AG Comments On Moniz Cannabis Court Case

January 2, 2014

Following the news that charges for cannabis possession were dropped against Minister Trevor Moniz’s 19 year old son today, Attorney-General Mark Pettingill said the ruling of the Magistrate “falls well within normal guidelines for a police caution.”

The statement from the Attorney-General acknowledged the dismissal of charges against Thomas Moniz — the son of the Minister of Health and Environment Trevor Moniz — on charges of cannabis possession and drug equipment.

“The ruling of the Magistrate in the case against Thomas Moniz falls well within normal guidelines for a police caution. There is nothing special about this particular case against Mr. Moniz,” said Mr Pettingill.

“The only thing that is perhaps different, is that usually with a police caution the matter does not go to Court as it did today and is often not a matter of public knowledge,” the Attorney-General said.

He added: “Neither the Attorney-General nor the Government has anything to do with the remit of the Department of Public Prosecutions.

“This was a matter entirely for the DPP as mandated by the Bermuda Constitution, and the Bermuda Police Service, as are all criminal matters.”

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  1. Triangle Drifter says:

    Fair enough answer? Of course not. This is not what the rabble wants to hear. Simply nowhere near their view of realms of what could be.

    In their eyes this is a huge case of string pulling. Can’t possibly be anything else. Give it a few days. The PLP will stick the paddles in the pot, so to speak, & see what can be stirred up.

    • Sapphire says:

      Would they be so far off? No, they wouldn’t.

      I hope he realizes that the U.S. can still put him on the ‘Stop List’. No matter one’s personal beliefs, marijuana is still illegal both in Bermuda nd most parts of the U.S. Even though he got what amounted to a ‘caution’, they still have the right to ban him from entering the U.S. I guess it’s a good thing he studies in the U.K.

      • Sara says:

        Are you sure about that? I thought the point of a caution was it doesn’t go on your record? So if its not on his record, nothing for the US to see. Please someone correct me if this is not the case.

        • Bernews says:

          “Sapphire” is correct, you do not need to be convicted.

          The US has a “moral turpitude” clause that can be used to bar someone entry without a conviction.

          We are aware of at least one Bermudian who got barred without a conviction under the “moral turpitude” clause.

          Not saying he, or anyone else will be stoplisted, but just confirming that it can happen without a conviction.

          • Sara says:

            Thank you. All of this is going to be so critically important when discussing decriminalization because the whole point is to not be put on the stoplist.

          • sage says:

            Thanks Bernews, I seem to remember Grace Shelton saying offenses which fit the definition of moral turpitude qualify you for ineligibility.Moral turpitude, defined as depravity or wickedness (strong words), as it relates to right and wrong, leads people to ostracize a person for possessing one herb seed, or a microscopic pinch of a ( admittedly illegal but still relatively harmless) plant, yet does not find DUI’s, the major contributing factor in road fatalities and serious injuries, to be concerning enough to meet the criteria.

        • sage says:

          That was the idea originally, and theoretically a person who is cautioned should not be on the “Stop List”, any question concerning how one may get on the list is consistently met with denial of any list, and finger pointing, there is only acknowledgement of a “database of ineligibility” but don’t worry, for a small fee you might get a waiver. Some people have claimed they were denied entry even though they were given a break and never reached court, one person claims to have no convictions at all but was on the list since participating in a local herb protest march years ago. Again,Does anyone else wonder why DUI, an arrest-able, criminal offense, which displays a complete disregard for others lives (and their own) doesn’t merit inclusion on the “list”. If not please explain.

    • sage says:

      Give us verifiable numbers of how many others have been cautioned in this specific manner then please. How can this fall “well within normal guidelines” if the point of a caution is so the victim can avoid a court case and hopefully the added penalty of being put on the stop list?

