Comments on: Cannabis Charged Dropped Against Moniz

By: Wilson: “Curious” That AG Commented On Case | Bernews.com

Wilson: “Curious” That AG Commented On Case | Bernews.com — Mon, 06 Jan 2014 01:02:04 +0000

[...] When he reappeared in Court the Crown offered no evidence so Senior Magistrate Archie Warner dismissed the charges against the 19 year old, who is the son of the Minister of Health and Environment Trevor [...]

By: LOL(original tm and all that)

LOL(original tm and all that) — Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:47:37 +0000

Please, I’ve been using the moniker LOL as long as bernews has been around. Ive amended it a few times as more and more LOLs have popped up.

By: LOL(original TM and all that)

LOL(original TM and all that) — Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:39:36 +0000

Actually as long as bernews has existed I’ve been posting under the moniker LOL, and I didnt see anyone posting under that name until several variations popped up after a while. Why are you so sure that you’re the first? I can’t say for sure that I am, and wouldnt be arrogant enough to assume otherwise.

Ultimately who cares? Ive distinguished my name from yours with the ‘and all that’ part of my name.

By: spot2

spot2 — Sat, 04 Jan 2014 14:35:51 +0000

sort tom, it’s not race. it’s which political party is in at the time. all kinds of things were “overlooked” and “no evindence found” during the PLP regime.

By: Motto of the story

Motto of the story — Sat, 04 Jan 2014 03:55:07 +0000

By: sage

sage — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:53:20 +0000

Second last sentence should say,”this kind of injustice to occur…..”

By: tom

tom — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:30:39 +0000

it has everything to do with race,end of story

By: LOL (original TM*)

LOL (original TM*) — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:31:06 +0000

I wish people would support themselves here. why did you dislike what I said? Was it what I said about the US or do you believe that Bermuda is like the US?

By: Tolerate

Tolerate — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:07:42 +0000

Wow, many family members? Here’s a news flash “weed is illegal”….. Tell your MANY family members stop smoking weed.
I’m truly sorry to hear that this decision has affected their lives; but hoping the same for another does no justification.
After all; are we not trying to push that the law responsible for ruining lives for young people (black and white) who are experimenting; be addressed? In this case; was that not done? Wishing for this individual to be punished as your many family members, does not move in that direction.
As mentioned above, this is one of numerous cases involving blacks and whites recently as to how police actions to small amounts of weed has changed. Is this NOT what we are trying to achieve?
Answers to your questions; where did evidence go? Read above as to no evidence provided to prosecute. Evidence did not go anywhere. Why should he be on stop list? Because you’re many family members are? Superiors involved in charges dropped? Read the case.
Don’t let emotions lead you…..

By: Tolerate

Tolerate — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:51:42 +0000

Sorry… I’m black and I’m with them. Tired of the whole black/white thing. F***; what Bermuda coming to? I am 45 and don’t remember such a level of hatred between races in Bermuda. All being backed by they did it so why not us or they got away with it but why not us.
F****** sickening that most arguments are about comparing two cases in which something wrong/illegal was done and the blogs are consumed with conversation on prosecuting or rewarding bad behavior. We seem more consumed with arguing who got a break as opposed to who did not because of skin color? I’m not specifically referring to this case; just most cases in general. It’s like the OBA/PLP back and forth arguments on “they did it so we can too”.

By: LOL (original TM*)

LOL (original TM*) — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:34:02 +0000

No denying race can be a factor. Do I agree in all cases race is the factor no.

“is the whole race wrong.”

Would not be the first time think black slavery.

LOL

By: LOL (original TM*)

LOL (original TM*) — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:27:43 +0000

You need to plead guilty…..

LOL

By: Tolerate

Tolerate — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:24:51 +0000

You may have gotten seven dislikes; but most that can’t get around simple fact and logic often react in this way. I am not condoning actions of either of the two you have mentioned and compared, but you are spot on and have from my part; put up an airtight argument on the similarities. Other than being black/white or PLP/OBA; it’s the old faithful that will not alter or understand.

