Comments on: Premier On Taxes, Change, Immigration & More

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 16:23:57 +0000

“The majority of Bermudians are selfish and bigoted”

Please do not make such generalised statements about us. Such a statement is untrue and offensive.

By: saud

saud — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 15:21:16 +0000

Yes, it is obvious.
The majority of Bermudians are selfish and bigoted.
It’s obvious to anyone who glances this way.
Being proud of this, in 2021, is just sad.

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 13:01:37 +0000

The failed OBA experiment was the only beacon of economic light in the last 23 years. Now we are back to the PLP economy. How well is that going?

The fact that the OBA were flat footed and appalling at politics doesn’t negate the fact that they were competent and the the PLP are failures and have saddled generations of Bermudians with unsustainable debt. The PLP have turned Bermuda into a third world sh*t hole.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 11:46:51 +0000

“If it’s a minority, as you suggest, why do they have the will of the government?”

Because that vocal minority is at the core of the Progressive Liberal Party. The PLP Government is spending millions of dollars on legal fees to appease a segment of the Progressive Liberal Party. I would have thought that was obvious.

“Does anyone in Bermuda know about democracy?”

Yes, but at 30-6 it is in critical condition.

By: Advice?

Advice? — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 04:46:02 +0000

Just Advice,
You appear to hate white people, gay people and the OBA.
You’re comments are condescending, and libelous.
You’re clearly not a very nice person, please crawl back into your hate filled hole.
Thanks, and have a good night.

By: Paul'

Paul' — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 03:42:57 +0000

The oba and their 6 UBP seats lolol

By: saud

saud — Tue, 02 Feb 2021 23:57:07 +0000

If it’s a minority, as you suggest, why do they have the will of the government?
Does anyone in Bermuda know about democracy?

By: saud

saud — Tue, 02 Feb 2021 23:55:08 +0000

“What do I know though”

Obviously, very little.

By: saud

saud — Tue, 02 Feb 2021 23:52:08 +0000

Hypocrite.
your PLP is blatantly homophobic…fix that before you spew your hypocrisy.
You have absolutely no credibility. Your government discriminates based on sexual preference.
Grow up.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Sun, 31 Jan 2021 14:16:08 +0000

“I think the majority want to discriminate against the LGBT community”

I think you are wrong. It think it is vocal minority who want to discriminate.

As I was saying several years ago when the debate was raging, take out the word “homosexual” and replace it with the word “black” and see what your argument looks like

By: Soon come bro

Soon come bro — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:25:48 +0000

Don’t worry the next election the OBA will be crushed by the FDM. Than we will have 2 parties PLP vs FDM.

Whites and blacks will finally have balance, in their choosing between the 2.

By: Come Correct

Come Correct — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 16:51:28 +0000

We had the BDA yes but they were taken over by the racist UBP in many voters minds which created this failed experimental party called the OBA!

By: saud

saud — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 15:23:32 +0000

I think the majority want to discriminate against the LGBT community so badly, that they’re willing to grovel at the feet of the privey council in order to do so.

By: Toodle-oo

Toodle-oo — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 14:44:25 +0000

Actually they did put out a list but I can’t remember if it was last year or the year before that I saw it.
It might not have been a comprehensive list either , maybe just the largest offenders.
The interesting thing was that 99% of the names on it were not people and businesses that the kool-ade drinkers thought they’d be so maybe for that reason we haven’t heard much since.

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:58:37 +0000

Wish there was a like button. “Bermuda does not manufacture anything”. It was our tax structure that made us what we our today.

LOL

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:56:49 +0000

Racial rhetoric and Identity politics have destroyed us and the world. Any semblance of peace is gone. The whole time the rich plotted this to keep us divided knowing exactly how to push our buttons and we let them do it. See China on propaganda tactics to understand how this happened. Look at the upheaval in the world for proof. Classism is and always will be the issue. What do I know though I’m an outsider looking in.

LOL

By: LOL (original)

LOL (original) — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:52:14 +0000

The way things are looking the world will rip itself apart before that. The great reset is here. “you will own nothing and you will be happy”

LOL

By: This needs to happen

This needs to happen — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:35:42 +0000

BINGO!!!!!!!!

By: This needs to happen

This needs to happen — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:35:17 +0000

BINGO!!!!!!!!

