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	<title>Comments on: Veendam Cruise To Return To Hamilton In 2015</title>
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		<title>By: Veendam Confirms Six Bermuda Trips In 2015 &#124; Bernews.com</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-2403710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veendam Confirms Six Bermuda Trips In 2015 &#124; Bernews.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] their initial announcement earlier this year that they would be returning to Hamilton in 2015, Holland America Line confirmed they will offer [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] their initial announcement earlier this year that they would be returning to Hamilton in 2015, Holland America Line confirmed they will offer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: somuchless</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1617663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[somuchless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought ncl has the exclusive rights to do the Boston to Bermuda run till 2017 hmmm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought ncl has the exclusive rights to do the Boston to Bermuda run till 2017 hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Looking in</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1616610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Looking in]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good work OBA,we know you have our best interest!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work OBA,we know you have our best interest!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hind</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1616162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it&#039;s a good start! Now we just need, like, 80 more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s a good start! Now we just need, like, 80 more!</p>
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		<title>By: bluebird</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1616124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluebird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The change of the Veendam has to do with the &quot;CHANGE OF GOVERMENT&quot; in Bermuda.
You did notice that we have had a change in Society of late,the tourists and IB and &quot;WHITES&quot; are not HATED AS MUCH.
The Veendam is just &quot;TESTING&quot; the waters,as they don&#039;t quite &quot;TRUST&quot; us as yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The change of the Veendam has to do with the &#8220;CHANGE OF GOVERMENT&#8221; in Bermuda.<br />
You did notice that we have had a change in Society of late,the tourists and IB and &#8220;WHITES&#8221; are not HATED AS MUCH.<br />
The Veendam is just &#8220;TESTING&#8221; the waters,as they don&#8217;t quite &#8220;TRUST&#8221; us as yet.</p>
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		<title>By: bluebird</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1616111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluebird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FOR YOUR INFORMATION................
There are more small and medium size cruise ships being built than the Mega ships.
Bermuda is &quot;NOT THE ONLY&quot; port in the world with LIMITED amount of space such as Hamilton Harbour.
There are a limited Number of ports that can accomadate the VERY LARGE ships.
It beats me why many do not understand this,,take the east Coast as there are only about (3) ports that they can get in,if there are more please name them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR YOUR INFORMATION&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
There are more small and medium size cruise ships being built than the Mega ships.<br />
Bermuda is &#8220;NOT THE ONLY&#8221; port in the world with LIMITED amount of space such as Hamilton Harbour.<br />
There are a limited Number of ports that can accomadate the VERY LARGE ships.<br />
It beats me why many do not understand this,,take the east Coast as there are only about (3) ports that they can get in,if there are more please name them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Bottom</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1614678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy Bottom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or has it been the crappy chaotic transport infrastructure?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or has it been the crappy chaotic transport infrastructure?</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1614072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 06:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is all of the above]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is all of the above</p>
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		<title>By: Triangle Drifter</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1613374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Triangle Drifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much wider does Two Rock &amp; the channels need to be?  The dock can effectively extended with dolphins. The ships of today, with their azipods &amp; bow thrusters can spin on their own axis, go sideways, crab, do everything but fly, all with the push of a joystick.

I am not a fan of the Panamax or post Panamax ships &amp; the hoards of people that they carry but if this is the way of the future we had better accomodate them.

It  would be nice to cater to the smaller boutique which offer 5 star service but as long as Bermuda is only 2 or 3 star ashore, they are not coming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much wider does Two Rock &amp; the channels need to be?  The dock can effectively extended with dolphins. The ships of today, with their azipods &amp; bow thrusters can spin on their own axis, go sideways, crab, do everything but fly, all with the push of a joystick.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of the Panamax or post Panamax ships &amp; the hoards of people that they carry but if this is the way of the future we had better accomodate them.</p>
<p>It  would be nice to cater to the smaller boutique which offer 5 star service but as long as Bermuda is only 2 or 3 star ashore, they are not coming.</p>
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		<title>By: somuchless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[somuchless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 23:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are*</p>
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		<title>By: somuchless</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1612787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[somuchless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 23:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My guess is that holland has changed their mind cause of the casinos being allowed to open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that holland has changed their mind cause of the casinos being allowed to open.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Revere</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Revere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Terry
Since you state Thad Constantine words are garbage, have a read:
Cargo and cruise vessels accessing   Hamilton   Harbour   utilize
Dundonald Channel and Two Rock Passage.  Dundonald Channel is a
152.5m wide, 3.9km long channel that connects Grassy Bay near Royal Naval Dockyards with Lower Great Sound.   Patch reefs border each side  of the channel along a 600m section at the north end. The average water depth is -11m CD. Two Rock Passage is 3.5 km long channel  with  a  minimum  width  of  106.7m  as  it  passes  between Mobray Island, a thin strip of rocky out-crop (0.37 hectares) to the north and Lefroy Island, a 1.5 hectare uninhabited island to the south as shown in  Figure 2-4.  The Two Rock Passage is at its widest point (approximately 550m) where it meets Dundonald Channel then narrows down to the aforementioned width between the islands before terminating into the turning basin within Hamilton Harbour. Agars and Verrill Islands border the channel as it approaches the turning basin while several smaller islands lie to the south of channel where it meets the turning basin (World&#039;s End, Butterfield Rock, Spectacle, Reid, and Doctor&#039;s Islands). The turning basin within Hamilton Harbour is approximately 425m.

