Party On Arrest Report: “It’s A Personal Matter”
[Updated with comment from Government]
Following radio reports that One Bermuda Alliance MP Nandi Outerbridge was arrested, the OBA has referred all questions to the MP’s lawyer saying it is a “personal matter.”
The Bermuda Broadcasting Company reported that the MP was arrested and subsequently released on police bail after appearing at the Police Station yesterday [Aug 8].
Police have remained quiet neither confirming or denying the reports.
When asked for comment about the reports, the OBA said: “The OBA feels this is a personal matter. Questions should be addressed to Ms Outerbridge’s lawyer.”
Unofficial sources suggest the MP may have retained Saul Froomkin QC, and when asked for comment this morning Mr Froomkin declined.
We have also asked Premier Craig Cannonier for comment, and will update as able.
Update 1.19pm: In response to media queries about this matter a Government spokesperson said, “It is our understanding that a complaint has been filed with the police and that they are looking into it.
“We are not at liberty to offer any comment. That’s all we know. Any further questions should be forwarded to her lawyer – Saul Froomkin.”
I’m sorry but a member of your party and a report of a sitting MP being arrested is NOT a personal matter.
Just imagine if that was Dr.Brown or a PLP member the comments would be over loaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biased or what. LMAO
Mazumbo, you’re stating the obvious. Sad but true however the actions of one side no matter what are defended while the other no matter what is bashed even in cases of both sides committing the same offense.
But it works both ways now doesn’t it?
I mean where has your outrage been in relation to the scandals and shenanigans being revealed around the Dame Lois Court Building? Where are your calls for certain MPs to resign who used tax payer dollars, via a blind trust, to enrish themselves? Why no calls for resignations? Or what about all of the other scandals unveiled by the AG in recent years?
I agree that she needs to resign if she is guilty. That type of behaviour is unbecoming for someone in a political position and she should not be any type or form of leaderhsip.
But where is all you lots outrage over incidents that affect all Bermudians (i.e. misuse and theft of taxpayer funds)? Why did you and do you stay so quiet and support scandalous politicians? Why?
Who are you asking? If me, how do you know I have “been silent?” Please list all of my vocal and written activities right here, right now. If you can’t then please take a seat.
Guilty or not, she needs to resign. Every time we turn around, this MP and her drama are in the press. Premier Cannonier needs to ask for her immediate resignation.
How about a Bi-Election. HUhhhh
Can’t straight people vote too?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
I thought people were innocent till proven guilty. sounds like people want blood on the Shari J show. I only heard one sane voice. Come on Bermuda we have a good court system. Let the courts do their jobs and stop accusing people when in fact there are No charges against them.
Let her have her day in court first .
So you think she was arrested without cause.
No charges have been filed agains Dr Brown or any members of the PLP ever yet there are constant accusations of guilt every day. Is there a double standard in play?
No UBP member was ever arrested or convicted, but that doesn’t stop you zealots from calling them crooks all the time either.
Definitely double standards in play…
Erm…Makai Dickerson?
HELLO!!
Some of us have not forgotten the T-Street incident, where many people were not able to be charged because many of the implicated took advantage of the loopholes in the law.
One man charged, when so many more benefited.
While I wont speak to the situation in depth, I agree with your comment that she is innocent until proven guilty and if rumor mill has any facts as sometimes it does in this country, there is more to this picture that has not been revealed and that may involve goings on with others that comes into question, but that should in no way hinder this young ladies commitment to serve her country.
Dr. Ewart Brown was accused of many things publicly and privately in his time in office and people wanted his head to roll but it did not, so guilty or not let them deal with the out come of their actions and if it happens to be something to it then she can get sacked.if she is proven innocent leave her alone.
We have politicians that may have been targeted in the investigations into former Leader of Turks an Caicos arrest and possibly see heads roll from Bermuda, so do we crucify them now or wait to the truth is revealed, either way they say all who do wrong get their bath when the water gets hot, and in this life we all go through it on one level or the other, regardless if it is personal or public.
At the end of the day the young woman has a lot to offer and for those jack bunnies that think she don’t and can do better, get off the hole in your back and start using the hole in your head to make a difference, so at least we can see your worth or worthlessness.
I thank you Duane for calling, “a spade a spade” I also believe there be more to this matter and like most dirt, “it will come out in the wash” A person is innocent until proven guilty…That’s why we have Courts.
