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		<title>By: Input Sought On Bermuda&#8217;s Shipping Channels &#124; Bernews.com</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1753025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Input Sought On Bermuda&#8217;s Shipping Channels &#124; Bernews.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 13:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] BECLtd has been engaged by the Government of Bermuda to undertake an Environmental Impact Assessment [EIA] of three possible options for the modification of Bermuda’s shipping channels. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BECLtd has been engaged by the Government of Bermuda to undertake an Environmental Impact Assessment [EIA] of three possible options for the modification of Bermuda’s shipping channels. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cole</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1557713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With govt permission he removed a 20ft reef in castle harbour]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With govt permission he removed a 20ft reef in castle harbour</p>
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		<title>By: Mazumbo</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1556147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazumbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um did Ross Perot remove reef ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um did Ross Perot remove reef ?</p>
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		<title>By: JUNK YARD DOG</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1555562</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JUNK YARD DOG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steam Ship &quot;LORD COCHRANE&quot;.

The east / west  ship&#039;s channel in the &quot;Great sound&quot; at Stag rocks 
 was dug by a coal burning bucket hopper dredger  named the &quot;Lord Cochrane&quot; ,the forward 3/4 of the length of the  of hull was a divided
 &quot;U&quot; shaped  slot to accommodate the  cubic yard bucket chain configuration,  of a similar design and principal as the modern day street boom trench  digger we see on our roads today.

 The Lord Cochrane approximately 150 ft long ship would buck, when it hit the hard stuff,this vessel puffing black smoke was out there digging the 30 ft deep channel for months on end.&quot;&quot;
 Most likely the &quot;Lord  Cochrane&quot; dug out &quot; Town cut&quot; and &quot;two rock passage&quot; channels. 

 There was another vessel at the time we referred to as the &quot;Sand Sucker&quot;
it was a massive floating water pump that pumped sand  out &quot; Cavello bay&quot; ferry terminal  forming the beach to the North  West at long point.
 
   To see a small picture of the  Lord Cochrane

  Google to  Bucket - hopper dredger : lord Cochrane 
  or 
  try www.gracesguide .co uk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steam Ship &#8220;LORD COCHRANE&#8221;.</p>
<p>The east / west  ship&#8217;s channel in the &#8220;Great sound&#8221; at Stag rocks<br />
 was dug by a coal burning bucket hopper dredger  named the &#8220;Lord Cochrane&#8221; ,the forward 3/4 of the length of the  of hull was a divided<br />
 &#8220;U&#8221; shaped  slot to accommodate the  cubic yard bucket chain configuration,  of a similar design and principal as the modern day street boom trench  digger we see on our roads today.</p>
<p> The Lord Cochrane approximately 150 ft long ship would buck, when it hit the hard stuff,this vessel puffing black smoke was out there digging the 30 ft deep channel for months on end.&#8221;"<br />
 Most likely the &#8220;Lord  Cochrane&#8221; dug out &#8221; Town cut&#8221; and &#8220;two rock passage&#8221; channels. </p>
<p> There was another vessel at the time we referred to as the &#8220;Sand Sucker&#8221;<br />
it was a massive floating water pump that pumped sand  out &#8221; Cavello bay&#8221; ferry terminal  forming the beach to the North  West at long point.</p>
<p>   To see a small picture of the  Lord Cochrane</p>
<p>  Google to  Bucket &#8211; hopper dredger : lord Cochrane<br />
  or<br />
  try <a href="http://www.gracesguide" rel="nofollow">http://www.gracesguide</a> .co uk</p>
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		<title>By: sage</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1555530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do we have to pay to dig up the Queen&#039;s bottom?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we have to pay to dig up the Queen&#8217;s bottom?</p>
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		<title>By: cole</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1555307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To do so would cause massive damage to the reef and change the lagoon. Bad idea]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To do so would cause massive damage to the reef and change the lagoon. Bad idea</p>
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		<title>By: JUNK YARD DOG</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1555236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JUNK YARD DOG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t make an omelette with out breaking eggs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t make an omelette with out breaking eggs.</p>
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		<title>By: JUNK YARD DOG</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1555190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JUNK YARD DOG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Years ago H. M. Bermuda Dockyard had two floating docks for hauling naval ships. 

 I wonder how polluted the water became during W W 11 at the north and South Dockyard Cambers ?

 I wonder what the  bottom paint toxic level used on cruise ships  which come here ? 

