Pastor Hopes To Officiate At Son’s Wedding

December 2, 2015

The mother of a Bermudian who has officially applied to marry his partner on the Island says her son and his partner are “very courageous people,” and said that she hopes to officiate at their wedding.

Pastor Sylvia Hayward-Harris hopes to marry Ijumo Hayward and his partner Clarence Williams, who currently live in the US, if they are legally cleared to be married.

Ijumo Hayward and Clarence Williams 151202

“I believe in equal rights, I believe in human rights and I think there is something a bit strange, or off, when we want rights for ourselves but we want to deny them to other people. That does not work for me very well,” Pastor Hayward told Bernews.

Former Attorney General Mark Pettingill is representing Mr Hayward and Mr Williams and has submitted a Notice of Intended Marriage on their behalf to the Registrar General who has a limited time to advertise it in the Official Gazette.

Failure to do so will result in a legal challenge by Mr Pettingill who believes the Human Rights Act trumps any other legislation governing marriage. You can listen to a full podcast interview with Mr Pettingill speaking in detail about the legal aspects here.

Asked if she thought the Registrar General would approve the notice, Pastor Hayward said “no”, although she said it would be the logical thing to do. “Really, there should be no question.”

The Pastor added: “My son is a very courageous man. I would like my son to feel free about coming home. He decided quite a few years back that Bermuda was not a safe place for him. He decided he did not want to live here. But he wants to come home.

“I am part of an affirming church. I do not see that my position is controversial in terms of my belief system but it is in terms of the traditional system.”

Pastor Hayward, who said her son won a basketball scholarship to Wilberforce University in the US, added. “I think the Government is close to making some sort of decision and have been working very hard on this.

“There does not seem to be any logical argument against it [same sex marriage]. There are lots of religious arguments and emotional arguments.

“In a world where there is so much hatred, division and so much violence, it seems to me that we ought to be encouraging people who love one another to live together in harmony.”

The couple’s “Notice of Intended Marriage” as filed with the Registrar General

Notice of Intended Marriage Act Nov 2015 (1)

Following the application being filed, the Government said: “The Minister of Home Affairs is well aware of the application and is consulting with Chambers on the matter.

“A hearing is scheduled on Monday 7th December 2015 in respect of issues relating to the Bermuda Bred Company Ltd judgment last week which we believe will add clarity to the matter as a whole.”

The Bermuda Bred judgment saw the Supreme Court rule that non-Bermudian same-sex partners of Bermudians, who are in committed relationships, are entitled to live and work in Bermuda, with the ruling saying as “same sex marriage was neither possible nor recognised under existing Bermudian law, the relevant statutory provisions discriminated against Bermudians in stable same-sex relationships in an indirect way.”

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  1. Jr Smith says:

    que sera, sera....

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    • Remember says:

      Pastor Sylvia Hayward-Harris be remember now. According to all the past weeks blogs on here the majority of gay marriage supporters don't believe in your Tooth Fairy God. That should explain everything right there :)

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      • Aarrgghh, my people.

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        • I have respect for Pastor's but that's one church to mark off my visiting list.

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          • SMH says:

            I have the feeling they're not going to miss having someone like you at their church. Actually, most of us are not sure how you can call yourself a Christian given the comments you post

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            • So which era of Christianity are you talking about.
              Pre Roman or Post Roman era, because Christianity was founded after Rome invaded Egypt, and the new God was invented called Serapis, 3 hundred years before Christ.

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          • bdaboy says:

            Again, do you really think anyone care that you won't go to her Church?
            You so called christians are extremely vain.

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        • Silence Do Good says:

          Human Rights for all,

          I plan to add to the definition of LGBT with LGBTPP, P = Polygamy and Polyandry. Human Rights for all, damn Judeo-Christian ethics, customs and culture and let us have a constitutional amendment defining marriage that is reasonable for all situations involving consent of legal age individuals.

          Bermuda is expensive for a single retired female and I need multiple husbands to keep me in the life style that I am accustom too.

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  2. Mike Hind says:

    I love this!

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    • Just so you know! says:

      Mike you can love all you want. The OBA gov that you speak so highly of has the numbers to pass the vote in the house. They will not pass the law for no Jack & Phill walking up the hill...to get married.

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      • Mike Hind says:

        Please stop making things up about me. I don't speak highly of the OBA. That is an outright lie.

