Comments on: Group Demand Action On Infrastructure/Flooding

By: Rhonnie aka BlueFamiliar

Rhonnie aka BlueFamiliar — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 16:19:54 +0000

Only if it’s ‘tank rain’

By: ron,b

ron,b — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 12:41:33 +0000

they knew disaster will strike one day but the power of the almighty dollar has the last say,, i totally just made that up,sounds cris and it rhymes

By: ron,b

ron,b — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 12:38:42 +0000

its not gods fault,, all the ponds flow into and out of mills creek and the flow has been blocked, and ponds filled in by construction, the big government three story parking lot in back of masters and the new government w+e building in back of that,and were the car wash is has all been filled in and the flow of the water blocked ,,so that whole area the pond has been blocked ,so that would be totally the governments fault, or should be ….all that water is suppose to run freely under the places flooded in the pics above ,,,so its the devils fault

By: Soggy Socks

Soggy Socks — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:36:25 +0000

Who’s blaming the OBA? The Government is being blamed. This problem is perennial. The lack of communication since July however is clearly the fault of the Minister and Civil Servants employed between July and November 2015.

By: jon

jon — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 22:31:45 +0000

“severe flooding that occurs every time it rains” – really? every time? severe flooding?

By: UmJustSaying

UmJustSaying — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 22:25:14 +0000

Remember when we where able to see water flowing pass the south side of Central School,the north side of the now park on Parsons Rd, south side of NVCC field,northside of Saltus field, through BAA between the field and the club house.. LANDFILL is a wonderful tool

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 20:09:51 +0000

Well 11 point plan since 2004, it’d say it’s 8/11ths the PLP’s fault. hahaha

By: Hi and Lois

Hi and Lois — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 20:08:08 +0000

So is the ground in question above or below sea level?

By: jt

jt — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 20:05:04 +0000

Of course.

By: cup of tea anyone?

cup of tea anyone? — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 19:32:41 +0000

This is the PLP’s fault.

By: Betty Boop

Betty Boop — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 19:03:04 +0000

LOL.

By: Just my opinion

Just my opinion — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:42:22 +0000

In June 2008, Government issued a document which states:

“The control and disposal of storm water runoff will take place within the boundaries of the application site and that No drainage will take place into the Pembroke Canal.”

Well that special consideration simply has never been applied. No wonder people are speaking up. The flooding is clearly worse than ever…and all over Pembroke not just Mill Creek Rd.

By: Vulcan Trash Cleaner

Vulcan Trash Cleaner — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 17:58:42 +0000

I’m surprised no one has blamed de plp….so I will!

By: Truth is killin' me...

Truth is killin' me... — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 17:36:44 +0000

“Blame it on the raaaaain!”

By: Name ( required )

Name ( required ) — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 17:01:14 +0000

Bruh

By: Sunshine

Sunshine — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:38:57 +0000

Something really needs to be done as I am really tired of having to swim to work. Please adhere to the request of the people concerned.

By: KarmaGotEm

KarmaGotEm — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:38:42 +0000

Whilst I sympathize with the businesses over there. I don’t think anyone really believes that each business is losing that much money per day! If they are, they have never had a recession.

By: Tank Rain

Tank Rain — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:35:09 +0000

Tax exempt companies!

By: Loquatz

Loquatz — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:29:59 +0000

Helped them – but simply made the problems worse for their neighbours. Mills Creek is the neighbour in the case of Hamilton – all the development there has overburdened the canal. As more land is paved, it prevents surface absorption and the water ends up flowing down that little canal … it just can’t handle it.

By: Loquatz

Loquatz — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:27:11 +0000

Bad urban planning across the board – virtually all the surface runoff from “urban Bermuda” piles into this hinky little canal that has never been upgraded … even as more of the city is paved and pushing water into it. Well, yeah, it’s going to flood.

By: JES

JES — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:26:18 +0000

It’s interesting how they blame the expansion of TCD when all that has been created is a wall around the western side of the property. This was done so we are told to protect the nature reserve from the run off of contaminated water bourne by the carbons and emissions that settle in the parking lot. Nothing has changed from years gone by only now that same wall holds the water that use to easily run off of the property creating a pool of sitting water. The area where the new parking lot is has not been expanded and no new ground reclaimed… Just resurfaced as that area used to be the old driver testing range and the main parking lot area. If anything a flooding problem that never existed in modern time has been created on that property which is of just as much concern to the employees and customers who have to deal with the canal not being regularly cleaned of the floating lily plants that are choking and slow the flow of water through the marsh. What baffles me about this whole situation of run off water is that water that runs off of the road where North Street and Dutton Avenue connect runs directly into the canal under the little bridge connecting the two roads which I am sure is full of just as much carbons and emissions as the parking lot so someone has created a false sense of trying to save the ‘Green World’ which is laughable. #TiredOfTheFloodingToo

By: Loquatz

Loquatz — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:24:54 +0000

Most of the problem actually occurs upstream in Hamilton.