@Raymond Ray, Pity your usual vile comments don’t give the same “innocent until proven guilty” attitude towards anyone associated with the PLP
it’s all about the young and the restless what you do in the dark will some day come in the light
@Double Standards…. NO real facts in that regard, it was not fully reveal by the OBA, lots of mis-information instead to only attack the PLP, that’s why there was no outrage been in relation to the Dame Lois Court Building? Stop believing everything you read in a certain media, never any real investigative reporting done there. False info on this matter, full story never told to the OBA supporters.
So you agree with the use of blind trusts in a publically funded capital project?
Change your name please to hypocrite…much better suited for the Betty Trump’s of this world.
EVIDENCE!!!!!
In fairness to Dr. Brown, he does not engage in petty stuff like this – and even if he did, he’s too smart to get caught…
Victor don’t insult what little intelligence you may have left, the year is not over and I frankly dont think you know the half of what you are speaking to, so frankly as kind as I can say it, I think if the entire story comes to light with Mrs Outerbridge you will not be so ready to make such a judgement call, because there happens to be another individual not mention here yet that all facts have to come in to question and then a third party that could be thought to be stuck in the middle.
As for Dr Brown I will say let time run it’s course because no matter what he has or has not done in life, life has a way of showing who really is in control and He who sits high and knows all and sees all has the final say, the only escape route is confession to the creator, that my friend I have learned by trial an error.
I would also venture to say that history has a way of repeating itself, and we must be careful of the accusations we make because they have a way of coming up in your own face before to long down the road and I clearly remember the comment about the 40 thieves and we can later add on the comment about not going back to the plantation, and the only people laughing now is massa on the plantation.
Since this article has now been overloaded with comments, I suppose there is no bias! Mazumbo, you’re a fool.
I knew I could start the ball rolling. LMAO
you are ABSOLUTELY correct!!
Yup, it’s fair game to the public. Bernews, please do some investigation for us please.
Most certainly isn’t a personal matter because if she is found guilty and forced to resign, a by-election will take place. If the OBA don’t retain that seat (and the result was close in the election, PLP will once again hold the majority and this affects the whole country, whichever party you support.
one down one to go
um being real Bermudian bie…who’s de other one.??…LMAO
Wow. You guys are doing eveyrthing in your power to unseat a democratically elected Government, huh?
And you PLPers had/have the audacity to call the OBA a power hungry party? This coming from the same party who has formulated a policy prohibiting PLPers from joining a bi-partisan cabinet and not participating in any Government Boards?
You guys are some sick, power hungry anti-democratic people for sure…
Truly anti-Bermudian in every sense of the word.
But like I said before I hope you gusy get back in soon. That way you lot have to clean up the massive mess that you left our island in and it will be you that has to make the hard and unpopular decisions.
PLP all the way (to the bottom)!
A democratically elected Government you mean a makeshift ragtag outfit of ongoing oligarchy, surrogate ,misfits who got in by the skin of their teeth because the PLP lost the vision that their founders started. But with a strong leader like Mark Bean who don’t bow down to his colleagues ,(like Cannonair , PLP look promising and by the way things look now O-oligarchy B-born A-again are anti-Bermudian and will unseat themselves. LMAO
No… I think he means “A Democratically Elected Government” that won the election. How did you miss that?
Double Standards, your name is fitting. You wan to refer to the PLP as anti-Bermudian which is laughable, particularly given the party’s history. Take a look at the scoreboard over the past six months. OBA policy proposals and changes have amounted to nothing but victories for foreigners (including spouses of Bermudians. Under the guise of economically stimulus measures, they are going above and beyond to make Bermuda an easier place to OWN for already-entitled non-Bermudians. .
So… creating group of second-class citizens who don’t have the same rights as the rest of the citizens of this country, simply because they didn’t marry a Bermudian is… not anti-Bermudian? How does that work?
You seem to be conveniently ignoring the Bermudians that they are spouses to that are being punished.
I wonder why…
Dude, please stop with the second class citizens bs. Its that same mantras over and over with your guys. I mean Christ, just the other day cent-millionaire CEO Charman is crying foul with his assertion he’s a second class citizen. I guess the tens of millions per year and house in Tuckers Town just isnt enough… No, he was a Bermuda where a bunch a executives living ridiculously subsidized lifestyles through housing/travel/tuition/transportation/etc allowances are given the right to compete with Bermudians [some of which do the same job without the perks] for the islands best realty.
Those measures taken in the instance of spouses of Bermudians was not overkill, it was directed at protecting land for future generations of generational Bermudians, particularly those without the privileged economic starting points.
