Comments on: Foggo: ‘Do Honourable Thing & Relinquish Title’

By: Hmmm

Hmmm — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:57:12 +0000

That was Foggo in the run up to an election too. Are you saying she took that from Brown.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:28:04 +0000

Exactly.
When Leah Scott does something, they pretend to be “dismayed”. Foggo, Starling, Famous, Eron, all calling for resignation. But when you remind them of the Cox/Burt plagiarism and attempted cover-up, what do we get? Nothing. No reaction at all. Pretend it never happened. Silence.
Suddenly the big “ethics” issue doesn’t count. Suddenly their “principles” disappear.
What a bunch of hypocrites.

By: Damn Rather

Damn Rather — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 04:24:47 +0000

@Johnny, where in the post is anyone being called silly? If you read carefully, you will see that all it says is” a silly article”.

The PLP have never been accountable. Who acknowledged wrong doing? Who resigned after the many scandals and misuse of public funds? Who resigned over the gifting of contracts to F&F? Who resigned over Tuckers Pont SDO? Who resigned over hate driven comments? Who resigned after the AG acknowledged questionable practices? Who has quit over missing public monies? Who was held accountable? Nobody! Give us a break. Been down that road before.

By: Investor

Investor — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 03:17:49 +0000

If I lived in St David’s Mrs.Holhowser would get my vote.

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 01:03:56 +0000

This point had been quite relevant:
“My evidence is the R/G article “youth charity accuses Premier of lifting content”, October 25, 2011. Mr. Burt, then a Junior Minister, was up to his ears in that attempted deception. Strangely, nothing at all happened. They didn’t apologize, and nobody resigned from anything.
However now that we know how strongly P.L.P. sympathizers feel about the issue, I am sure they are already writing articles and columns calling for Mr. Burt to resign his position as Shadow Finance Minister.”
I know, “don’t hold my breath”

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:53:37 +0000

And O.B.A/ubp have outdone P.L.P in two years.

By: Need Peace

Need Peace — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:51:01 +0000

First of all, Ms Scott’s first mistake was listening to HEARSAY, then acting on it! It’s apparent that Mr. Dunkley allows his wayward scoundrels to run amok instead of demanding a higher standard.

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:50:24 +0000

The word HONOURABLE is kind of being abused, SOME politicians have this title and are far from it.

By: Ed Case

Ed Case — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:41:41 +0000

The benchmark for resigning was set many years ago – and this ain’t it.

Lovita – you know it.

Take a pill. You are embarrassing yourself. Do you really want to be remembered for this silly incident?

Better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.

By: mj

mj — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:19:23 +0000

the outcry was the result of the last election , when are you people gonna get that!!!what happened to the last government was a result of things that took place during their administration and it will happen to the oba as well if they continue to disrespect the public!… quit comparing with the former(plpl)government , THEY ARE NO LONGER THERE!! that is clear, so lets deal with this party(oba) who cannot and will not be excused because of the actions of a former party,. the Oba will be judged solely on what they have or haven’t done, not whether someone else did the similar thing or not.

By: It's About Time!

It's About Time! — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:08:45 +0000

Um Johnny….NO WAY IN HELL has the PLP been held accountable for their deeds by being VOTED OUT!!! NO WAY IN HELL do they get a free pass just because they were voted out!!!! They were voted out BECAUSE of what they did…they STILL have to be held accountable!!!

don’t even try and pull that BS…….

By: North Rock

North Rock — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:59:18 +0000

Leah Scott made a mistake. Lovita, you ARE a mistake…she apologized, will you ?

By: hmmm

hmmm — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:16:00 +0000

Source Bernews 2011 when Cox was Premier.

Speaking on his recent resignation, Colonel Burch said the Premier “did something I thought was disrespectful, and we disagreed, and we had one little spat ,over one little issue. But I consider her still to be a friend of mine. I am still PLP, I am still going to work for this Government, but I just could not continue in the role that I had then.”

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:01:00 +0000

If Leah Scott has to resign then so does Marc Bean for his alleged filthy remarks about women.

See how that works PLP?

