Comments on: America’s Cup ACBDA Board Members Named

By: Self

Self — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:37:16 +0000

That’s not the point I was making. My point related to Creamy’s statement that a 24 year old’s knowledge is on video games. That was unfair as there are many people that age that are professionals. My 24 year old has done and seen more at her age than some sixty year olds have seenin a lifetime. I wwouldn’t expect a 24 year old to sit on this board, but Creamy’s comment was plain silly.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:32:54 +0000

No, the silly comments were Mase, who thinks the AC should be handled by people with no experience. Because they have “cultural relevance” whatever the eff that is supposed to mean.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:29:39 +0000

Anyone doing something pro bono still draws their normal salary. A lawyer doing pro bono work still gets paid by his firm.

By: Everytime you hear...

Everytime you hear... — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:11:17 +0000

Educated and knowledgeable are two different things. Unfortunately lots of jobs require their applicants to be able to hit the ground running. Your average educated 20+ is still working on amassing that experience. My guess is that these positions’ tasks will include little time for hand holding as there is so much to do. 2017 will be here before you know it and with so much at stake; I totally understand the need to put emphasis on people with applicable experience in the tasks required.

By: Self

Self — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:21:10 +0000

Would have gotten fired in.the real world.

By: sounds right

sounds right — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:02:46 +0000

The board is working for free. Promoting BDA’s interests. I’m sure there they would let you volunteer for something as well, then you can get rich like the other volunteers. (I hope you get the sarcasm in that sentence)

If you can’t figure out a way to make some money on AC then you’re the dumby

By: sounds right

sounds right — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:59:19 +0000

That’s one person out of the board.

By: Triangle Drifter

Triangle Drifter — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:52:39 +0000

That does not answer the question but the assumption is that, yes, she IS getting paid by the taxpayer even though she is NOT doing Government work.

Nice to be getting paid anyway but even more telling is that it looks like she is not that busy with regular work if there is time for a secondary position somewhere else.

By: Spectator

Spectator — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:49:21 +0000

Correct. To be absolutely precise, all the Board members except Jasmin Smith are serving pro bono. Jasmin, who played a critical role in the bid process, will continue on her government salary.

By: Self

Self — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:58:21 +0000

Nobody is beating up on her. It’s just amazing how when people mess up, they just get switched to another lucrative position. In the real world they would be fired. Irrelevant’s comment says it all.

By: Self

Self — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:56:38 +0000

@ Creamy
No it is not. If she if seconded to another dept, she is still getting paid. This just becomes part of her work duties. She’s not doing it for free.

By: Self

Self — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:49:23 +0000

Silly comment. My daughter is 24 (25 in a couple months) and has a Master’s Degree. I don’t think she has ever played a video game in her life.
Obviously, at that age they don’t have a lot of wordly experience but many are well educated. Your comment is generalizing, stereotyping, and sounds quite ridiculous.

By: ya mama

ya mama — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:12:16 +0000

They arent working for bermuda they’ll get richer whilst the rest of us stay poor.

you think they’re doing this for the love of bermuda?

You think their services will be free or even cheap?

Wayadumb?

The forty thrives ride again

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:14:34 +0000

Dec 2012 cant believe 2 years of S!@# slipped by so fast.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:49:35 +0000

Yes it is.

By: brian smith

brian smith — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:58:16 +0000

Accepting the offer from ren re is benefiting a local land lord. Ren re don’t own the space they are donating, they are paying a local landlord!!!

By: Irrelevant

Irrelevant — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:43:39 +0000

Jasmin Smith and Billy Griffith presided over the decline of our `tourism product for over 10 years, he is now gone and so should she

By: Cardine Alice

Cardine Alice — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:39:38 +0000

They are receiving a salary, seconded or otherwise. That’s not pro bono.

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:41:30 +0000

Friends and family and surrogates.

By: Bermuda123

Bermuda123 — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:30:10 +0000

Stop beating up on Jasmin Smith. Would you prefer that the Ministry had no representative on the Board?

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:59:08 +0000

You evidently don’t understand the idea behind pro bono.

They’re doing it voluntarily and for no payment. Of course it will involve work during working hours.

Just like union meetings are during working hours.

It’s like talking to children sometimes.

By: BTCHECKER

BTCHECKER — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:46:59 +0000

oh ok you and Agatha are the same person – I did not realise this.

Anyway re-read my post you haven’t dealt with any of the points. Main one being there is no way the AC can up their game. They are a new entity who are actively seeking Bermudian employees, and are clearly getting their message out through multiple media outlets.

You on the other hand deflect by saying these responses are personal attacks show a lack of empathy and criticise the AC for not including everyone. Well we don’t know you personally so that is nonsense, I have empathy for all those in San diego who won’t get the benefit of AC35, and you comment about inclusiveness is utterly ridiculous. They literally started recuiretment a week ago. You are jumping to preconceived prejudices which lance through every single one of your posts. hopefully members of the AC are too busy recruiting bermudians to read your comments and their taint on the rest of us.

This is not my last post on the subject – it also makes me hungry.

By: Spectator

Spectator — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:17:30 +0000

It helps to read the release: “Jasmin was the key Government representative on Bermuda’s America’s Cup Bid team and is currently the Director of Transport Control. Jasmin will be moving from the Ministry of Tourism Development and Transport to the Ministry of Economic Development on March 1st on a secondment basis. She will be lead liaison between the ACBDA and Government and represent the Government on the Board.”

By: Spectator

Spectator — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:15:01 +0000

Jasmin Smith has been seconded to the ACBDA and Ministry of Economic Development from the Ministry of Transport. This was stated in the release above.