  2. Mazumbo says:

    Yaaawwnn friends and family , next episode

    • James says:

      Only a fool would dismiss this as insignificant. This is huge! There is a long list of young men and women that have had their lives changed as a result of being convicted of possession of similar (small) amounts of weed. This is so much more than a politicians son being afforded special treatment. Like it or not, this smacks of white privilege.

      • Come Correct says:

        I’m pretty sure it’s special treatment since I’m “white” and I got charged but stir the pot if it makes you feel better.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          You don’t know till you walk a mile in some else shoes is so true here.

          LOL

        • Rich says:

          So you’re that unlucky 1

      • u ank sers says:

        So when de exact same thing happened to Makai, is that black privilege?! Where can I get some of dat? Like it or not…

      • LOL (original TM*) says:

        Ya Makia not only are you an OBA supporter but your white too………………..

        LOL these racists make me laugh.

        • Mazumbo says:

          Do you get stopped for profiling too, maybe you don’t know de right peops

          • LOL (original TM*) says:

            Been stopped many times be cops and searched, had my bike impounded for oversized parts (carb only slightly oversized) had dogs in my car all that. Clearly i don’t rub shoulders w/ the right people they aren’t a part of my class…………

            LOL

    • S Smith says:

      “Guidelines of Police Caution” one problem Pettingil, police cautions don’t go to court. They don’t prosecuted.

      I think that something happened here and the people deserve an answer. So many people have a lifelong conviction for less.

      This was a setup, pure and simple, and pettingil saying something proves it more.

      • Suzie Quattro says:

        Exactly the same process as happened with Dickerson. Did “something happen” in his case as well?

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          These guys on here will never admit it. They are what they say they fight against…………

          LOL

          • Caligula says:

            This not the issue they were both members of a class that most of us aren’t and were afforded above the law treatment, now can you see through your tribal instinct animal?

            • LOL (original TM*) says:

              That is the whole point, your now where I’ve been. It is a class thing (again not denying that race can be a factor). The tribal instict that you talk about is called the “human factor” which says if it disadvatages those like me it has the potential to disadvatage me as well. We all suffer this here in Bermuda and is why we are where we are today. Even though this base analysis may not be correct on the surrface it seems to hold enough weight to cause groups of people to constantly deniy others everything like human rights and freedoms and is why we as a country can not come together as a whole under the banner of Bermudians. So before calling people animals and such try stepping back and look at the whole picture.

              LOL peace

    • James Rego says:

      I remember a prominent lawyer from your camp receiving the same treatment, so what’s your point? Either it’s against the law or it’s not! Earlier this week a man was fined $1200. How do you think he feels about this ruling? Let’s balance the playing field, a bit more transparency please.

    • Betty Dump says:

      I can’t believe I am agreeing with Muzumbo…

  3. Come On Man says:

    This smells fishy. Thats exactly how a member of a certain fraternity or other club protect their own when they are in trouble. And we know who they are.

  4. Y-Gurl says:

    This is complete farse , Moniz and his son deserves the same treatment as everyone else in Bermuda or comes on a cruise ship, and for Mark to speak out defending the “normal” is only fueling the debate and questionable court ruling, personally I agree on the abolishment of tiny amounts being a criminal offence but as of today it’s still an offense, clearly a small amount as well as having the tools of the drug user deserves a proper ruling

    • sage says:

      Y-Gurl, first no one deserves to face criminal proceedings for possessing herb in my opinion, my question to you is, why would you only agree to “tiny amounts” of a substance that is so far less dangerous than the two most harmful legal drugs that kill countless people yet are not regulated to this degree by any limits at all,do you feel cigarettes and alcohol should be limited to tiny amounts also, if not, why . Please explain.

  5. ShaunDon says:

    That’s all bullocks!I read the paper n I’ve seen 18yr olds wit a 1st charge get a 1000$ fine! Its all about who u kno! That’s y its always good to have ppl in high places I guess! So it go….. They jus needa legalize it so the government can make some $ instead of all these dum strategies!