By: Rhonnie aka BlueFamiliar

Rhonnie aka BlueFamiliar — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:24:00 +0000

I’ve worked in one of the known flooding areas and I’m afraid my level of sympathy for these businesses is fairly low.

If you build or open your business in an area that has been known to flood for generations, guess what? You’re going to have to deal with flooding. If you don’t prepare for that, who’s at fault?

When it comes to the employees’ woes, I do have a little sympathy, but if you drive through the water, you have to know what you’re doing to your car, though given how many vehicles get stuck in the water because people don’t understand that they are not driving boats suggests thay I could be wrong on this.

In the end, wanting a Government which we all know is deeply in debt to solve a problem you went in to knowing about, is just a little daft.

By: Sara

Sara — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:05:05 +0000

Exactly what I was thinking. Mother nature always shows us where we should not have built.

By: JES

JES — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:01:44 +0000

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:59:45 +0000

The report said that with $4.31M in 2004 this could have been dealt with. Doubt anything was done at all maintenance wise in decade after report.

By: Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me? — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:58:20 +0000

For donkeys years we’ve had this situation and all of a sunden blame the OBA ,,,bunch of losers ,,,,

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:57:46 +0000

Their situation is terrible too, but they can at least access their properties without a punt.

By: serengeti

serengeti — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:57:37 +0000

So the 2002 Action Plan estimated the cost of this at $4.3m. So at today’s prices, 13-14 years later, we know the cost is likely to be $10m+.

It’s odd, but the businesses who chose to locate in that area, knowing its flood risk, haven’t volunteered to pay anything for the work. Why not?

Are taxpayers supposed to forego other government services to pay for this?

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:55 +0000

The problem is that development has extended all the way to TCD and yet the only folks are prone to become trapped are right on Mill Creek Lane. Planning has continuously approved construction that worsens the problem (BAA, TCD, etc). If those affected block off the canal, they could ease up their own flooding but everyone else would float! Government needs to uphold its responsibilities as per the Act and maintain the canal. Clearly W&E/Park’s suffers from terrible management in the Civil Service. What do the trash collector’s do when collection is cancelled every week? What does Parks do at all. The canal looks like a tropical rain forest as do all our public roadsides. What the hell are we all paying taxes for?

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:51:26 +0000

Agreed. Blame for this is cannot be put at Cannonier’s feet, but a clear articulation of Government’s plan to uphold their responsibilities can come from him.

By: Not exactly

Not exactly — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:49:59 +0000

The problem is that the businesses cannot do anything without Government first addressing the structural issues. There are no other accesses to the area and Government over the last 15 years has done ZERO in the way of infrastructure investment as per their own study!

By: jt

jt — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:40:31 +0000

Did I miss the part where they outlined how it would be paid for?

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:30:36 +0000

Here is an idea. Before building a warehouse etc. raise the road level leading to them places in advance…Look at Ray Clad you don’t hear anyone complaining about their business being flooded

By: Triangle Drifter

Triangle Drifter — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:57:36 +0000

While there has to be sympathy for the businesses & users of the area, what do you expect when you cover a whole marsh area with buildings, concrete & asphalt?

When man messes with nature all too often man makes a mess of nature.

This area is not much different than the air terminal. Half a century of patching up or doing nothing & you are eventually facing a huge bill to make it right.

Think what could be done if the Sage Report was followed & 3000 ineffective civil servants were given the boot. Lets start with W&E & quickly move to santiation & transport to save big bucks through privatisation.

By: The Guy

The Guy — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:39:03 +0000

I agree with Mr. Ed Faries, 100% as I am a victim of this flooding as I have worked at Mills Creek for over 10 years and I have suffered numerous lateness and have to wait it out to go home evenings. I have a wonderful car and I don’t even attempt to drive thru this stuff as our trucks has suffered numerous lock up on the hand brakes, wheel bearing kits, and rust, to name a few, damages! Please Mr. Cannonier, make a point to rectify this while you are in office, now! Thank You!

By: Raymond Ray

Raymond Ray — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:31:30 +0000

That area has been flooding for as long as I can recall (I’m in my 60s)and it is NOT something new So, what do “u’lot” who’ve formed this group suggest be done?

By: Micro

Micro — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:20:45 +0000

Builds house on marsh at sea level and complains about flooding…

By: Paradise Reclaimed

Paradise Reclaimed — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:16:45 +0000

Reclaiming too much paradise does contribute to the woes in the area. The solutions should have been implemented by now. Sympathies to those affected, there is so little choice available when it comes to finding suitable places to do business.

By: Um Um Like

Um Um Like — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:04:59 +0000

The flooding in this area is God’s will. Just let it flood or you will go to hell.

Ameyun!