By: Spectator

Spectator — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:11:12 +0000

Board members are “responsible for the oversight and governance of the company and to ensure it carries out its operational responsibilities in a fair and effective manner.” People are put on boards because they are experienced, knowledgeable and understand governance. Operational people execute events.

By: Self

Self — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:56:00 +0000

On whose time? If a civil servant (such as Ms Smith) does this during working hours, then there is nothing pro bono about it. If she’s doing it on her own time, then kudos to her.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:41:42 +0000

Kunta

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:27:38 +0000

The word is “you’re”.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:26:33 +0000

So what would a bunch of 24 year olds bring to the table? An in depth knowledge of video games?

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:21:41 +0000

700 applicants, 77 Million of tax payers money for a 2017 trickle down MIRACLE.
Something about those 7′s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Triangle Drifter

Triangle Drifter — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:12:28 +0000

Some weekend take a look out in Hamilton Harbour & see who is out there in little sailboats rain, blow or shine. Find out which little tiny island is making its presence felt in junior sailing way beyond its population size.

By: arthur conan doyle

arthur conan doyle — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:08:35 +0000

There is no need to apologise. I am putting forward a point of view that I know a lot of people agree with. I am not scaremongering, that is quite ridiculous thing to say, I am pointing out where I think the AC has got it wrong so far and simply asking them to up their game. What is wrong with that? I find it very disheartening that people do not understand the need to ensure that everyone is involved and made to feel included. Why is there such a lack of empathy? It’s my last post on this subject – it makes me want to puke.

By: Triangle Drifter

Triangle Drifter — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:08:17 +0000

Nobody came to my door asking if I wanted to be involved. There are plenty ways to find the AC contact information.

Start with a very simple Google search using…oh…I dunno…Americas Cup Bermuda…maybe? Check the Government department dealing with it. Somebody at one of the yacht clubs could steer you in the right direction.

It really would not take much motivation to get started, never mind that Bernews & the rest of the media had it all over.

But no, some want to be spoon fed.

By: Trulytruly

Trulytruly — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:05:17 +0000

The Minister said the Board members “kindly agreed to serve pro-bono”

Part of you question answered.

By: Dread

Dread — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:54:55 +0000

Some of these people make a living off the taxpayers.

By: brigadooner

brigadooner — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:43:27 +0000

…You are seriously critizing the donation of space for a group who is working…also for free…for Bermuda?

By: MA$E

MA$E — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:43:09 +0000

read it again. i said Board members.

By: just the facts

just the facts — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:17:20 +0000

It’s amazing to me how people throw out definitive statements as if they are fact. The BTA has a number of team members (at least 8 by my count) managing significant areas of responsibility who are under the age of 40. Male & female, ALL Bermudian. ALL well educated and most with advanced degrees in their field. They also have a couple of young Bermudian men (black males – before you ask), under the age of 30, who are learning the ropes and being groomed for leadership positions. How do I know? I asked and saw for myself.

By: BTCHECKER

BTCHECKER — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:05:37 +0000

The jobs were advertised in the royal gazette within that week. Given the lead in time for adverts it seems there was no issue with communication at all. They advertised on their website first and then in the paper. Like most international organisations.

Agatha – are you going to apologise? I think this would helpful as so far your communications have been one sided and mistake ridden. Perhaps you need to rethink your strategy otherwise I can forsee that people fears about you being a wind up merchant will be cemented

By: Self

Self — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:02:54 +0000

Isn’t Ms. Smith a top civil servant with an already bloated salary? Is she taking a leave of absence? If not, is she attending meetings on her own time? If not, is she attending meetings on Government time and getting paid? No hater comments please, I genuinely would like to know.

By: MA$E

MA$E — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:59:08 +0000

oh you mean the same Americas Cup that needed to pay NBC to carry its race from San Francisco ? the same America’s Cup that is struggling for cultural relevance much like Bermuda.
Nobody is trying trying to downplay the importance of experience in the execution of an event like this but if this event is to be a success it needs to gain the interest among a younger demo that has all but abandoned sailing as a sport.

By: St. D

St. D — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:51:42 +0000

Very exciting. Glad to see a range of people on the Board. Let’s get started!

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:46:21 +0000

Were one of the people that couldn’t manage the two clicks on the AC website to find the job vacancies?

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:45:05 +0000

How many names have you got?

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:44:14 +0000

And yet it was experienced people who got the AC here in the first place, not 24 year olds.

By: arthur conan doyle

arthur conan doyle — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:40:06 +0000

1. I was commenting on the comms cock-ups that have already been made
2.The jobs were only advertised some time after being on the Ac.com site and after they had been highlighted on this website
3. The space is being given for free
4. I am only pessimistic because I listen to what people are saying, unlike you clearly, who are concerned about the usual suspects benefiting.
As I said, I want this to succeed but to do so, it must up its game

By: arthur conan doyle

arthur conan doyle — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:36:27 +0000

Why do you have to resort to insults. It’s base and get no-one anywhere. Have you thought how many applied after the story was on Bernews or the ads were in the RG?

By: arthur conan doyle

arthur conan doyle — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:35:27 +0000

How many applied after the story was posted on Bernews?

By: MA$E

MA$E — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:31:54 +0000

your special .. don’t you forget that

By: Ricko Chez

Ricko Chez — Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:24:19 +0000

There are still bound to be entitled Bermudians who sit and moan because nobody came around to their front door and personally offered them a job on a silver platter.

Some people think they are so spashul!