    • LOL (original TM*) says:

      The truth to what you are sayin really is did these boy get representation? Tryin to talk to these judges here without a lawyer is like beating your head against the wall.

      LOL

      • sage says:

        “Justice” only for the “haves”, too bad for the “have nots”.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          sad but true all over the world in every country……

          LOL

      • Indepedent says:

        @ Lol,

        It’s funny the AG comes out and says Mr. Moniz got what he deemed a caution.

        I assume me and the AG assumed the same thing, but we are still not sure exactly what happen.

        But, I hope for future cases I hope this can start a change in the way cautions are given, because the AG was wrong saying the police giving out cautions is normal, because it’s not. I know from personal experiences.

        Call me a plp racist whatever, but this cases is not the same as Makai’s, and there is some information that they are not telling us.

        But I am glad a young Bermudian was still able to go back to school, not like many in the past.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          There is always information they don’t tell us cause it’s hardly really anyone else’s buisness really. The difference is who these people are in this and in Makia’s case. I still don’t see the difference in the cases. Except for the alleged grinder the cases are pretty close in detail. A small amount of weed was allegedly found, both initially denied it, both went to court for it and the charges where dropped. I did have a read of a comment of yours layin out the conditions for the causion and what was this kids first time – unknown but possible, was it less then the amount you mentioned – yes, did you admit it was his – unknown we don’t know if he changed his plea. Oh about that second last paragraph last bit – if the shoe fits I don’t think I call YOU specifically a racist.

          LOL at the end of the day two people whom are public figues or very close to public figures, of different races where give a second chance that is what everyone wants right? And I agree this does suck for those that did not get it hopefully things get better and this laws is amended.

  6. WhistleBlower says:

    Funny how people fuss over this minor incident yet when a former opposition MP’s son skipped the island and fought extradition for an attempted murder case where we all the horn blowers asking how did this young man manage to survive for months on the run???

    Legalise marijuana = increased tourism, revenue and less young people being placed on the “stop” list!!!

    Can we start dealing with the real issues??? Unemployed Bermudians! Bermudians losing their homes!! Social maladaptive behaviours!! Young promiscuous teens!! High rise in sex offence case and many many more social problems escalating on our shores????

    • Triangle Drifter says:

      But but but, the last 14 years has ceased to exist. Have you not been told? Indiscretions of PLP family, indeed PLP MPs themselves simply never happened.

      Get your story straight.

    • James says:

      Deflection!!

      • LOL (original TM*) says:

        I see everyone got their mirrors on today………….

        LOLOLOLOLOL come on the irony gotta make you laugh – hypocrites

    • Caramel Queen says:

      Perhaps in your little circle there was no criticism about that situation but people I know had quite a lot to say regarding the minister’s son’s flight from justice AND I know of even more people who are glad that he IS DOING TIME FOR HIS CRIME. Please be aware that not everyone takes to these forums to voice their opinions regarding the political goings on in this country.

      • The Messenger says:

        Caramel Queen,

        Explain how he is doing time for his crime.

        Thanks!

    • Indepedent says:

      @ whistleblower,

      Firstly, Mr. Blakney had an american passport, so he is free to travel. And as far as the public knew, it was being dealt with, so stop comparing apples and oranges.

      And what does that have to do with this case?

      I like you support the legalization of weed, but I like many others have to live within the laws of the land until then. But these types of ruling do make people wonder if there are 2 sets of rules.

      @ Triangle Drifter,

      Your are freak who uses plp short falls as your excuse for anything questionable that happens under this GOV. Your a OBA groupie, just like some people who are PLP groupies.

      LOL a groupie too!

      • LOL (original TM*) says:

        If you only knew buddy.

        LOL think what you like I calls it like I see it and when I’m proven wrong I admit it unlike others round here.

        • Indepedent says:

          @ Lol,

          Whatever mate, your a groupie, and you show your a** pretty regularly.

