Comments on: Political Row Over “JetGate” Incident Continues

By: X man

X man — Sun, 18 May 2014 13:36:30 +0000

So true — it ‘s only fair’
There is no law – what a Political Party must reaveal.

By: Valirie Marcia Akinstall

Valirie Marcia Akinstall — Sat, 17 May 2014 17:00:45 +0000

@Heybye

And based on your logic I thank God that I understand very little of your business world dealings.

Insults is not debating, but I shall humbly and happily remain mute on your business opinions.

London, England

By: Ride

Ride — Fri, 16 May 2014 20:17:45 +0000

Well, it would appear that Cannonier and the OBA have some serious explaining to do.

It would seem the “put up” has been chosen.

Ride

By: HeyBye

HeyBye — Fri, 16 May 2014 06:16:34 +0000

Until someone commits to a deal there is no deal.
For the Jet owner,the expense of using the jet is a business tax right off against his capital gains tax.
So both parties benefit.
Maybe you do not know how business works.

Hamilton, Bermuda !!

By: HeyBye

HeyBye — Fri, 16 May 2014 06:11:05 +0000

Oh shut up.
A know it all from London!!

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Thu, 15 May 2014 13:57:12 +0000

He need not go on any TV show…Why? because he has stated all he needs / must state…There is NO Law saying he is compelled to say anymore. U’lot need to “stop floggin’ a dead horse”

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Thu, 15 May 2014 13:53:18 +0000

If it soooo serious, then for Christ sake, why haven’t the Progressive Labour Party been investigated for all their “short comings” etc?

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Thu, 15 May 2014 13:28:07 +0000

There is NO LAW/S stating he must admit to anything…No Political Party must reveal where / who they’ve or are receiving financial support from! If so, then the Progressive Labour Party should lay their cards face-up and reveal some of (if not all) of the skeletons in their closets!

By: Valirie Marcia Akinstall

Valirie Marcia Akinstall — Thu, 15 May 2014 12:56:37 +0000

@Heavens…

In fairness, the subject-matter is the article above.

Do not deflect and there is no need to divert attention onto another matter.

In my humble opinion, this matter will soon lose its sensationalistic sting as the Government moves forward on how they intend to deal with casino gaming in Bermuda, in other words, by legislation or by referendum, and I humbly prefer the latter.

London, England

By: Valirie Marcia Akinstall

Valirie Marcia Akinstall — Thu, 15 May 2014 12:47:03 +0000

Have you thought through what you just wrote?

If there was no donation, it’s perfectly logical and correct that they have no knowledge of it as it does not exist.

This matter was brought to Mr Hollis’ attention via Ayo Johnson’s article, hence the reason why the OBA is investigating the matter.

London, England

By: Heavens

Heavens — Thu, 15 May 2014 12:31:45 +0000

Ask Alvin about Pay to Play…. maybe Ayo could investigate what promises were made to Jumeirah Hotel Group and who got paid what for that little fiasco too….

By: Serengeti

Serengeti — Thu, 15 May 2014 11:56:20 +0000

If there was no donation in the first place, it isn’t ‘strange’ that OBA party officials don’t know about it.

By: Valirie Marcia Akinstall

Valirie Marcia Akinstall — Thu, 15 May 2014 10:49:55 +0000

@HeyBye

There is no such thing as a free lunch…

If you do not know or do not understand the sophistication of government business or the unshackled power of the ruling Party then thank God you are not a Member of Parliament representing Bermuda, nor Minister in the Cabinet.

I sincerely hope not…

London, England

By: Valirie Marcia Akinstall

Valirie Marcia Akinstall — Thu, 15 May 2014 10:38:59 +0000

I will take Al Williams point that it is strange that a donation of $300K is not readily known to OBA party officials. Transparently put, it has either gone through the OBA bank account or not, cash or cheque.

And speculatively speaking, from viewing the tape of Thad Hollis’ press conference, why use the word “investigate?” That was an odd choice of words, you simple had to enquire to confirm or deny that the OBA received or did not receive the funds.

Again speculatively speaking, there appears to be a division within the OBA ranks (and I have been given that impression based upon what was revealed at the press conference). However, whatever the final report reveals, it is an INTERNAL report from which Mr Hollis will inform the public on the status of the $300K donation.

The OBA needs to resolve the issue and move on. If there are internal battles brewing – such as two camps within the Party – based upon the results of the internal report, please make clear, decisive, swift and positive changes so that the Party can re-focus on rebuilding a strong economic environment in Bermuda.

London, England

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Thu, 15 May 2014 03:13:29 +0000

Amazing! You really don’t see the irony of your posts on this page, do you? You really can’t see the hypocrisy, can you?

Amazing.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Thu, 15 May 2014 03:10:57 +0000

Wow.

You just don’t care about the truth, do you? Like, at all?

