Comments on: Group Urges Government To Reform Immigration

By: aceboy

aceboy — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 11:13:13 +0000

If you asked any of those sign carriers who were squawking for Comprehensive Immigration Reform what that actually meant, I’ll bet the answer would have been “To keep those foreigners out”.

By: bda66

bda66 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:02:31 +0000

opportunities in the UK … you mean signing on the dole getting housing benefit, dole etc without contributing a penny to the UK government. I think that if somebody from Bermuda goes to the UK and signs on for benefits the social insurance from Bermuda should be transferred to the UK government.

By: bda66

bda66 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 15:58:44 +0000

real talk gross exaggerations .. not ever wp child. That is not what is being suggested, nor every expat … It brought the island to a stop because it wasn’t ‘sold’ correctly. plus it was like a bull in a china shop. Sort mixed status families, sort BOTC status, sort 20 plus years residents, etc …

The lack of immigration reform is costing Bermuda money as companies are going as the long term residents 25 years plus are going somewhere where there isn’t bigotry and xenophobic attitudes

By: bda66

bda66 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 15:54:30 +0000

lots of laughs … it is called the Bermuda diet …

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:22:39 +0000

No. No. No! That does not make for good polytricks!

By: Time Shall Tell

Time Shall Tell — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 14:19:14 +0000

If you followed PLP’s history from when they very first entered power, their first order then was to addess the issue of imigration. This was after the then UBP failed to address the the issue, funny how history repeats. Again you’re either for it or against it, why would you say you’re for it but grumble about it happening.. Can’t please everyone I guess.

By: hmmmm

hmmmm — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:32:05 +0000

THE FACT REMAINS THAT STUPID IDEAS LIKE THIS COST THE OBA THE LAST ELECTION BUT SINCE YOU RECEIVED YOUR STATUS FROM THE SAME EQUATION YOU WOULDN’T THINK LIKE THAT. RIGHT X MINISTER??

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 10:25:44 +0000

You’re thinking of the Bermuda skink , they are endemic to Bermuda. The Warwick lizard was introduced by accident sometime in the 1950′s

By: Answer

Answer — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 02:45:48 +0000

You’re the one who said there are more important topics. Like fighting court cases to restrict human rights, that sort of thing.
Yes, I’m for immigration reform. That doesn’t mean doing soecial favours for personal friends of Chris Furbert.

By: Bluebird

Bluebird — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:27:21 +0000

I’m guessing you didn’t read the article completely. The PLP promised to complete immigration reform in their platform. For the Premier to state that he completed 20 out of 21 of his pledges is false because he never mentioned that the one he never completed was immigration. In fact he never speaks about immigration reform or where it stands. How do you know immigration reform is happening behind the scenes because the only people that we hear from about immigration is from this group. Just like pressure was applied to other issues why can’t it be applied to immigration reform? Would you say all those other issues that the PLP applied pressure to was an ulterior motive.

By: Knowledge Is Power

Knowledge Is Power — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:58:23 +0000

You only see black and white. The past was messed up. We learn from other people’s mistakes, evolve and move forward positively. There will be people that hate but why add yourself to that group? Communication is key. If the past didn’t happen you most likely wouldn’t have been born and/or Bermuda could have been settled by Russians. Who knows. Why can’t we all get along? You have so much hate. Why don’t you comment on the positive news for once sourpuss. We are blessed living on the tip of this ancient dormant volcano that I Love to call home. Peace and Love!

By: campervan

campervan — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:58:27 +0000

Cayman is eating ya lunch.
We just keep shipping the expats out.
Its crazy.
Many jobs are mobile. Dont we get it yet?
Are we not hurting enough yet?
How long before the res pop is 40k and health insurance is 3k a month pp?
Think beyond the knee jerk anti expat reaction.

By: Dae

Dae — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:43:50 +0000

They are too busy with burtcoinand they don’t care

By: Retro

Retro — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:40:50 +0000

Agenda? Who has an agenda? Kids that have never lived anywhere else? People who have contributed to society for many years ? Where does the conspiratol rhetoric come from ? If you can answer that last one that’s where you will find the people with agendas.

By: Time Shall Tell

Time Shall Tell — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:34:24 +0000

So are you for the granting or are you against it? Or is it more important to you who it was granted to?

By: Retro

Retro — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:30:29 +0000

Uh, except that they did campaign against immigration reform. Unless you believe the People’s Campaign and the PLP had nothing to do with each other,of course.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:09:12 +0000

I would say the last remaining “real Bermudians” would be the Bermuda cedar trees and Warwick skinks. Everyone else is an import, from Sir George Summers to the Uighurs and beyond.