          • Mike Hind says:

            Just a Q:

            Why is it bad to be a “groupie” for the OBA, but not for the PLP?

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          Please note I have been critical of TD as well some thing I agree with some I don’t just like you.

          LOL if that means I’m a groupie then what ever you like just change your name from independent for the same reasons you callin people groupie.

          • Indepedent says:

            @ Lol,

            Cool bra, the proof is in the pudding. You are a groupie. lol

            • LOL (original TM*) says:

              So are you then what.

              LOL your funny keep it up

  7. buzz says:

    This is a good thing Now he will
    not be on any stop list and he
    can go on and be a productive
    citizen, may be a Politician

  8. Intrigued says:

    If you have nothing to do with it, why are you saying anything?

    1) Why is Cindy Clarke in court to deal with such a minor case?
    2) If this was a caution, why is the AG who has nothing to do with this saying thing and NOT the DPP
    3) If this was a caution, why did it end up in court in the first place.

    This release only makes it seem more fishy that before. I wonder how many other people were charge for less on the same day that didn’t have a big money lawyer…..

    • Balanced Facts says:

      He’s a political A-G and his Government is being criticized and accused of being involved in somehow making this go a certain way! Sounds reasonable to me to try and educate people that don’t understand how cautions and prosecutions work! Thanks A-G…but waste of time, the muck rakers don’t want to hear facts or truth, that would get in the way of their SPIN!

      • sage says:

        He should start by educating himself because that explanation is incorrect, then he might have some credibility. Haven’t heard from him since he told people to leave the island if they questioned gay rights amendments.

      • Indepedent says:

        @ Balanced Facts,

        I know the rules for a caution, and the details they have released from this case do not fall in line with a caution.

        1. It has to be a first offense

        2. It has to be under 3 grams

        3. You have to admit the weed was yours

        I’m telling you this because I was informed by a police man, who was dealing with my case.

        So if you don’t understand how cautions work, then maybe you should be quiet.

    • speak the truth says:

      im still on the stop list for less, its who u no for sure and they all cover up everything, but god going to soon reveal everything.

  9. Keepin' it Real...4Real! says:

    just as i thought…immoral…unethical…but not illegal…hmmm,sounds about right from my experiences with them lot.

  10. Paul Revere says:

    @ Triangle Drifter. If what you are saying is true, and what the AG is saying is true, than please explain why would the family hire Saul Froomkin?

    No need for Mr. Froomkin if you were only getting a CAUTION as the AG states

    • Mazumbo says:

      Good observation

    • Balanced Facts says:

      Lawyers usually approach Prosecution/ police about cautions! ask the PLP bunch of defence lawyers how often they have done it!

    • S Smith says:

      I missed that. 100% correct! If you are getting a caution, you don’t need one of Bermuda’s most expensive lawyers.

    • Sandy Bottom says:

      So why did Makai Dickerson hire Marc Daniels? No need to have a hot shot lawyer if you’re just getting a caution.

  11. Truth is killin' me... says:

    Mark, Trevor, Saul and the DPP…you’re all f*****’!!!

  12. watchfuleyes says:

    Of course Mr.Pettingill of course, we believe YOU.
    @Buzz … or maybe he can become a lawyer, or get a job in the DPP’s office
    @Whistleblower…we have been dealing with real issues all year, you want to change the subject eh?

    • Balanced Facts says:

      Sounds like he made a statement of fact to me! whats not to believe? Ask Makai Dickinson how it worked for him…hired a lawyer, got a police caution…No PLP bloggers screaming and crying foul over that one…hhmm…bit of PLP double standard at work again!

      • Concerned Citizen says:

        Oh balanced facts, put a sock in it will you. You are Hardley balanced. The statement by the AG raises more questions. @intrigued, spot on! Why the comment AG Pettingill, if it’s outside your remit? If its a POLICE caution, why did it come to court in the first place?
        What is Pettingills view on the Cindy Clarke/DPP issue, as he has been silent to date? The above statement makes it seem Pettingill is playing a trick on us.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          “Oh balanced facts, put a sock in it will you.”