 I wonder in order to save money and time out of the water for dry docking ships, if the bottom toxic level is high ? 

 I wonder if those ship bottom paint applications have an adverse affect on reefs and fish.

 &quot;You cant make a cake if you don&#039;t break a few eggs.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago H. M. Bermuda Dockyard had two floating docks for hauling naval ships. </p>
<p> I wonder how polluted the water became during W W 11 at the north and South Dockyard Cambers ?</p>
<p> I wonder what the  bottom paint toxic level used on cruise ships  which come here ? </p>
<p> I wonder in order to save money and time out of the water for dry docking ships, if the bottom toxic level is high ? </p>
<p> I wonder if those ship bottom paint applications have an adverse affect on reefs and fish.</p>
<p> &#8220;You cant make a cake if you don&#8217;t break a few eggs.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: X man</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1554815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[X man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about widening the St.Georges Cut Channel first ! - so that a larger Cruise Ships can directly serve                                                       the economy of St.Georges. --- how about that&quot;
Kenny ya gotta make noise!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about widening the St.Georges Cut Channel first ! &#8211; so that a larger Cruise Ships can directly serve                                                       the economy of St.Georges. &#8212; how about that&#8221;<br />
Kenny ya gotta make noise!</p>
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		<title>By: skinnydipper</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1554065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skinnydipper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t I here St George&#039;s Town cut channel been included in these studies]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t I here St George&#8217;s Town cut channel been included in these studies</p>
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		<title>By: 6foot draft</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[6foot draft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so make a channel through western blue cut]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so make a channel through western blue cut</p>
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		<title>By: 40000Summer Dead Weight Tons</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552460</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[40000Summer Dead Weight Tons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ships go on the ocean planes fly in the air in case you are confused.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ships go on the ocean planes fly in the air in case you are confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Type 42 Destroyer</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Type 42 Destroyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sure the tree huggers are getting a useless petition drawn up now.  One ay not in my lifetime the Island might grow up and join the real world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure the tree huggers are getting a useless petition drawn up now.  One ay not in my lifetime the Island might grow up and join the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Type 42 Destroyer</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Type 42 Destroyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rhonda neil. Take a deep breath. You are obviously anti Bermuda progressing unless the deflated plp says it is so. The moon is in the sky OBA yes PLP no . Get a grip]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rhonda neil. Take a deep breath. You are obviously anti Bermuda progressing unless the deflated plp says it is so. The moon is in the sky OBA yes PLP no . Get a grip</p>
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		<title>By: Squid</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Squid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check the legislation - yes it does prevent the take of anything attached to the seafloor, but does have a proviso that reads something like ..... &quot;except for the purposes of the Government&quot; or some such. As this is for the purposes of the Government, the Act does not prevent the action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check the legislation &#8211; yes it does prevent the take of anything attached to the seafloor, but does have a proviso that reads something like &#8230;.. &#8220;except for the purposes of the Government&#8221; or some such. As this is for the purposes of the Government, the Act does not prevent the action.</p>
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		<title>By: cicada</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cicada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t the North Channel within the Coral Reef Preserve? How can it be OK to dredge there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the North Channel within the Coral Reef Preserve? How can it be OK to dredge there?</p>
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		<title>By: cicada</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cicada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They will still approach from Five Fathom Hole. They are proposing to dredge coral reefs and sand from either the North or South Channels, and the Narrows by Ft St Catherines. The North option means removing entire reefs measuring 60-m diameter...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will still approach from Five Fathom Hole. They are proposing to dredge coral reefs and sand from either the North or South Channels, and the Narrows by Ft St Catherines. The North option means removing entire reefs measuring 60-m diameter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Neil</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1552004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhonda Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is your opinion...that we need to widen the channel for future super mega ships into Dockyard,  ....IMO we should have widen Hamilton and St.Geo and continued having a regular ship there... but that time has passed, secondly the UBP renamed OBA said the only reason those two ports didn&#039;t have a regular smaller ship was due the PLP inability to negotiate... so why have they not negotiated on in an entire year….. that way we  won&#039;t have a need for a super mega ship... thirdly what happen to the concentration on Air arrivals... then again the OBA has stated that they make no apologies for contradictions….]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is your opinion&#8230;that we need to widen the channel for future super mega ships into Dockyard,  &#8230;.IMO we should have widen Hamilton and St.Geo and continued having a regular ship there&#8230; but that time has passed, secondly the UBP renamed OBA said the only reason those two ports didn&#8217;t have a regular smaller ship was due the PLP inability to negotiate&#8230; so why have they not negotiated on in an entire year….. that way we  won&#8217;t have a need for a super mega ship&#8230; thirdly what happen to the concentration on Air arrivals&#8230; then again the OBA has stated that they make no apologies for contradictions….</p>
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		<title>By: Eastern Mariner</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eastern Mariner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Real reason is most likely the fact that our channels are little changed from when they were laid out back in the early 1930s and designed for ships marginally larger than the old Queen of Bermuda. Town Cut was once thought too tight for her, although her near sister the Monarch visited St George once.

