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	<title>Comments on: Minister Fahy On Butcher Training Programme</title>
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		<title>By: Toodle-oo</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-822670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toodle-oo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if you live to be 180  I doubt if you&#039;ll still know as many &#039;Bermudians&#039;  and their  lineage/family as I do. I would never say on these blogs ,as Tommy did , that  someone in a truck , or anywhere , was a Bermudian without clarifying it by  stating that I knew the person I saw as a Bermudian. Tommy NEVER originally said that that he knew the person. Get it ? 
The amount of  idiocy written on these blogs by people who can&#039;t make a clear point or be word specific so as to avoid confusion is becoming a chronic problem . It&#039;s now bordering on the nonsense we hear on the call in radio shows. Actually , now that I think of it , it&#039;s worse !  

And Tommy ,  please be careful who you call a troll. If you&#039;re confusing me for one  you&#039;re really not very internet/blog savvy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you live to be 180  I doubt if you&#8217;ll still know as many &#8216;Bermudians&#8217;  and their  lineage/family as I do. I would never say on these blogs ,as Tommy did , that  someone in a truck , or anywhere , was a Bermudian without clarifying it by  stating that I knew the person I saw as a Bermudian. Tommy NEVER originally said that that he knew the person. Get it ?<br />
The amount of  idiocy written on these blogs by people who can&#8217;t make a clear point or be word specific so as to avoid confusion is becoming a chronic problem . It&#8217;s now bordering on the nonsense we hear on the call in radio shows. Actually , now that I think of it , it&#8217;s worse !  </p>
<p>And Tommy ,  please be careful who you call a troll. If you&#8217;re confusing me for one  you&#8217;re really not very internet/blog savvy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Chong</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-821632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommy Chong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being an assistant manager at the market place church street probably pays better than butcher &amp; trinket seller. It also seems to be a less labour intensive jobs since from my observation all you have to do is stand behind the costumer service counter with a blank look on your face &amp; when a costumer comes to ask a question step back &amp; let anyone else behind the counter answer it besides you. The other criteria for this job seems to be walking around the store aimlessly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being an assistant manager at the market place church street probably pays better than butcher &amp; trinket seller. It also seems to be a less labour intensive jobs since from my observation all you have to do is stand behind the costumer service counter with a blank look on your face &amp; when a costumer comes to ask a question step back &amp; let anyone else behind the counter answer it besides you. The other criteria for this job seems to be walking around the store aimlessly.</p>
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		<title>By: windwater</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-819957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[windwater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 03:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could tell a Bermudian especially if you know them.  The island is small meat head.  Maybe you are the idiot.

As far as &#039;umms&#039; comment, it&#039;s more like the OBA need to create 2,200 jobs to break even if you include the layoffs in the last 7 months.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could tell a Bermudian especially if you know them.  The island is small meat head.  Maybe you are the idiot.</p>
<p>As far as &#8216;umms&#8217; comment, it&#8217;s more like the OBA need to create 2,200 jobs to break even if you include the layoffs in the last 7 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Chong</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-819731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommy Chong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 02:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because I am a “Real Bermudian” born &amp; raised &amp; spending more of my years here than elsewhere &amp; can recognize the grandson of someone in my community. I&#039;m not in texas toodles I&#039;m in Bermuda. BIG DIFFERENCE! ;)

Furthermore! If you like to troll Umm that&#039;s your little obsession not mine. I just made a comment about their comment &amp; didn&#039;t feel the emotion in their words like you did. Frankly, I would have thought if it was sarcasm it would have been typed with an extra exclamation point. Then again you know umm better I just thought it was another naive party supporter since both sides have em.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because I am a “Real Bermudian” born &amp; raised &amp; spending more of my years here than elsewhere &amp; can recognize the grandson of someone in my community. I&#8217;m not in texas toodles I&#8217;m in Bermuda. BIG DIFFERENCE! <img src='https://cloudfront.bernews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Furthermore! If you like to troll Umm that&#8217;s your little obsession not mine. I just made a comment about their comment &amp; didn&#8217;t feel the emotion in their words like you did. Frankly, I would have thought if it was sarcasm it would have been typed with an extra exclamation point. Then again you know umm better I just thought it was another naive party supporter since both sides have em.</p>
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		<title>By: Toodle-oo</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toodle-oo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And just how did you know that the worker you saw in the back was Bermudian ? Did you see his passport  or are you basing that on the same stupid assumptions that other people around here make about what &#039;real Bermudians&#039; are supposed to look like ? 

And furthermore , if  you couldn&#039;t recognize the sarcasm or &#039;facetiousness&#039; &#039;umm&#039;s&#039;  post above  I&#039;d recommend that you stop posting  anything more. You&#039;re not as smart as you think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just how did you know that the worker you saw in the back was Bermudian ? Did you see his passport  or are you basing that on the same stupid assumptions that other people around here make about what &#8216;real Bermudians&#8217; are supposed to look like ? </p>
<p>And furthermore , if  you couldn&#8217;t recognize the sarcasm or &#8216;facetiousness&#8217; &#8216;umm&#8217;s&#8217;  post above  I&#8217;d recommend that you stop posting  anything more. You&#8217;re not as smart as you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Double Standards</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Double Standards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love to buy fresh cut meat for my barbecue during a hot summer day...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to buy fresh cut meat for my barbecue during a hot summer day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Chong</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommy Chong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They won&#039;t because then they will have to admit there&#039;s a huge immigration violations going on that they are not willing to change. Anyone who thinks that the majority of 2000 unemployed are able to fill IB positions needs to come back down to earth. We need IB but we don&#039;t need loads of IB positions in IB to get 2000 back to work we need an array of jobs for which already but are taken by permit holders.

