Comments on: Roban: PLP Stands With St Paul AME Church

By: Whaa

Whaa — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 22:32:18 +0000

Who rents your houses?

By: Lobsta Tales

Lobsta Tales — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 14:48:40 +0000

Walter Roban -

no. The OBA has not given any impression of anything. it is the PLP jokers and those evil people at the church that are trying to paint an impression of the OBA with completely fabricated lies. The church effed up-ON PURPOSE to create this tension. connect the dots folks. this is the PLPAMEBIU making a DESPERATE last ditch attempt to reclaim power…..at the expense of EVERYONE IN BERMUDA! I am disgusted…..but not surprised.

By: Up D Hill

Up D Hill — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 13:00:33 +0000

@ wnltd,,Tweed aint Bermudian!! And just so everyone knows,,The AME church is one in the same as the peoples campaign/plp/biu and ubp turncoats!!

By: Charlie

Charlie — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 12:57:20 +0000

already did and haven’t looked back since – thanks very much

By: Grizz

Grizz — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 12:40:18 +0000

@REAL TALK Do you really think it’s only OBA people that have a problem with this? I am black and have been PLP my whole life but sometimes it goes beyond that. I don’t know if I am one of “those” people that make you sick but defending something whether you agree or not shouldn’t put you in a political bubble. And if “the CHURCH” is keeping you from going off on people, then the same “CHURCH” should keep you from getting sick of “them people”

By: Punch

Punch — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 12:07:23 +0000

According to the current law having a Bermudian father does not automatically mean you are Bermudian. You still have to apply for status and there is a time frame in which to do this. That is why we need a Pathway to Status. I had to go through this process myself even though my father was Bermudian, my family had been Bermudian for generations and we returned to Bermuda when I was 5 .

By: Grizz

Grizz — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:13:40 +0000

@Dark Fader What I see and what I deem as correct are two different things. I don’t care if there is a marriage between church and politics! IT SHOULDN’T BE!!! THAT’S PART OF THE DAMN PROBLEM!

By: mmm

mmm — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 01:39:18 +0000

Every country has immigration rules and policies, and the whole purpose is to protect and preserve the rights of those persons born in that country, various other conditions would also apply say if the person is born elsewhere of a bermudian parent. The rules in one country may be similar to our, but slightly different due a huge de pendence on on foreign capital, one might not notice what shapes their immigration policies when they are riding the crest of financial well-being. Or USA that rely heavily on cheap labour to farm their land, but flip the scrip when the economy went sour . In this case it appears that an application was not correctly filled out. Pastor Tweed touched the lives of the working class, the down and out, and brought a heightened awareness to the issues of the day. Immigration is a very hot, a very stormy issue in any country where one is seeking to put food on the table and keep a roof over their family,s heads, one does not want to have to endure difficult and unpleasant days . Which way this goes, I don,t know, many are watching.

By: sandy f

sandy f — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 00:51:17 +0000

THIS IS LIKE WATCHING A CIRCUS. COME ON DOWN “TRUMP” YOU WILL FIT RIGHT IN

By: sandy

sandy — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 00:44:03 +0000

I’m told a few of them wanted him gone a long time ago and replaced with a Bermudian, and one Steward no longer attends St. Paul and WHY have we not heard from the Presiding Elder who is “Head” of these AME Ministers.hmmmmmmm STRANGE !!

By: Punch

Punch — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 00:41:48 +0000

They have to apply!

By: Punch

Punch — Thu, 27 Oct 2016 00:33:41 +0000

Good to read this Mike. I was really condemning the AME church…..and I really could not understand their stance . Thanks for clarifying.

By: somuchless

somuchless — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:25:57 +0000

They’re confused

By: somuchless

somuchless — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:21:20 +0000

The plp can’t sing their slogan now.

By: mark

mark — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:05:48 +0000

Irony and hypocrisy are lost on tweed, the plp and the AME church i guess. Next they’ll be bringing in trump! Dont they see the humour in the fact that they have held this island hostage recently through their bullying tactics and disgusting xenophobia and now their foreign leader is being subject to the very laws they want enforced?!?! So hilarious and yet so sad how ignorant they are!

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 18:16:20 +0000

THE ENTIRE CONGREGATION OF ST. PAUL A.M.E IS NOT… I REPEAT NOT IN SUPPORT OF REV. TWEED!!!!!!!!!! AND EVERYONE COMPLAINING AND MARCHING DOES NOT EVEN ATTEND THE CHURCH! IGNORANCE AT ITS BEST. THIS CHURCH HAS SEEN MORE DRAMA SINCE THIS MAN BECAME MINISTER THAN EVER BEFORE. HE HAS LOST COUNTLESS MEMBERS, ENDED THE SENIOR CHOIR…AND THE LIST CONTINUES. SO UNLESS YOU ARE A MEMBER OF ST. PAUL, DO NOT SPEAK FOR ALL OF US!

