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By: Suzie Quattro

Suzie Quattro — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:33:25 +0000

Alvin, what the hell are you talking about. What a load of racist claptrap.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:45 +0000

Mr. Williams, would you care to address the fact that you lied in your post about me? Or are you going to let those lies stand?

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:47:22 +0000

Blaming everyone in a racial group for the actions of a section is racism. Plain and simple.
Look at the first section… It’s “your ancestors” (which is false, of course) and then, instantly, “you kept it going…”

This kind of hate has no place in our country.

By: Say Say Say

Say Say Say — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:38:33 +0000

Alvin: The Cayman’s is a mosquito ridden swamp. They need all the people they can get – even if they are expats. In addition, giving people who were born here status is not anti Bermudian and shouldn’t be even in your mind. It is fair and just. Some of those kids may even look like you Alvin. What do you say to that?

By: Bermuda Male

Bermuda Male — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:37:36 +0000

I am very happy to know that I have nothing in common with a bigot such as yourself. Gives me hope for my future.

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 01:24:50 +0000

When you start talking about creating a Bermudian nation that is when our children and thier children will endeavour to make the prospect of real unity a reality for this country. but until than we have nothing in common.

By: Bermuda Male

Bermuda Male — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 20:11:30 +0000

Well one thing is for sure, your racial hatred, rhetoric and general overall approach to race relations surely don’t assist in creating in a unified demographic. It actually does the opposite and hence the claim that people such as yourself and others who retain such mindsets do nothing but divide the races is absolutely correct. You are simply a liability to Bermuda and the human race in general due to the hate you espouse and promote on a daily basis.

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 19:08:05 +0000

I divide the races? your ancestors should have solve this racial question before I was born; But no you kept it going even after slavery was suppose to have ended. So here we are today in my life time facing the legacy and consequences of those times. It is true that some of my African ancestors sold my ancestors into in to the hands of European and I might add Arab slavers. But here is what an African king in Ghana said to my travel group
when I visited my ancestral home land Africa; ‘It sadden him to look into our faces; African/Bermudians and African/Americans; for it reminded him what a monstrous crime it was for his ancestors to have sold their brothers and sisters into slavery; although this was often done in a time of war and another tribal group lost that conflict were fated to suffer the consequences of that lost. And in another Africa country I visited; Cote D’ Ivoire once know as the Ivory Coast and in discussions with two professors from a university who have come to discuss this question of African collaboration with the European and Arab slavers. They compared it to the dictators and African traitors who
sold out their countries resources and peoples to former colonial rulers
for their own selfish reasons in post colonial Africa. But I ask this question; why is it that the European nations of southern Europe are a little darker than their northern European counterparts? Is is because of the non-white invasions of Europe from north Africa? When Hannibal march across Europe on his way to the gates of Rome; he recruited an army made up of the tribes of Europeans to conquer other Europeans. Did not the English sell Irishmen and women into slavery. There where British held Irish slaves in the earliest settlement of north America and there were Irish slaves in Bermuda. When it comes to collaboration there is the example of the Vichy French who sold out their country to the Nazis during world war two. So It seem that after all we are all alive.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 18:10:13 +0000

Note the silence.
This is a running theme with racists like Mr. Williams (Who, by the way, if he’s reading, should note that I got his name right. It’s really not difficult.)… They post these horrible, false things – outright lies – and then run away when called on them.

Cowards. Not one of them have the courage of their convictions.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 18:07:16 +0000

When you start using some truth, we might be getting somewhere.
Sadly, you use lies and racism to promote your cause and, sadly, history has proved that this isn’t the way.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 18:05:38 +0000

Who said is wasn’t? You’re moving the goalposts again.

Try a little honesty.

By: godson

godson — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:06:46 +0000

You can say that twice @silence

By: Kangoocar

Kangoocar — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:01:04 +0000

Free mind alvin?????? Your mind is not free at all, you are trapped in it!!!! It is your type of thinking that keeps the races divided in this island!!!! You are a sick individual, but sadly there is more like you in this island, Bermuda will be much better off the day Alvin’s type of thinking is gone!!!!!

