Comments on: Legal Pathway To Status For PRC Holders

By: PLP: Suspend Applications, Work On Reform | Bernews.com

PLP: Suspend Applications, Work On Reform | Bernews.com — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 17:02:08 +0000

[...] May 2014, the ruling by Chief Justice Kawaley presented a legal loophole for PRCs to obtain Bermuda status [...]

By: JUNK YARD DOG

JUNK YARD DOG — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:38:12 +0000

We do not have a million acres to sell, so ! whats your problem.

Bermuda needs to re value its real- estate.

Bermuda’s limited land availability controls
price;desirability and value at about $1,000,000.
per 1/4 acre that is if you can find it.

By: ordinary citizen

ordinary citizen — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:33:32 +0000

Well, “swing voter” it would appear to me that the PLP didn’t grasp a lot of things, and still don’t! Love how they blame the judge & current government for their careless incompetence, perhaps they’ll march on parliament!!

By: Opposition Immigration Bill Defeated In House | Bernews.com

Opposition Immigration Bill Defeated In House | Bernews.com — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 00:38:02 +0000

[...] was a recent court ruling by Chief Justice Kawaley that created a new avenue for status, for we think up to 4,000 permanent resident certificate holders in [...]

By: Sandy Bottom

Sandy Bottom — Sun, 11 May 2014 20:44:50 +0000

Welll you’re wrong. It was ALL done by the PLP.

By: James

James — Sat, 10 May 2014 10:27:55 +0000

The UBP created PRC’s as a one time thing in 98 before they left power.
They said they would never do it again.
One of the first things the PLP did was fix this issue and I thank them.
Now I would like to thank them even more!
Well done PLP!
Incidentally since getting my PRC I have started a company, (with a Bermudian) created jobs and employed many Bermudians.

By: Jim Jones

Jim Jones — Wed, 07 May 2014 17:14:47 +0000

six of one….

By: JustAskin2

JustAskin2 — Tue, 06 May 2014 23:38:16 +0000

Really? I’m pretty sure this started under the UBP.

By: Phil

Phil — Tue, 06 May 2014 17:52:59 +0000

Since the article quotes the Ministry of Home Affairs as saying Bermuda status can be granted to qualifying people who also are submitting an application to be a British Overseas Territory Citizen, it seems to me that PRCs who are already BOTCs or indeed, are British, may not be eligible to apply for Bermuda status.

If that is true then the law seems discriminatory to me and for that reason if no other, it will probably have to be looked at.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 06 May 2014 15:17:13 +0000

Didn’t think so.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 06 May 2014 15:15:57 +0000

Yes. I have.

Have you? I doubt it, considering that you seem to think that posting false personal attacks while hiding like a coward behind a fake name is “posting anything of value”.

Why not come out from behind the hood and engage me in a conversation?

Or is that too much for you?

What are you so scared of?

By: Sandy Bottom

Sandy Bottom — Tue, 06 May 2014 09:27:06 +0000

It was the PLP who did this. Get a grip.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 06 May 2014 03:32:48 +0000

“…grassroots bermudians…” meaning… what?

Care to elaborate?

By: jt

jt — Tue, 06 May 2014 03:14:35 +0000

grassroots – here we go again…..

By: jt

jt — Tue, 06 May 2014 03:10:38 +0000

They are already here – have been for a long time – aren’t going anywhere – get it? What are you so terrified of?

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 06 May 2014 01:30:47 +0000

Surprise, surprise…

“Ian” presents yet another baseless conspiracy theory designed solely to denounce the OBA and remove any fault from the PLP, completely removed from reality.

Do better, man. Seriously.

“Prepare to see anti-foreigner sentiments rise to an entirely new level…”

It’ll rise as long as folks like you, sulking ‘cuz your party lost the election, continue to stoke it with baseless conspiracies and misinformation and hate.

We deserve better than this kind of dishonesty.

By: Jo Blo

Jo Blo — Tue, 06 May 2014 01:15:22 +0000

I don’t really see what all the fuss is about. Folks are poking fun at the PLP as if they somehow dropped a ball, inherently validating an their empathy for those PLP’ers that don’t support offering status to PRC holders. And on the other side of the fence is the segment of PLP supporters that will likely take their disdain for foreigners to a new high, which will likely not bode well for the sense of well being of foreign nationals, as a whole, here. Especially considering that disdain is furthermore being fueled by struggle in bad economic times.

By: Ian

Ian — Tue, 06 May 2014 01:08:33 +0000

This is pure bs… surprise surprise a loophole for offering status to PRC holders is “presented” under the OBA’s tenure. And we now get to watch the OBA pretend to be surprised and enact a measured, thorough “consideration” of appealing. This was a judge’s judgement. And as much as these folks – likely non Bermudians – jump at the opportunity to blame the PLP, it will be the OBA that allows PRC holders to milk the heck out of this before the next election. And that won’t be something you can blame the PLP for.