Now that’s EVIDENCE LMAO
And yet, none of that addresses the fact that it hurt Bermudians.
Is Charman married to a Bermudian?
If not, how does he work into the topic?
If not, how was he affected by this law?
If not, how is this, as Mazumbo seems to find so hilarious, evidence?
And to reiterate the OBA has so far established a track record of appeasing foreigners with an interest in getting more out of and from Bermuda. The closest they have come to accommodating Bermudians are those that are “SPOUSES OF FOREIGNERS”.. Thats the term that should be getting thrown around, not “spouses of Bermudians”…
Does marrying a foreigner make them less worthy of the same rights as I have?
I am disgusted with the OBA…they have reneged on practically everything that they promised. Yes, things take time but certain things are clearly not even on their radar. We understand that they need to look at improving the overall economy of the country and that involves courting international business but that seems to be their primary focus. There’s not one peep out of them on what they’re doing to put people back to work. Businesses are still closing and now that the PLP can’t be conveniently blamed, there’s not one peep out of the OBA supporters.
The Gov’t is showing their arrogance and it took all of eight months. Minister Fahy is closing down charities that have been around longer than he’s been born based on one thing-a lack of audited financials knowing full well that many charities rely on audit firms who do it for free and therefore don’t make the charity a priority. He has not stepped foot inside any of those charities to see for himself how they run or to offer any assistance in getting the audits done. Is Gov’t going to pick up the slack when these charities close? NO. They should do everything in their power to help charities but do not.
This Gov’t is really starting to turn me off. What a bunch of hypocrites. I look forward to the PLP taking back power any day now because the OBA clearly suckered the public-they don’t care about the lowly and downtrodden, only those with deep pockets and lots if $$$.
Just to get this straight…
You want the guys that got us into this mess… back?
Wow.
Don’t feed the troll.
You want to talk about hypocritical, what about your beloved PLP government closing down the Sunshine home or whatever it was. What kind of f***ery was that?!
How do you know that Fahy hasn’t stepped foot into any charities, are you there 24/7/365?! No I don’t think so, so come correct next time. All you’re doing is posting the same kind of BS that all your other supporters post, including Mike Hind, just not as bad.
HAHAHAHAHH you want the PLP back in. Jeez, and what do you think would happen. The same thing that happened in the past 14 years but waaaay worse. You must be lost if you think they’d be any better, just because they have a new “leader.”
THE EXACT SAME THING THE PLP ONLY CARED ABOUT. Stop your hypocritical madness.
Comment to: Devil’s Advocate (The Original) (your paragraph above)
Blah, blah, blah…
What aren’t they doing to put people back to work? Should they be like the PLP and hire everyone and their family members in the civil service? Then what happens when the civil service is bloated to the point of bankrupting the country? Oh wait a minute that has already happened. And who caused that mess? They are trying to create conditions which will allow the country to not only survive, but also to strive. But you would rather a Party that engages in isolationist policies that are far more detrimental to the economy than actually being welcoming of much needed foreign investment. But no you want to revert back to failed practices that contributed greatly to the position that we are in. So please explain what they can be doing differently? Should they push Bermudians to go to Dockyard and sell sodas and trinkets to tourists coming off the cruise ships as mentioned by the PLP leader?
What exactly do you want them to do for the “lowly and downtrodden?” They haven’t taken away social assistance or eliminated any of the social programs instituted by the PLP. So what are you yammering about and what could be done differently and what has been done differently as compared to the PLP? Is it the re-opening of the free clinic or the leveling of Futurecare premiums for all participants?
For people that claim to abhor racism I find it strange that you are so adamant about restoring a Party to power that has no qualms of displaying racial hatred and intolerance towards that all that don’t a) think like them and/or b) look like them. Labeling of people as house ni**ers, rednecks, calling Filipina guest workers nothing but prostitutes et al are the trademarks and mentality of a huge majority of the PLP (yourself included). Hence why I always smile when you guys go on about racism this and that and expected to be taken seriously. Hypocrites.
And it is a shame that you don’t care and are willing to ignore the numerous scandals and shenanigans that took place under the PLP’s 14 year reign that ultimately decimated the finances of the Government of Bermuda. You stayed silent and let them run roughshod over you and yours and for what?
But your opinion doesn’t matter in the end. Because no matter what this Government does you will hate and despise them, because that has what you have been conditioned to feel against them. You will stay deafly quiet when the shady dealings of the PLP, which affect us all in a negative fashion, but jump up and down about something like this. Just imagine if the PLP didn’t “squander” (but you know what I really mean) millions upon millions of our taxpayer dollars in overruns and general “wastage” (but you know what I mean) and what these could’ve been used for. But nah, I know asking some PLP to accept even an inkling of responsibility for your actions.