          Whish all you hypocrites would too. The point of representation is mute cause if you are to even have a chance you need a lawyer. Does it occur to any of you that the police realy don’t make judgements on causions unless you are known to them in the first place. Its better for them to get you to court as the arrest is acredit to the arresting officer. The judge has the descression to make the call. Happens all the time spend some time in court.

          LOL

      • Rockfish#2 says:

        @ Balanced Facts.

        Agreed.

        Some people have short or selective memories.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          Some people are stright baised espcially when in a instance that the person is white and the book isn’t thrown at them and please don’t act like this is the norm either. Personally I do not think anyone should be arrested for possession just today the news said Colorado made 1 million dollars in a day through legal sales.

  13. Triangle Drifter says:

    I’m not judging a thing. I do know that if the AG had stayed silent he would have been raked over the coals. He spoke. No matter what he says some will not be satisfied so he still gets raked. He can’t win.

    All I know is that somebody screwed up. Now we have another football to kick around for a few days. Much adoo about nothing really but it gives some fodder for speculation about all kinds of near do well plots.

    • Concerned Citizen says:

      Sooooo, Triangle, why has the AG been silent on the DPP/Cindy Clarke issue? Other members of the Bar did speak out. Fact is, the AG is the most questionable member of Government. His record as AG speaks for itself.

    • Glenn Chase says:

      @ Triangle drifter; It’s quite apparent that you have a bias for the current Administration which reflects your perception. A descendent of the 1800′s, obviously, there’s a sense of ‘entiltlement’ on your behalf. Anyone with European ‘roots’, in your opinion, can do no wrong.
      Why don’t you, as your ‘pen-name’ implies, board a banana boat, travel approximately 80 miles south, into the triangle, and ‘drift’! You just might end up ‘back-from-whence-you-came’!

      • Sandy Bottom says:

        Aren’t we all descendents of the 1800′s?

      • Triangle Drifter says:

        Is that the best that you can do? Launch into a childish schoolyard personal attack?

        The topic is the topic. Deal with the topic or keep your fingers off the keyboard. I am terribly sorry that the world is not as you believe it to be. Grow up & get over it.

        • Indepedent says:

          @ Triangle Drifter,

          Mr. Chase hit the nail on the head lol, and you don’t like it lol. But your a groupie, so I understand.

  14. Ladeej says:

    There is another young man in today’s paper who is charged with having 3.1g of cannabis resin, Let’s see what happens in his case.

    • Sandy Bottom says:

      Will it be the same treatment that Makai Dickerson got?

    • LOL (original TM*) says:

      Hope he has a lawyer.

      LOL

    • LOL (original TM*) says:

      Oh and by the way thats .2 g over the limit of causion laid out above so they are gonna need a lawyer.

      LOL

  15. Nuffin but da Truth says:

    100% unpure BOLLOCKS!..we all know it.
    The more people deny this sh**,the more they are lying!

  16. Dwayne says:

    I can remember when a PLP Cabinet Minister’s son was in court for drug possession and found guilty. The magistrate at that time gave him a sentence that the Bermuda society totally reject and then the Dept. of Prosecution appealed and handing him a stronger sentence. It is amazing that the public’s reaction is the complete opposite now that an OBA Minister’s son has found his self in a similar situation.

    • Balanced Facts says:

      The only case this sounds like is Nelson Bascombes son who was in the Supreme Court for Importation of a large amount of weed and was initially given a suspended sentence! Completely different case!!!

    • Caligula says:

      Certain racist white bloggers reaction to be specific as you cannot generalize the entire population.

  17. The Dark Knight Returns says:

    Question, shouldn’t Government be made to repay all those tourist who where fine around a $1,000.00 for importing less than what this young man was let go for.

