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		<title>By: mamaligadoc</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2020/12/driver-rescued-after-car-crashes-overboard/#comment-5407753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mamaligadoc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2020 09:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With respect !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paz</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2020/12/driver-rescued-after-car-crashes-overboard/#comment-5407639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2020 01:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SMH,

Thank you for the response.  

To be honest, I was disappointed in your initial response complete with personal insults.  So you know, I would never ask a god for support in a crisis.  I can say this honestly as I have had cancer for the past 20 years, the latest bout a few years of the infections, ICU, infections and  sepsis - the near death kind. It would not occur to me to ask for divine intervention.  Even when I was a sort-of believer I felt silly considering it.  

I don’t believe in gods because there is no evidence that they exist.  The claims of godly intervention continue to be debunked by science.  If we believe things without evidence then we can believe just about anything - conspiracy theories included.  I would be happy if there was a god - a loving god - with a promising afterlife. 

There is a huge inconsistency in the way people give their gods credit for certain good things and impunity for others.  I’m simply pointing that out.

On free will and choice, I do not think that we have complete free will.  Our neural pathways are formed when we are young.  A young person who has always seen their parent or parents respond to stress with violence will do the same.  I can hardly blame them.  I can’t say they could have chosen otherwise. That seems unlikely.  Our nature and nurture limit the choices under which we can express our, so called, free will.

On the math questions, I would say that the laws of mathematics are “revealed” to exist and to be true.  They are “discovered” by a person but they need to be proven using the physical properties and logic.  I assume that you are angling for a discussion on whether your God was “discovered” or “invented” and am curious as to your perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMH,</p>
<p>Thank you for the response.  </p>
<p>To be honest, I was disappointed in your initial response complete with personal insults.  So you know, I would never ask a god for support in a crisis.  I can say this honestly as I have had cancer for the past 20 years, the latest bout a few years of the infections, ICU, infections and  sepsis &#8211; the near death kind. It would not occur to me to ask for divine intervention.  Even when I was a sort-of believer I felt silly considering it.  </p>
<p>I don’t believe in gods because there is no evidence that they exist.  The claims of godly intervention continue to be debunked by science.  If we believe things without evidence then we can believe just about anything &#8211; conspiracy theories included.  I would be happy if there was a god &#8211; a loving god &#8211; with a promising afterlife. </p>
<p>There is a huge inconsistency in the way people give their gods credit for certain good things and impunity for others.  I’m simply pointing that out.</p>
<p>On free will and choice, I do not think that we have complete free will.  Our neural pathways are formed when we are young.  A young person who has always seen their parent or parents respond to stress with violence will do the same.  I can hardly blame them.  I can’t say they could have chosen otherwise. That seems unlikely.  Our nature and nurture limit the choices under which we can express our, so called, free will.</p>
<p>On the math questions, I would say that the laws of mathematics are “revealed” to exist and to be true.  They are “discovered” by a person but they need to be proven using the physical properties and logic.  I assume that you are angling for a discussion on whether your God was “discovered” or “invented” and am curious as to your perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: SMH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SMH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that sometimes people attribute things to God that had nothing to do with Him if that’s what you’re asking. For example, someone chain smoked everyday of their lives and they eventually end up with cancer and inevitably you’ll hear someone say that they guessed it was God’s will... no the person smoked everyday.  It sounds to me (from your original response) that you have a problem with the “God” concept because He doesn’t fit your logic or your can’t wrap your mind around the concept if a good God exist then why doesn’t He prevent bad things from happening to good/innocent people and/or why do good things happen to bad people. That’s an interesting topic that’s been debated for ages.  One possible retort of many is that “if God does does exist and He undid or prevented every bad decision we made before they negative effected us, then He’d have effectively taken away our power of choice” and biblically speaking that’s something that He gave to man so he’d be contradicting Himself... that’s just one argument.  Question to you... in your opinion was math invented or discovered?  I like these types of conversations.  We can agree to disagree on some topics and others we’ll end up agreeing on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that sometimes people attribute things to God that had nothing to do with Him if that’s what you’re asking. For example, someone chain smoked everyday of their lives and they eventually end up with cancer and inevitably you’ll hear someone say that they guessed it was God’s will&#8230; no the person smoked everyday.  It sounds to me (from your original response) that you have a problem with the “God” concept because He doesn’t fit your logic or your can’t wrap your mind around the concept if a good God exist then why doesn’t He prevent bad things from happening to good/innocent people and/or why do good things happen to bad people. That’s an interesting topic that’s been debated for ages.  One possible retort of many is that “if God does does exist and He undid or prevented every bad decision we made before they negative effected us, then He’d have effectively taken away our power of choice” and biblically speaking that’s something that He gave to man so he’d be contradicting Himself&#8230; that’s just one argument.  Question to you&#8230; in your opinion was math invented or discovered?  I like these types of conversations.  We can agree to disagree on some topics and others we’ll end up agreeing on.</p>
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		<title>By: frustrated</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frustrated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2020 17:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t that the driver&#039;s responsibility?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that the driver&#8217;s responsibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Paz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SMH, I agree that people do silly things under pressure.  They will believe in things that have no evidence tha give them hope and answer the, as yet, unexplained.