As ships get larger beyond the design limit of a narrow channel, it becomes more and more difficult to control the hydraulic forces action on the ship during the passage, especially under extreme conditions. Our channels have only had minor dredging in the past and no change to their width.

Remember the North Channel was demanded by the US so their ships could have an alternate from NOB instead of only the South Channel. Now the larger ships going to Dockyard have only one option which will pose a problem if there is an issue (grounding/sinking) in the North Channel, the ship alongside Dockyard will become a permanent hotel until rectified.

If you look at a chart you will see there is very little reef in the South Channel which would be impacted by any dredging and the channel is quite wide, until getting to the Elbow. So only the depth will be of concern.

As for covering the reef and coral from dredging and silt, you only need to observe the Narrows and approaches off St George when it turns to milk due to a storm passing to know that nature flushes the silt away, otherwise the reefs of Sea Venture Flats would long have been dead.

I am not for widening and dredging simply for the sake of doing it but the island cannot live in a bubble and watch ships get larger and not respond. The choice has long been make improvements or not have a ship, as Hamilton and St George have discovered as the ships have surpassed those port&#039;s entry design limits.

Take a look online in the North American market where the regular visitors sail from and see how many ships under 60,000 tons and under 725 foot length exist that could be currently accommodated in St George or Hamilton in their present condition...the answer is none.

The smaller ships can make more going up the Amazon or out of the way ports not served by the large ships and thus economics don&#039;t lend themselves to positioning one here as a regular caller. Ultimately the decision will become, make improvements or not have a cruise industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real reason is most likely the fact that our channels are little changed from when they were laid out back in the early 1930s and designed for ships marginally larger than the old Queen of Bermuda. Town Cut was once thought too tight for her, although her near sister the Monarch visited St George once.</p>
<p>As ships get larger beyond the design limit of a narrow channel, it becomes more and more difficult to control the hydraulic forces action on the ship during the passage, especially under extreme conditions. Our channels have only had minor dredging in the past and no change to their width.</p>
<p>Remember the North Channel was demanded by the US so their ships could have an alternate from NOB instead of only the South Channel. Now the larger ships going to Dockyard have only one option which will pose a problem if there is an issue (grounding/sinking) in the North Channel, the ship alongside Dockyard will become a permanent hotel until rectified.</p>
<p>If you look at a chart you will see there is very little reef in the South Channel which would be impacted by any dredging and the channel is quite wide, until getting to the Elbow. So only the depth will be of concern.</p>
<p>As for covering the reef and coral from dredging and silt, you only need to observe the Narrows and approaches off St George when it turns to milk due to a storm passing to know that nature flushes the silt away, otherwise the reefs of Sea Venture Flats would long have been dead.</p>
<p>I am not for widening and dredging simply for the sake of doing it but the island cannot live in a bubble and watch ships get larger and not respond. The choice has long been make improvements or not have a ship, as Hamilton and St George have discovered as the ships have surpassed those port&#8217;s entry design limits.</p>
<p>Take a look online in the North American market where the regular visitors sail from and see how many ships under 60,000 tons and under 725 foot length exist that could be currently accommodated in St George or Hamilton in their present condition&#8230;the answer is none.</p>
<p>The smaller ships can make more going up the Amazon or out of the way ports not served by the large ships and thus economics don&#8217;t lend themselves to positioning one here as a regular caller. Ultimately the decision will become, make improvements or not have a cruise industry.</p>
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		<title>By: a photog</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551654</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a photog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its talking about the Narrows just off of Fort St Catherine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its talking about the Narrows just off of Fort St Catherine</p>
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		<title>By: Huh?</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Huh?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[reading comprehension is so crucial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reading comprehension is so crucial.</p>
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		<title>By: sea monkey</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sea monkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, they did mention the Quantum class.  Thanks for contributing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, they did mention the Quantum class.  Thanks for contributing.</p>
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		<title>By: sea monkey</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sea monkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But there already WAS one, that&#039;s my point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there already WAS one, that&#8217;s my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Define &quot;modified&quot;.