        Please TRY to be honest.

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        • Coffee says:

          It's true , for some reason unbeknownst , Mike stopped speaking highly of the UBP/OBA AFTER Craig's fingers got smashed in the Cabinet House window sill .

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          • New Bermuda says:

            Leave Craigy alone I'm trying to get the herb legal for you Coffee.

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          • Mike Hind says:

            Another lie from Coffee. I never spoke highly of the OBA.

            This is just yet another distraction and ad hominem.
            Can't speak against what I say, so he attacks me personally.

            Sad, but par for the course.

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        • Truth Teller says:

          Mr. Hind it must frustrating to know that you have a weak OBA Government that is afraid to make real change. Base on your previous blogs of the past, I’m pretty sure you didn’t support the Green Kool-Aid pp Team. When it hurts people are always in denial. That goes for both sides oba and plp.

          The oba needs to pull their pants up pass the law and face the consequence 2017 election. In truth they will not place their position of power in the hands of same sex marriage. Your feelings and the rest of the gay communuties are irrelevant if it's not going help the oba to stay in power!

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          • umok says:

            This will become very interesting.

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          • Mike Hind says:

            If you actually read anything I've written, you'd know I don't support either party.

            So, your post is irrelevant.

            And nonsense.

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        • New Bermuda says:

          I assume it's the same lie that many told their girlfriend when they are in love with their boyfriend.

          Look lets legalize de Herb, Gay Marriage, Casinos, Strip Bars. Let’s do it all and bring the tourist in. A little something for everyone to be happy about.

          Everyone tick (LIKE)

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      • We the People (1st!!) says:

        This woman cannot be a pastor and support same-sex. Period!

        When a pastor or a leader violates the standards given to them, they are no longer qualified to continue in their role. If this woman is indeed a pastor she is no longer qualified to continue in this role and therefore cannot officiate any wedding going forward.

        You cannot say keep religion out then use religion (a pastor) to get married. That is the ultimate disrespect.

        Before I get a bunch of comments from atheist, unbelievers, and the like my comment is not for you. I know where you stand. My comment is for this pastor.

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        • Walk in their shoes says:

          She's not the first pastor to be in favour of conducting a marriage ceremony, to be fair. Some faiths/denominations are okay with same-sex marriage. Whether that qualifies them to be still considered 'Christian' or whatnot, that's another argument.

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          • We the People (1st!!) says:

            You're right. She is not the first. The others before her and the others after her are wrong based on the standards given to them by God himself. The bible tells us that pastors are held to a higher standard.

            So how then you can go against the word of the holy text, be in a position of leadership, and teach against the tenants of the faith. It doesn't add up. I don't care so much if it was someone who doesn't believe in the bible, like an atheist. But for a Pastor!! Come'On!!

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            • What a sick and twisted world. The whole world is a Mental Institution and I just work in it.
              LMFAO

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          • the truth will set you free says:

            Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. Matthew:7:21-23 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew:10-37 Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Isaiah:4:1“We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes only let us be called by your name (pastor/christian) to take away our disgrace. 2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Psalm 1:1 Blessed is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of the scornful.
            Also those who support this unnatural/abnormal lifestyle and trying to make it acceptable by attaching it to human rights/equal rights, this is the part of the great deception that will be taking place in the times in which we are living.

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        • Mike Hind says:

          Not your place to define anyone else's faith. At all.

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          • We the People (1st!!) says:

            As I said below.

            I don't have to have to define it. The Bible defines it. The bible that she believes in defines it. The BIBILE clearly defines it. The BIBLE clearly says, leaders like Pastors are held to a higher standard.

            One can judge it, based on righteousness. One can judge it, and call it out but what the Bible says. I'm not applying this standard to you Mike, but to the 'Pastor' who believes in the Bible.

            One can call it out, especially from a Pastor, when it goes strongly against the tenets that the holy text teaches.

            People can hold her accountable for that. Sure!

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            • Mike Hind says:

              Nope. Your take on the bible is what you are using to define someone else's faith, which is wrong.

              Again, it's none of your business. Do you. Stop worrying about others. This doesn't affect you.

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              • We the People (1st!!) says:

                Bermp!! Wrong!!

                You have no idea. This is not your domain.

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                • Mike Hind says:

                  Wow.

                  Well defended.

                  Just saying stuff doesn't make it true. You get that, right?

