Comments on: Roban Calls For CCTV To Expand To Schools

By: steve

steve — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:09:39 +0000

I agree with Mr Roban we require more cameras to deter and convict in order to tackle issues that has damaged our country on many levels.
Lets start with a retroactive 1998 camera install at PLP headquarters.

By: Huh

Huh — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:08:29 +0000

Just another example of the Titanic sinking and the PLP wanting to discuss the deckchair arrangements. Thank God they are no longer our Govt.

By: Betty Boop

Betty Boop — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:20:50 +0000

So true. Roban and the rest have no clue where the money will come from. That’s what I said about Ewart Brown and his spending spree. Anyone can buy ferries, but where was the money coming from, us guys, and of course that was the best thing to happen to Bermuda since sliced bread! Just saying….with an unlimited budget we can do almost anything.

By: jt

jt — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:31:59 +0000

July 23 – make noise about something on public forum ✔

July 24 – make noise about something on public forum

July 25 – make noise ……

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 13:57:35 +0000

@ Build a Better Bermuda. A bit of advice for Mr. Roban, “If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian.” -Paul McCartney singer-songwriter, composer, poet, and activist (b. 18 Jun 1942)
I agree with the concept “but”, where will the dollars come from to install and maintain these security cameras?

By: J Starling

J Starling — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 13:56:32 +0000

Also, I’ve written a few articles critical of CCTV here on Bernews, should you be interested.

I think they were published in spring 2014 if that helps. But a search of ‘cctv’ on this site should work. (I’m on my phone, so can’t post the links for you, sorry)

By: J Starling

J Starling — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 13:52:42 +0000

Not to derail the thread, but Orwell was a democratic socialist, as am I.

1984 and Animal Farm were condemnations of Stalinism, not of communism or socialism – they were criticisms of state socialism from a democratic socialist perspective.

To reduce all varieties of communism\socialism to just Stalinism is an error, albeit one that has (for various Cold War reasons on both sides of the iron curtain) been promoted by both the West and Moscow\Beijing.

By: Build a Better Bermuda

Build a Better Bermuda — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 13:36:20 +0000

I wouldn’t see it as a waste of money, but just where the hell do they expect us to find the money. To cameras throughout the schools will require more physical infrastructure than consolidated wirelessly linked camera boxes at set points. In the schools, a consolidated point will be required, with all cabling coming back to there… that is assuming that the cameras will be within whatever the cable distance limitations will be, otherwise you will need more than one point. Then there will be whether the cameras will be IP based or digital, both present different pros and cons. Then there will be compatibility with the existing CCTV system… additional bandwidth needs from the schools for the monitoring streams…

By: Jeremy Deacon

Jeremy Deacon — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 13:04:42 +0000

Totally agree JS. Very surprised to hear suggestions of a 1984 style operation ….

By: Uh

Uh — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:58:15 +0000

Well if you visit a school like Cedarbridge you would know that they have over 60 cameras inside and outside of the school.. Why add more? I think the school already knows they needed to protect the students and faculty. They do not need your help PLP

By: aceboy

aceboy — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:54:03 +0000

1984 was in essence a condemnation of communism. I am suprised you arent a big supporter of more cameras and equally suprised to see your negative reference to 1984.

By: Truth is killin' me...

Truth is killin' me... — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:22:20 +0000

AND NURSERIES MR. ROBAN. CHILDREN WHO ARE TOO YOUNG TO TALK AND TELL MOMMY AND DADDY WHAT HAPPENED AT NURSERY NEED PROTECTION FROM THE CHILD ABUSERS AMONGST US! LET’S GET LEGISLATION ON THE BOOKS AND HAVE IT HAPPEN NOW!! IF THE NURSERIES HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE THEY WON’T MIND BEING MONITORED. SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT I WANT TO BE HEARD.

By: San George

San George — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:55:00 +0000

Let’s put them in our houses too. Bigger contract for friends and family.

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:53:20 +0000

We should also build high walls with barb wire around the schools so that students can really FEEL like they are in peaceful sanctuaries.

Seriously though, the $6M already spent on cameras do not cover all of our roads as they need to prioritise resources. Which cameras does MP Roban suggest we take down or conversely what does he suggest is cut from the budget to cover the purchase, installation and monitoring of additional cameras? Typical spending initiative with no reference to our financial realities.

By: J Starling

J Starling — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:34:27 +0000

I am uneasy with such an extension. We’re already very much an intrusive surveillance society – and besides, the technology & operation of such a CCTV system is expensive too.

A much better approach would be expanding community policing and tackling some of the root problems, be it inequality or the counter-productive ‘war on drugs’ prohibition approach (as opposed to addressing it as a public health issue).

Do we really want to make our schools a mini-1984? What lessons does that teach our young?

By: aceboy

aceboy — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:56:17 +0000

The PLP are really good at suggestions for SPENDING money. Not so good at suggestions for earning it.

By: let's think about this

let's think about this — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:52:12 +0000

If you want to stop breaking in. A CCTV systems is just going to watch you do it. You needs a security system with horns around a communication to a central station.

The incident that roban is using as an example whill have not stopped someone going into the school and planting something. It will just have recorded him. All some needs to do is be fully covered.

By: Zevon

Zevon — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:37:38 +0000

How would a camera have made any difference to a bomb scare?

By: Boomy

Boomy — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:33:54 +0000

go ahead waste more money.