Widening the channels will not benefit Hamilton nor St. George. Period.
We accommodate some of the largest vessels in the world on a draft basis and length.

The &quot;Narrows is the Narrows and always will be. The North Channel and South Channel will always be due to nature and a few destructive coral reef removals years ago.

There is more to it than meets the eye.
All these mega ships will still end up at DocYard and basically can only handle two at one time.

Now, if you want to do all this then just widen, dredge Western Blue Cut et al. Straight in; straight out.
Or.Stop wasting money on surveys and destroying reef areas for a couple of extra bucks.

Crap. The only vessels that use the routes are cargo vessels during the off season which is basically  almost 5 months.

There is no way to do this without eliminating coral reefs and breakwaters.

It&#039;s all about ching ching and the more tourists that arrive off a vessel that can&#039;t find a ride and costs them $100.......
Money in the coffers for a debt left.....

Shalom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Define &#8220;modified&#8221;.</p>
<p>Widening the channels will not benefit Hamilton nor St. George. Period.<br />
We accommodate some of the largest vessels in the world on a draft basis and length.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Narrows is the Narrows and always will be. The North Channel and South Channel will always be due to nature and a few destructive coral reef removals years ago.</p>
<p>There is more to it than meets the eye.<br />
All these mega ships will still end up at DocYard and basically can only handle two at one time.</p>
<p>Now, if you want to do all this then just widen, dredge Western Blue Cut et al. Straight in; straight out.<br />
Or.Stop wasting money on surveys and destroying reef areas for a couple of extra bucks.</p>
<p>Crap. The only vessels that use the routes are cargo vessels during the off season which is basically  almost 5 months.</p>
<p>There is no way to do this without eliminating coral reefs and breakwaters.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about ching ching and the more tourists that arrive off a vessel that can&#8217;t find a ride and costs them $100&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Money in the coffers for a debt left&#8230;..</p>
<p>Shalom.</p>
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		<title>By: Gariboldi</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gariboldi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right where they left them, I would imagine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right where they left them, I would imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Joonya</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joonya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And for all those cannabis cargo vessels which will have steady # of voyages.. lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for all those cannabis cargo vessels which will have steady # of voyages.. lol</p>
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		<title>By: in the know</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[in the know]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[clearly you still don&#039;t understand, even if/when we get smaller ships for hamilton/st geo, we still need to widen one  of the two channels for  1. the lagers ship to make it to dockyard 2. for any possible future ships that comes years down the line 3. Safety &amp; security for the ships.

Stop trying to always look negative on the govt. &amp; you just may be able to see the good of this for the whole of Bermuda. 

If your plp was smart they would have done this at the same time they built the over price over budget dock in dockyard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clearly you still don&#8217;t understand, even if/when we get smaller ships for hamilton/st geo, we still need to widen one  of the two channels for  1. the lagers ship to make it to dockyard 2. for any possible future ships that comes years down the line 3. Safety &amp; security for the ships.</p>
<p>Stop trying to always look negative on the govt. &amp; you just may be able to see the good of this for the whole of Bermuda. </p>
<p>If your plp was smart they would have done this at the same time they built the over price over budget dock in dockyard.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Neil</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhonda Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so what happen to air arrivals..Hamilton and St. Geo...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what happen to air arrivals..Hamilton and St. Geo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reading is Key</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reading is Key]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is needed as part of a wider feasibility study which would allow larger cruise ships to visit Bermuda. Currently, in order for vessels to enter Bermuda, they must approach Five Fathom Hole on the North Eastern tip of the island.&quot;

Reading is key...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is needed as part of a wider feasibility study which would allow larger cruise ships to visit Bermuda. Currently, in order for vessels to enter Bermuda, they must approach Five Fathom Hole on the North Eastern tip of the island.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reading is key&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reading is fundamental</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551328</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reading is fundamental]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sea Monkey can&#039;t you read???????

