Comments on: Motions To Censure Speaker, Opposition Leader

By: Or

Or — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 21:37:29 +0000

Maybe he is being responsible. If let the cat out of the bag at the wronge time in could do more harm then good. Its all about timing.

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:35:30 +0000

“Narcissistic Personality Disorder – is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of this ultra confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that vulnerable to the slightest criticism.”
I can think of two,that fit this description who are in the Progressive Labour Party…

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:19:57 +0000

While the Speaker said he would defer to the Standings Orders Committee Opposition Leader Marc Bean has called his position “untenable”
This is bulls—

By: sick and tired

sick and tired — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:25:11 +0000

I think that pendulum swings both ways.

By: Cast the first stone?

Cast the first stone? — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:32:23 +0000

Fact Finder, I have to admit that the story about “casting the first stone” is cute but it doesn’t appear in any biblical text before the 12th century.

By: aceboy

aceboy — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:20:05 +0000

Remember when that quote was spoken? When a former premier flew in four gentlemen from Cuba?

Not a point of order on some vote that one party was going to lose anyway….he snuck four people into Bermuda totally against the immigration laws of this country and contrary to Bermuda’s Constitution.

If that can “pass”, which it did with no apology or admission of wrong doing, then so can this.

If Mr. Horton is a bad speaker of the house and doesn’t know the rules as you claim, then look where he received his training. With the PLP.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:09:29 +0000

Maybe he was offering to take everyone for a nice curry, eh Betty?

By: Creamy

Creamy — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:06:09 +0000

Maybe he meant he was going to take them all on a date, eh Jonathan?

By: steve

steve — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:04:42 +0000

The only comment Mr Bean ever made that scared me,
was the time he threatened to become leader of the country.

By: Dr. the Hon. Ewart F. Brown

Dr. the Hon. Ewart F. Brown — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:03:52 +0000

@Fact Finder…..Don Coleman became my friend when he competed for business in Bermuda. I did not know him before then. Have you figured out why you made an incorrect assumption? All Black people who have university degrees did not attend the same institution!
As I have explained many times, my wife and I paid GlobalHue the equivalent of first-class, one-way tickets to DC. We did not “bum a ride”:. Sorry to disappoint you, but if you are going to refer to yourself as Fact Finder, you should provide facts and not regurgitate the lies of the Hooded Racists.

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 07:01:33 +0000

Time for the Speaker to retire

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 06:56:12 +0000

The Bible don’t mean nothing to Atheist.
That’s why some people can swear on it and then have no conscience when they do folly.

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:44:04 +0000

Different All together really. OBA simply stood in kitchen while MB spoke. There was no vote or debate happening at the time

By: Ruthless

Ruthless — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:00:48 +0000

Mark, I hope you know that if the PLP ever return to power, they will thank you for getting the young votes and then you will be kicked to the curb! They are not going to let you run the country. Remember how they had to deceive us. Poor Jennifer and Poor Alex. Ps. Then you can return to deep sea fishing like before. Remember the types of fish way out there? I do!!!!!!!!!

By: Balanced Facts

Balanced Facts — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 01:46:08 +0000

1)Thats not what he said!
2) what rule was Breached by HIM over Jet Gate!?
3) Allegation at against Dunkley was not whilst House was in Session !
Just a few FACTS which he PLP always seem to conveniently ignore!

By: Balanced Facts

Balanced Facts — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 01:29:43 +0000

So…you have not cited any specific rule breach (look at r. 24 and r. 13 it may help you!) Nor have you had any answer for why this approach over the last 16 years was not an issue until Friday. Pettingal amended a motion by Zane Desilva a few weeks back in exactly the same way and NOBODY said BOO! Why not?

By: But Mr.Speaker, Point of Order

But Mr.Speaker, Point of Order — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 01:15:38 +0000

Your pulling at straws Derek. ….but do continue to follow and read from the OBA script. ..aaaaah

No case to answer. ….

By: Christian

Christian — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:45:31 +0000

“Transparency is killing them”. Ahhhh, so you preferred when there was no transparency? No honesty? You preferred when the Government could do what they wanted, so long as they hid it?

That will be why we are millions and millions of $$$ in debt.

But you prefer that?

By: mj

mj — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:44:05 +0000

Just because “men” misrepresented the Bible doesn’t lesson its validity or what it prophesies to come. Whether one believes in it doe not alter its autenticity or what has been commanded to be and has been, we were not there when there was completed void, nor do we know how to created Spirit and Soul, but the Most High who is described in the Bible knows and can give or take away.That is why it is explained that a place which committed the same foolishness that we do today called sodom and gomorrah were destroyed, we are also cautioned what to eat and what not to eat because of our earthly bodies, the swine although not filthy unto intself eats anything and doesnt chew grass, our constitutions were not made to just absorb anything, so we get sick and wonder why? coz certain things we shouldn’t do but we are stiff neck and hardheaded thinking we know better than our Creator.

