Comments on: Video: Mandatory Carding Effective October 1

By: d

Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:52:57 +0000

Yeah then they add you on instagram and Facebook

By: sswhite

sswhite — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:46:58 +0000

If you are truly a free thinker Creamy then you’d understand that “education” is potentially THE WORST THING you could do to your child. All “education’ does is create more “copper tops” for the system to perpetuate its perverse self……

By: Come On Man

Come On Man — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:34:41 +0000

what’s next produce your birth certificate? LoL! What happen to the parents,more baby sitting by the government. Ridiculous!

By: Come On Man

Come On Man — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:30:15 +0000

Realtalk you hit the nail on the head. He’s giving the appearance that he is doing something when there’s a system already in place that just needs to be implemented More BS from your local politricster.

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:36:50 +0000

@ Peggy Burns. The answer is when / if someone is selling or giving alcohol to minors, whether they be a licensed venue or not, the person, people in charge / owner will be taken before the Courts…
To make it simply. If an individual is caught drunk or gets into a fight and is not only under the influence but also under age then that’s where the police step in with finding out (if possible) how the individual got hold of the alcohol.

By: Lol smileyface

Lol smileyface — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:14:07 +0000

Back when I was 16, so many years ago, I had no problem getting in to a club and buying drinks. I thought at the time (though I know better now) that I looked at least 20, but in hindsight people didn’t care, they just wanted to make a liquor sale. I’m saying that to say, in order for laws to actually work, they have to be enforced. This is a nice photo op for the milkman, but I wonder how many 16 or 17 year olds are still going to be able to go to the club and get tapped. Lol. Do they even still say that? I’m showing my age now!

By: Newly Optimistic Bermudian

Newly Optimistic Bermudian — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:54:35 +0000

Plenty

By: But...

But... — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:31:01 +0000

I walked straight in Beach last night, no ID required and so did a host of other ladies behind me. We are all 19+ mind you, but just sayin’

By: Justin T

Justin T — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:24:36 +0000

Mandatory carding if asked…back when I was 17 I already had a good bit of facial hair and I use to drink at Flanagan’s all the time never got carded I guess because I looked older. Nice to see other establishments supporting although I’m not sure how many young folks drink at Warwick Workmen’s.

By: Peggy Burns

Peggy Burns — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:17:02 +0000

Self,

On that note, I hope you didn’t empty your jeans pocket.

By: Peggy Burns

Peggy Burns — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:11:29 +0000

Raymond Ray you are ultra understanding when it comes to EVERYTHING your OBA Government does, and quite the opposite with the Government in waiting–you know who that is. Will ALL licensed premises exercise the same vigilance, diligence and work closely with the men and women in blue when it comes to the minors of guest visitors? How will social gatherings/functions held in/at unlicensed venues: residential weddings, birthday celebrations, funeral wakes, etc. be monitored–under an islandwide, Uncle Michael-is-always-watching-hawkeyesystem?

My gut tells me that there is something more to this carding system than can be pinpointed at this time (perhaps we will all understand why in the sweet by and by). The simple solution to these destructive vices is down the booze and out the cigarettes (fool at one end and fire at the other).

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:08:04 +0000

Tru dat!

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:03:28 +0000

Typo: I couldn’t help it etc.

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:02:22 +0000

I could help it…Te-hee-heeee!

By: Peggy Burns

Peggy Burns — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:54:25 +0000

Attention: HeLovesTheCamera,

The cattle man is just biding time–hoping to be quickened with the milk of knowledge and understanding of real leadership and just how to pasteurize it. For him, it hasn’t happened and isn’t going to and so, for the time being, we are suffering through his vacillating. Must say he tries, but clearly he is a man operating the political vehicle with a defective GPS system, and many of us–his passengers are agonizing over where his ride is taking us. He overcompensates for his lack by maintaining the appearance of constructive busyness which hasn’t amounted to a damn thing–zero, zilch, nought. It is time for change for REAL LEADERSHIP on this island. I know what stands in the way, and if I were the almighty it would be removed pronto.

By: Real talk(original)

Real talk(original) — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:46:35 +0000

Smoke and mirrors my friend. The legislation merely permits licensees to examine the ID of any person “who appears to be a minor”.

This already happens and it is already an offence to provide alcohol to anybody under the age of 18.

This really changes nothing while lending the appearance of doing something.

Still is not mandatory carding as the test is a very subjective one.

By: coolieh

coolieh — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:55:05 +0000

Nanny state!

Need to find another island to live on! Too many rules!

What’s democracy anyway? Oh, that’s right…living by someone else’s rules. Over zealous nuts!

Good old days gone!

Smiths

By: Mr.Speaker

Mr.Speaker — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:53:18 +0000

If they not 18 they shoudnt be in clubs period.