By: Build a Better Bermuda

Build a Better Bermuda — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:43:15 +0000

Ms. Scott, you took an opportunity to highlight an attitude and behaviour that is alive and far to often would rather be ignored by those in this community that have no problem with it, just next time, try to remember to credit where credit is due. This latest statement out of the PLP camp only highlights the message you were trying to convey, while many are trying to keep focus on what you did, enough of us have heard the message through the noise of what you were trying to say. The political self-serving hypocrisy of what Ms Foggo has chosen as deem worth calling on people to resign over, and what she has remained silent on is not lost amongst the noise, say strong and carry on.

By: Jus' Wonderin'

Jus' Wonderin' — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:12:20 +0000

Well his got two of yours already so…

By: Jus' Wonderin'

Jus' Wonderin' — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:05:04 +0000

must have been “watching” something else…

By: javerne

javerne — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:50:12 +0000

Miss Foggo…. how dare she talk about honourable? Where is she registered to vote? Where did she live in the last election and where did she vote in the last election?

By: Lawry

Lawry — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:24:23 +0000

Memo To All PLP Parliamentarians: Do the honourable thing and give back our money.

By: Ed Case

Ed Case — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:09:48 +0000

PLP-people are only going on about this cos they have nothing else. Honestly, straws should be banned in Bermuda to stop PLP grasping at them!

By: Self

Self — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:02:20 +0000

Lovita Foggo needs to sit down and take a break. When my eighteen year old daughter (a first time voter) asked her some questions about her party’s performance, she got her knickers in a twist and was down right defensive. When she left, my daughter commented that the only accomplishment Ms Foggo could come up with for herself was making a street one way. Out of the mouths of babes.

By: Triangle Drifter

Triangle Drifter — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:58:22 +0000

WOW! Who made that comment? Hope that person is not an MP. If so & there is any honour in that MP at all a resignation should have been tabled imediately.

If not, then anything said by that MP holds no credibility at all.

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:58:14 +0000

Oh, FFS, the perpetually offended are out in force. Let’s be clear, this is a non-event, nothing. Anyone who puts the word “gate” at the end of this, needs to be slapped, it’s not a scandal, get it?
If you want to be offended, try this:

“We must hasten to employ measures which ensure that our people and our children know that a UBP vote is a vote back to the plantation. It is a vote that will return the shackles to our feet!”

Foggy should hang her head in shame and apologise daily for such a disgusting comment.

By: Navin Johnson

Navin Johnson — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:37:46 +0000

Excuse me with the things that Bean has said and done without comment from the PLP I think it is safe to say he IS the PLP

By: Navin Johnson

Navin Johnson — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:35:33 +0000

I prefer Moe,Larry,Curly and Shemp

By: Huh

Huh — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:59:26 +0000

Ms Scott said “while it is alleged that I have directly plagiarized, this is untrue,” adding that her “error in submitting the letter without references was inadvertent and unintentional.”
“I will never win in the court of public opinion on this matter, and I am not going to try to. I can only humble myself and apologise to all who I have offended,” added Ms. Scott

By: clearasmud

clearasmud — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:52:43 +0000

Many of the regular bloggers don’t seem to get it that most people don’t want to be done wrong by anyone! People come on here willing to justify Anything if they like the person and seem unable to determine right from wrong!

By: Islander

Islander — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:45:29 +0000

you not being seen in your Constituency since 2012 at least not in my neck of the Community and PLP wonder why some don’t vote you have lost my vote and that of my family BE GONE All YOU LOT!!

By: mj

mj — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:40:02 +0000

not many of us that are JUNIOR MINISTER of EDUCATION..dah

By: Impressive

Impressive — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:30:11 +0000

great post

By: SMH

SMH — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:29:17 +0000

Where was the outcry and call for resignations over the $20M overspend at Port Royal? Hypocrites, this isn’t even a thing. Grow up people. Rome is burning

By: Impressive

Impressive — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:29:04 +0000

so, can you please state how this relates to the topic of plagiarism?? Or Are you suggesting that the words that Dr Brown spoke in that instance where taken from another source??

By: Tolerate

Tolerate — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:24:33 +0000

Wait a minute. Not in defense for Mrs Scott; but did you see Walter Robans actions as honorable?
Wow, I’m shocked Mr. Starling. The fact that two other MP’s stood by letting him take the fall after it was “THEIR ACTIONS” that put him in the position. What happened to the other two?
Mr. Roban took one for the team and was rewarded less than a year later with a new appointment.
Please don’t make comments like this assuming the public is dumb. The PLP does this all on their own. They don’t need you trying to defend them while passing yourself off as not being biased. As you said in a previous blog, you have also asked for resignations from them in the past as well? Really; it’s too late to try and appear neutral.
SMH

By: Onion

Onion — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:16:15 +0000

For clear abuse of power in overruling the planning board to give preferential treatment to his colleagues.