“Vessels then can either proceed down the South or North Channel. One of these two channels will need to be modified in order to accommodate the new generation of cruise ships such as Royal Caribbean International’s Quantum class of ships.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sea Monkey can&#8217;t you read???????</p>
<p>“Vessels then can either proceed down the South or North Channel. One of these two channels will need to be modified in order to accommodate the new generation of cruise ships such as Royal Caribbean International’s Quantum class of ships.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reading is fundamental</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reading is fundamental]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not talking about widening TWO ROCK PASSAGE leading into Hamilton or TOWNCUT leading into St. Georges!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not talking about widening TWO ROCK PASSAGE leading into Hamilton or TOWNCUT leading into St. Georges!</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Neil</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhonda Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ in the know just checking if you comprehen...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ in the know just checking if you comprehen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Neil</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhonda Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank You....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank You&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Neil</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhonda Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[where are the ships for Hamilton and St. Geo... then we won&#039;t need to widen anywhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where are the ships for Hamilton and St. Geo&#8230; then we won&#8217;t need to widen anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: in the know</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[in the know]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly rhonda you can&#039;t read or comprehend cause they are talking about north &amp; sout channels that lead to dockyard...  There is no mention in the statement about two rock passage or hamilton Harbour... get it together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly rhonda you can&#8217;t read or comprehend cause they are talking about north &amp; sout channels that lead to dockyard&#8230;  There is no mention in the statement about two rock passage or hamilton Harbour&#8230; get it together.</p>
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		<title>By: sea monkey</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sea monkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t they mention the specific reason for widening the ship channels?  There have been a few articles recently, lots of moaning about how we really want the extra mega Quantum to come to Bermuda in 2015.  No mention of that here, just a general mention of bigger ships. The Quantum is the reason they are ramming this through so quickly. Meanwhile, the new tourism authority is aiming to attract more air visitors.

Also, no mention of the feasibility report from a few years back that was supposed to be the initiation of public discourse regarding whether we even have the infrastructure to support the visitor and crew numbers from more big ships.

Considering this has been on the table for a few years, government should not be ramming this through as quickly as they can, leaving inadequate time for the EIA.  April 2014?  Really, 3 months for scoping and public consultation? I guess I should be happy they&#039;re doing an EIA at all?

Can I present Option 4 - no dredging of the marine environment, and not selling our souls for a cruise ship.  Tourists come for our lovely marine life - why cover it in sand and silt from dredging?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they mention the specific reason for widening the ship channels?  There have been a few articles recently, lots of moaning about how we really want the extra mega Quantum to come to Bermuda in 2015.  No mention of that here, just a general mention of bigger ships. The Quantum is the reason they are ramming this through so quickly. Meanwhile, the new tourism authority is aiming to attract more air visitors.</p>
<p>Also, no mention of the feasibility report from a few years back that was supposed to be the initiation of public discourse regarding whether we even have the infrastructure to support the visitor and crew numbers from more big ships.</p>
<p>Considering this has been on the table for a few years, government should not be ramming this through as quickly as they can, leaving inadequate time for the EIA.  April 2014?  Really, 3 months for scoping and public consultation? I guess I should be happy they&#8217;re doing an EIA at all?</p>
<p>Can I present Option 4 &#8211; no dredging of the marine environment, and not selling our souls for a cruise ship.  Tourists come for our lovely marine life &#8211; why cover it in sand and silt from dredging?</p>
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		<title>By: a photog</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a photog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t people blast the PLP for wanting to do this? If so I hope the environmental &quot;do gooders&quot; protest against this as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t people blast the PLP for wanting to do this? If so I hope the environmental &#8220;do gooders&#8221; protest against this as well.</p>
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		<title>By: bluebird</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluebird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you &quot;OBA&quot; for being so OPEN and TRANSPARENT.
It is good to be informed as to what is transpiring.
Very different from the PDP.(destructive)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you &#8220;OBA&#8221; for being so OPEN and TRANSPARENT.<br />
It is good to be informed as to what is transpiring.<br />
Very different from the PDP.(destructive)</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Neil</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/01/ministry-looks-into-widening-shipping-channels/#comment-1551111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhonda Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this cant be true...But I thought the OBA said the reason there wasn&#039;t a ships in Hamilton and St. Geo..was because the PLP govt was incompetent in securing a smaller ship...besides that what happen to the numerous other studies....
SMDH...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this cant be true&#8230;But I thought the OBA said the reason there wasn&#8217;t a ships in Hamilton and St. Geo..was because the PLP govt was incompetent in securing a smaller ship&#8230;besides that what happen to the numerous other studies&#8230;.<br />
SMDH&#8230;</p>
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