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 18:04:33 +0000

THE LEADERSHIP OF THE AME CHURCH IS NOT SUPPORTING THE PLP OR THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!! JUST A SELECT FEW MEMBERS. PLEASE BELEIVE THAT AS A LONG STANDING MEMBER OF ST. PAUL,THESE STEWARTS AND TRUSTEES ARE NOT SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

By: haha really?

haha really? — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 17:17:16 +0000

If God has a plan for everyone, then this is his plan for Rev. Tweed. Right?

By: Tolerate

Tolerate — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:44:59 +0000

@Just asking… simple does not get the job done…..I read there is more comments on this topic than our youngsters killing each other… now that shows you how embarrassing, shameful, and backwards some are in Bermuda…. the same people who stood with him against Immigration change, demanding stricter rules and accountability will now stand with the same person who is flaunting the rules behind the cover of “it has always been this way”… but is that not the point; and why as of 2014 measures have been put in place…. so “it will NO LONGER continue to be that way”…thus protecting Bermudians… when you really think about it, you can’t make this ignorance up… the AME and now the PLP should be ashamed of themselves, as well as ANYBODY calling themselves “Bermudian” who defends this mess…. so you think the Immigration minister has something against you… than follow the rules…. you only look foolish and appear to be doing nothing more than inciting the masses… are the sheep that dumb….
A wise man follows his own decisions, a ignorant man follows public opinion… be a wise man my fellow Bermudians….

By: Its me again

Its me again — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:37:54 +0000

Then leave if it’s R.I.P bermuda

By: had enough

had enough — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:28:51 +0000

Rev. Tweed…his parents never filed the the proper paperwork, late once again. Not entitled to Bermudian Status so just accept it and stop pretending that he is.

By: Tolerate

Tolerate — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:26:25 +0000

Come on…. keep up….its a fact and a point the AME is using when they said the position is NOT advertised….smh

By: had enough

had enough — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:24:08 +0000

you even have to apply for a permit to have someone come in and speak at your church for an event.

By: Yahoo

Yahoo — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:32:27 +0000

He is kinda like a Kardashian… a celebrity clown. Circus is over Tweed, exit stage left.

By: freedom FROM religion

freedom FROM religion — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:14:53 +0000

You don’t automatically get the nationality of your parent(s). You have to apply and be approved. Many countries have very complex laws about dual-citizenships, citizenship by descent (i.e. you’re born outside of a country and/or it’s territories to only one national of that country who isn’t currently a resident of said country), Jus Soli, Jus Sanguinis etc

By: sadday

sadday — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:48:33 +0000

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read, I’m in total disbelief. The very people who started the whole let’s sit on the hill and complain about immigration and how people are taking Bermudian jobs, are actually seriously now saying this is an injustice?? You just can’t make this stuff up. Wow. If Tweed was a supporter of the other party and his permit was renewed without following the legal process, I’m pretty sure the PLP would be sitting up on that hill again drinking milkshakes and ruining everyone’s week. It’s really really really hard not to laugh at this!!

By: the truth will set you free

the truth will set you free — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:42:16 +0000

O.M.G. Because someone takes a stand against injustice that does not make them a political trouble maker. History has proven over and over again if you take a stand against injustice those in power will do anything and say anything to silence you. For example Dr. E. F. Gordon, Marcus Garvey. Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Walter Rodney, Fred Hampton, H. Rap Brown, Thomas Sankara and Yeshua who was nailed to a cross. They all have one thing in common they were not of European descent.

Because it is a known fact those of European descent do not take a stand against injustice and oppression. But they will be the first ones to say they did not own slaves. You do not have to own slaves but you have the same spirit of those who did.

By: Harry Buttle

Harry Buttle — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:17:07 +0000

Because Rev. Tweed’s does not qualify for Bermudian status under the current laws. I believe his father left Bermuda and Rev. Tweed was born abroad. Under the current law that means that he does not have a qualifying connection to Bermuda despite his having a Bermudian parent. Also complicating things is the many changes to the act since the 1950′s where things like discretionary grants of status are no longer allowed and the only way of getting status now is to marry a Bermudian.

So unfortunately despite his blood relationship with Bermuda, there is no “Pathway to Status” for him at present. Sounds crazy but that is the way the law is written. And he is not alone, there are lots of children of Bermudians who have no way of getting status because of where they were born – status laws are heavily dependent on being resident in Bermuda.

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:56:29 +0000

They can’t even spell it.