By: Rick Olson

Rick Olson — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:25:37 +0000

Reponsible operators have always enforced a strict carding policy and we certainly do at Bermuda Bistro @ the Beach ans we are open to 3am nightly 363 days a year. We value our liqueur license and our relationship with the police and yes we sometimes have problems late night due to the nature of the business we are in . The focus should be on the one or two rogue licensed establishment that paints us all bad but more importantly the real problem are the parents that leave no idea what their children are doing especially late night when Bermuda is not safe especially for young female.
IMO opinion increased scrutiny should be on events where a temporarily liqueur license is issued for a one off event as that is where I see several violations .

By: Kim Smith

Kim Smith — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:05:20 +0000

You know, sometimes we sound less intelligent that I’m sure we are! Measures like this one are put in place to help. What would really help is if each one of us could act responsibly and in our own best interest. When we’re talking about cannabis reform everyone is up in arms about how terrible alcohol is for you (compared to weed) and then when the focus is put on alcohol, people want to get all weird like the government’s trying to hold you down or something equally ridiculous. We don’t need their help… we hold ourselves down every single day… just read the comments section of news articles. What’s missing for me in the article is how they will enforce this. It makes no sense to put rules in place unless you are willing and able to enforce them… with sensible, natural consequences would be ideal.

By: Self

Self — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:53:19 +0000

It has to be used within reason. I had a very heated ‘debate’ with an over zealous bartender at a local east end bar. He didn’t want to serve me a drink because I didn’t have my I.D. on me (I left my wallet at home and had stuffed a fifty dollar bill in my jeans pocket).
I asked him, “Come on, you can’t tell I’m over eighteen?” His response was, “I don’t know that.” Mind you, I’m forty-five years old and a grandmother so I should have taken this as a compliment, but come on! Common sense should prevail.

By: Self

Self — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:51:06 +0000

It has to be used within reason. I had a very heated ‘debate’ with an over zealous bartender at a local east end bar. He didn’t want to serve me a drink because I didn’t have my I.D. on me (I left my wallet at home and had stuffed a fifty dollar bill in my jeans pocket).
I asked him, “Are you kidding me, you can’t tell I’m over eighteen?” His response was, “I don’t know that.” Mind you, I’m forty-five years old and a grandmother so I should have taken this as a compliment, but come on! Common sense should prevail.

By: Not true ,,,,

Not true ,,,, — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:17:30 +0000

You’d be surprised at how many places in the US card everybody, no exceptions, regardless of how old they look.

You’d also be surprised how many places in the US won’t accept out of state drivers licenses either.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:47:40 +0000

Kind of like someone with a permit to be a reverend, who ends up organising marches and running a quasi-political party?

By: James Rego

James Rego — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:46:17 +0000

Enforcement of the law is always the weakest link.

By: Kunta

Kunta — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:09:46 +0000

I hope I don’t need a card when I drive through these Private Estate roads !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Your joking

Your joking — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:13:18 +0000

Look….this is all a joke….if you want to stop underage drinking in Bermuda…..the minor when caught in a bar or with fake ID he/she will do one year community service and will pick up trash on weekends for the year….Bang underage people in Bars stops……to stop drunk driving a $5000 fine and a $2500 for passengers if being driven by drunk driver…….second offense…jail time……end of drunk driving(or serious decline at least)

By: Derek A. G. Jones

Derek A. G. Jones — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:14:43 +0000

He’s not lying. When we took my brother out for his first ‘legal’ drink in Boston he was fine. My father on the other hand didn’t have his drivers license or passport with him and couldn’t be served according to the restaurant manager. And to make matters worse it was his 70th birthday! To make matters worse we found out there were half a dozen German tourists who met the same fate and complained to the concierge back at the hotel. Needless to say the restaurant has lost a lot of potential business.

By: sage

sage — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:01:35 +0000

Great job Premier, recycling a prison jump suit into a tie and short shorts, nice touch fiscal prudence!

By: more than enough

more than enough — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:23:09 +0000

This is an effort to appear to be doing something.
This changes nothing.
Is this really the results of a forward thinking leader and his highly paid partners in crime?
There must be a little more bang for the buck than this, I, for one, definitely think we deserve more.
The fact that they claim to be only now getting around to allegedly enforcing these laws speaks to their inadequacies.
Reminds me of the bta moving toward digital now…that took a whole team of high paid execs. how long to come up with this? In this digital age? Give yourselves a raise! more $$$ bieng flushed down the toilet.
Where’s the accountability? Or is that only applied to those at the lower end of the ladder?

By: positivity

positivity — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:55:54 +0000

I wonder if they are going to spot check bars. Some establishments may be about the money so they won’t be strict about requesting. Personally, less kids in the bars is ok with me.