By: Silence Do Good

Silence Do Good — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 07:24:07 +0000

Mr. Williams,

Please stop. Europeans did not go into the heart of Africa and steal our brothers and sister away to a new land. They provided the opprotunity for our own race to sell us into slavery. Like everything regardless of the situation if the opprotunity exist for someone to do better than someone else: the crooks, cheats, liars and general scum of society will line up first to take advantage of an opprotunity to serve their best interest, without a second thought for their fellow man. Black, white, yellow or green the haves will have on the backs of the have nots. Both Bermuda political parties are no different and anyone who votes party politricks supports the crazy making of unstable policies of protectionism verses capitalism.

By: Sandy Bottom

Sandy Bottom — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:47:16 +0000

You’re like a guy in the street yelling at clouds Alvin.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:56:29 +0000

Yet another one of “Mazumbo” running away when he can’t answer a question.

Pathetic.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:54:47 +0000

Oh, you know me, do you?

What makes you say that? Could it be the colour of my skin?

You know nothing. You should be ashamed of yourself, spreading lies like this.

You are a liar and a fraud and a hate monger.

For your information, because you have shown your ignorance, both my grandfathers were grocers. The British side, all the way back, were poor.
As for “dreaming of the days of plunder and slave trade”? There isn’t an Irishman in the islands that dreams of those days.

Do some research. If you’re going to try to make up stories about people, you should at least base them in reality.

But you don’t care about that, do you? You just want to spread your racist message because you’re upset that your party lost the last election, don’t you? How pathetic is that?

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:37:16 +0000

I don’t need your help Kangoocar; but you need help your time line goes further back than that which you spoke of; for you are a relic of the feudal age dreaming of the return of your rule and power. All of which will be for nought. Mike Hinds I know you; you are an old private just like your ancestors and you dream of the days of plunder and the slave trade. But I must tell you I have emerge from a bottomless pit; from the confines of a slave ship. I refuse to be a European clone; I am a black man with a free black mind and therefore we have nothing in common.

By: Everett True

Everett True — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:51:21 +0000

Mazumbo, the problem is that you bring race and ‘de struggle’ into conversations and debates where it isn’t warranted. It’s all you’ve got. Why I was criticizing Marc Bean was because I think most people saw a really positive throne speech, with some strong ideas, and Bean had no come back apart from the same old rhetoric…brother this, wickedness and vile and of course “our people” (you lost Marc).

Basically what he is latching into is that he has no clue, but he leads the typically black party, so come on guys, back me, right? Wrong. You do have to have some policies Marc. Race is not enough, not for your one dimensional arguments Mazumbo, or to lead us out of tough times.

By: Michael Tucker

Michael Tucker — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:51:02 +0000

It seems to me that both parties have a watchtower that has its origins based on facts . I don’t think it’s a silver bullet syndrome that can heal this province, education is what we are here coping with.How can we sit here as fruit of this blooming tree and dare to clone and reap and disregard its roots?The Bermuda of yesteryear endured comment of its hospitable ways because we use to see the benefit in it. Politicians are people who have families and I’m sure they must enjoy looking back at times through their fore parents views with pride,unless it’s a barbaric past were humans use to walk as apes or some creature who use to stare at their reflection in the waters of the river and wish they could walk upright.International Business can operate outside of this country and still reap the rewards of its registry thanks to technology so who’s face is in house holds little water, but policy and the opportunities to it is where politics has it’s hold.

By: Realist

Realist — Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:45:22 +0000

Foreign investment will not come here if there is any chance of the PLP regaining the govt.

By: Mazumbo

Mazumbo — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:34:51 +0000

Its people like you who want to shy away from the truth and bury your head in the sand. Your problem is trying to transcend without confronting the problem which is a process. Education does not eradicate peoples mindset the world is full of educated fools with no common sense, and the material I read you probably would not be able to comprehend or understand. You want me to forget about the black power stuff in a white power society, what world are you living in. Your eccentric !

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:32:52 +0000

Sickening.
The level of hatred is disturbing.

By: Ringmaster

Ringmaster — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:36 +0000

Marc Bean has merely confirmed that it is business as usual within the PLP. He may be trying to portray a new, refreshing and up to date PLP leadership style but it is very clear that he is merely a puppet of the old guard. Step out of line and he is history. Harry Potter politics is what caused the PLP to lose the last election, and will hopefully mean the PLP, until it really does modernize, will never be a Government again. They could have done so much good in the last 14 years but chose instead to look after and enrich a few within their inner circle. The majority of their voter base will be suffering from those actions for many, many years.