To the east of the turning basin, through 180m wide passage between White’s Island and Hamilton Island is the Port of Hamilton. The Port of Hamilton contains berths for cruise and container ships, as well as local ferry operations.   Due to limitations in available water area in the main port area, larger cruise ships utilize the turning basin then “back” into and berth at the cruise terminal. 

From Dundonald Channel to Two Rock Passage proper, the water depths in the channel average 10m CD.  Water depths in the passage average 8.8m CD with some deeper pockets of 10m or greater where the  channel  meets  the  turning  basin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Terry<br />
Since you state Thad Constantine words are garbage, have a read:<br />
Cargo and cruise vessels accessing   Hamilton   Harbour   utilize<br />
Dundonald Channel and Two Rock Passage.  Dundonald Channel is a<br />
152.5m wide, 3.9km long channel that connects Grassy Bay near Royal Naval Dockyards with Lower Great Sound.   Patch reefs border each side  of the channel along a 600m section at the north end. The average water depth is -11m CD. Two Rock Passage is 3.5 km long channel  with  a  minimum  width  of  106.7m  as  it  passes  between Mobray Island, a thin strip of rocky out-crop (0.37 hectares) to the north and Lefroy Island, a 1.5 hectare uninhabited island to the south as shown in  Figure 2-4.  The Two Rock Passage is at its widest point (approximately 550m) where it meets Dundonald Channel then narrows down to the aforementioned width between the islands before terminating into the turning basin within Hamilton Harbour. Agars and Verrill Islands border the channel as it approaches the turning basin while several smaller islands lie to the south of channel where it meets the turning basin (World&#8217;s End, Butterfield Rock, Spectacle, Reid, and Doctor&#8217;s Islands). The turning basin within Hamilton Harbour is approximately 425m.</p>
<p>To the east of the turning basin, through 180m wide passage between White’s Island and Hamilton Island is the Port of Hamilton. The Port of Hamilton contains berths for cruise and container ships, as well as local ferry operations.   Due to limitations in available water area in the main port area, larger cruise ships utilize the turning basin then “back” into and berth at the cruise terminal. </p>
<p>From Dundonald Channel to Two Rock Passage proper, the water depths in the channel average 10m CD.  Water depths in the passage average 8.8m CD with some deeper pockets of 10m or greater where the  channel  meets  the  turning  basin</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1612069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Garbage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Thad Constantine</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1612048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thad Constantine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Her schedule has not been published after the July 4, 2015 sailing, so there is not real way to be sure that there will only be 6 sailings. That very well might be all that has been published.  As to larger ships in Hamilton, I think length, width and beam are all problems.  26&#039;-0&quot; is the maximum depth.  The pier in Hamilton cannot take ships longer than 740&#039;-0&quot; or so, and there is not a lot of space between the pier and White Island to turn the ship around.  I think the ships&#039; wide beam is also a problem with 2 Rock passage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her schedule has not been published after the July 4, 2015 sailing, so there is not real way to be sure that there will only be 6 sailings. That very well might be all that has been published.  As to larger ships in Hamilton, I think length, width and beam are all problems.  26&#8242;-0&#8243; is the maximum depth.  The pier in Hamilton cannot take ships longer than 740&#8242;-0&#8243; or so, and there is not a lot of space between the pier and White Island to turn the ship around.  I think the ships&#8217; wide beam is also a problem with 2 Rock passage.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A year away.
Shalom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year away.<br />
Shalom.</p>
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		<title>By: Triangle Drifter</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1612008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Triangle Drifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the issue with the larger ships? Is it their length, their beam or their draft? Where is the problem? Is it the channel leading up to 2 Rock, 2Rock Passage itself, turning space in Hamilton Harbour or dock length to accomodate them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the issue with the larger ships? Is it their length, their beam or their draft? Where is the problem? Is it the channel leading up to 2 Rock, 2Rock Passage itself, turning space in Hamilton Harbour or dock length to accomodate them?</p>
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		<title>By: bout time</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2014/02/veendam-cruise-to-return-to-hamilton-in-2015/#comment-1611969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bout time]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FINALLY!!!! Although, there&#039;s only 6 stops...FINALLY!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY!!!! Although, there&#8217;s only 6 stops&#8230;FINALLY!</p>
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