By: Newly Optimistic Bermudian

Newly Optimistic Bermudian — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:30:40 +0000

From what i can see
The max fine is $500-.”commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding $500.”;the fine is for the astablishment.
I cannot see any fine for the person consumiming underage?
So i read it as this all falls on the astablishment and nothing happens to the underage individuals even if they use fake ID!
It also says in section 3 (b) (ii) “in subsection (1) “no licenced person shall employ in the licensed premises a person who is under the age of eighteen years” and substituting “no licensed person shall employ a minor in a licensed
premises
No one under 18 can work in any capacidy if the establishmet?
So students working in supermarkets/and others are included?
Bernews, please attach a copy of the ammendment for all your readers to read. Thanks
BERMUDA LIQUOR LICENCE AMENDMENT ACT 2014

By: Observant

Observant — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:00:14 +0000

You are a liar. Smdh. A man with one foot in the grave would never get carded!

By: sage

sage — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 00:58:29 +0000

http://www.aa.org!

By: Free Thinker

Free Thinker — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 00:21:07 +0000

Card or no card, I need someone to reference one study that shows, this reduced drinking by Minors. Alcohol and drugs are readily available to all who wants to use them, no matter where in the world you are, even in Iran, where the sentence is death. This is just politicians being politicians. The only thing that has ever proven to work is education.

By: LeRocher

LeRocher — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:47:00 +0000

While the Hon. M.Dunkley,M.P. is handing out ID cards, I’d like for him to go a bit further and hand out Immigrations Card to all guest workers in the island to ensure that they are doing the work they were HIRED to perform. This is beneficial to Bermudians as well as guest workers whose unscrupulous bosses make them do work that is NOT on their immigration paperwork. (Nuff said)

By: Mr.Speaker

Mr.Speaker — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:16:51 +0000

Guess all the kiddies gonna have to buy ids to get in the beach nights now.

By: C

Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:12:03 +0000

Halifax is tough also. Under 19 in a bar after 9 pm is not accepted you are asked politely to leave unless restaurant is in a seperate part if the establishment. And they ask for ID

By: Next

Next — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:11:01 +0000

I can’t stand this. They always ask for mine knowing damn well I’m older than 18 but the male bouncers at the doors just want to see your I.D. to be nosy.

By: Archie

Archie — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:00:07 +0000

When I was a teenager I got carded just to enter a club. And it was always the law to not serve alcohol to anyone under 18. When did that law change? Why is this suddenly news after 20+ years at least???

By: tom cooke

tom cooke — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:55:32 +0000

I went to a wedding in Baltimore, and I went to a bar with an uncle of my wife’s, I bought the 1st round and was carded I was 50 at the time, the uncle who was 60 + was carded when buying the 2nd round. .. go figure. ..

By: Get hip

Get hip — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:46:34 +0000

“If it’s requested” sounds ridiculous, that should be the procedure period! I am almost 30 but have a young appearance and they will card me before a 17 year old with the right parts! If this was the US, you could have a walking stick and they would card you regardless! SMH

By: Malachi

Malachi — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:42:51 +0000

Why has it taken this long??

Having lived in Georgia, where “carding” is mandatory (in addition to a Host Liquor Liability Act), I have always wondered why we are reluctant to have our own such laws.

By: Keepin' it Real!...4Real!

Keepin' it Real!...4Real! — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:37:45 +0000

I don’t give a ratzazz what transpires in your “Other” parts of the world…if i attempt to purchase alcohol and i am asked by employee for ID…i shall in turn ask for theirs…because if you look at ME and think that i may be underage ,then YOU are legally blind or too inept to even be out of your house unsupervised…then you can keep whatever it is you sell, coz i will never buy it.

ps…when carded make sure you cover your name and address…SHOW PICTURE AND THE PLACE OF ISSUE AND DATE OF BIRTH ONLY…because when you think about it ,those are the ONLY 3 things in question here…yes??

By: watchfuleyes

watchfuleyes — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:34:12 +0000

I mean really, someone just thought of this??? In College over 20 years ago you could not get into a club or bar without showing an ID. This should have been policy all this time. I am not surprised because no one is serious about stopping drinking on this Island. Bermudians love to drink!!!

By: Creamy

Creamy — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:27:10 +0000

Yep.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:26:55 +0000

The amendment does 4 things Rhonda. Try reading them.

By: Terry

Terry — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:17:29 +0000

Bermuda follows American laws.

Hell, they carded my Father when he was 90 years old.
Assinine.

Hello.

By: Cow Polly

Cow Polly — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:15:23 +0000

Fluorescent matching ties and shorts are not cool Mr Premier

By: Keepin' it Real!...4Real!

Keepin' it Real!...4Real! — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:15:14 +0000

dont worry DK…its gunna be lottsa mandatory comin…HA HA HAAAAA!