Comments on: OBA & PLP On Independence Talk Claims

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:46:35 +0000

If I understand your meaning of “elite” properly, you can be assured that they are already diversified and that most of their money is not invested in Bermuda.

It is not so much the whether the elite “and their money pull out of here” as whether the “elite” and their tax dollars (on current income) pull out of here.

By: Bermudian

Bermudian — Mon, 28 Sep 2020 19:13:15 +0000

You know I keep reading and hearing negative comments about ‘elite’ members of society. This island is going to NEED the elite’s money in Bermuda if this place ever goes independant. Once the ‘elite’ and their money pull out of here, we’re doomed. Only fools believe we will prosper as independant. Do your research about all the other places that went independant and see how they’re doing. So many hate the English rule but are quick to scatter over there. Voting for independance is voting for a bleak and poor future for your children.

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 21:24:15 +0000

Pity you don’t proofread before hitting ‘submit’ .

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 18:45:28 +0000

“Leadership to map out our future”? How about any “relationship map”? The whole POINT of going independent is to stand on our own two feet, right? Well that’s all well and good but we have ZERO relationships, at the minimum superficially, with any other country. You mean to tell me that Bermuda will get what it wants up against any other larger country? Who’s going to negotiate for us? Where are our great statesmen or stateswomen? Not a chance in hell that Bermuda will even succeed ESPECIALLY when we have zero check and balances. We can’t even find the guy who stole the 800k by ourselves!

Independence? Oh please.

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:06:37 +0000

*When the UBP put Independence on the table, the PLP chose to not to support independence and told their supporters to vote against the referendum.*

Back then , something a lot of people don’t know , is that the UBP had produced a comprehensive report that contained every possible question regarding independence . There was an answer for all those questions with checks and balances for each one .
When the PLP read the report they didn’t like the look of independence the UBP way and threw it in the trash.
Surely there must still be a copy of that report somewhere that someone could dig out and present to us again so we could all have a look at what it was that the PLP didn’t like.

By: newperspective

newperspective — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 14:30:33 +0000

I agree! Stakes are too high. And, remember, the UK will have the last say. There will need to be a meaningful majority before they even consider such, or negotiate such a move.

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 14:08:05 +0000

I wouldn’t trust ANY political party to take Bermuda to independence….certainly not the PLP anyway with their 3 billion dollar debt. The way the Bermuda Government is set up is not appropriate to going independent anyway. We don’t have any check and balances nor any safe guards if things go sideways. Even now, we have very little oversight on how things are done in Govt.
You want to go independent with 3 billion in debt and no chance in hell of balancing that debt? Uh no thanks.

By: newperspective

newperspective — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:54:08 +0000

When the UBP put Independence on the table, the PLP chose to not to support independence and told their supporters to vote against the referendum.

Back then we, even when our economy was showing signs of decline, I was open to the idea of considering independence. But the UBP could not convince me that it would be beneficial for Bermudians.

We are worse-off today economically, declining population, increasing national debt. Still no resources we can rely on, and no real leadership to map out our future. Bermuda’s uncertain future will not be solved by “getting off our mother’s ???”.

The PLP had their chance 25 years ago and they botched an opportunity. They also revisited the issue back in 2006? Even then the majority of Bermudians were against independence, and I suspect they still do.

Get on with real issues, like saving jobs for Bermudians, real efforts to reducing the national debt!!

Cannonier/Burt, stop the American way of politics…. lie, cheat, and deflect.

By: Rhonda

Rhonda — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:34:25 +0000

I don’t have an issue with talks..

If Bermuda is to go independent..it would certainly help if it’s amicable…

Non the less a referendum will decide..

This is OBA’s desperate attempts at scaring the ill informed… for his own political gains..

By: Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:01:52 +0000

Craig obaubperrr resigned because 350K was given to him by a hoteler for the OBA, but they never received it. are the voters ok since it was not tax payer money.

By: Now Ya Nice

Now Ya Nice — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 00:33:46 +0000

Going Independent is not free. Its not as simple as sending a letter to tbe Governor and saying we want to go at it alone. It comes with a literal price. And where does the PLP gbink we will get tbe money? Borrow more.?

EVERYONE thinking about independence should watch the documemtary LIFE and DEBT. Its ghe sorry of Jamaica and its stoey as it sought independance.They went fromnpowerhouse to poverty

By: Question

Question — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:26:13 +0000

Well said.

By: Jevon Ray

Jevon Ray — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:18:33 +0000

Going independent would be no different than how WE already run the country. Our constitution was set up for the inevitably of us going independent. What makes people think that we would need a Visa in the first place? This would all boil down to our negotiations with the USA and Canada. We need to finally get off our mother’s tit.

By: Sandals

Sandals — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:55:09 +0000

Even Burt, deep down, knows Independence is a stupid idea.

By: Question

Question — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:58:17 +0000

If we’re independent we can forget getting access to vaccine for the next couple of years.

By: Boston Whaler Owner

Boston Whaler Owner — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:49:11 +0000

Bermuda will NEVER go Independent!

Keep drinking the Kool Aid,it’s making Family and Friends RICH!

By: Vortex

Vortex — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:23:28 +0000

Lots in Independence, but it boils down to a few things.

Do you want to have to get a visa every time you visit the USA?
If yes, then support Independence.

Why do you think we did such a good job with Covid?
Because the UK sourced cheaply all the equipment. All of it.

And we are kind of Independent anyway, it won’t change anything and we all support Liverpool, United, Arsenal etc anyway. Oh and you’ll need a visa to go to the UK too.

By: Ringmaster

Ringmaster — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:22:01 +0000

Facts put paid to the PLP response as a bare faced lie. The UBP put a referendum to the people in 1995 that the PLP boycotted and the people voted against.
Craig Cannonier resigned as a matter of principle, unlike Dr Brown (uighur human trafficking) and now Premier Burt (proven incompetence with tax payer money).
Why ask the Opposition leader to approach IB if Premier Burt is such a strong leader? Clearly he knows IB does not trust him.
Like Watergate, listen to the tapes.

By: Adrian

Adrian — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:12:10 +0000

Let’s put this into context! The UN declared years ago that territories should be independent, free of colonialism! Are islands to the south have not feared well once gaining independence, but now Barbados is getting rid of the queen! So maybe we are mature enough to educate the public and decide it by election!

By: red rose

red rose — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:34:02 +0000

more people buy walmart that gucci

By: newperspectiva.

newperspectiva. — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:55:55 +0000

Neither party would get my support on going independent! In fact,I would do whatever I could to start a movement to stop what these fools are allegedly considering. One party wants a Gucci bag business model and the other a walmart model. In this global economy, neither model has worked well for the people of Bermuda, only special interest.