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:01:45 +0000

“Why don’t they publish a list of companies who don’t pay Payroll Tax, or individuals who don’t pay Land Tax?”

Because they are not people with “historic wealth”.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 12:58:32 +0000

“The civil service requires further streamlining and out sourcing to reduce costs just as any other business has to change to survive.”

Heresy!

By: Question

Question — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 12:01:57 +0000

Why don’t they publish a list of companies who don’t pay Payroll Tax, or individuals who don’t pay Land Tax? They don’t collect the taxes currently, but now they want to steal our wages.

By: anon

anon — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:38:37 +0000

Was going to try and get out and spend more after vaccine, but with this uncertainty guess not.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 10:42:50 +0000

It is unfair to blame the PLP entirely. After all, 30-6. The overwhelming majority of Bermudians do not want a UBP style Government. They want change, but there is no viable alternative.

The people who started the BDA had a great idea, but they were hijacked and are unlikely to try again.

By: Me too

Me too — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:54:42 +0000

Me too – well done mate! Let these fools figure their bleak futures out! We are in relaxed mode having earned our future!

By: Smith

Smith — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:16:35 +0000

The best party was the UBP but they also got lost in their racial devision. The oba has did the same move every election. Bash the plp and run black people to the frontline to trick the voters into thinking its a black ruling party. Sad and true.

If only the OBA and PLP would work together we would have a win win. My wish is that the next election the FDM crushes the OBA and than we will only have the PLP and OBA to choose from.

By: jollyroger

jollyroger — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:15:18 +0000

I just told you it DOES go very far. Listen.
I save $100k a years and have done for 18 years. It goes very far for people like me

By: Just advice

Just advice — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:04:46 +0000

Everything they wrote is true. As a black Bermudian you really dont see how your tune sets other black voters off and turns them away from voting for the oba. I used to be a member so please listen. You appear to dislike blacks and the PLP. The oba will never regain the government with bloggers like you. Your nasty comments get lost in any message you write. You have a good night and remain safe during this winter storm.

By: Lol (original)

Lol (original) — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 00:53:28 +0000

And this starts Bermuda’s part in the great reset. By 2030 if you have not made it. You will own nothing and you will be happy…

Trump was stalling this buy nothing to stop the globalist now. Certinely not either of our political parties. They dont want to end up like the rest so will sell their souls and us up the river. Ie finacial slavery. Look at the patern the is just went through now its here. Both parties have the same advisors.

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:26:56 +0000

Bingo!

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:22:17 +0000

Nice try, but continuously repeating the same points doesn’t make them true. You do know that don’t you?

By: Eyes wide open

Eyes wide open — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 22:58:44 +0000

Yet you have nothing to say about the Morgan’s Point hotel your idiots in the OBA signed a $185 million dollar guarantee on. Let’s not forget the $20 mill a year we now have to pay for a airport that was suppose to be tax payer free. All you do is start a fire and the only party burning is the OBA and you wonder why now you only have 6 seats.

The unity the country disappeared with the UBP and now you only have a few idiots as front men/women which the people call surrogates.

By: No Nonsense Sherriff

No Nonsense Sherriff — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 22:27:48 +0000

Silly Wabbit, don’t you know by now that we who have worked hard in order to earn a better living should always to some or (certainly those that made bad choices in their own lives to hinder their success,) pay a bigger price for the exact same services that Government is supposed to give to everyone!

And for clarity, I started in life with nothing, only got a high school education, and made it big anyway, and I did what anyone with any gumption in life could easily do, all it took was common sense and hard work!!

I am still in my 50′s and haven’t had to work for a few years now.

By: trufth

trufth — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 22:19:05 +0000

Your $150,000 will not go very far in Bermuda. Our cost of living makes a household income of $150,000 barely middle class.

By: No Nonsense Sherriff

No Nonsense Sherriff — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 21:56:21 +0000

How many times do these fiscal clowns have to be told that Bermuda, does not have a revenue problem, we have a huge SPENDING problem?
There is no where else on the entire planet that has a population our size, that has an income of over $1 BILLION a year, and the plp government has consistently over spent year after year!

The Cayman Islands that has a population a little larger than ours now with a land mass 5 times bigger, can somehow live off of $700 Million income and still have a surplus of over $200 MILLION a year!!

At this point, I cant even say Bermuda is getting exactly what it voted for, because it appears the OBA is just as clueless!!