By: Kangoocar

Kangoocar — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:09:57 +0000

Alvin, you are a sad individual!!! Thankfully your thoughts and opinions mean little in this world!!! You have actually sunk to a level I never thought even you could get too, you are now saying that black people should remain poor??? Why don’t you say that to EB and a few other plp higher uppers ????

By: Bermuda Male

Bermuda Male — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:49:52 +0000

S if a black person is wealthy and successful he isn’t really black?

Thought stereotyping was bad?

By: jt

jt — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 20:28:12 +0000

Time will tell, but I ssupect we will look back and view the PLP’s last 8 years as anti-Bermudian, if it’s not fair to do so already.

By: Tolerate

Tolerate — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 20:05:02 +0000

The “attempt to grant status is modern day wickedness against one’s own people” and “has nothing to do with economics, and everything to do with the political sorcery of solidifying one’s power by altering Bermuda’s voting base,”
And who the f*** is “our people”?
Come on serious? So now the race card is played it’s the “OBA is against OUR PEOLPLE”? Who people is that Mr. Bean? Are they ALL Bermudians black AND white?
Our people saw an OBA that couldn’t keep a promise or keep a story straight from one day to the next,” Well who was them people a little while back that was all for moving forward together for the betterment of Bermuda.
And really, this is the response I’ve been waiting to read? A few days ago I had some new found respect for the PLP, but wow; reality check. This is nothing but thoughtless ranting.
SMH

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:51:27 +0000

There it is. Exposing himself as the racist he is by using racist epithets.

Your motivations are crystal clear now.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:49:12 +0000

Here he goes again… Babbling nonsense so he can get his “anti-Bermudian one term blah blah blah” in.
No reality involved, just pathetic party politics.

It’s sad.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:47:08 +0000

As always…

“It’s ok when we do it”

By: Kangoocar

Kangoocar — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:41:14 +0000

Sorry alvin, I forgot to also inform you that after the plp made a mess of our beloved Island, The majority of Bermudians woke up on Dec 17th, 2012 and elected a responsible government ( OBA ) to clean up the mess by your plp !!! So far with all the hidden obstacles they have had to face, they have been doing a pretty good job!!!!

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:34:18 +0000

Well it was Brazilian football legend Pele who once stated ‘Money whiten’ that is all I am going to say on the existence of black million dollar holders and any other such people of colour who have wealth. However to comment on this so-called post racial era; the day I see a white man standing on the same picket line as myself; the day I see a white man who supported labour in England remains a supporter of labour in Bermuda; than I will say it’s not about race; it’s about the haves and the have not.

By: Kangoocar

Kangoocar — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:23:25 +0000

Alvin, I just wanted to update you on what has been going on in this world since the 1960s that you are still living in!!! Communism has all but disappeared, even Eastern Germany collapsed,and socialism has failed everywhere also, in the the 1970′s Russia and the US stopped landing on the moon and the US went on and built an aircraft that looks like a plane that was flown into space and returned to be able to be used again!!! Also since the 1960s the last of the racially oppressive governments “South Africa” was thrown out of power and the world now has been moving on ever since!! Moving on to the 21st century, most capitalistic ( non socialist ) countries have realized that immigration is much needed and a good thing!! Most countries economies have become global and those countries that continue to not joini are heading straight into a disaster situation for its citizens!!!! In 1998 your plp was elected to govern Bermuda and the test results are in, this may come as a shock to you but their final grade was an F, their policies and way of thinking failed us all miserable!!!!!
Who would have thought all of that would happen since the 1960s????? Hope this helps you alvin!!!!!!

By: Sandy Bottom

Sandy Bottom — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:14:17 +0000

Alvin, you comment that they’re trying to “whiten Bermuda as a counter to Bermuda’s black majority”.

Explain to me how that’s different from the guy standing on the lawn saying “there goes the neighbourhood” when black families move in?

Aren’t you really just the same as the guy on the lawn?

By: Sandy Bottom

Sandy Bottom — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:12:37 +0000

What about the racist comments by alvin Williams? You’re fine with that I take it.

And let me know which of my posts was ‘hateful’.