  18. Puppet says:

    Remember all the OBAers outrage over Makai Dickerson getting the caution? They called for his head. Double standard?

    • Onion says:

      They called for him to be dropped as a candidate. And he was.

      • Caligula says:

        They won’t call for Moniz’s resignation, all they scream is MAKAI! like its OK for moniz to do this I wish I had slaves like them.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          Why should he resign? Is there any linkable evidence that he had anything to do with his son’s actions? If that’s the case guess you wanted Dr. Brown to resign, Glenn Blankley, Nelson Bascombes for thier son’s actions. I bet you’ll agree to this one though Michael the milk man Dunkley cuaes of his employees actions. Just wondering ………

          LOL are you above the tribal animal instict you talked about earlier? Be honest it is the only way we get to a clear future with each other as a country.

  19. Unbelievebale says:

    The way I see this is that the AG is making sure this is not tied to the OBA Govt. Now, either the idea of connecting this matter to the OBA has come up and he has responded (which he is right to) or he has preempted any chatter.

    This is connected to an OBA minister (by relation) not the Govt.

  20. Bullseye says:

    This is blatant favoritism. Pure and simple. Once it got to court you can’t do this without calling it for what it is

  21. Ganja mon says:

    You know it’s fishy when people keep saying but the PLP done it too, or this has happened before. BS

    It’s all about who you know..gtfoh

    • Sandy Bottom says:

      Wasn’t Makai Dickerson a plp parliamentary candidate? It was only a year ago.

      • LOL (original TM*) says:

        Again keep up the PLP past is erased…………

        LOL

    • J says:

      @EVERYBODY!!!: everyone is sooo party faithful that you don’t even realize the main issue, which is, the governing class, be it PLP, UBP, or OBA, are only concerned about themselves, power, and how to keep and enhance said power. Both have blatantly proven that laws do not apply to them. PLP supporters blame the OBA government while OBA supporters blame the PLP government. In the midst of all the bickering and blame, we, the blamers, are losing. Don’t you see, this system of government and what ever it has morphed into is meant to divide us while those that rule us do what ever they want…. it’s politricks.

      So go ahead, be a pawn and defend your king when he is in checkmate. They want you to sacrifice yourself in their defense to mask the fact that we are only fighting amongst ourselves while they continue to rule us. But this is not a game of chess… this is life… laws must apply equally to all, no matter who you are. But go ahead, join the circus and continue to defend your king. I’ll defend what’s right…

  22. Dog don't bite meat. says:

    The fact remains that many young man have had their chance to study abroad to further their education ruined because they was not benefited the police caution. It doesn’t matter if it’s a PLP family member or OBA/UBP the fact remains its a double standard. Yes we know within the law the police have a right to caution. But what about all the prosecuted youths for small amount who now have a criminal record for life. Bermuda you need to wake up and stop making everything about race. We all know that institutional racism is alive and well in Bermuda anyone that denies this claim well all I can say nicely is that you must be living in space. So what we really need to be angry about is the fact that both political parties are stalling to do anything to help protect the people of Bermuda from a lifetime criminal record and opportunities because of a outdated law. While gaming will be decided because its so important to who? If marijuana was decriminalise it would help all facets of Bermuda contrary to what those that oppose think. We all know the Milkman supports marijuana one way or the other sales or recreational.

    • Sara says:

      Agreed, the bigger picture is being overlooked here.

  23. X man says:

    As far a I’m concerned…. somethings not right here! -
    and publicly the RACE POT is already begun to get stirred up.
    Anybody in power be it OBA or PLP will do anything to save there Children from going to jail -
    seen it,know of it!

    • Jadon says:

      Pretty sure any parent would do that for their kid…. If it was murder no…. But something like this ? And I’m a full PLP supporter and always will be.