By: mj

mj — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:34:45 +0000

Yes it is, it contains a lot of our history and explains why we as various nations are where we are today in life, The Bible is a compilation of writings that have been translated from Hebrew to English so that the Children of The Most High would recognize who they are in the language that they would be speaking as a result of the transatlantic slave trade, King James of Scotland had the translationn Authorized as he knew what was to come and that there were people that wanted to kill him(Basilikhan Doron)especially regarding the gunpowder plot that we are well aware of but don’t fully understand the impact that it has had on a certain group of people called”slaves”.The scriptures in KJV 1611 is more conclusive… Other Nations in this earth know the scriptures very well and have been living their lives accordingly, the information states within the Bible that The Most High put it within men to write and only what he inspired not what is added or subtracted .The very basics of how to treat people are contained within it but we choose to ignore the Most knowleagable document that has actually fulfilled Prophesy!

By: Mockingjay

Mockingjay — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:21:02 +0000

I know it’s Embarrassing an Pathetic to see how screwed up this Government is and how they are making P.L.P look like Choir Boys.
It’s Hilarious to see how the U.B.P/oba supporters endorse and are silent on the things that are Preposterous, yet were the cheerleaders 2 years ago.
Selective Political Amnesia.
PS
The selection of your W&E Minister is the reflection of your party.
REJECT

By: jt

jt — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:06:55 +0000

Cinderella rode in a pumpkin to the ball and the turtle beat the hare. Both stories have lessons. Neither are true.
Is an atheist (or Muslim or whatever) precluded from being an MP in Bermuda?

By: 32n64w

32n64w — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:48:14 +0000

“The Bible is the basic information book for learning while we are on the earth”

No. It’s. Not.

By: Build a Better Bermuda

Build a Better Bermuda — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:42:53 +0000

While that last part was hard to decern amongst the noise, it was quite clear that the Leader of the opposition seems to be himself confused when he had to correct himself when he tried to call the Governing party the opposition. It fell in as he stated that the the house was in disrepute and charged that he was ‘allowing the opp… allowing the government to…’
We have a leader of the opposition who seems completely at odds with himself, he fancies himself a leader in waiting, he wants the highest office of this land, but feels he should in no way have to elevate himself to it, he constantly talks about how he is the truth, yet will not own up to the truth of his own part in this country’s decline and his own misbehaviour in it. His tone and language in his latest statement reflect entirely his own failings to be a stateman befit of the Premier’s office

By: Redman

Redman — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:29:47 +0000

@ jt

Boom!!

Yes, yes we did (thank goodness) Lol

By: mj

mj — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:10:04 +0000

The members of the HoA cannot enter as MP’s till they are sworn in on Bible, also Speaker starts of every session with a prayer .? The Bible is the basic information book for learning while we are on the earth thats where the first punishment was given to Cain after killing his brother Abel,and although The Most High had mercy the subsequent generations of people continue to go against His commandments unto this very day!!! The people are stiffneck and think they created themselves and can do whatever they will without punishment or judgement. The Most High says for this cause he will send a strong delusion that they should believe a lie(2Thessalonians 2:11)

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:08:29 +0000

I quote a letter in response to “Yettb” submitted by I Bacon:
“Randy Horton’s ability to apologize demonstrates that he stands head and shoulders above many of the politicians with whom he has to deal. Frankly, Yettb, your suggestion that he has an “O.B.A. package deal” is insulting and demeans yourself as well as Speaker Horton.”
It’s true, in reference to the way these “people” are carrying on. How are we, (Bermuda)to make headway when there are soooo many with soooo many insignificant complaints made and wasting important time in the “House” unless it is a ploy by them on the other side of the floor

By: Ann

Ann — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:49:37 +0000

How many times have the PLP brought up that silly plane ride that cost the taxpayers nothing, sometimes I read these things and choke, WE ARE in this mess because of the PLP, How are we not supposed to stop brining it up!!!!!

By: Coffee

Coffee — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:38:17 +0000

Man bie ya friggin boring !

By: Ignorance is not bliss

Ignorance is not bliss — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:29:59 +0000

Its x 3. (It’s = it is )

By: hmmm

hmmm — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:23:43 +0000

Are you born slippy ?

You know exactly what it means.

By: hmmm

hmmm — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:21:11 +0000

Wasn’t it along the lines of I’ll take you all out.