How is anyone supposed to have a serious conversation with you, if you’re just going to outright lie like this?
“This is alot (sic) more than a “free plane ride”", just so you know, is an allegation… That you have not, nor can you, I don’t think, prove. Care to prove me wrong?

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Thu, 15 May 2014 03:06:31 +0000

This is a fact, is it?

(Pssst! That’s not what that word means!)

What this is is just yet another bit of baseless, factless, reality-less smear from an obviously increasingly desperate Mr Williams.

Please do better.

By: Argument

Argument — Thu, 15 May 2014 02:13:25 +0000

$800 million missing in the PLP years! Zero missing in OBA years and no evidence that any money was taken “even if it was allegedly asked for” . However, you can overlook $800 million to look for the truth about zero money that was taken that was allegedly asked for according to one anonymous source according to a PLP supporter and Independent “journalist” that charges you $3 for the privilege of reading his story? What am I missing here?

By: Argument

Argument — Thu, 15 May 2014 02:09:33 +0000

Does any working person even listen to those crappy shows!

By: Barracuda

Barracuda — Thu, 15 May 2014 01:29:12 +0000

Wont happen.

By: HeyBye

HeyBye — Wed, 14 May 2014 23:58:14 +0000

Creating an imaginary scandal,when there is none.
If anyone has an opportunity to hitch a ride on a private jet to get to a meeting to handle the peoples business and save tax payer money,please do it again.

By: luke

luke — Wed, 14 May 2014 22:28:35 +0000

Gary Moreno, see if the premiers manager who hitched a ride has anything to say .

By: Ride

Ride — Wed, 14 May 2014 22:22:12 +0000

What I am saying is produce the evidence or go home. It’s been months.

Come on, be sensible. If the PLP had something they would have crucified him with it by now. Then called for a vote of no confidence. And finished up with a call for a ballot on his constituency.

I’m operating with the information available. No evidence but continued accusation. You seem to be operating on no evidence for months but I believe he is guilty so let’s keep accusing him.

At some point you have to put up or shut up.

Ride

By: Bermuda Boy

Bermuda Boy — Wed, 14 May 2014 22:07:59 +0000

If the PLP win this jet gate mess and anyone steps down, I will vote PLP next election.

By: Redman

Redman — Wed, 14 May 2014 21:35:49 +0000

@ 1minute, We live in hope but we all know this is clearly another smokescreen aimed at getting people to forget their many alleged abuses of the public purse. Except that the piggy bank is empty due to the PLP’s shenanigans.

I wish the PLP had been half as vociferous over Bda Housing Corp, Berkley and on and on… Luckily for the PLP back then the bulk of the electorate where either micing or just too silly to understand what was being perpetrated all in the name of ‘its our turn’ (as if it was benefiting them, the dummies).

Despite the warning from many of us it seems too many sat by in silence and watched the financial rape of Bermuda under the PLP because they felt it didn’t affect them. As if it was someone else’s money.

Now that the moneys all gone & many jobs with it Well now those same silent ones can feel!!

By: Redman

Redman — Wed, 14 May 2014 21:17:54 +0000

@ Impressive …None of the allegations against him where proven if I recall correctly,

yes and none of these allegations have been proven either, yet this premiere is being labelled as…

Get it yet? I doubt it!

Yawns, turns the page.

By: Redman

Redman — Wed, 14 May 2014 21:09:31 +0000

Political Row Over “JetGate” Incident Continues

Yawn!!

Policeman To Crowd: “…move along nothing to see here…”

By: Impressive

Impressive — Wed, 14 May 2014 20:46:12 +0000

How are you so certain that there is no evidence?? or is that what you really really believe, or want to be the case.

By: Impressive

Impressive — Wed, 14 May 2014 20:43:05 +0000

haha Mike,, good day my friend. The only “allegations” I have made on this site repeatedly is that Premier Craig is not fit to be the leader of my country. Note, I said the Premier and not his party. I will not call this an allegation, but more an opinion on what I have seen thus far. As far as having it proven, stay tuned sir.

By: TICKED OFF

TICKED OFF — Wed, 14 May 2014 20:20:17 +0000

i guess NEITHER party the PLP in particular give a crap about getting on with the PEOPLES BUSINESS and GET TO WORK FOR WHICH YOU ARE ALL PAID TO MUCH FOR!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a life and get TO WORK> Lots of promises from BOTH sides and NO I REPEAT NO SUBSTANTIVE ACTION !!!!!!!!!!!! WE the people that put you bALL there are getting tired and pissed off tav the lack of ACTION!!!!!!!!!!

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Wed, 14 May 2014 20:05:52 +0000

In looking at the blogs and all the attempts of OBA supporters to deflect from the fact that the OBA ship has struck the rocks and is about to take the government down with it. I suggest that they abandon ship as I am sure that the captain has plans to do just that.