That’s why John Jefferis and Bazarian were given centuries long leases by the previous government. They were “protecting land for future generations of generational Bermudians, particularly those without the privileged economic starting points.”
Hmmmmm!
What exactly is the point you are trying to make while comparing the handling of commercial projects/properties to the handling to the residential supply??? Governments work with developers, so what… You might as well rant about Morgans Point if you want to take your pointless argument to another level…
Interesting that you don’t address my questions as to what bringing up Charman has to do with Spouses of Bermudians… while denouncing someone for making (what you think is) a bad comparison.
Weird.
And which Party permitted the sale of 3 out of 4 BDA banks to foreign entities who now repatriate their profits overseas?
Under which Party were the highest number of work permits issued even for the lower skilled jobs?
Which Party started selling our island (via bond issuance) to foreign investors who now own Bermuda?
Which Party fired a whole DoT team and replaced them with a US firm?
I could go on, but what’s the point. Zealots only see what they want to see.
Oh and why don’t you address Pastor Syl’s point above?
Why was john Jefferis, a well known PLP financier, given acres of prime Bermuda land for hundreds of years in a lease that wasn’t even propery debated in Parliament after numerous changes to the terms and critcisms from the AG?
Let me guess, that is somehow different right?
Hypocrites never and refuse to understand…
To your first point we live in a capitalist, democratic society where a healthy separation of private/commercial and government activity is upheld. You want to blame someone over the sale of banks, then blame the shareholders that cashed in on it.
To your second point, Bermuda experienced the peak of its economic activity and IB presence during the PLPs tenure, so no surprise that would coincide with the peak issuance of work permits… duhh.
To your third point, bonds are debt issuances that state we will pay you back your [essentially] loaned amount at some point in the future while payment you regular payments [called coupons] in the interim. No body owns Bermuda when purchasing a government bond… duhh.
To you forth point, so what????
So you don’t really have a problem with the selling out of BDA’s interest to foreigners.
You only have a problem when you perceive a certain Party does it then?
That’s what they call being a hypocrite and retaining double standards. See what I mean? nah, probably not as zealots are usually blind to their hypocrisy.
In relation to your response to point #4, I bet you were one of the zealots screaming injustice at the top of your lungs when a foreigner was given a consultany contract under the new Government. But when your Party scraps a whoel DoT team and replaces it with all foreigners your response is “so what?”
Hahaha…your hypocrisy is pathetic, but yet so predictable…hahahhaha
You’re not the sharpest tack in the box are you. Foreign capital has always played an integral role in Bermuda’s commercial successes…. duh.
But we are not talking about that though are we. Your OBA government will carry that to a whole new level by giving foreigners easier access to birth rights like real estate that should be reserved for grassroots locals, current and future generations, black and white.
Their philosophy is the sell ourselves out of a recession [to foreign buyers]. If the OBA could they would give foreign executives citizenship at the drop of a dime, knowing that it would bolster their voting base.
The OBA would give those same people, who thrive on housing allowances, transportation allowances, travel allowances, private school tuition allowances etc, the opportunity to compete with average locals [some of which do the same jobs with none of those perks] for the limited supply of homes.
The OBA is the party that represents foreign interests, PRC holders, 1st generation “Bermudians” and spouses of Bermudians that want MORE of this little island. The PLP like any party is not perfect but they have and always will protect the birthrights of grassroots Bermudians, black and white.
You’re a fool to put your trust and blind faith in the OBA.
So I ask again.
Why do you have problems with this Government giving a foreigner a position in a Govt consultancy job, but do not care that your PLP disbanded a whoel DoT team and replaced it with all foreigners who were fired just a few months later?
If I am a blind sheep for the OBA, what does that make you for the PLP? I mean you blindly follow a Party that decimated our financial position and made us reliant on overseas investors as a means to keep our Govt working (i.e. bond holders).
You support a party that practices and revels in racial hatred and intolerance of opposing opinions. You support a Party that had four consecutive qualified audits issued by the AG. You support a Party that bloated the civil service to the point of being unsustainable and resulting in the need for Govt workers to take a paycut just in order for the Govt to keep on operating. You support a Party that ensures teh AG is arrested when their corruption is about to be unveiled. You support a Party that uses blind trusts in capital projects.
