Comments on: HRC “Disappointed” Legislation Been Introduced

By: bdaboy

bdaboy — Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:38:14 +0000

“We voted against the deed !”

The majority were against interracial marriage and the abolishing of slavery.
We should revisit that and reverse those rulings as well….that would make you and the rest of the bigoted plp happy.

By: rene

rene — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:26:05 +0000

Its unfortunate the PLP didnt take a stronger stance with this issue. If you read the Marriage Act, government grants licenses to members of the clergy, ships captains and in lieu of these options government allows you to marry via the Registrar General. This gives individuals who may have no religious affiliation the opportunity to marry. Similarily if you ever have to be in court to give evidence you have the option to swear on the Bible or Affirm to tell the truth. So clearly the Marriage Act was never intended to be available only to members of the Faith and thus has no religious significance. Thus for one group, “Preserve Marriage” to claim heterosexual marriage demeans marriage, is to claim a monopoly on an institution they dont own. Unfortunately the PLP didn’t honor the intent of the existing legislation in this regard.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:15:51 +0000

Discrimination for absolutely no reason is immoral.

Shame on you.

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:14:25 +0000

No. They don’t. That’s what the judge ruled.

The duty of the Government is to protect the minority from the oppression of the majority.

Marriage may not be a human right, but equal access to rights is.

By: JUNK YARD DOG

JUNK YARD DOG — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 21:02:53 +0000

This Has nothing to do with legality, it is about morality .

We voted against the deed !

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:59:16 +0000

Actually, the majority of Bermudians (myself included) has the power to elect the Government and the Government (in which I play no part) has the power to take away the “human” right of a gay person to marry the partner of his or her choice.

That is what this whole thread is about.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:52:47 +0000

Oh, come on OJ. You know that some people are more equal than others!

By: Mike Hind

Mike Hind — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 04:21:03 +0000

Are you seriously gloating about the Human Rights Commission losing power and influence?
The Human Rights Commission. The folks fighting for equality and fairness. THAT’s who you’re gloating about…

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:39:33 +0000

OJ is ‘clickbait’
I have a feeling that you’ll get it but I doubt that most others will .

By: Politricks

Politricks — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 21:54:49 +0000

I suggest you read the thousands of posts that OJ has penned as opposed to just looking at two.

My personal favorite was him stating ‘disgusting European culture’ when it comes to homosexuality.

So yes my opinion stands.

By: Mika

Mika — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 21:21:04 +0000

I hear Wayne want to be head of the HRC

By: clearasmud

clearasmud — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 21:11:43 +0000

This all seems a bit late from the HRC since they previously supported same sex marriage on human rights grounds even though they acknowledge now that all that was ever needed was equal legal rights. They sat back as the former government dropped the ball so they have lost some credibility.

By: Appollo Creed

Appollo Creed — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 20:37:51 +0000

That’s is true because all the people are leaving the oba/UBP. I tried my best to work with you OBA guys but the truth of the matter is you don’t care about certain segment on this Island. Still fronting surrogates to to act like leaders. The new leader is equal to watching paint dry.

By: Lualaba

Lualaba — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 20:28:40 +0000

Crown intervention is exactly what the PLP want… independence wil be around the corner

By: nerema

nerema — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 20:08:30 +0000

The majority do not have the power to obliviate human rights for everyone else.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:14:49 +0000

*looks up 2 posts* Umm, what did OJ say to make himself a “racist joke”?

I am not above contradicting OJ, but I think, Politicks, you are WAY off side this time.

If you are playing the race card willy nilly like that you have obviously run out of rational argument.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:10:57 +0000

Umm, Rocky, I think the people spoke in July. Do you think they were asleep when voting?

You may not like the PLP Government right now, but they are the Government that we Bermudians (by a majority) chose to govern us.

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:06:21 +0000

It’s why the OBA didn’t mess with the judges’ ruling . That was a neutral move compared to Walton’s regressive proposal .

You should sleep on that .

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:03:01 +0000

What’s the need for speaking up about something that’s already enshrined in the HRC laws ?

tic toc

By: Rocky5

Rocky5 — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:54:11 +0000

One more thing – the current HRC will ALL be replaced in January by PLP People

By: Rocky5

Rocky5 — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:51:25 +0000

There will be negative economic consequences but – 24 – 12 – PLP have the power to do whatever they want, case closed until enough people wake up…

By: bill

bill — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:43:27 +0000

don’t forget female on female we don’t want folks thinking u are ignorant

By: ramblings

ramblings — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:42:39 +0000

I believe that section 48 (2) gives this act precedent over the HRA… These guys are doing the best to make the HRA a worthless bit of legislation!!