  24. bornb says:

    Ridiculous…. funny how Mark came to the defense of one of his best friends sons…
    I wonder how the cops that booked Thomas feel…. doing their job IN VAIN!!!!

  25. watching says:

    This is a load of crap and everyone knows it and sees right through it. If the OBA keep this up, they are perpetuating the philosophy that the OBA/UBP members are governed by different rules.
    As far as Makai Dickerson is concerned, his amount was 8 times less than Mr. Moniz, and he did not allegedly have a grinder in his possession. The cases are not comparable. He has only been mentioned here as to deflect from the obvious nepotism of this situation.
    In addition, Mr Pettingill needed not to speak on this. We should be hearing from the DPP office but they have been silent. That office is suffering from a huge credibility problem currently with the leadership issues.

  26. Seriously though says:

    People, let’s look at the bright side!
    1. This will establish new guidelines , called “Moniz caution”
    2. Lawyers can urgue this on your behalf
    3. I little weed is not a justifiable criminal case in BERMUDA!!!!

    Happy new year 2014

  27. Navin Johnson says:

    Wonder how many possession charges Saul Fromkin handles each year?…….farce……

    • Balanced Facts says:

      Many! And gets people cautions! As does MArk Daniels as did the current A-g….many…police cautions for people from all walks of life and political ties….as the A-G pointed out, Police Cautions are not ususally made public. This is a case of a storm in a tea cup by people who are not informed! The Police should issue a statement to say that this is quite regular and we can all start the New Year calmly…

    • swing voter says:

      NJ I wonder if Betty and the other trolls will agree with you on this one….LOL I won’t hold my breath….no conspiracy here, NEXT

  28. Tank Rain says:

    Amazed at how many want to see the kid go down in flames. He caught a break, it happens regardless of who your dad is.

    It was weed, not murder, molestation, rape, armed robbery, machete wielding….just some WEED.

    Move on with your lives people, his “luck” has no direct impact on your well being.

    Internet comments make me sad…

    • Sara says:

      So agree on this.

      • watching says:

        this isn’t about wanting Moniz to go down in flames. This is about consistency. And about not having certain rules for certain kids. If this was a different kid with no connections then in all likelihood there would be a different outcome.

        • Sara says:

          But don’t we have inconsistency in the courts over everything from murder, gun crime,, dui’s, assault , robbery, etc? What makes this different?

        • Tank Rain says:

          But you have to agree, some are given “breaks”, “chances”, “cautions” or whatever term you want to use. It happens to all of us and at one time or another we have all had a “break” or “opportunity” because of a family member, a friend or a relationship in life. Maybe it didn’t get us out of a weed charge, but it got you a something…these things happen.

          I get your point on consistency and the potential things turn out different if he has a different last name, but this happens all the time. It seems because of his last name people want him tarred and feathered and lose sight of the fact that this was and is a small infraction.

          If people put the same focus into working as one and trying to better BDA as they do in their spiteful comments we would be in a better situation. OBA, PLP, White, Black, Uiger, Ex-Pat, whatever. The blame game/I am a victim mentality is old.

          Happy New Year

          • sage says:

            No one wants to tar and feather the youth, he didn’t do anything “wrong” he allegedly just broke a law that is in dire need of abandoning, just those who manipulated the system.

  29. Sara says:

    The OBA better set some guidelines for decriminalization and amounts or this will turn into bigger deal that it needs to be. Also, I don’t think we should decriminalize for under 18. I don’t think we should give them a record that affects their US entry either. Establish a protocol for under 18. Something like if you are caught underage with herb or drinking, some community service and drug counseling classes but NO stoplist. However they can accomplish this I say get started OBA!

  30. spot2 says:

    1. Why is the AG commenting on this? Pettingill can’t seem to keep his big trap shut. The police or DPP should comment, if at all!
    2. OK, let’s say a “caution” for the weed is ok, but what about the grinder? Alleged Possession of a grinder, one would think, should give rise for “just cause” to search his bike, boat, house, whatever. Wonder what they would have found there?
    3. MP Moniz, take a page out of Prince Charles’ handbook and send your kid to rehab NOW before it’s too late.