This morning I saw a cleaning company truck with four foreign workers in the front. When this truck passed me I saw someone jammed in the back between all the cleaning equipment. The person jammed in the back was a young Bermudian worker looking out of place &amp; distraught. This made me sick to my stomach &amp; made me realize Bermudians are become second class citizens in their own country &amp; the current government I helped to get elected hasn&#039;t lifted a finger to change this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They won&#8217;t because then they will have to admit there&#8217;s a huge immigration violations going on that they are not willing to change. Anyone who thinks that the majority of 2000 unemployed are able to fill IB positions needs to come back down to earth. We need IB but we don&#8217;t need loads of IB positions in IB to get 2000 back to work we need an array of jobs for which already but are taken by permit holders.</p>
<p>This morning I saw a cleaning company truck with four foreign workers in the front. When this truck passed me I saw someone jammed in the back between all the cleaning equipment. The person jammed in the back was a young Bermudian worker looking out of place &amp; distraught. This made me sick to my stomach &amp; made me realize Bermudians are become second class citizens in their own country &amp; the current government I helped to get elected hasn&#8217;t lifted a finger to change this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Dover</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Dover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love to buy trinkets, and nothing beats a cold soda on a hot day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to buy trinkets, and nothing beats a cold soda on a hot day.</p>
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		<title>By: Double Standards</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818255</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Double Standards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still pays better, and requires alot more expertise and experience, than sitting on a pier trying to sell trinkets and sodas to cruise passengers as Mr. Marc Bean ecnouraged Bermudians to do the other day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still pays better, and requires alot more expertise and experience, than sitting on a pier trying to sell trinkets and sodas to cruise passengers as Mr. Marc Bean ecnouraged Bermudians to do the other day.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Chong</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommy Chong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This needs to be explained to commenter Umm… who seems to think it does. It amazes me how many people support politics like sports teams &amp; route for them even when they underperform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This needs to be explained to commenter Umm… who seems to think it does. It amazes me how many people support politics like sports teams &amp; route for them even when they underperform.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Dover</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Dover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... and I would bet that E&amp;Y and Endurance pay better than Lindo&#039;s pays a butcher. I guess the OBA never specified what kind of jobs these 2000 would be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and I would bet that E&amp;Y and Endurance pay better than Lindo&#8217;s pays a butcher. I guess the OBA never specified what kind of jobs these 2000 would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Dover</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Dover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four jobs created? That doesn&#039;t even offset the 7 LOST this week at E&amp;Y and Endurance. I think that makes 2003 more to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four jobs created? That doesn&#8217;t even offset the 7 LOST this week at E&amp;Y and Endurance. I think that makes 2003 more to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Umm....</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-818072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umm....]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only 1,996 more jobs to go. Well done OBA!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 1,996 more jobs to go. Well done OBA!</p>
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		<title>By: Mazumbo</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-817822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazumbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s good,  2000+ and counting]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s good,  2000+ and counting</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Chong</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-817707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommy Chong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed! This is a slight nick in the surface of Bermuda&#039;s unemployment &amp; a far cry from being victorious.

I will also ad in relation to the years required part of your comment that most employers gain permits for workers who have less experience than what is required on their posted ad. This just goes to show that many times years of experience translate to Bermudians need not apply.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed! This is a slight nick in the surface of Bermuda&#8217;s unemployment &amp; a far cry from being victorious.</p>
<p>I will also ad in relation to the years required part of your comment that most employers gain permits for workers who have less experience than what is required on their posted ad. This just goes to show that many times years of experience translate to Bermudians need not apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hind</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-817681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[any evidence that it&#039;s NOT the case, other than speculation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any evidence that it&#8217;s NOT the case, other than speculation?</p>
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		<title>By: Portia</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2013/07/minister-fahy-on-butcher-training-programme/#comment-817354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Portia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phase two requires the newly certified individuals to enter the workforce as trainees to gain practical experience.&quot;

What I am interested to know is, are these jobs full-time, permanent positions, or are they only temporary for a few weeks or months to give the students some practical experience?

Practical experience is always a good thing, and most vocational programs do require you to do a work term at the end of your classes. But it seems to me that when Marketplace, Lindo&#039;s etc advertise for butchers, they are usually looking for someone with say, 3-5 years experience, not a recent grad. If these students are only being taken on for a short while, will they have to go abroad to seek work in order to return to Bermuda to compete with the more experienced foreign butchers who already hold those jobs? That is what the Minister needs to clarify.

While I applaud the students for completing the program, and the Government for making it possible, what I object to is any grandstanding by the Minister that this is contributing to the 2000 promised jobs, unless that is really the case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phase two requires the newly certified individuals to enter the workforce as trainees to gain practical experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I am interested to know is, are these jobs full-time, permanent positions, or are they only temporary for a few weeks or months to give the students some practical experience?</p>
<p>Practical experience is always a good thing, and most vocational programs do require you to do a work term at the end of your classes. But it seems to me that when Marketplace, Lindo&#8217;s etc advertise for butchers, they are usually looking for someone with say, 3-5 years experience, not a recent grad. If these students are only being taken on for a short while, will they have to go abroad to seek work in order to return to Bermuda to compete with the more experienced foreign butchers who already hold those jobs? That is what the Minister needs to clarify.</p>
<p>While I applaud the students for completing the program, and the Government for making it possible, what I object to is any grandstanding by the Minister that this is contributing to the 2000 promised jobs, unless that is really the case.</p>
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