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        • Pastor Syl says:

          Fortunately, my Bishop doesn't agree with you.

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          • We the People (1st!!) says:

            Well, with all do respect, it doesn't matter what your pastor agrees with. It matters what the word of the holy text bible says.

            You know this.

            Dear Pastor:

            The bible tells us, “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you ….” It is also a sin to minimize doctrine to the point where in the name of love and unity, we tolerate false teachers who deny the fundamental doctrines of the faith. The bible tells us also that just because someone claims to be an evangelical pastor or evangelist does not mean that they are sound in the faith. False teachers have always arisen from within the church.

            I encourage you to study the Word. I don't want you to be conduit for spreading false teachings. The Bible warns us against such teachings. Please Please study the word.

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        • blankman says:

          Dear "we the people" - the major christian denominations don't necessarily agree with your position. (That's a polite way of saying that you don't know what you're talking about.)

          They have differing opinions on the subject of same sex marriage. Their positions range from "no problem - if they want to get married we're with them" to a slightly more conservative "we'll leave it up to the individual pastor and/or congregation to decide what they want to do" all the way to "no way".

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          • We the People (1st!!) says:

            "the major christian denominations don't necessarily agree with your position"

            Sorry, that is a outright lie!

            Some people within christian beliefs may not agree. Some churches many not agree. That is fine to make that claim. But no way, absolutely no way, to say that the major christian denominations as a whole don't agree with my position, is flatly false.

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            • Only way to find out is to take a census, well SpongeBob says he don't trust them (if its not in his favor).

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            • blankman says:

              People, you really have to get out more. Here is a partial list

              http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/02/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/

              No single position.

              BTW, just so you know, both the Catholic and Orthodox churches had same sex marriage liturgies on the books for centuries.

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        • mj says:

          Jeremiah 10:19----Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous: but I said, Truly this is a grief , and I must bear it. My tabernacles are spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth out of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains. For the pastors have become brutish, and have not sought the Lord: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered. Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons. O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps, O Lord, correct me, but with judgemnent not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing. Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that know not thy name: for they have eaten up Jacob and devoured him, and consumed him, and have made his habitation desolate.

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      • Legalgal says:

        The politicians are not required to change the law. It is open to the courts to uphold the Human Rights Act and interpret our laws to include gay marriage. Which they did recently in a breakthrough adoption case, which was followed by the CJ in the spousal immigration case.

        Finally, this move is right up there with suffrage rights, emancipation. Congrats to the couple!

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        • OG says:

          Politicians are not required but they can pass the law. Stop spinning a web Charlotte. When my friend went to court he was guilty as crap. His lawyer knew he was guilty because my friend told him the truth.

          His lawyer told him "as your attorney their is no truth stories their is only what they can prove". Now he walk among the free.

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          • lolol says:

            My Lawyer told me the same thing lololol.

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      • Cisco says:

        Jack and Phil.. now that's funny :) sorry.

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  3. sage says:

    Let's have them knighted.

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  4. Cow Polly says:

    What a fabulous moment for the whole family. As a mother, I can't think of anything more special than witnessing the marriage of my child and to be able officiate at Bermuda's first gay wedding as well? That's just the pink icing on the cake

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    • Another item to explain to our children on the list, with alcohol, drugs, smoking, sex (with the opposite sex) and now this. Good luck parents.

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      • blankman says:

        Juice, no idea where you're coming from. After all, married or not, there will still be gay people out there.

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      • CB2 says:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-JZSyhWSc

        This should sum it up for you.

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  5. Dee says:

    Bravo Pastor Hayward-Harris!

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  6. Lois Frederick says:

    Groundbreaking leading edge pioneers. Reminds me of the 1960's where ordinary people challenged authority and changed the world for others in the process.

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    • Reminds me of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Civil Rights Era will NEVER be tarnished with the comparison of this unnatural act, Slavery and Racism where acts of Evil, Greed and Wickedness.

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      • blankman says:

        Juice, hate to tell you this but Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed because of gay sex. If you actually read the Bible you'd know that:

        ""'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. ~ Ezekiel 16:49"

        As for "unnatural" there are some 500 species of animals that engage in homosexual acts but only one that is homophobic.

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        • So did you read the part in Sodom and Gomorrah where the angels where being sexually harassed by the men and the angels offered them virgin girls and they refused the virgin girls over the angels.
          Mmmmmmm

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          • Mike Hind says:

            And? What does this have to do with anything.