Prepare to see anti-foreigner sentiments rise to a entirely new level as the OBA continues to deliver Bermuda on a silver platter to non-Bermudians…

By: JustAskin2

JustAskin2 — Tue, 06 May 2014 00:57:51 +0000

And so for all the Bermudians born and raised in Bermuda who left because they were told that they could get status… well you can come back home now.

By: Jo Blo

Jo Blo — Tue, 06 May 2014 00:56:16 +0000

you are clearly not a stable individual

By: JustAskin2

JustAskin2 — Tue, 06 May 2014 00:55:56 +0000

Uh, you are forgetting the thousands of Bermudians of West Indian and Portuguese descent, who couldn’t get status before and whom this ruling will actually be helping…

By: Jo Blo

Jo Blo — Tue, 06 May 2014 00:51:16 +0000

thats right… the small minded idiot types that don’t agree with folks like you. its what preserves your sense of superiority that many grassroots bermudians despise about people like you.

By: Build a Better Bermuda

Build a Better Bermuda — Tue, 06 May 2014 00:00:44 +0000

But the BIPA amendment of 1994 didn’t create the issue, it was the PRC legislation of 2001, and it’s authors did not know understand how their legislation would interact with the existing laws.

By: Coffee

Coffee — Mon, 05 May 2014 23:25:47 +0000

The father of the OBA , the UBP , kept this set of people like a man keeps a mistress , interested , well looked after but only good enough for a flop .The PLP , by giving the same set of people PRC status , was like giving them an expensive engagement ring but never intending to marry . Such is the state of these poor basfords .

Now the OBA have a full plate , anyway they step they’ll piss off a subset of people . I don’t envy their position .

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 05 May 2014 23:12:13 +0000

Born a PRC please ignore the small minded George and his narrow minded ignorance. We all know the type.

By: Born a PRC

Born a PRC — Mon, 05 May 2014 22:46:19 +0000

Switzerland probably isn’t the best example, granted that you are not given citizenship as a birthright, you are given the option of naturalisation at an early age.

By: blankman

blankman — Mon, 05 May 2014 22:29:31 +0000

Alvin, how will this boost Bermuda’s population? Those PRC’s are already here. It won’t bring anyone new to the island.

By: blankman

blankman — Mon, 05 May 2014 22:24:28 +0000

Jim, I think you mean “they might not vote the way I want them to”.

By: blankman

blankman — Mon, 05 May 2014 22:22:25 +0000

I think a lot of people picked up on it previously. But the previous government had amply demonstrated that it was capable of being vindictive so no-one was willing to be the test case that went before the courts.

By: Born a PRC

Born a PRC — Mon, 05 May 2014 22:19:30 +0000

I feel like you’ve taken my point and extended it beyond its logical breaking point. I pointed out that my parents were established on the island and were PRC holders when I was born, a simple requirement such as “parents must be PRC holders” would be pretty logical to establishing whether or not status could be granted. Should do away with some of your concerns regarding scamming the immigration system, while including those who contribute and feel a part of the island.

Secondly I’m actually looking for work in Bermuda at the moment and there seems to be many more opportunities in my field compared to say the UK or Australia, just a thought. By the way telling someone born and raised that they are not welcome from a young age and taking the approach of “Go to Australia or New Zealand” is pretty damning indication of some of the xenophobic attitudes I’ve come across.

By: Troll Hunter

Troll Hunter — Mon, 05 May 2014 22:16:12 +0000

You must be the biggest troll on here, have you ever posted anything of value?

By: Silence Do Good

Silence Do Good — Mon, 05 May 2014 21:40:06 +0000

oops Congratulations!

By: Silence Do Good

Silence Do Good — Mon, 05 May 2014 21:38:07 +0000

It is a requirement to become a British Overseas Territory Citizen granted by the UK not Bermuda. Not Bermuda’s Laws for BOTC the UK laws under the British Nationality Act 1981. You would be surprised how many people actually qualify for BOTC and do not realize it. Thanks to the PLP changes to the immigrations act and the recent judgement, if you qualify as a BOTC you qualify for Bermudian Status. Have at it, anyone born here or lived here without immigration control for the last five years. bermuda needs the population. Your home is now your real home, congradulations and welcome to Bermuda.

By: Looking for Leadership

Looking for Leadership — Mon, 05 May 2014 21:35:48 +0000

“It would appear the previous Government did not grasp the fact that provisions in the BIPA that were amended in 1994 would have this effect upon introduction of the PRC legislation in 2001.”

It would appear that the PLP weren’t the only one’s who missed it. Seems like everyone else did too!

But the CJ has made a really really weird ruling here that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense!

By: Kathy

Kathy — Mon, 05 May 2014 21:04:30 +0000

I disagree with this. There are many friends who have lived in Bermuda since they were small children and they don’t qualify for Status or PRC. How does this make it fair? Most of these PRC holders came here as adults. The only PRC holders who should be granted status are those who were born in Bermuda!!!

By: Kangoocar

Kangoocar — Mon, 05 May 2014 20:58:38 +0000

Coffee, is that really you??? If so, you have seen the light finally!!! All joking aside, I totally agree with you!!

