Comments on: House: Civil Union Act Consultation Draft Tabled

By: Onion Juice

Onion Juice — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 12:40:49 +0000

No we are not in Africa, but majority of inhabitants in Bermuda are of African descent.

By: Coffee

Coffee — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 09:44:04 +0000

Some laws should never change or be amended .

By: sebring

sebring — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 02:45:14 +0000

with a name like yours they would deserve what they get if they patronize your business or visit your home that is why gays in general should close the doors on hiring , and patronizing people and organizations with believes like yours ! I will guarantee you they have the upper hand !

By: Joe Public

Joe Public — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 23:01:30 +0000

Um nope! I’m talking about the referendum. So keep up with my Government. Thank you OBA for listening to the people.

By: Just One

Just One — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 20:11:43 +0000

I think that, based on the comments on this site, the same sex folks will get what they want, assuming that the audience of Bernews is an equal representation of registered Bermudians voters in general. We shall see…

By: lalalalala

lalalalala — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 19:42:48 +0000

So basically they have taken the Marriage Act and changed the words… Thing I don’t understand is that a marriage IS a Civil Union. What a waste of time and money!!!

By: lalalalala

lalalalala — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 19:30:36 +0000

Are we in Africa?

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:59:24 +0000

Um. Nope. You’re wrong.
What he’s talking about is already legal. Keep up.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:57:55 +0000

Shhh. You’ve been shown many times that you’re wrong.

Spreading a lie, over and over again, won’t make it true.

By: LiarLiar

LiarLiar — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:53:54 +0000

Yes it is.

Know your history.

By: Mr Sparkle

Mr Sparkle — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:49:48 +0000

And who cares? No cultural view should be treated any differently than another – we should respect everyone, not just your myopic view.

By: Onion Juice

Onion Juice — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:36:40 +0000

This Bull S!@# is not a part of African Culture.

By: Joe Public

Joe Public — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:10:40 +0000

Too late for you 2. The referendum is coming thank you OBA.

By: Anbu

Anbu — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:01:34 +0000

Turn your computer off bro. Sounds like you’re into some kinky stuff there.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 17:14:15 +0000

Of course it is all well and good that a hetrosexual couple engaged in that activity.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 16:54:40 +0000

Another thinly-veiled threat of violence.

Lovely.

By: Family Man

Family Man — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 16:14:59 +0000

It means separate, but equal … sort of.

By: Ed Case

Ed Case — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 16:13:13 +0000

Takbir, clearly you have a problem and should talk to someone. I can give you the number of a good psychiatrist. Obsessing this much over other people’s bedroom activities is not healthy. Get the help you need now.

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 15:56:18 +0000

Or much less on his property? hahah nerd

By: serengeti

serengeti — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 15:47:06 +0000

So you’re ok with them marrying each other as long as it’s not on your property. Well, if that’s right, then we seem to be getting somewhere.

By: Terry

Terry — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 15:46:54 +0000

I have known you 50 years Takbir.
Your Muslim convictions need some fine tuning.
Shalom.

By: serengeti

serengeti — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 15:45:40 +0000

I agree. The people most obsessed with food are the starving and the morbidly obese.

By: Build a Better Bermuda

Build a Better Bermuda — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 15:42:02 +0000