There’s no comparison.

By: Come Correct

Come Correct — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:12:48 +0000

Quighers tho…LOL.

By: mj

mj — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:10:41 +0000

just like Michael Dunkley was quickly brought back! also lest we don’t know, the true author of The Matrix Sophia Stewart fought a long hard battle to win her case against the Wachowski Brothers (one now has gone from Larry to Lana even seen sporting dreadlocks!and a german accent hmmm, with his new female appearance according to cct news report) are owners of the largest media Corps. so this plagerism story has been suppressed because those who own the media will not report against themselves! this type of thing has been going on for years with people using other people material to further their progress without given proper credit!

By: serengetiperson

serengetiperson — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:07:21 +0000

Perhaps he should resign first, and set the example. His supporters seem to feel very strongly about the principle involved.

By: serengetiperson

serengetiperson — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:56:44 +0000

It is also very similar to the ‘DVDgate’ saga, where nobody seemed to admit there was anything remotely wrong with plagiarizing and then attempting to cover it up.

By: Onion

Onion — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:53:41 +0000

Leah messed up with this – and my hope is that privately the OBA have made it 100% clear that this was unacceptable.

The test will be to see if it has happened again. What was bad about the PLP was not just that they made mistakes or did unethical things but that they made the same mistakes and were unethical time and time again.

The same goes for MP Weeks’ recent dishonest smear. We will see if he does it again.

By: just wondering

just wondering — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:51:50 +0000

So Ms Foggo in 2007 when the then DPP determined that whilst the then Government hadn’t broken any criminal laws but had been “guilty” of unethical behavior do you agree that they ought to have resigned? And (of course) assuming your answer has to be “yes” – why weren’t you in the media calling for this? Or is it that in this case ones ethics are governed (pun intended) ones political affiliation?

By: chivas

chivas — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:48:44 +0000

To be fair the marijuana tea wasn’t a PLP thing. It was a Marc Bean thing. The PLP isn’t at fault for that one, just Marc Bean. However, the others are good points.

By: chivas

chivas — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:42:52 +0000

Oh wait. Talking about people that should resign, do you remember this racist comment?

“We must hasten to employ measures which ensure that our people and our children know that a UBP vote is a vote back to the plantation. It is a vote that will return the shackles to our feet!”

Wow! How ignorant.

Something about people in glass houses…

By: Onion

Onion — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:41:24 +0000

“Nancy” remember that time you replied to yourself congratulating yourself on a good post? Guess you forgot to change names between posts.

By: frank

frank — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:59:23 +0000

mp scott should just fall on her sword and step down an by the way why is she still jr. minister of education da

By: johnny

johnny — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:56:47 +0000

In the first breath you complain about a long list of things you feel the PLP done wrong years ago and have been held accountable for by being voted out. Then right away you call people who complain silly. Look who is calling the kettle black.

By: Double Trouble

Double Trouble — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:51:06 +0000

This situation is very reminiscent of the “Jetgate” saga which plagued former Premier Cannonier. In both cases the initial actions were not necessarily the major issues. With Cannonier and the others, the accepting of the ride on the private jet showed poor judgement. In this case the act of plagiarism showed equally poor judgement.

What the public seemed to have found most egregious was Mr. Cannonier’s responses when challenged on the issue. The same applies in this case. The Junior Minister of Education’s explanation describing why she did not directly plagiarize is a weak attempt to diminish her accountability for such poor judgement and is an assault on the intelligence of the people of Bermuda.

What I find ironic is, when the OBA gathered for the weekend to discuss that Jetgate matter, she was the only member of the OBA team who called for accountability from the persons in positions of trust. The Junior Minister should give thought to her own actions and make the accountable decision.

By: Ringmaster

Ringmaster — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:41:02 +0000

@Creamy. Are you suggesting, as an example, the PLP would need a replacement Shadow Minister of Finance?

By: Hmmm

Hmmm — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:35:44 +0000

Then Burt must go

By: Hmmm

Hmmm — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:35:06 +0000

But they quickly brought him back.

By: Hmmm

Hmmm — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:33:50 +0000

Do tou agree that anyone caught plagerizing should resign?