By: bill

bill — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:41:45 +0000

the Governor needs to stop this nonsense and waste of money on something that is already passed law that money is needed badly where it matters wake up folks we are being hoodwinked and smoked screened by this issue Mr. brilliance need to give us a debt update as it ddi not magically disappear

By: Politricks

Politricks — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:28:57 +0000

But when the OBA had the majority, you claimed that they acted dictatorial in their decision making.

OJ you are a racist joke, that’s not even remotely funny.

By: Double S

Double S — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:27:02 +0000

Agreed. They need to speak up more against the PLP and their support of their supporters’ racism.

By: Onion Juice

Onion Juice — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:14:26 +0000

More like Civil Rights, fighting for Equal Rights is like catching water in a basket.

By: Onion Juice

Onion Juice — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:09:08 +0000

So what do you think Majority and Democracy have in common?
SMH

By: Onion Juice

Onion Juice — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:05:48 +0000

So when has HRC spoke up about Race in Bermuda?
Tic Toc

By: spider

spider — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:04:30 +0000

Now that same sex couples relationships have legal recognition I believe not allowing them to marry violates the Human Rights Act 1981 Article 2 by denying them access to the same contract (marriage) afforded to heterosexual couples. Looking forward to the legal challenges to the new redefinition of marriage afforded to same sex couples.

By: Beautiful

Beautiful — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:16:24 +0000

Last I checked the OBA was also about votes. That’s why they didn’t give you male on male marriage.

Now go back to sleep.

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:50:26 +0000

The underlying premise of this government is all about votes .

By: 21st Century

21st Century — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:27:10 +0000

Note the irony of the Government public forum held in the E.F. Gordon Memorial Hall, named after a man who fought for equal rights.

By: Can you get MILK from a BULL? NO

Can you get MILK from a BULL? NO — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:23:49 +0000

This was the best thing the OBA did for Bermuda.

Bill On Same Sex Marriage Defeated In Senate

The Human Rights Amendment 2016 — which seeks to maintain marriage as being defined as between a man and a woman — has been defeated in the Senate, with 6 Senators voting against the Bill, while 5 voted in favour of it

The Bill had already passed in the House of Assembly, however it failed to pass in the Senate this afternoon with James Jardine [IND], Michael Fahy [OBA], Georgia Marshall [OBA], Jeff Baron [OBA], Lynn Woolridge [OBA] and Kim Wilkerson [PLP] all voting against it.

YES VOTES

Joan Dillas-Wright [IND]
Vic Ball [OBA]
Marc Daniels [PLP]
Renee Ming [PLP]
Carol Bassett [IND]

NO VOTES

James Jardine [IND]
Michael Fahy [OBA]
Georgia Marshall [OBA]
Jeff Baron [OBA]
Lynn Woolridge [OBA]
Kim Wilkerson [PLP]

By: Reuben

Reuben — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:14:07 +0000

So if this bill passes does this not put the Bermuda Government in contempt of court given that it does not meet the judge’s ruling?

By: Cow Polly

Cow Polly — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:54:12 +0000

Disappointed? What will it take to make your organisation OUTRAGED?????

By: alistair

alistair — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:48:38 +0000

Totally agree with the HRC and as far as the consultation is concerned – that is a sham. If Govt was interested in consultation they would have prepared a white paper – they seem to be sadly missing over the last few years

By: Kevin

Kevin — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:42:50 +0000

Wayne Flip Flop Furbert wants people to remember him for doing something in his political career ,Nothing else he has done is even noteworthy but what a memory for all of your children and their children’s children to remember you by.. But to be clear if anytime in the future another MP wanted they can introduce a same Sex marriage bill and his will no longer be relevant

By: Truth is killin’ me...

Truth is killin’ me... — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:40:55 +0000

HRC…looks like you ain’t got no teeth dealing with the present Gov’t. Ain’t that SAD!! DEAL WITH IT!!!

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:32:46 +0000

The underlying premise of the Human Rights Commission is that gay people are human and deserve all the same rights as all other humans.

The underlying premise of the Government appears to be different.

By: Community First

Community First — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:30:13 +0000

Thank you Bermuda HRC for elevating our discussion and responding to the recent position by our Minister and our Bermuda Government.

The drive to step back on issues of Diversity and Inclusion on our island demonstrates that we don’t hold all areas of Diversity as equally valid, important and worthy of protection under law.

Of the nine diversity areas recognized globally, we protect only a few on our island. What does that say about our efforts towards equality and social justice?

Here are the nine areas: Age, Gender, Religion, Sexual Orientation, Race, Ethnicity, Class, Disability, and Nationality.