By: Think before you Act

Think before you Act — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 18:11:21 +0000

Government think hard before you grant PRC or Status to work permit holders but more immediate is the need to undertake an investigation of non-Bermudian workers on Island breaking current immigration laws. There are many non-Bermudian children of work permit holders working multiple jobs as is the work permit holder themselves. Immigration needs to start investigating. When the household spends more money than the household has in earnings from the work permit holder and his/her one job, an investigation needs to be undertaken. How does someone earning minimum earnings as a busboy or gardener as per their work permit, have enough money to spend their children to college off the Island? That should trigger an investigation.

By: Larry M

Larry M — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:55:04 +0000

So let me get this straight. We have a group of immigrants telling our government what it needs to do to facilitate their selfish agenda according to what they feel is ‘fair’? At least two of the categories they propose for status would not even be considered in many other jurisdictions as they are just too vague and ambiguous. Basically a ‘let anyone who applies’ enjoy status.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:52:50 +0000

Fair enough, but this story is not about Rev. Tweed.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:40:07 +0000

“An election platform promise is something that will be done within the term of 5 years.”

Really? That is not how I interpret election platform promises … I consider them to be empty rhetoric designed to get my vote.

By: Anbu

Anbu — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:39:03 +0000

Cant all enjoy cupmatch tho. Burch wont allow it.

By: Anbu

Anbu — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:37:42 +0000

You meen like tweed? Sorry genevieve.

By: Anbu

Anbu — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:32:33 +0000

They cant. Jahmal or walton prob told them to say it.

By: Anbu

Anbu — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:30:56 +0000

If you are born and raised in bermuda then u are a bermudian. Seriously? Will someone please for once identify what an actual “real bermudian” is. We see way too much use of the term and im pretty sure nobody has a clue what it is. Not attacking u joe just wondering what the actual term “real bermudian” is.

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:08:16 +0000

The fact remains that there is a declining population, and we need to broaden the tax base to pay for the 14 years of incompetence and current “grand plan”. For that you need demand for goods and services, it’s basic economics basically, and you need to encourage people to stay in Bermuda. You need to grow the population.

Despite the pissing and moaning of the “combined opposition” during the last Parliament, and bs about birthright and “real Bermudians” that still remains the reality.

By: gotcha

gotcha — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:06:35 +0000

Given that they hardly promised anything it’s amazing they haven’t achieved everything yet.
The only things they promised were to ‘set up a committee for this’ and ‘review that’. Big deal.
They did promise to review the airport contract and change it to get better terms, but we understand Burt only promised that because he doesn’t understand the meaning of the word ‘contract’.

By: inna

inna — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:56:26 +0000

You mean the pressure group Peoples Campaign? They seem to have disappeared.. just like the mold in the schools.

Funny how a change in government results in a change in attitudes!!

By: Double S

Double S — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:35:56 +0000

Xenophobia and racism don;t need common sense. They thrive off of myopic views.

And the hilarious thing is that these are the same commentators who hate Trump and purportedly loved Obama, despite the fact that they subscribe to the former’s ideology.

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:31:30 +0000

Every day, when I think Onion Vomit cannot get any more stupid, he/she astounds me again!

By: watching

watching — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:21:44 +0000

An election platform promise is something that will be done within the term of 5 years. It has only been 1 year. Just because the immigration reform hasn’t begun doesn’t mean work isn’t happening behind the scenes, and for this group to apply public pressure seems like they have ulterior motives. let the Minister and his team do their research and come up with their proposed policies and then respond accordingly.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:21:43 +0000

The people you are talking about are not “real Bermudians”

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:09:41 +0000

Those are just legacy applications under 20B.

By: Onion Juice

Onion Juice — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:02:09 +0000

Well if you know about Bermuda’s History of gentrfication (influx of Europeans to conter the growing Black population), I would say this is an important subject.

By: gotcha

gotcha — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:52:28 +0000

Oh yes. Important things like changing the dates of public holidays. Passing legislation to restrict human rights. Funding government litigation to challenge human rights. Much more pressing stuff.

By: Double S

Double S — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:48:21 +0000

Unfortunately, our right-wing Government has no interest and no empathy for the likes of such people. Now if they looked different it would be a different story. They don’t consider most people in such a predicament to be human much less Bermudian.