            You're allowed to believe in all of that, if you want.

            Just please stop expecting anyone else to do so.

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        • mj says:

          @blankman---you keep drawing blanks !Homosexuality does not apply to animals they are not people, please try reading a dictionary first or get pg.

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  7. Terry says:

    Mothers do have them.
    Brave mother whom I think has family at heart and can deal with it and her Lord.
    Shalom.

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  8. Rhonnie aka Blue Familiar says:

    You've got my support behind you!

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    • Coffee says:

      I guess you are right there buddy ... Support from behind , of course , of course .

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      • Mike Hind says:

        You're pretty vile, aintcha?

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        • Snowballs says:

          Yeah it is vile, when you have to actually think about the sexual act. Well spotted Mike.

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          • Mike Hind says:

            Why are you thinking about what someone else does in private? It's none of your business.

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            • We the People (1st!!) says:

              People do a lot of immoral things in private it doesn't make it right.

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              • Mike Hind says:

                What's immoral is you thinking it's any of your business in any way whatsoever.

                It simply isn't. At all. In any way.

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                • I guess we go back to the old saying, if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it fall does it make a sound.
                  Mmmmmmm

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                  • Mike Hind says:

                    If you speak in a forest and no one is around to hear it, are you still completely wrong, as always?

                    Yep.

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          • Rhonnie aka Blue Familiar says:

            I'm curious, do you consider the sexual act vile if committed by a het couple?

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      • Whistling Frog says:

        LMAO

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  9. Truth is killin' me... says:

    CAN I HAVE AN AMEN??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  10. Lalalala says:

    Awesome!!! Been far too long in coming!!! Best of luck!!!

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  11. Smh says:

    No I dont discriminate but I was raise to be with the opposite sex not the same. Imajine your with your son walk-in down the street u see two males holding hands and or kissing I believe no child should see that at a young age they will get confuse when I was raise u won't see that no I don't dislike them but we were born to be with the opposite sex not the sane Dunkley please don't make marriage legal stop following the world and let us be unique.

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    • Izzypop says:

      This new generation really don't care about the old ways. Half of the kids are out there experimenting with same sex partners . The young people of the day are a lot smarter than we give them credit for. They walk down the street seeing same sex partners holding hands or kissing, they don't bat an eye.

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      • Yea ok says:

        Hey sheep what farm you live on? I've seen women doing the kissing and holding hands around Bermuda but not men. Another lier among the flock of sheep.

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      • Yea ok says:

        And to say that 50% of the children in Bermuda are out there experimenting with same sex partners. You're definitely not from Bermuda.

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        • We the People (1st!!) says:

          Exactly.

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        • Mhm right says:

          I believe Izzypop was using "half of" as a figure of speech and not a genuine statistic...

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    • hmmm says:

      So you'd rather discriminate so you wouldn't have to see two people holding hands and have to explain it to your son or daughter if they asked. Stand up and be a parent !

      How old are your children?

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    • HAHA says:

      Your parents should have been more concerned with making sure you could read and write at an adult level than seeing two gay men kissing. I guess it's true when they say bigots have low IQ's.

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    • Before you judge says:

      It's clear from the language, grammar, spelling and lack of punctuation you are a person who lacks education. Before you judge, please learn some basic communication skills. Children do not judge or hold prejudice, it is learned, so if you are walking with your son and he questions what he is seeing, you can simply tell him those two gentlemen are in love. Trust me, he will understand even though you may not. Don't worry, this will not turn him gay, one cannot be turned gay.

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      • James says:

        It's clear that you're a punk because you didn't critize the person above with your real name.

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        • Abraham Lincoln says:

          Yes, because "James" (if that is even your real name) is any different. How many James's are there?

          Not to mention any person can sign any name.

          "Not everything you read on the internet is true"
          --Abraham Lincoln

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      • Daylilly says:

        Children may not have prejudice but they do have common sense. One kid said if everyone thought the same way about SSM we would all be extinct and don't they know none of them would be here.

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        • Mike Hind says:

          You keep trying to push this li, but it's not gonna take.

          Same sex marriage isn't going to make people turn gay or stop them from having kinds.

          It's a ridiculous lie.

