Comments on: PLP Host ‘Rising Stars Night’ Public Forum

By: LOL (original TM*)

LOL (original TM*) — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:06:03 +0000

Yep that is correct.@ OBA(Only Brings Austerity)its funny that what the PLP are doing although quitely is what you think the OBA will do wait till the election is over and they will trim the civil service anyway………………

LOL

By: Wheerzs Waldo?

Wheerzs Waldo? — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:28:36 +0000

WEll done…LOL…he said welldone…ha ha ha…well done…now that is funny…well done…hehehe………..

By: Alex Smith

Alex Smith — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:18:34 +0000

totally agree not a true representation of a UNITED Bermuda

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:10:49 +0000

The “likes of me”….? Project much?

PLP’s curse is to have been plain dumb, not foolish. Reign of error? bwwahahahaha.

By: Keepin' it Real...4Real!

Keepin' it Real...4Real! — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:26:56 +0000

u people are so caught up thinking that you know everything about politrics that trics are being pulled on you and you dont even know because your mouth is open and your ears are closed….F#@KIN’ IDIOTS wasting precious time

By: Keepin' it Real...4Real!

Keepin' it Real...4Real! — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:58:26 +0000

monetary worth calls the shots so take it from there …..

By: Vulpes

Vulpes — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:30:12 +0000

By way of example, consider how many former UBP parasites are now PLP candidates and so-called stalwarts on Government boards.

By: Vulpes

Vulpes — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:27:35 +0000

Methinks the PLP is suffering from one of the problems that plagued the old UBP and was instrumental in ending its era in Government – parasitic sorts who join as a way of getting ahead in life and not because they are true believers. Just listen to the drivel coming from the mouth of the last speaker. His good brother should slap him, (just like he did Burgess).

By: Mad Dawg

Mad Dawg — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:01:05 +0000

Bermuda’s going in the right direction?

In what way exactly? More murders? More unemployment? More beggars on the street? More debt? More empty shops? More empty restaurants? More empty disused hotels? More empty promises from Bazarian? More empty derilict houses and apartments?

By: Mad Dawg

Mad Dawg — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:57:20 +0000

If you mean Berkeley, that was finished by 2003. All the borrowing after 2005 had nothing to o with that. Got any more “facts” you want to share with us?

By: Mad Dawg

Mad Dawg — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:55:31 +0000

PATI. Where is it?

By: Mad Dawg

Mad Dawg — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:54:20 +0000

It’s in chaos even with them not trying to “fix” it. Every year they have teacher shortages because they’re incapable. Why do we need more civil servants than teachers? Why isn’t the money spent on the kids rather than fat cat civil servants?

By: Sandman

Sandman — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:59:43 +0000

Extra votes for landowners was repealed in 1968.
Whether you have single or multi seat constituencies is neither here nor there, other than that the smaller the constituency the more potential for vote rigging / Gerry mandering

By: media

media — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:46:38 +0000

Recent information I have heard about one of these ‘Rising Stars’
would be considering anything but good. Pick you candidates wisely…

By: Staying focus

Staying focus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:48:18 +0000

Congratualations to these young black man, that are making a real different in Bermuda. They have stood up bold, and taken a stand to make a significant different in their country. Many on here are hiding out in Cyber-Space Lynching folks, but have failed to anything that will a differene or worthwhile contributions to Bermuda. We must praise these young man, and push them forward. Powerful group of young men that are Bermuda’s Raising Stars. These young man will make all the difference to Bermuda.

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:34:08 +0000

Nothing would’ve give the likes of you more pleasure than to see more chaos in the system by chaging it so soon after the UBP “fixed it”. The PLP’s curse is to have been foolish enough not to realize that you people destroyed these things in the knowledge that they’d spend decades fixing it. This Government is still shovelling shite from the UBP’d reign of error. Toe to toe on records any day of the week mate.

By: Bda Onion Girl

Bda Onion Girl — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:15:38 +0000

Debt, debt, debt… travel, travel, travel, photo ops galore, friends and family plan.

By: Sandgrownan

Sandgrownan — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:02:59 +0000

She could have changed it. And she has had time and opportunity to do so.

Don’t try and pull that one.