By: Ringmaster

Ringmaster — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 21:53:52 +0000

Changing the tax system won’t make any difference. Government can’t collect tens of millions of taxes annually under the present legislation.

By: jollyroger

jollyroger — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:08:35 +0000

Bermuda must grow and retain talented foreigners. Bermuda needs foreign people who have money to spend it here. I earn over $150000.00 meaning I can save each year after expenses $100000.00. Do you believe it is likely I will spend some of my money here in Bermuda???? I assure you it is VERY likely. Wouldn’t your sister who owns a clothing store like someone like me with plenty of money to buy clothing at her store? Bermuda needs to offer residency to people like me, for Bermuda’s sake

By: jollyroger

jollyroger — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:55:41 +0000

With respect to the comments about a fairer tax system

poor person pay approx 6.5% on $60000.00= $3900.00

rich person on $150000.00 pays $ 9750.00

Is THAT fair? It would appear that the rich person is ALREADY carrying the poor

By: Golden Playpen

Golden Playpen — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:11:07 +0000

Yes the implementation of a new income tax structure makes sense but there also needs to be offsetting cost reduction. Bermuda does not manufacture anything so elimination of customs tariffs would lower cost of items to the public and reduce inventory cost of suppliers. Redundant customs staff could be trained for income tax evaluations. Exempt company profits should remain tax free but individual remuneration taxes should be more in line with other jurisdictions. The civil service requires further streamlining and out sourcing to reduce costs just as any other business has to change to survive.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:43:25 +0000

cue thousands leaving the island and we turn into jamaica…thanks plp

By: 2020 Won

2020 Won — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:15:07 +0000

Legalization is coming. Soon you’ll be able to apply for a license $$$ to grow cannabis for supply. They’re going to be staffing up a department to use blockchain technology to monitor and control batches with the help of their new fintech partners and once that’s done they’ll be scheduling regular deliveries via the bus service and post office. This should up up and running in 2051. It’s part of the new 30 year plan.

By: aceboy

aceboy — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:33:54 +0000

What happened to cannabis legalization?

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:30:08 +0000

Bermuda has been told a number of times over the years that in a jurisdiction the size of Bermuda, the costs of collecting income tax will be greater than the tax actually collected. But that will not stop a good political speech.

By: Ringmaster

Ringmaster — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:10:43 +0000

A political speech to deflect attention away from the real causes of Bermuda’s financial calamity. All good words but the PLP has never been known to actually achieve anything positive, they just keep electioneering and what he said is more of the same. 20 years of being Government, $5bn or more of debt, and the life of the average Bermudian is no better than it was in 1998, in fact likely worse.

By: Boston Whaler Owner

Boston Whaler Owner — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:02:40 +0000

time to up anchor!

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:54:53 +0000

It’s essentially a consumption tax, you are correct.

The Premier is wrong though, the primary driver of economic equality is the lack of liquidity in the local economy. There simply aren’t enough people spending to support the country – all of it.

Larry Burchall and others were writing about this situation becoming a reality 15 years ago. The situation is no surprise and was predicted. And of course, part of that prediction was not getting public spending under control, something that the PLP are incapable or unwilling to do.

By: trufth

trufth — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:52:10 +0000

His idea of “unity” sounds like suitcases of the rich being packed.

But don’t worry, he won’t be alone on this island, he will have a bunch of obese civil servants to keep him company. (all starving and fighting for crumbs of pie!)

By: Griff

Griff — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:25:45 +0000

David Burt is not an idiot and must know that income tax is expensive to administer fairly. It will result in a loss of business. That is the quid pro quo and I think he knows that as well.

If Bermuda were to expand the US tax treaty to include the normal double tax provision, income tax might be popular with higher paid Americans as an alternative to payroll tax even if the income tax is at a higher rate.

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:01:51 +0000

“we cannot continue to pretend that we will fix our country without fixing the primary driver of economic inequality, which is at the root of most of our problems – our unfair system of taxation.”

How is it unfair? Those who spend the most pay the most!

By: sandgrownan

sandgrownan — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:56:18 +0000

Riding the wave of a decent COVID response to cement political capital before the hard truths were laid bare.

Will he and Minister Hayward apologies for leading the Dec 3rd demonstrations knowing full well that the OBA were right about immigration reform? I’ll wait.