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        • bdaboy says:

          ". One kid said if everyone thought the same way about SSM we would all be extinct and don't they know none of them would be here."

          lol. Kids say the stupidest things, don't they? Often as a result of their poor upbringing.

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      • Tired says:

        You can be turned gay!! There are numerous cases to prove that fact. People are just being used to promote the GAY AGENDA and the attack on the family!! Why are so many men and women turning to this lifestyle... ask yourself that. You can be naive or investigate for yourself to find the knowledge. There is a reason for everything and nothing happens in a vacuum. If people don't stand for something they will fall for anything.

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        • Mike Hind says:

          What? Where? Show some links to these cases. You're making things up.

          The reason you're seeing more and more people coming out is because we are becoming a more accepting society and gay folks don't have to hide any more.

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        • bdaboy says:

          "You can be turned gay!! "

          So can you...isn't life hard?

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    • There are any number of truely horrible things a parent will have to explain to their children. Any number of things that violate parents religious or personal beliefs. Having to explain two men holding hands or kissing in public may be a horror to you but it will be just one thing among many. No life is free from confusion and uncertainty. Parents will just have to work extra hard to explain why they think it's wrong compared to other, real evils. No one should have to forego their human rights because you don't want to have to explain how two people being in love is wrong.

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      • Daylilly says:

        The discussion hadn't referred to homosexuality. It referred to marriage and the relationship that produces children. It is obvious that marriage produces children and SSM is incapable of doing that.

        Also, I didn't use the word "confusing"... that was your word. The child wasn't at all confused.

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        • Mike Hind says:

          More lies from you.

          Procreation isn't a stipulation for marriage.

          Your position is false.

          Shame on you, spreading lies.

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    • Rhonnie aka Blue Familiar says:

      You may have been born to be with the opposite sex, others weren't.

      And children? Most of the time they won't think twice about it. When they reach the point where they might ask about it because it's not a day to day thing due to bigotry how you answer what they ask will show them how to feel about it.

      children are open minded, adults teach them not to be.

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  12. Coffee says:

    I'm calling BS.....

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  13. The Government showed up in court not prepared to stand up for Traditional Marriage. That is weak . The case needs to be appealed on the behalf of the people of Bermuda. Marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

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    • blankman says:

      rodney, one question - why can marriage only be between a man and a woman?

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      • mj says:

        @blankman-----since you're drawing a blank, the dictionary says marriage is between a husband and wife...duh..don't you read?

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        • Hilarious says:

          Wow, just.....wow. What are you smoking? Where can I get some?

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  14. Rico says:

    Stay in Georgia and get married plz

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  15. Coffee says:

    One of the most vocal OBA//UBP supporters is now asking for support ! Will the UBP/OBA support her or will they ignore her like they did the referendum on gaming ? Tricky , tricky ! Anyhow it's great to see an old saying ring true ..... No good deed shall go unpunished !

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  16. Terry says:

    Get a life folks.

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  17. smh says:

    This is disgusting!!

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  18. Grizz says:

    Wth did I just read? Not controversial with her belief system, its VERY controversial... I need a drink!

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  19. Snowballs says:

    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. Romans 1:26-28

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    • Mike Hind says:

      No one is stopping you from believing that.

      But why do you think anyone else should have to?

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    • blankman says:

      Snowballs, I think we all know what your book of fables says about the subject. What we don't know is why we should believe it (any of it) and more importantly, why we should be expected to follow the rules laid down by a bunch of bronze age nomads that didn't know where the sun went at night.

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    • Whistling Frog says:

      @ Snowballs: Romans is deep. Maybe the pastor never got this far into the scrolls.

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    • Ride says:

      @Snowballs,

      Be careful from where you pick your moral ground. That same book states that rapist should marry the women they rape so that they can continue to rape them for the rest of their lives after paying a slight fee.

      28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
      Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NIV

      Note that 50 shekels is about 0.5 kg. Therefore, according to that book of supposedly moral correctness, in today's value the bride-price for a virgin you rape is about $250. No trial. No prison. No punishment. Well, at least not for a rapist. The woman goes through a life long trail of imprisonment with a continuous punishment of rape.

      I don't know about you but I'd be very cautious on picking my morals from a book with such immoral instruction.

      Ride

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    • Rhonnie aka Blue Familiar says:

      Did you read what you just quoted?
      Really read it?