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:36:08 +0000

Did she agree with their changes or on your angry little planet is membership enough? Because that cuts both ways….you ain’t the only person who remembers the bad old days.

By: Sandgrownan

Sandgrownan — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:28:37 +0000

That means you’re an idiot. Increase in unemployment, debt, violent crime,..yeah moving inthe right direction.

By: Sandgrownan

Sandgrownan — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:26:44 +0000

Wrong. The board that setup the middle schools as they are today was cross party and included Dame Jennifer Smith you disingenuous turd. And they’ve had 14 years to make chamges and yet they still cannot get work permits processed in time. There are more civil servants in the dept of education than there are teachers.

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:53:16 +0000

Last time with you man. Premiers don’t “ask” Ministers to step down, and Ministers don’t say no and carry on. Premiers fire Ministers or Ministers resign. What money do you think is missing? Ask a direct question and from public sources of information I bet you an answer can be found. Capital Expenditures are disclosed every year as part of the budget process. The fact that you don’t know doesn’t mean it never happens. The EEZ is a geogrpahical designation and so the cost of it is the cost of the #2 pencil required to draw the lines on the map. I think even this Government can afford that.

By: Little Sound

Little Sound — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:59:52 +0000

We’ve seen 14 years of cost creation and debt mismanagement so I guess that’s the new definition of “investing”? And now that we have this incredible mess, the PLP would suggest that this is what they mean by “investing in our people” and “standing strong for Bermudians”. If you are a Bermudian under 30, you should pay very close attention because this is your debt! The PLP investment programme has resulted in horrendous job losses, no jobs for Bermudian children who want to come home, no desire for anyone to invest in Bermuda, soaring crime, a public school system that, although the PLP have been told exactly how to fix it, continues to spiral into chaos because the PLP need the teachers votes, and a debt that even Wall Street can’t believe. But on the positive side, the PLP have a fleet of Government cars at their disposal and (Premier) Paula Cox’s salary is creeping pretty damn close to what the US President gets paid.

It’s pretty simple. Nobody outside the PLP diehards can possibly believe that we should just continue dancing down this yellow brick road that the PLP regime thinks is the path to glory. The mere fact that we have a change in Government will be a massive positive sign to the outside world and to Bermudians. Stay with this PLP investment programme and we will will simply die on the vine…

By: OBA (Only Brings Austerity)

OBA (Only Brings Austerity) — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:52:11 +0000

Preach on!

By: OBA (Only Brings Austerity)

OBA (Only Brings Austerity) — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:51:21 +0000

My hand right here!

By: OBA (Only Brings Austerity)

OBA (Only Brings Austerity) — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:43:58 +0000

Morpheus, Get your facts stright. PLP Lowered the debt from 1998 – 2005. PLP borrowed money to Build a 2nd senior school, in 2006. Stop being tainted by the lies and do your own research.

Records are publically avaialble on all government websites, do your research and don’t be ignorant.

Doesn’t matter how you vote, but don’t make a choice out of ignorance.

By: OBA (Only Brings Austerity)

OBA (Only Brings Austerity) — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:40:55 +0000

What planet are you on? Black Business prospered under the PLP despite if you were a PLP business or UBP/OBA business, just ask Craig Cannonier.

As for our kids, PLP is righting the public education ship after being handed a failing system by the UBP. I think they took to long to admit failure, but there are improvements in public education for all to see. Look at the quality students that come out of our 2 public high schools. Its not all bad as you may want to claim!

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:13:47 +0000

What records do you want released? Don’t jump on that train that “everything is a secret”. That is total BS. The PLP has been the most investigated Government in the history of Bermuda.Just because they didn’t find what they wanted doesn’t mean anything is secret. Let’s get that straight. As for empowering black businesses, that too is a funny one. You and others can’t have it both ways. Empowering black businesses in this country requires operating in a way that offends everything that is Bermudian. It means brooking no criticism and doing things that redress the wrongs of the past. I agree with you, my Government has not had the courage to produce real empowerment for black people. They’ve paid too much attention to enforcing a system that was designed to exclude blacks in the first place; in fact under this Cox Administration they’re doing better at that than the UBP.