By: Alvin Williams

Alvin Williams — Wed, 14 May 2014 19:56:40 +0000

Well would be investor Mr. Landow is no longer a factor in who is going to built the new casino/hotel at the East end; the premier announce on national TV. Who can blame him with all this smoke surrounding the issue or should I say fire; perhaps he decided the whole idea is not worth it?
The premier did not seem too upset that an potential investor who was greeted with so much enthusiasm in the early stage is no longer in the picture. Maybe he is glad to see the back of him given all the allegations surrounding Jet-gate?
Interesting though in regard to the $ 300;000 campaign donation alleged to have been donated to the OBA? That is stated to have not taken place? Than why is the OBA chairman to mount a so-called internal investigation over the suppose non-existent $ 300;000 political donation?
I suspect that the recent OBA meeting and the speculation that there is the existence of two camps in that party; this may very well had being the one concession extracted from one or the other faction in the OBA government. The premier stated that what happen in those meetings will remain behind close doors; but like the kettle on the stove once it gets hot enough than the steam rises and than we might even hear a whistle.

By: Serengeti

Serengeti — Wed, 14 May 2014 19:12:24 +0000

I’d like to know who really profited from Grand Atlantic. There was no reason to build the ugly buggers. Someone made out like a bandit.

By: Looking in

Looking in — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:53:58 +0000

I’m going to The Playboy Mansion!

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:53:21 +0000

So… allegations need to be proven now?

This is a new thing for you!

By: nuffin but the truth

nuffin but the truth — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:31:30 +0000

the defunct and useless plp get drunk on that green kool aid they get stuck on stupid.

By: Dragging A Lure

Dragging A Lure — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:23:05 +0000

@ LOL,
When you resort to disparaging name calling when the view is different from yours certainly demonstrates your mentality. I’ll leave it at that.

By: Mile High Club

Mile High Club — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:22:03 +0000

They (Lanlow) didn’t even submit a proposal on time!!!!!!!!

By: Mile High Club

Mile High Club — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:20:40 +0000

Lets not forget.
Bda Cement Co
Coco Reef
Whites Island
Dame Lois Bldg
Bda Emissions
$800 million of public funds missing

By: Mile High Club

Mile High Club — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:19:01 +0000

He , who has the best lawyer wins! The truth has very little to do with it.

By: Ride

Ride — Wed, 14 May 2014 18:15:49 +0000

But there is evidence to rebut the not guilty plea to or the case would not be before the courts. This is an allegation without evidence.

What don’t you understand?

Ride

By: Dragging A Lure

Dragging A Lure — Wed, 14 May 2014 17:50:08 +0000

The JetGate debacle did not have cost attached to travel and accommodations, but it certainly had a price attached to our jurisdiction of a Government based on creditability,honesty and fairness and not to sell our souls for a free trip and a first class hotel. You can’t measure that cost. So stop acting like an id**t.

By: JustAskin2

JustAskin2 — Wed, 14 May 2014 17:20:49 +0000

Who cares about Dr. Brown? We’re talking about JegGate…

By: JustAskin2

JustAskin2 — Wed, 14 May 2014 17:17:00 +0000

Maybe the Premier has a few things to hide…

By: Impressive

Impressive — Wed, 14 May 2014 17:05:40 +0000

and here starts the name calling and childish behaviour.. smdh

By: Impressive

Impressive — Wed, 14 May 2014 17:02:33 +0000

ummmm yes.. None of the allegations against him where proven if I recall correctly, but he is still being labeled as such.

Nevertheless, I am not here to lift up one to bring down the other, the point I am making is that wrong is wrong and right is right.

By: Impressive

Impressive — Wed, 14 May 2014 16:56:35 +0000

all the rationale in your own mind doesnt change the fact that you are talking foolishness. Since when did a defendant be allowed to be the jury in their own case??

Judge – On behalf of the prosecution, you have been charged with the charge of murder, how to you plea?

Defendant – Not Guilty your honor, I didnt do it and these allegations are false.

Jury – Yeap he is not guilty, he said it himself.

Judge – Your free to go your man.

Hmmmm i wonder why lawyers charge so much an hour.

By: LOL (Original TM*)

LOL (Original TM*) — Wed, 14 May 2014 16:51:26 +0000

Again Dr Brown did not tell the peple about government business.. but I know you know that…..

MAWI this guy is out again why you letting this guy out he is completly crazy

LOL

By: LOL (Original TM*)

LOL (Original TM*) — Wed, 14 May 2014 16:49:43 +0000

Dont care about it didnt cost us a thing..

LOL

By: LOL (Original TM*)

LOL (Original TM*) — Wed, 14 May 2014 16:45:10 +0000

Why where yo ever “honest” about Dr, Brown time?

LOL