      Okay, the bible is against it, but it also clearly shows that God didn't try to sway them away from their choices. So... who, exactly, are you to try to do something that God didn't think was important to do anything about?

      It's not your job to treat people unfairly. It's your job to leave an open way for people to find God. Madly waving a flag that expresses that they're going to hell and aren't worthy of the same rights you are is more like flashing sign saying Bad People This Way, than This Way To A Good and Fulfilling Life and Eternity in Heaven.

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  20. Bozey says:

    Pastor?? She is a Pastor?? And wanting to officiate the wedding?? What Bible does she read?***************** How can she call herself a Christian? What church does pastor??

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    • Mike Hind says:

      It's not really your job to define someone else's belief, is it?

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      • We the People (1st!!) says:

        This person doesn't have to define it. The Bible or the Quran defines it. One can judge it, based on righteousness. One can call it out, especially from a Pastor, when it goes strongly against the tenets that the holy text teaches.

        People can hold her to that. Sure.

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        • mike says:

          The Qur'an defines Christianity?

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        • Mike Hind says:

          Not really.

          You don't get to define someone else's faith.
          Just like you shouldn't get to define someone else's relationship.

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        • Rhonnie aka Blue Familiar says:

          Perhaps God speaks in her heart rather than from a couple of thousand year old book.

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    • blankman says:

      Bozey, if you knew anything about the positions taken by the major Christian denominations you'd realize that she is hardly alone. Some Christian churches are very accepting of the idea and will gladly marry same sex couples. Some leave the decision to the individual pastor or congregation. And others do say no way.

      In short - you're wrong.

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      • smh says:

        Bs!!!

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        • blankman says:

          smh, you really have to get out more. A few minutes with google will show you that I'm right (or are you afraid of what you'll find if you actually look at the facts). But I'll save you the trouble:

          http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/02/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/

          Apology accepted.

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    • Religious types pick and chose whatever bits of the bible suit them. You know: tattoos, divorce, slavery, stonings, shellfish, etc.. They don't get to judge when one of their own chooses to ignore something they like. She just happens to embrace a part you don't support. Good for her. Too bad for you.

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      • Bozey says:

        You are correct in regards to picking what suits her!! One word hypocrisy!! A pastor teaches the Holy Word...the entire Bible...not what suits them!!

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        • Hilarious says:

          Hows that bowl haircut working out for you? How about jewellry? How was your shellfish last night? #hypocrite

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    • Christian Bermudian says:

      Yes, what church? I'd like to know so that I can go and lend support, and worship with them! Christ did not give you or I the power to cast judgement, so please take time to concentrate on your reading comprehension and writing skills rather than concentrating on someone else's love/sex life! If you think behaving a certain way makes you a better follower of Christ, then behave that way yourself and try to 'pick the log out of your own eye' with regards to what you feel is wrong or lacking in your own behaviour. When it comes to others, your only option is to give unconditional love. Why are you so interested in their love/sex life anyway? Bi/curious much?

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  21. hulk_too says:

    What is the Simplified Difference between Laws and Act?

    To make it simple and easier to understand, laws exist so that citizens of the public are protected whereas acts exist so that an idea of the government is made mandatory for the public. Before an act is a law, an act is technically called a bill. In order for an act to officially become law a legislature must vote on a bill. If the bill is voted in the bill then becomes an act, thus, becoming a law.
    go figure.

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  22. swing voter says:

    Mark! You kno the law....you know your carcass colleagues don't like it either

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    • the truth will set you free says:

      Mark may know the "law" as you say. Laws were implemented and still are being implemented by Anglo-Saxons for the benefit of them. You do know slavery was legal but it did not make it right,cigarettes are legal but it does not make it right, alcohol is legal that does not make it right. Guns are legal also which are really manufactured for the purpose to murder. All these things that are legal and slavery which is not legal were and are based on the love of money being greater for the love of humanity.

      Cigarettes cause cancer but governments have made it legal but prosecute individuals that commit murder, alcohol is responsible for numerous deaths also. All of these things that were legal and are legal today were implemented and manufactured by Anglo-Saxons. These are the last individuals to listen to when it comes to morality, they are also responsible for the present day wars and prior wars, which is a crime against humanity. All of these wars are taken place in countries against people of colour. War is also based on profits for the military industrial complex. Therefore because something is legal it does not make it right.

      1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money [that is, the greedy desire for it and the willingness to gain it unethically] is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves [through and through] with many sorrows.