  31. Need peace says:

    @ Sandy Bottom – this is NOT exactly like the Machai Dickerson case. Dickerson pleaded guilty to his charge to receive his caution. It was reported that Moniz pleaded NOT guilty so he lost the benefit of a police caution. The DPP’s office sought to remedy this case. This is why everyone is outraged. It’s not what was done but how it was done.

  32. Triangle Drifter says:

    This is what happens when the BPS & the judicial system do not deal with cases in a consistent manner. What an expensive time waster this has been! Such insignificant amounts, no matter who has them, should get a police caution. End of story.

    It demonstrates why updated legislation needs to be passed dealing with pot. Lots of legwork can be saved looking at what Colorado has done. The growing & the selling is highly regulated. It is also going to be highly profitable for the state government.

  33. Rhonda Neil says:

    Does anyone know, what is the guidelines for a “small amount”….Does the guidelines include, equipment…

    Thanks…

  34. Bermyboy says:

    This case has nothing to do with race. Its does have a LOT to do with how the law is handed out to the privileged and those who have connections in society’s elite. If this young man was the son of a average working class family he would have had the book thrown at him by the judge and the prosecution. It does not matter if you black or white, the elite in society always seem to get better treatment by the justice system. There maybe a few exceptions but generally this hold true in most situations.

  35. JustAskin2 says:

    Well, what else would he say?

  36. Silence Do Good says:

    Wow 90 comment if we can invests this amount of energy in illegal dumping or our failing economy, boy I tell you we would be on the right path.

    • Sara says:

      It all comes down to enforcing the law. If the government does not enforce the law, then people will continue to do it. Like speeding, noisy bikes, underage drinking, etc. Our failing economy, well what can you do when the spenders don’t have any money and the investors don’t trust the market. Top it all of the government is broke. We are at a standstill and not much can be done but hang tight and hope your business doesn’t fail or you get to keep your job. Let me just state that legalizing marijuana would indeed help the economy.

  37. Voter says:

    Minister Dunkley will see herb is decriminalized,just wait and see.No more conscription either.The OBA will do what the PLP did not have the b@lls to do!

    • LOL (original TM*) says:

      Wishfull thinking…. but I’m hopefull people don’t need this type of drama..

      LOL

    • Concerned Citizen says:

      Conscription could have ended in November, ask Larry Marshall. Decriminalisation by Dunkley? Doubt it

  38. Apartheid State at its best says:

    Apartheid state at its best

    one question, who called DPP for a favour?

  39. swing voter says:

    okay all the idiots saying crucify the little white boy (I’m not in with the OBA either) why don’t you withhold your cries for justice until someone that looks like us is either fined or imprisoned for a similar amount…I’ll be there, front and center for your march on the judicial offices (you know where that is right?)

    • swing voter says:

      In other words all the weedos should be jumping for joy that the DPP is prepared to suspend prosecuting small amounts until the debate is over and a referendum is held (can’t believe I said the R word)

      • Concerned Citizen says:

        What ever swing voter…yawn….surrogate…..yawn

  40. Come On Man says:

    What a load of rubbish. We all know the brothers take care of each other when their in trouble.

  41. abillionjunkies says:

    Bermuda is a junkie society. the control freak drug laws we have really stand in contrast to the reality of our culture. drug laws cast all Bermudians down a notch. most of us eat dinner with a junkie. pedros mates wanna make a move in his containers , what bank isn’t compromised? . half the youth see importing illegal drugs as the surest way to get ahead . the laws corrupt more than the drugs do. if you have a drug problem you have a health problem and not a criminal problem.

    • Rich says:

      How is this any different than the US, Canada, Englandet al ?

  42. watchumacallit says:

    The complexion for the protection is strong in this case