By: Observer

Observer — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:08:20 +0000

And the EMMY goes to Marc Bean and David Burt for best actors in a reality series:

‘THE SPEAKER THE HOODLUM AND THE PAWN WHO TRIED TO BE KING’

My hat’s off to you, Mr. Speaker. You really do deserve a trophy for dealing with deceit all around you in both camps yet navigating the course with humility and integrity. You have to wonder if anarchy is really what the people would prefer.

By: Just wondering

Just wondering — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:05:32 +0000

quite remarkabe – and i like Michael Scott but this is amazing – lets ASSUME for one moment that the speaker did get it wrong – so on that basis ought he to be censured? Put another way the next time Michael is in court and gets it wrong (i.e. he is ruled against) ought he to be disciplined by Bar Council?? People do get it wrong they do it every day – but simply being wrong is NOT a reason for censure!!!

By: Just a matter of time

Just a matter of time — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:05:02 +0000

@Balanced Facts. ” Please explain what Democratic process was breached?”
Not allowing a debate on an important amendment before the vote. Not allowing MP Burt to be heard using his Parliamentary privilege. The Speaker himself said he made a mistake. If we are not going to follow the HOA rules which are part of our rules of governance which most likely got passed down from the UK for our democtratically elected Parliamentarians then why have them? Why use them? Let’s just chuck them all out shall we? Because clearly the OBA did not care at the time but voted anyway and no supporters here are bothering to address that. Had the PLP missed it they would be called the usual stereotypical names of being unintelligent, clueless, etc. I’m sure MP Burt’s “uppity” move incensed a lot of people I gather.

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:56:29 +0000

I’m assuming you would agree, Mr Starling, that Bean should recuse himself from the Standing Orders Committee when it considers these matters? After all, otherwise he would be sitting in judgment of his own actions.

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:50:52 +0000

Internally, the PLP won’t do anything about it. If they wanted to, they would have done it at the last party leadership vote. I mean, look how Kim Wilson and Walton Brown tip-toed around the issue when Marc Bean decided he wanted to insult OBA women? The party must stay together AT ALL COSTS!

Secretly, the PLP aren’t saying anything and probably hoping it will all work out just like they hoped their last two administrations did.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:44:06 +0000

Hey Mark, how come you are quoting bible versus ? I do not see you in church on Sundays……point of order Marc…..we know what you are all about…. enjoy your tea tonight…PLP how could you elect this man to be your leader ?

By: Trulytruly

Trulytruly — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:38:49 +0000

Due to the numbers the speaker will not be censured and Marc Bean will be censured. The plp don’t win this one.

By: Trulytruly

Trulytruly — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:35:47 +0000

This actually about the actions of two plp elected members not OBA members. Twist it as much as you like your leader has a foul mouth and obsession with the dark side.

By: Mr Stevens

Mr Stevens — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:32:57 +0000

The only offences with a possible maximum sentence of 15 years in the Parliament Act are bribing a member or acceptance of a bribe by a member. If he has the proof I don’t understand why he wouldn’t just reveal it. Given that he said that outside of the chamber, it’s arguably defamation.

By: ImJustSayin

ImJustSayin — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:29:09 +0000

If they don’t censor the speaker are the PLP gonna stamp their feet, cry like baby’s and go home? Because that was not very professional, neither was the speaker.

By: watcher55

watcher55 — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:55:35 +0000

It’s about time these clowns started to act like political figures with the interest of Bermuda at heart and stopped acting like 5th graders in the playground, I’m tired of listening to their constant stupid and offensive rhetoric

By: Toughchit

Toughchit — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:49:35 +0000

The PLP’s claim that their only reason for being is to topple an elected democratically government is just one more trait that they share with the USA’s Tea Party movement.

The other traits are intolerance of differing opinions, issuing threats, hating on immigrants, hating on gays and hating on others who do not look like them.

If Bean is so confident of his claims then he will not spew his allegations behind the cloak of parliamentary privilege.

By: But Mr. Speaker !! Point of Order Please

But Mr. Speaker !! Point of Order Please — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:44:24 +0000

Thanks J STarling, it is merely the OBAubp strategy to attack Bean, but looks like it may be a no go anyways……

Keep up the script from the OBA strategist folks….is it working for you …..really

By: Toughchit

Toughchit — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:43:41 +0000

Starling defended Jamal Simmons’ tweets so his opinion is par for the course.

By: Just a matter of time

Just a matter of time — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:39:11 +0000

I also recall a time the OBA all walked out when Marc started to speak in the HOA in solidarity over the Toni Daniels issue. A non governmental outside issue. PLP were trying to do the people’s business on Friday. OBA too quick to throw stones!!

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:38:22 +0000

Why not! Maybe the whole thing will just implode.

By: Balanced Facts

Balanced Facts — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:37:17 +0000

Well said…have another drink!

By: jt

jt — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:36:40 +0000

We did.