By: Real Talk

Real Talk — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:40:46 +0000

Persons who were born in Bermuda or who arrived at a young age.
Definition = every work permit holders child!!!!

Persons who have become thoroughly integrated into Bermudian society through their long-term presence in Bermuda.
Definition = every work permit holder!!!

Persons who have otherwise made a significant contribution to Bermudian society that they are deserving of recognition.
Definition = every work permit holder!!!

Now look back and ask michael fahy oba/UBP how this worked for him!! They didn’t even run the man in the election because it agitated so many Bermudians. Brought the entire island to a STOP!!! Things like this cost the OBA the last election. We had white and black Bermudians objecting to this crazy talk.

Now back to Cup Match which is something we all can enjoy:)

By: zzzzz

zzzzz — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:08:25 +0000

Yes and no. The economy and inward investment are probably at or near the top of the list with education. One issue this island has is retaining money earned in Bermuda within the local economy. Those without long term ties to the island are not going to invest here so immigration and the economy are very closely linked. Obviously it’s a balancing act for the government of the day, fortunately David Burt is a smart man and will hopefully be able to navigate the middle ground for Bermuda’s long term benefit.

Unfortunatly education is a much harder nut to crack particularly with our largely racially segregated system.

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:07:40 +0000

How many is that? Absolute numbers or % of applicants please?

And, if you can stop dribbling fro a moment, what is actually wrong with that?

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:06:32 +0000

“.. know that it has taken away many jobs from Bermudians…”

You’re going to have to provide evidence for such an idiotic statement.

By: aceboy

aceboy — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:05:37 +0000

That poor woman who starved herself on smoothies while sitting on the Hill almost died in her quest for comprehensive immigration reform!

By: Answer

Answer — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:02:25 +0000

And yet the FIRST THING the PLP did when getting power was to grant a work permit to someone who had been turned down by Dept Immigration.
Two Bermudas.

By: Black Soil

Black Soil — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 07:40:32 +0000

Our Premier needs to get off his derriere and lead.

By: mixitup

mixitup — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 04:46:13 +0000

fine.. But do not reward anyone who has slighted the law with some companies help by having their “Work Permit” rolled and rolled and rolled, all while that qualified Bermudian could not get that job…. not to mention the guest workers brother or girlfriend also working here, this while the Bermudian has to find opportunities in the U.K.
What people don’t realize is that there are many people on this Island and have been on this Island via overstayed permits or by the Boss “doing a favor.” This has to be tightened up before any immigration reform happens.

By: Retro

Retro — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 04:37:29 +0000

How is it possible ,that in the year of 2018, that somebody could have such a myopic view of economics ! We have already had a shrinking of the expat population. It proved to be disastrous to the economy and we are most definitely still paying the price for that. Also, if memory serves me correct the job makers act was a Plp policy.

By: Time Shall Tell

Time Shall Tell — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 02:52:50 +0000

More important topics on the table at the moment, wait in line.

By: Jim Bob

Jim Bob — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 01:43:27 +0000

Can they also get rid of PRC under the job makers act as well? This has arguably been one of the most regressive policies and only serves to keep and protect expat jobs. It appears that the OBA was giving it to just about anyone and whilst it appears good in theory I know that it has taken away many jobs from Bermudians. Get rid of the job makers act. It is a broken Act.

By: Little girl

Little girl — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 01:01:54 +0000

Meanwhile whilst this drags on and with no resolution in sight ,there are people who’s lives are shattered . Children who are born here and now have deep ties to Bermuda cannot get on with their lives because they do not know where to turn or settle . Do they leave and fear that they will never be allowed back to be with their families and live on the island they call home ?Do they stay out of fear of never being able to return and give up the opportunity to gain education and expierience abroad knowing if they leave they may never be allowed back .We have young adults that are now culturally Bermudian ,many with family members that have status but are now being told after a lifetime of living and growing up here that they don’t belong . Absolute travesty !

By: SayItAintSo

SayItAintSo — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 00:45:08 +0000

Seems like they are letting a lot of people slide through the system while they deliberate. Crazy how many people are getting status at the moment.

By: Hope

Hope — Wed, 25 Jul 2018 23:55:54 +0000

Can the minister commit to any timelines on delivery of the recommendations? Or give information on how often the Bipartisan Committee on Immigration Reform have met since October 2017? How many hours have they spent deliberating this subject? What topics have been discussed? All of this information should be readily available based on the agenda and minutes from these meetings….if they occurred.