Do you have a more thoughtful response to the issue of your god’s seemingly random and inconsistent blessing allotment?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMH, I agree that people do silly things under pressure.  They will believe in things that have no evidence tha give them hope and answer the, as yet, unexplained.</p>
<p>Do you have a more thoughtful response to the issue of your god’s seemingly random and inconsistent blessing allotment?</p>
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		<title>By: saud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[saud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2020 03:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve never been on a plane in your life, you poor assed fool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve never been on a plane in your life, you poor assed fool.</p>
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		<title>By: SMH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SMH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paz please go sit down in a corn somewhere.  Folks like you crack me up.  I just love sitting next to your type on a plane when it’s so bad the stewardesses are anxious and all of a sudden for about 10 minutes you find “Jesus”  or you start reevaluating your philosophies regarding a deity.   Like I said go sit down and zip your lip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paz please go sit down in a corn somewhere.  Folks like you crack me up.  I just love sitting next to your type on a plane when it’s so bad the stewardesses are anxious and all of a sudden for about 10 minutes you find “Jesus”  or you start reevaluating your philosophies regarding a deity.   Like I said go sit down and zip your lip.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real Deal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know that water is cold because i have been in there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that water is cold because i have been in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Paz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am happy she survived.

And all the thousands of others that die in car accidents were just unlucky or unworthy to get such a blessing. And children dying of cancer as we speak, with their parents praying and begging to their deity for some pity only to have their child die a slow painful death. I guess they were just unworthy.  Yes, he works in mysterious ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy she survived.</p>
<p>And all the thousands of others that die in car accidents were just unlucky or unworthy to get such a blessing. And children dying of cancer as we speak, with their parents praying and begging to their deity for some pity only to have their child die a slow painful death. I guess they were just unworthy.  Yes, he works in mysterious ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Triangle Drifter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Triangle Drifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 20:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those wooden fences sure are effective. When will Bermuda catch up with the times &amp; install proper steel crash barriers designed to keep vehicles on the road?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those wooden fences sure are effective. When will Bermuda catch up with the times &amp; install proper steel crash barriers designed to keep vehicles on the road?</p>
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		<title>By: Looking glass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Looking glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the driver is lucky that someone saw her car overboard. It would only take a minute or two to succumb to drowning. that was a blessing from God there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the driver is lucky that someone saw her car overboard. It would only take a minute or two to succumb to drowning. that was a blessing from God there.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston Whaler Owner</title>
		<link>https://bernews.com/2020/12/driver-rescued-after-car-crashes-overboard/#comment-5406292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boston Whaler Owner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hope they gave her a breath test]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hope they gave her a breath test</p>
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