By: LOL (original TM*)

LOL (original TM*) — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:17:13 +0000

I have the same expeience as you I’m white and what. Where you see race I see class and guess what money is the factor it’s color is green. That’s on my life expierence. Or is yours more valid than mine?

LOL

By: LOL (original TM*)

LOL (original TM*) — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:13:54 +0000

There is none the US was born in descrimination. Things aren’t as bad anymore but it’s still bad with fairly large pockets of BS that need to die off and a law system that sees blacks as a social problem. Bermuda is hardly the US………….

LOL

By: Just My Opinion

Just My Opinion — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:11:48 +0000

I will bet my bottom dollar that both Truth is killin’ me… and Enough Already are white. Do you notice that only white people seem to think that colour doesn’t matter. Why don’t you stop to ask yourself the question, “Why do most black people think that colour matters?” Do you think that maybe because it affects them or is the whole race wrong.

By: Time Shall Tell

Time Shall Tell — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 04:43:57 +0000

(holds head down in shame for not proof reading my post before correcting someone else) It should be:

“all was said was that the support was NOT going to be given to the OBA.”

By: sage

sage — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 04:00:51 +0000

@ummm,80% of drug users in the US are white 13% black, percentage of black people incarcerated for drugs, 90+. Black people are impacted the most due to straight out racism, racial profiling and drug laws which toss constitutional rights out the window and were designed to enable this kind of to occur and continue. Excuse me TST,clicked the wrong reply.

By: The Skink

The Skink — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 03:56:25 +0000

Seems like this young man has some daddy issues.

By: Makai Dickerson

Makai Dickerson — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 03:23:25 +0000

For clarity, I was given a caution for the case relating to me. You get one caution and my one and only is gone. For the record my case never would have went to court as it could have been dealt with at the police station once I showed up and signed the statement. But since it was leaked for political gain and a big issue made of it, it went to court, however my lawyers came in with the details and what was meant to be in the first place took place.

I am not angry that this young man was not convicted nor fined for his alleged “offense”, as no one should be for this, however bringing me into it our comparing our cases is non and void. This case should be revealed for what it is as mine was. Answer the questions of the people and you have no worries. Don’t put me into it.

By: Time Shall Tell

Time Shall Tell — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 03:03:24 +0000

@ u ank sers

Perhaps you don’t read too well (can already tell you can’t spell too well), all was said was that the support was going to be given to the OBA. Nowhere was it said support would be given to Makai (or by extension the PLP) who if I remember stepped down as a candidate anyway.

By: Micro

Micro — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 02:57:03 +0000

And there was no law that said she had to be disqualified from driving; a number of people got off with just fines for DUI for the exact same reason.

By: Time Shall Tell

Time Shall Tell — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 02:17:04 +0000

@ummm please explain your statement “I know marijuana can be consumed by anyone, but blacks due to their way of life and culture seem to impacted the most.” I know MANY blacks that don’t partake in the use of marijuana while I know many other groups who do so to pin that whole stereotype on a single race is wrong on many levels.

By: Think...

Think... — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:40:04 +0000

I think the point of him being ‘let off’ should be to not allow anyone to be affected by the possession of small amounts of weed regardless of race. if that is the consensus, GREAT!! We should not hear or read of such cases in the media forever after today. This is a win for all Bermudians.

The part that should hurt all blacks in this country is that the PLP never addressed this and the OBA are on the road to doing so. If you got a conviction over the last decade you need to ask the PLP why they never addressed it because the FACTS remain, we were affected the most.

By: AG Comments On Moniz Cannabis Court Case | Bernews.com

AG Comments On Moniz Cannabis Court Case | Bernews.com — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:02:04 +0000

[...] the news that charges for cannabis possession were dropped against Minister Trevor Moniz’s 19 year old son today, Attorney-General Mark [...]

By: Keepin' it Real...4Real!