By: Morpheus

Morpheus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:47:12 +0000

@Terry we have been hoodwinked man

Why did Premier Cox ask Zane to step down and he said NO? Why wont they reveal where the money went? Why didnt they strengthen education? Why are we kept in the dark as far as capital expenditures? EEZ is great! We love it! How many are getting it? How much was spent on this? How are we gonna pay for it?

Respect and Love

By: Terry

Terry — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:28:59 +0000

@ hmmmm don’t waste your time explaining to these white clouds in the sky! They know why they change their name to OBA the other day, and so do we. They don’t want to admit the truth.

By: Winnie Dread

Winnie Dread — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:25:43 +0000

Bermuda

By: Winnie Dread

Winnie Dread — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:25:18 +0000

Show of hands, who agrees bermuda is heading in the right direction?

By: Morpheus

Morpheus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:22:46 +0000

Say they didnt…in fact i will say they didnt. What happen to the money? Why did business’ not get stronger…black contractors not get stronger? Why did schools not get stronger? True black empowerment would have done this. Say that racism is what it is….but why did we not strengthen the peoples minds and money. The deficit grew during the good times 2000-2007 to $700 million. And now no one wants to release the records. How do I trust that? How do you trust that?

Respect and Love

By: Come Correct

Come Correct — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:21:35 +0000

…But its really not that simple is it? To be perfectly honest unless you’re looking at every ballot dropped in the box no one really knows, unless of course your walking around with your partys t-shirt on. I’m not voting plp but you wont catch me rockin an oba shirt, why? Because I’m not a poster board. I think the party shirts are stupid (not just the green ones) because it clearly shows an allegiance to a specific party. If absolutely nothing can sway your decisions, thats called ignorance. Truthfully this whole party politics thing doesn’t work for me but I refuse to not vote. I refuse to sit idle while the Bermuda I grew up in and love goes down the drain because of the greed of a few. So where does that leave me? Well I have high hopes for Jeff Baron, he seems genuine. He’s been by my house, but I haven’t seen…hahahaha well nevermind, I’d probably release my dog anyway. I get excite though when I see a small group of well dressed people walking through the neighborhood, I say to myself “oh the plp must be canvassing!”, NOPE its the damn Jehovas witness every time. See the reason the plp won’t get my vote is because my vote doesn’t matter to them, they already have the majority in their eyes. How do I know you ask? “I won’t waste anymore of your time.” From the now Premier after my first question. How am I supposed to vote for the plp? Even if I could excuse their abismal record.

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:11:08 +0000

You sound like one of those people who thinks that if we say the words “post-racial” or “all is well” then it is so. Well it isn’t. The PLP didn’t polarize Bermuda along racial lines, that is Bermuda period. Our failure to admit this simple truth has precluded us from dealing with the real issues that now confront us. We’re not prepared to deal with things like globalisation and the new normal of the economy because we haven’t even dealt with the basic question of race. Even in these harsh economic times we can’t even recognize and encourage opportunities for job creation without snide and nasty remarks about who gets to make some money out it. Until we reach the point where we’re colour blind about who profits from something, this country, never mind this economy, cannot improve. Race is holding us back more than ever now because it affects our ability to make quick decisions and support enterprise. We’re starving but we’ll be damned if we’ll sit by and let a political opposite open a bread factory; we’d prefer to starve….and so we do.

By: Morpheus

Morpheus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:05:54 +0000

Absolutely….I am smart enough to know that nothing was done to empower anyone outside of a small circle. Race is used to cover that fact. If we stop hating and ask good questions we will find nothing has been done to better Bermuda. Just look around. Are we stronger, richer, more empowered better off now?

Don’t take a 6 for 9. Ask good questions!!!

By: Bermyman

Bermyman — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:49:56 +0000

How can you increase Debt with no plan or system in place to increase your revenues?
How can you claim that programs are a success when they have no track record as of yet and no benchmark to compare?
How can you claim that education has improved because more students are passing, but the passing requirements and difficulty of exams is lower? How will these kids ever get a chance to go to a top University if their diploma is inferior when compared to government schools in the U.K. and Canada?

Window dressing statistics does not cover up the reality that we have more violent crime and poverty than ever before.

That money wasted in the form of hundreds of millions could have been used to support welfare programs and create jobs.