By: Ace Girl

Ace Girl — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:53:52 +0000

Hypocrisy at best Mr. Roban. Would you be fighting the good fight if this was any other expat? So sad for this country that this bias still continues. This decision was based on fact and procedure. It has nothing or should have nothing to do with who you are affiliated with politically.

By: Northshore

Northshore — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:39:19 +0000

Well said @ Kick Him out sooner, did you hear the news this am, Roban and Desilva interested in the PLP leadership? This PLP cartoon just keeps getting better!

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:38:12 +0000

I am sure Donald Trump is hiring teehee

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:37:38 +0000

no really lets move on folks hit the road Jack!

By: Northshore

Northshore — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:24:51 +0000

Roban and the defunct/in disarray PLP are unsure about thing. I would doubt all of whats left of the PLP stands by Tweed!

By: Zevon

Zevon — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:56:47 +0000

And who is doing the stealing, robbing and raping in Bermuda.

By: aceboy

aceboy — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:18:31 +0000

Of course the PLP stand with the AME church. Rev Tweed is their little *secret* weapon. The PLP stand with the church NOT following the law and proper procedure., That is for everyone else. The PLP think they and the AME church can do whatever they like.

By: Unprofessional

Unprofessional — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:15:23 +0000

Rubaine, why are you allegedly speaking for the PLP? You are not the leader! If Mark Bean has nothing to say then you are simply expressing your own opinion. An opinion that will come back and haunt you when another non-Bermudian is denied a work permit for the same reasons. You better be prepared to stand strong for breaking immigration rules for all.

By: Jahstice

Jahstice — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 09:59:00 +0000

Easy, you have to apply between the ages of 18-21 and be living here for 10 consecutive yrs.

By: Charlie

Charlie — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 09:05:08 +0000

Bye bye Tweedy. Don’t let the door of the priory hit you in the backside on your way out.

In time, the good rev will be a vague memory in the minds of a few.

Cheerio old boy.

By: Uk forever

Uk forever — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 08:23:13 +0000

Just listen to you Bermudians, and you wonder why all the younger generation are leaving the island.

By: Paradise

Paradise — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 08:05:30 +0000

…and non-Bermudian money is generated from the blood and sweat of BERMUDIANS….not to mention the relaxed laws and tax breaks you receive setting up companies in BERMUDA! Talk about ungrateful!

By: Paradise

Paradise — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:53:03 +0000

Again, where in my comments did I make a hateful threat?? The fact that you say that Bermudians are an ungracious bunch speaks volumes as if we owe you something! Remember you wouldn’t have it so good if it weren’t for you working in Bermuda…the reason why your here and not elsewhere! You said we all cant feed ourselves. Look at our history, Bermudians are a bunch of survivors and make the best of what we have regardless! I am in my early forties and I own 2 homes here and I can assure you its not due to the contribution of expats. Be careful what you say about anyone being ungrateful because it goes both ways!!

By: .am

.am — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 04:31:15 +0000

Depends whether or not they’re married.

By: Punch

Punch — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 03:24:43 +0000

My thoughts exactly. Of course his work permit was denied. They didn’t follow the process. Just do it.

By: Its me again

Its me again — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 03:23:48 +0000

Bad move from the PLP

By: So it goes .

So it goes . — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 02:38:35 +0000

Can’t take you people serious anymore. One minute your on the hill fighting for your so called Bermudians and now your fighting for a foreigner.

By: Build a Better Bermuda

Build a Better Bermuda — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 02:30:17 +0000

The past is the past, the current policy is that now they MUST, and the simple fact is they thought themselves above the law, so they didn’t. Arrogance and hypocrisy, the same thing they accuse the OBA of, yet they demostrate a far greater mastery of these arts than anyone else does or has. Seems the double standards that they have long riled against, has nothing to do with ending them and everything to do with them wanting to set them.

By: Onion

Onion — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 02:30:06 +0000

Not true. This fiasco makes it clear that many permits were not advertised under the PLP – the AME Minister’s, for one.

By: Build a Better Bermuda

Build a Better Bermuda — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 02:18:04 +0000

This the same Onion Juice that also said foreigners should stay out of politics, and anytime the PLP axed a foreigner out of our country for getting uppity in our affairs, revoked their permits and sent them packing… the word applied is hypocrite.
The OBA made it policy that work permit positions must be advertised or an exception must be petitioned and fee paid if granted, the simple fact is the AME and now the PLP have taken the stand that these protections are wrong, after creating so much fuss for so long that Bermudians must come first and the OBA does nothing to protect opportunities for Bermudians… the word applied is hypocrites.

By: de fence

de fence — Wed, 26 Oct 2016 02:16:04 +0000

Enjoy your fishing and farming.
Everything else, from tourism to importing groceries to health services to reinsurance is international business requiring foreign dollars.