Keepin' it Real...4Real! — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:00:55 +0000

Who said that this case has NOT set a new precedence..? This young man was arrested, charged and put on bail for 2.1 grams of Cannabis. He appears in court and the DPP offers NO EVIDENCE!! The ONLY excusable explanation I would accept would be from a DR.s Affidavit that the young man was terminally ill and not expected to live and could expire at any time now….other than that they would be involving themselves in immoral or unethical behavior, which is not always illegal. 2014 people…you better get prepared and stop falling for the distractions ..they love when you’re b!t@h!n an moanin n fighting amongst yourselves over spilled milk…oops News iz on !!!

By: Ruthless

Ruthless — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:35:32 +0000

Don’t get me wrong, I should have finished my point cause its my personal opinion that they do just as much drugs or maybe more than black people but they don’t do it on the sides of the road to get caught like black people.

By: ummm

ummm — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:34:04 +0000

Firstly, you posted incorrect data:

Ethnic groups (2010[2]) 54% Black people 31% White People 8% Multiracial People 4% Asian people
4% other

“Roughly 98 per cent of Bermuda’s inmates are black, and that means 148 out of every 10,000 black males in Bermuda is in prison”.

Secondly, do you not understand basic math and ratios? You can still work the numbers which will tell you that possession of marijuana and other crime impacts blacks worse than whites in Bermuda. It’s not a biased mindset of posters on this forum; its the facts and truths about black culture.

I know marijuana can be consumed by anyone, but blacks due to their way of life and culture seem to impacted the most.

By: Mazumbo

Mazumbo — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:22:56 +0000

Majority of U.S.A. is white any excuse for that

By: Mazumbo

Mazumbo — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:16:21 +0000

Would he get a free pass to travel like de Tourism Minister?

By: Disgusted

Disgusted — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:09:37 +0000

I’m with you. There’s two sets of justice in this country and it is not weighted based on the population makeup either. There have been clear cases where PLP MPs’ children were prosecuted for drug possession and placed on the stop list. There appears to be some unfair tactics taking place here.

By: sage

sage — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:03:37 +0000

Quick question,Have you ever heard homosexual rights campaigners call for people’s right to smoke herb to be respected, for Rastafarians for instance? Or any other groups, facing discrimination, rights for that matter? Personally I have no problem with gay marriage, and I can’t understand why gays accept being given rights selectively. Equal rights but you can’t get married? You should talk to the Premier, he said no marriage, and he is the leader, for now.

By: Enough Already

Enough Already — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:52:28 +0000

they can’t, blind followers that just refuse to see it. you are 100% correct, and I would bet more blacks than whites get a freebie just on population ratio.

By: Leola Wade

Leola Wade — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:52:08 +0000

This is injustice to say the least. I have many family members who are on the Stop List because of small portions of weed. They cannot travel freely. Bermuda do not let this case go away like many others. We must continue to speak up and question this unjust justice system. Unfortunately, there are two sets of rules. I can surely see why Black Bermudians get disgusted with this island. At the end of the day, we are NOT together! Some questions need answering:
*Where did the evidence go?
*Should Moniz be put on the stop list? (he should)
*Who were the superiors who were ultimately involved in getting the charges dropped?
*Will we get answers?
Keep this case in the news Bermuda! Don’t let this die a slow Bermuda death like many other cases!

By: Enough Already

Enough Already — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:45:14 +0000

no comment. Tired of this BS.

By: Enough Already

Enough Already — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:41:58 +0000

yes Betty you do need to “LOOK at the NUMBERS” What is the population of black male to white male ratio.The higher the percentage difference the more skewed will be the arrest numbers by simple maths. DON’T Play the race card on this

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:31:03 +0000

Here is the thing that should be a concern to us, convictions , cautions conditional discharges for even small amounts of grass will expose the defendant to US stop List , and avoiding a young student ending up on the Stop List must have been a priority for the family , the stop list is a very big deal and to avoid it for one child and not another has the smell discrimination … So its discrimination that you may be smelling.

By: Truth is killin' me...