A complete waste of time to pay someone to draft this. Just fix the existing legislation to remove the discriminating sections. People are free to define marriage as they want, religions are free to define marriages as they want, but the standing of of marriage in law has to/must be equal to all who would commit to it. A marriage license carries with it legal rights and protections that must be applied equally under the law to those who would commit to it; this continued failure to recognize the deference between a religion definition and the requirements of the legal standings in a democracy is failing Bermuda and Bermudians on a whole. No one individual or group should ever be able to deny or void legal rights from another individual or group in a democracy, irregardless of majority consensus. The driving principle of democracy is equality under law, this is why there is a Human Rights Act, lessons learned from the past to ensure that rights are never denied to people again. Now we have the Civil Union Act, that by its very statute is establishing discrimination as it can only be for same sex couples; it is effectively saying that you can’t drink from our water fountain, so here is your own, separate and not equal. What if a different gender couple want a civil union rather than a marriage? Adding a supremacy clause to the existing legislation will ultimately fail as it is still an illegal violation of the Human Rights Act, that ultimately will fall before the courts; and for even further insult and degeneration, putting a discrimination list in the legislation that outlaws discrimination is even more undemocratic and an illegal violation of the Act, that too will ultimately fall before the courts.
All 36 members in the HoA are there to uphold the principles of democracy, it doesn’t matter how they feel religiously or personally, they are responsible for protection the equal legal rights of all who live and come to our shores, so it is time for them to step up to their higher responsibility and just grant marriage equality. Democracy demands it.

By: cowards

cowards — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 15:39:19 +0000

what wimps the OBA are. disgusted

By: Onion Juice

Onion Juice — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 15:15:06 +0000

Cup Match couple.
Mmmmm
If two guys did that I think it would’ve been a pretty ugly outcome.

By: Starting Point

Starting Point — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:55:46 +0000

So we seem to have both the OBA and PLP deciding that they are for human rights with one exception, that in the case of same sex marriage. And we have the ‘highly educated, and in no way just a religious group’ the preserve marriage folks seemingly in agreement. All standing behind the feeling that a healthy child can only be raised in a home with a mom and a dad.

It then only makes sense that these three organizations push forward to protect children by legislating that only a man and a woman in a recognized marriage as per the marriage act, may have and rear children. As the key argument from all the groups is that child safety is the priority, it would be hypocritical if they did not bring legislation forward to protect children from these vile single parent households.

or maybe its that they just find same sex marriage ‘icky’…

sigh.

By: Forethebest

Forethebest — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:47:26 +0000

I believe it to be wrong that politicians attempt to make themselves popular with certain voters by denying basic human rights to others.

By: SANDGROWNAN

SANDGROWNAN — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:43:16 +0000

LOL, the people most obsessed with same sex activity are those most vociferous against SSM. I think they protest too much.

By: hmmm

hmmm — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:35:52 +0000

Wouldn’t that be the same for a heterosexual couple enaging in sexual activites on your property or in your face space ?????

Takbir, you seem obsessed with sexual activity. I suggest seeking help.

By: jt

jt — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:34:03 +0000

So you support civil unions.

By: Starting Point

Starting Point — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:33:00 +0000

Do you often have people fondling each other, sleeping with each other and making love with each other – in your sight? and within sight of or the face of your family?

You some kind of pervert?

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:31:33 +0000

Too late. They can already do that, legally.

By: Lois Frederick

Lois Frederick — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:29:50 +0000

I gather from listening to Patricia Gordon Pamplin in the House last night, it is her hope, that having the debate about CUs in the House, will help inform the People about CUs and they might end up supporting that position in the Referendum. She said that many people disagreed with the idea of CUs without knowing what it even meant. I hope she is right. While I don’t like the route of a Referendum, I fully understand the politics surrounding this issue and understand why they are taking this route.

By: Takbir Karriem Sharrieff

Takbir Karriem Sharrieff — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:24:21 +0000

Male and Male living together,is not the problem!Female and female living together is not the problem.If they are kissing each other,fondling each other,sleeping with each other,making love with each other ,in my sight,on my property ,in a space which I control ,know that they will get out of my space,off my Property,and outta my face,and the face of my family………………

By: SANDGROWNAN

SANDGROWNAN — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:16:46 +0000

Shame on the OBA, shame on them and all that will deny people their rights.

A referendum is plain wrong.

By: jt

jt — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:05:05 +0000

As far as I know most members of that House, or the Senate have had the courage to declare where they stand on this issue. Very few have.

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:00:09 +0000

I don’t understand why table the civil union legislation and table the SSM referendum legislation as well on the same day.