By: Michael Tucker

Michael Tucker — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:44:42 +0000

Such a speech is well deserved of the attention I see it has gotten thus far.Mr Bean is to be commanded for the output of such words and further more if he stands by them through and through.Bermuda does to have history and it is based on race it’s human race,The days of saying its ok without looking into a matter are to be untold in the mouths of young Bermuda society.We people really need to consider we’re change can take us,anti social behaviors often lead to dismantling and chaos.A simple day in the park with family and friends is a blessing to enjoy and to reflect on appreciated opportunity with the smile of humbled progress is a good thing for Bermuda ,I think.To think that someone would want to highlight demonizing as the stance of order rather than admit trouble has a definition.

By: Sandy Bottom

Sandy Bottom — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:18:43 +0000

Man, you are an absolute out and out racist bigot. You just love doing the hate speech thing don’t you.

By: godson

godson — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:04:28 +0000

I don’t think its about “black and white anymore”…I think its about the “haves” and “have nots”…there are some black people in Bermuda who are “sitting pretty”, and there are some white folk who are “taking licks”…. Sometimes race takes a back seat in Politricks…

By: Kangoocar

Kangoocar — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:52:19 +0000

Harry Vierra, UBP MP, 30 yrs ago stated the following ” trying to get the plp to commit to anything, is like trying to nail jello to a wall, it can’t be done” it amazes me that 30 yrs later those words are just as true today!!!!

By: godson

godson — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:50:33 +0000

That is Politics…The truth is that BOTH parties have done good and bad so far…Instead of focusing on what works, they would rather focus on verbal gun-slinging. Clearly, both parties have brainwashed SOME folk into the verbal ignorance. Some of these comments go way off track, and seem like deep hatred spewed into words. WE NEED TO BALANCE the OBA’s idea of attracting the $ to keep us going, AND the PLP’s idea of helping the grassroots Bermudian. WE used to do it through Tourism, then IB came and added a bonus to our Island. We focused more on IB, because is was long term investment, now we are scraping to keep that comittment. In some ways we have made ourselves hostages in our own land. IF we go back to FOCUSING on one pillar of our economy, then maybe we can save $ trying to attract the other. Right now, we can’t afford to “serve two masters”.-peace

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:45:43 +0000

The opposition reply to the throne speech is right on the money. How else do you describe the policies of this anti-Bermudian one term OBA government whose clear aim is to create a Bermuda without the Bermudian; but to describe it as wicked. The aim is to create another Cayman Island where the foreign worker now out number the native Cayman islander and now is in position to dominate the politics of the country with the assistance
of their British Kith and kin of course. The anti-Bermudian one term OBA government just like it’s forefather the former UBP government of No. wishes to return to the days of race base immigration policies in their effort to further whiten Bermuda as a counter the existence of Bermuda’s black majority. No matter how much talk is given to we must all act together; the clear evidence is there for all to see and that is that the herd mentality with regard to white voting patterns will persists.

By: Esther Elaine Kelly

Esther Elaine Kelly — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:11:59 +0000

@jt: I agree. You see the likes of Marc Bean, Mazumbo and others who think just like them have had the shackles removed from their feet and hands. But the shackles on their brains remain.
The best remedy to the injustice our forefathers faced is education. When we educate ourselves we can transcend most anything. To our young black males – pull your pants up! Put your guns down and stop using drugs. To our young black women respect yourselves, stop settling for less than you deserve. Educate yourselves. Our foreparents endured the struggle so that we won’t have to live like they were forced to. Let’s stop undoing everything they have done to ensure our freedom.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 14:56:10 +0000

Hilarious. Not a single mention of the hate that “Mazumbo” is posting.
Why is that? Do you agree with him?

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 14:50:14 +0000

And you have proof that this person is… how?

(And how can you not sound racist when you base your negative opinion solely on race? That’s the definition… How do you not know this?)

By: Sandy Bottom

Sandy Bottom — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 14:48:32 +0000

He also hates other black people who don’t hate white people. He’s an absolute scum racist.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 14:47:22 +0000

Oh, no… it’s not an opinion, it’s quantifiably incorrect, as are most things you say.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 14:45:22 +0000

We’re not in the House of Commons and we don’t have a Speaker to reprimand you when you step out of line.

And we’re not talking about white privilege. You obviously don’t understand the concept, if this is what you think it means.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 14:43:35 +0000

And your comments reflect yours.

And it’s one of race-based hatred and division and moral superiority and it’s wrong and it’s sick and it’s bad for Bermuda.