The bloated civil service takes from the economy, it does not generate $$$ into our pockets. The hard working people of the private sector pay for every single government workers job and pension from their pockets. These people are the ones that keep this country afloat, that and foreign business.

If the PLP is so concerned with the White vote, why have they done nothing to appeal to the white community? Instead they have attacked and ridiculed anyone who is not brown skinned. Why would a black person vote for a party that behaved the same way if the situation was reversed? If the OBA behaves that way then why is it likely some black people will vote for them and they have black members and candidates?

Bermuda is divided by politics; the PLP clings to race and the jobs the government give people to secure their power. At the end of the day the only interest is to divide the electorate by referencing historical injustices based on race and class. One would think that we still live in those times, or one would think that the PLP wished we were still in those times just to give them more political ammo. The world is changing, society is more integrated racially and economically. The future relies on our population working together, achieving a higher level of education and awareness of the modern world around us. By improving this you empower people of any race or background to have a better life, a better future and a better Island.

Young politicians of today must make sure they are not brainwashed by the older Bermudians who see the world we live in through a tainted lens. We need a worldly perspective, not a small minded mentality based on limited experiences. This is what we get with a lot of politicians on both sides of the fence, but more with the PLP than any other.

Don’t follow blindly and don’t believe everything you are told by anyone. Ask the questions for yourself and trust your own judgment when you form your own opinions, not the opinions of an outdated political party with an outdated agenda.

By: Photos never lie

Photos never lie — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:25:18 +0000

That’s the point whites vote oba/ubp and blacks vote plp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Morpheus

Morpheus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:13:58 +0000

How do you trust it Hmmmmmm? Where is the money at man? Why werent black business strengthen so we stand strong now? Why werent our kids educated so they wouldnt look for a handout now? Why?

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:03:38 +0000

One man, one vote, each vote of equal value. Brought to you by the PLP over the objections of the UBP (now OBA). Were you part of “White Tuesday” when the country’s cacusian minority marched to Government House to demand that the British save us from true universal adult suffrage? You can say a lot about this Government but NOTHING can change the facts that the UBP was against single seat constituencies and one man, one vote, each vote of equal value. Deal with that.

By: Morpheus

Morpheus — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:53:53 +0000

How can you trust a party that will not tell you where the money has gone? Make Zane accountable. Give the financials to the auditor general. smh How can I defend my people when it looks like Zane is calling the shots. How is that right?

By: Come Correct

Come Correct — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:22:54 +0000

Lol I think your math is wrong, it looks like you’re off by about 9.9% or 10%.

By: What are you looking at?

What are you looking at? — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:10:40 +0000

Hmmm… I think I see 90% of one race in the first picture of this PLP rally…

By: elston

elston — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:05:51 +0000

And the PLP is what % of one race?

By: Life

Life — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:44:57 +0000

When is the OBA rally? I can’t wait to see the yoke on their face when it’s 90% of one race!!

By: Sandman

Sandman — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:57:39 +0000

There’s also a woman downstairs in the post office who wears a PLP band around her neck. Public services should be seen to be impartial as they serve the whole cominityl. I’m sure others find it inappropriate too but nobody complains because if it got back to her it would make life even more difficult when you’re trying to collect packages

By: Sandgrownan

Sandgrownan — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:32:55 +0000

Positive about what exactly? Inspiring? Surely you jest?

It’s taken them since 1998, but they eventually did it, they screwed Bermuda. And that’s motivating?

It’s pretty stupid.

By: Sandman

Sandman — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:41:53 +0000

The things mr Dickerson talks about – votes for women, one person one vote …
Weren’t those things the UBP introduced?

Difficult to think of any great reforms carried out since 1998.

When people look back in the years to come, the great PLP legacy will be the massive debt burden that we’ll now have to slave hard for to pay off, and the start of the gang problems.

Those two items will quite possibly sink Bermuda.

By: OMG

OMG — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:21:18 +0000

The PLP is 100% standing “Strong for Bermudians” while Bermuda is sinking in a hole???
What they need to do is do the right thing for Bermuda and the “Bermudians” will follow. They have it the wrong way around!!!

And Yes I am Bermudian!!

By: welldone

welldone — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:02:48 +0000

Well done guys!!