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      • Mike Hind says:

        All of those things have victims.

        Marriage equality doesn't.

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        • the truth will set you free says:

          The individuals who have been molested by male priests in the Roman catholic church are victims also, these same priests have homosexual tendencies. Molestation, homosexuality, pedophilia are all sexual perversions. 2 Thessalonians 2:4- He will brag and oppose everything that is holy or sacred. He will even sit in God’s temple and claim to be God. Those who call themselves 'Christians" and try to twist the word of our Creator to make this lifestyle acceptable are really wolves in sheep's clothing. Marriage is holy, any marriage that is the opposite of marriage which was ordained by our Creator which is between a man and a woman is unholy. They are trying to dress it up and call it human rights, equality/marriage equality to make it acceptable. There is a great deception taking place and we have not seen nothing yet. Satan's kingdom is based on deception and he is using mankind to carry out his agenda. Satan represents everything that is the opposite of our Creator. Yeshua stated in Matthew 10:22 Everyone will hate you because of me. But if you remain faithful until the end, you will be saved. If you take a stand for truth, righteousness and godliness, than the wolves will come out ready to attack. Prophecy is being fulfilled in front of our eyes, soldiers of the living of God we have to be like a true planted by the rivers of water and stand firm. We are living in a time of which the Satanist Alex Crowley stated: Do as thou wilt.

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  23. Not So safe says:

    After reading the original ruling last Friday - do you all realize that if you are a straight Bermudian with a non-Bermudian partner in a committed relationship you do not enjoy the same rights - the ONLY way you get to enjoy the same rights is if you get married.

    Now after the ruling - several things need to happen - Government needs to update the Immigration and Protection Act, Government needs to legalise same sex marriage or a civil union what ever they decide to call it and Bermuda also needs to recognize common-law marriage so that NO ONE is discriminated against.

    What do you all think is going to happen here ?

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  24. Tom Cooke says:

    And if as a lot of Bermudiens are want to do... in Afghanistan they stone you to death for adultery. ..
    So don't talk to me about a book of fiction..
    It's just a question of time before somone took this before the courts... guess what... the world will keep on turnING. . Just like you can count on Bermudiens to be so negative. ...

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    • OMG says:

      Omg another dumb dumb on the blog, learn how to spell Bermudians dumb dumb. How did you pass the test?

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  25. Dangel says:

    @Izzypop - that is exactly the problem and the root of all that ails this island. No moral compass. Children do not care. They have been raised with little or no morals. Parents have spoiled them with material things in the name of having more than they did and not spending the quality time that was needed.

    Regarding experimenting - most time it is done when people are under the influence of some type of legal or illegal drug. Remember the slogan Drink in moderation ... only to protect the coffers of those who sell the alcohol.

    This island has far too many churches per capita for this judgement, law, act to pass. Churches who are governed by God's word which is written in the bible must unite for this and any other evil attacks that will come.

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    • blankman says:

      Dangel, did you bother to read this article (or any others relating to this particular situation). This has nothing to do with something passing - it simply has to do with existing law. Law which says that same sex marriage is already legal.

      But turning to your last paragraph - why should we be governed by "God's word"? After all, not everyone subscribes to your book and even those that do don't all interpret things the same way

      http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/02/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/

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  26. Confused says:

    Bermuda Tourism Authority needs to get all over this. Think of the thousands who would flock to our shores for wedding. We could even offer an incentive package like having Mr. Santucci officiate every 50th wedding for free! While Coffee does the music at the receptions.

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    • blankman says:

      Confused, don't you know? Our tourism industry is so successful that we can afford to turn our back on a potentially huge market. After all, our hotels are overbooked year round and other merchants can't keep up with the demand. [end sarcasm]

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  27. Takbir Karriem Sharrieff says:

    The Muslim position is enshrined in the Holy Quran chapter 2 entitled Al-Baquarah .It is a warning to the ejectors of faith or the disbelievers in the book.!Clear guidance for all who fear Allah.......and a warning to the Disbelievers.To all of those who would disobey the guidance of G-D........Pastors,Government Ministers Politicians,Policemen or Law-makers who feel a sense of Power anywhere in this World,Presidents included,you will be judged by this book ,whether you like it or not. You all will be brought to account for your Actions and your speech.Get one ,read and be fore-warned and fore-armed.......it is important to your good health while you are on this good earth........

