicel Group in response to Digicel&#039;s claim that Dicigel is Digicel.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thing is too funny! I don&#8217;t even care whether they&#8217;re in the right or not, I just love how Digicel keeps releasing a statement to counter anything that anybody says like a real SHOTTA. Next they&#8217;re gonna release a statement, then release a statement to address that statement.</p>
<p>&#8220;We at Digicel would like to address a statement just released by the Digicel Group in response to Digicel&#8217;s claim that Dicigel is Digicel.&#8221;</p>
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