Truth is killin' me... — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:25:47 +0000

Black, white, BLACK, WHITE…STFU you bunch of racist, b*****n’ MOANERS!!! Charges have been dropped by prosecutions to black and white people in the past if you care to open your eyes.

By: u ank sers

u ank sers — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:22:17 +0000

LMAO I get exactly what betty is saying but most of the time Betty doesn’t give truths, just his/her opinion which he/she regards as truth and you lot soak up as truth lol.

By: VEX

VEX — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:21:09 +0000

this is crazy honest.. really
wake up bermuda xoxo.

By: Lang

Lang — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:18:53 +0000

With literaly 70% of our population being black, and less than 20% white… Obviously the numbers are gonna be different.

But hey… Why does race always need to be brought up..?

Out of all the places I have been to, this island has the most racial talk. And its predominantly black against white. That makes me sad that this is 2014 and we still cant have a news posting without someone saying “white this” or “black that”

Keep it up bermuda.

By: Suzie Quattro

Suzie Quattro — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:14:38 +0000

The evidence wasn’t “lost” in this case or in the Dickerson case either. In both cases the crown declined to present any evidence. The two cases are exactly the same.

As you eloquently pointed out, this happens quite often, and most of the time it wouldn’t have attracted any media interest at all, for either of them.

It’s just interesting that a year ago you were so eloquently arguing in Dickerson’s corner, in exactly the same circumstances.

By: Indepedent

Indepedent — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:12:17 +0000

@ Lol

I base my opinion on life experience. As a black men, born in this country, things were never on an even playing field.

By: watchfuleyes

watchfuleyes — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:07:08 +0000

@Ruthless, but how may white males are selling drugs out of their mansions? Because we don’t see them doing anything illegal by the side of the road does not mean it is not happening in their neck of the woods, and that they are not involved in that trade.
What are we suppose to start, because ‘you are black’????

By: LOL(original TM*)

LOL(original TM*) — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:06:27 +0000

http://bernews.com/2013/01/makai-dickersons-cannabis-charges-dropped/

The link is clear!! Charges DROPPED against Makai – stop looking for a conspiracy where there is none!

By: Common Sense

Common Sense — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:54:46 +0000

Sorry but I don’t accept Apartheid State’s “Facts” at all. No how no way! I suggest that he go to the press and provide them with ALL the details of his past history and allow them to conduct a full investigation with both the Police and U.S. Consulate’s office. There is no way that any police officer would have taken any action to even try to put this man on the U.S. authorities “Stop List” just because he was once caught with a spliff that didn’t even merit a caution or a court appearance.

I suspect that he will do nothing because there is more to this allegation than he is telling us.

By: Tricks Are For Kids

Tricks Are For Kids — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:53:20 +0000

Yes Susie Q.. Of course I remember… I wrote it…. Ever so flattered that you would research my previous comments.. I am truly honored…
However, I am not prepared to go tit for that with you as the article currently being Commented on is NOTabout Makai but rather young Mr. MONIZ.. MY point if you read with understanding was about in the future moving forward. It was not based on past tense. On top of that I’m sure that you know just as I do the evidence was not “lost”;-)

By: Curious

Curious — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:51:59 +0000

Well I am a lawyer, not a second year law student, and I do believe you get the gist of what people are saying: I believe it is not the judgment they are concerned with rather the offering of no evidence by the DPPs office when there was apparently evidence to support an arrest and charge in the first instance. Pertinent question: why was he arrested and charged in the first instance, given bail of $2,000 (which suggests this wasn’t a slight bit of evidence) if there wasn’t any/enough evidence to proceed with a trial???

By: Soooooo

Soooooo — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:51:26 +0000

The crown offering NO Evidence, does not mean it disappeared..

Just as with Makai Dickerson they decided not to proceed and offered no evidence..

By: Ruthless

Ruthless — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:45:06 +0000

Just asking…… How many black males are selling drugs on the side of the road vs How many white males selling drugs on the side of the road? How many black children have been to court for possession of drugs after traces found on a grinder? And I’m black before you start.