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    • mike says:

      One of your leaders of the local Muslim community has taken on a second wife. What do you suggest we do with that?

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    • blankman says:

      Is that a threat?

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  28. yahmon says:

    no no no no no no . read ya bibles if ya god lovin an followin . it not right . an we dont need that here twll them to go somewere else if they want just not here or anywere. the bible tells you to beware of the antichrist but you wount take heed. anyone who anyone who belives in this ish is not one of gods children . remember that . FULLY AGAINST IT WE DONT NEED IT . SERIOUS BERMUDA IS TO SMALL . PLUS WE ARE OUR OWN PEOPLE WHY WE GOTTA FOLLOW PEOPLE O I FORGOT CAZ OUR GOVERNMENT AINT NO LEADERS JUST TRICKSTERS AN DECEIVERS . EDUCATE YA MIND OPEN UP YA EYES BECOME SPIRITUALLY INCLINE WITH YASELF AN GOD.

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    • Hilarious says:

      Wow. You clearly need to "incline" yourself with some English lessons. How on earth you expect ANYONE to take your opinion seriously, when written in such crass, indecipherable language is beyond me. Good luck in life, you'll need it, you clearly couldnt be employed with that level of English!

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  29. Daylilly says:

    Well, well, well! Where are all the SSM proponent bloggers who denigrated black preachers and blacks in general. Looks like the blacks have done more to further your cause than crush it. Thanks to a black Supreme Court justice and a black preacher.... I guess now the black preachers are ok.

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    • Mike Hind says:

      What a load of nonsense.

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    • Mike Hind says:

      Would you care to show where SSM allies denigrated blacks in general? 'Cuz I didn't see this and I have a feeling that it's another lie from you, disgustingly used to denounce people fighting for equal rights.

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  30. blazer says:

    I WILL NOT EVER GO TO THAT PASTORS CHURCH, NOT EVEN AS A VISITOR!!!!

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    • Hilarious says:

      Do you REALLY believe she, or any other member of her congregation, wants you to visit?
      Much respect to this brave lady and best of luck to her son and future son in law!
      And thats speaking as an atheist.

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    • bdaboy says:

      blazer, haters like you aren't welcome in any church.

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  31. clearasmud says:

    If as Mr. Hayward claims he is connected by his spirits and simply no longer wants to live a lie why has he not gotten married in Atlanta where he lives and where it is legal? This also smacks of political gamesmanship on behalf of the former Attorney General. As a member of the government i doubt that he would not have informed them of his attention so I question the sincerity of this action. It really looks as if the OBA want to move ahead on this issue without being seen to take a position which is not good at all.

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    • Mike Hind says:

      And here's the problem.

      It's not really your place to tell someone where they should get married, is it?

      And yet, you are here, spouting off about where Ijumo should get married.

      Other people's relationships are none of your business.

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  32. BornB says:

    Gross!!!!!

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  33. mike says:

    I strongly agree that couple should not be copulating before they get married, and the Bible does too. That has not stopped the majority of you hypocrites from getting your freak on.

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  34. Maranatha says:

    Marriage was ordained by God, and God's will/ rule of order and or commands trumps all.

    HE is the same yesterday, today, and forevermore.

    Our courts have obviously pushed aside the originator of law and order. THE Judge of all - God.

    Will the courts also disregard God's other laws of order too, of which the courts use to enforce law and order?:
    - Thou shall not kill
    - Thou shall not steal, etc

    As the courts enforcce penalties for breaking law and order, there are penalties for being disobedient to The Judge of all - God, HIS laws and commands

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    • Rhonnie aka Blue Familiar says:

      Do you follow all of Gods laws and commandments? All of them? Just curious.

      But... yeah, if you follow the Bible God will judge all in the final accounting. So stop trying to be God by judging and punishing now and let him take care of things when he decrees that it is time to do so.

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    • Mike Hind says:

      Not all marriages.

      Therefore, it is not a stipulation.

      Therefore, it can be all these things, for you, but you don't have any right to demand that it is these things for anyone else.

      As for the other "laws" that you put forward? They have victims.
      Marriage Equality doesn't.

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  35. nok says:

    Pastor Sylvia Hayward-Harris I will never enter your church.

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    • Hilarious says:

      Do you really believe she, or anyone else in her congregation, wants you there?

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