By: Kangoocar

Kangoocar — Mon, 05 May 2014 20:53:08 +0000

Alvin, you are actually saying that ” there was those in the plp, that was afraid to make the tuff decisions??” This coming from you is laughable at best, the toughest decision you ever had to make was, ” deciding which mailbox was the correct one for you to put an envelope in that had the address on it!!” The plp this time in my opinion actually did the correct thing, not surprisingly though, it was done because of another error they caused!!! Anyway I am totally happy at the fact that those who have contributed all these years to BDA can finally get their status and now many of them will feel that they too should buy homes and invest their money in BDA, it is a win win for everyone except the plp because I am fairly confident I know where most of their votes will go!!! Thank you plp!!!!

By: Jim Jones

Jim Jones — Mon, 05 May 2014 20:35:37 +0000

This particular issue will not boost Bermuda’s population. The only thing that will change is that PRC’s that have been here since 1989 will get the right to vote. This is what terrifies the PLP and its support base.

By: Coffee

Coffee — Mon, 05 May 2014 20:20:12 +0000

Bermuda wins . If they could buy any piece of property , there’s plenty for sale . Most are coming up for retirement and will soon be pensioned off … That money will stay here . If children are involved , then surely those offspring will , support the parent (s) . Do the right thing OBA , give these people full status .

Pre ’89ers , welcome on board .

By: Watcher55

Watcher55 — Mon, 05 May 2014 20:08:47 +0000

That’s a stupid statement, of course they should apply, or should we just give them passports, driving licenses, bank accounts etc without application…should just be granted……must be the English thought process, the right to be….

By: jt

jt — Mon, 05 May 2014 20:02:53 +0000

Or…Alvin…if we value the meaningful contributions of these people to our economy and society we allow this PLP mistake to stand. The rest we continue to clean up.

By: nuffin but the truth

nuffin but the truth — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:55:07 +0000

” the previous Government did not grasp the fact….”

LMAO!! the defunct plp didnt grasp any facts,they only knew how to spend other people’s money!

By: J Herald

J Herald — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:49:02 +0000

Yes hearty congratulations to the PLP. They laid the groundwork all those years ago for a truly great moment in our history. The moment when Bermuda did something right. And here we thought PLP were those people who poured all our money down the drain and moaned about white people. Now in a true gesture of humanity they are letting a load of them in here. PLP on this day you should be proud. I know I am.

Of the thousand or so people who will get Status, maybe you’ll get one or two votes. Maybe three. No probably not. Screwing PRC’s with the housing licence thing probably wasn’t the smartest move huh?

How’s it working for you now PLP? I imagine you are feeling rather foolish.

By: J Herald

J Herald — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:32:56 +0000

One thing absolutely everybody knows is that PLP will admit no wrong doing since they never do – never have done.

I’m sure the folks who get Status as a result of this will return the favour and vote PLP in the next election. Well, in your dreams anyway.

At the end of the day this is the right thing to do – so we can all rest assured that PLP had a hand in doing something good without reward. Guess there’s a first time and all that.

By: anon

anon — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:29:04 +0000

We’ve all been waiting for your usual xenophobic response. Damn foreigners, cause of all your problems and it they weren’t here, everyone would have $ in the Bank and the job of their dreams. Heck Al, you could be CEO of XL if there were no foreigners, right?

By: Serengeti

Serengeti — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:27:36 +0000

At last. There is an achievement of which the PLP can be proud.

By: DarkSideofTheMoon

DarkSideofTheMoon — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:26:54 +0000

I don’t understand why people think that this is bringing new people….these people are already in Bermuda and are a part of our economy. They are not “fresh meat”

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:18:44 +0000

As a PLP supporter I am not afraid to put the blame in this case clearly on the shoulders of the former PLP government. there has always been an element within the PLP who were really afraid to govern and take those those tough decisions; unless you are talking about former premier Browne who had to face censure from within his own party. But the important question now is what this OBA government is going to do. It has already made it clear that it would like to boost Bermuda’s population and even if it claims that it is considering a legal challenge; this ruling has in fact handed it a golden opportunity to do just that and that is to boost Bermuda’s population and blame the former PLP government’s slackness; for if it claims that it’s hands are tied than it would have just that easy to let matters take it’s course. But if it really was concern about protecting Bermuda’s borders than all it has to do is change the Bermuda’s immigration law well within it’s realm.

By: enough

enough — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:05:55 +0000

I think that this is a good thing for Bermuda. Yes, the PLP do deserve credit for bringing this about.

By: J Herald

J Herald — Mon, 05 May 2014 19:01:40 +0000

Why don’t we all admit that the whole PRC thing simply didn’t work and that we should have stayed with the Status thing all along since 1989 and given it to a small amount of people each year (it was 40 I believe). The PRC’s who will be able to get Status are already here – so the only impact will be the pathetic moaning from the PLP. Please note that the PLP would have moaned about whatever was today’s news because that’s all they ever do.

PLP – Moaning Strong In the Community.