I could go on and on, but what’s the point as you are exactly what you accused me of being above.
Now the grass is nice and green after all this rain lately. Excellent for grazing you sheep. Bahhhhhhhh
And in relation to the bond hodlers, where are all the coupon payments beinf paid? It isn’t Bermuda. So the millions of tax payer dollars are actually leaving the island and thus is not being used locally to stimulate the local economy.
But I thought you guys were all about “standing strong for Bermudians?”
I am so confooosed….i guess no different than you
So whats your point exactly. You claimed selling bonds to foreigners meant selling Bermuda. You were wrong. Your problem is your opinions are emotion and passion driven. You make up your facts as they suit you.
Emotions and passions? Please, most PLP supoprters that is all they have. When facts are presented they get all emotional and place labels on the messenger and attempt to denigrate their character.
So you don’t care that hunreds of millions of tax payer funds will flee our shores to pay off overseas investors? Which means that these dfollars cannot be used for the benefit of Bermudians.
Strange logic you got there. But it is of really no surprise.
Guess it wasn’t a simple matter of a hacked Facebook account after all. The matter seems to require a QC I see, hmmmm.. Awaiting the facts to surface (if they ever do).
How dopey can one be?
when your controlled by emotion, rationale and common sense donot exist
Seems to be the case for many in this island…
It’s called “DRAMA”
No its called LIFE!
This is a public matter not private.
My condolences go out to the young lady and her family who are on the receiving end of this callous act.
tell me more
Do you know them? You reap what you sow. There is two sides to a story, get the facts first before speaking out one one side only.
It was MP Outerbridge HERSELF that made the matter public by going to the press to say her FB page was hacked.
Was it a personal matter when Pamplin’s husband was arrested and her own colleague went to Government House and ask that she should resign?
Was it a personal matter when Ewart’s son was arrested?
Was it a personal matter when Kim’s step-son was arrested?
Was it a personal matter with Makai was caught with a spliff and OBA called for him to withdraw from running for office and Paula made him?
Come on OBA, where’s the transparency you campaigned on to hoodwink voters into voting you’ll into power?
Agreed! Balanced treatment in the media would be nice.
That being said; each party picks their members for whatever reason. We get thrown a whole bunch of fluff and flowers about their choices during election time however silence or rhetoric when their “honorable” members get in the hot seat.
Where are the highly paid spin doctors when you need them? I guess they fly back home after elections…
To answer in respect, Mrs Gordon Pamplin had her life shattered into pieces privately and then publicly to the extent that many may never know,Dr. Ewart Brown and Mr& Mrs Kim Swan both had to endure privately and publicly the shame of the deeds of their son’s.
Makai was caught doing an act that we have said is illegal in this country, you know what all these situations have in common,they are people and at last check they are human, people will be people the world over.
with Makai that was his own doing but with the other representatives it was a member of their family, so why even rehash something that does not equate to what is being said here. Bermudians are so judgmental in areas that don’t concern them and most times that we don’t have direct knowledge of all the facts, so I would say that yes these were public acts that took place through the court system but do we cut open old scars now or help to continue to heal them.
I think Mrs Gordon Pamplin, along with Dr Ewart Brown are very bias in a lot of areas and I don’t always agree with either of them but I wont take a person swipe at them without having my ducks in a row and connected to something worth while that has a legitimate reason for me to do so, because yes our private lives do effect us when we are public figures.so when I look at the personal sufferings that they have endured privately and it made its way out publicly, I sincerely ask God for His mercy because we never know when our turn will come.
QC Saul Froomkin for such a minor case. Who is paying that bill?
I guess we as tax payers may be.
Evidence?
Mike, why not take a look at Nandi’s salary and compare that to Saul’s hourly? You think she’s paying for it 100% out of pocket? Or, do you think someone else is footing the bill? If someone else is footing the bill, who is it and why are they doing it?
There’s a lot more evidence in the aforementioned questioning than there was when you screamed bloody murder about “cedar beams” rumoured in Dr. Brown’s house.
She’ll be footing the bill herself you dummy, why would someone else cover it?! Not rumoured either…
Oh please. Who is the idiot? The one that unquestionably believes things or the one that asks tough questions?
You! You didn’t ask any tough questions, you threw your opinion out which was wrong, so I corrected it.
Did you read what I wrote? What’s Nandi’s salary? What are her expenses? What does Saul charge a billable hour? How many other cases like this does Saul take? If he doesn’t take many, why is he taking this one? Is Nandi paying 100% of Saul’s normal fees out of pocket?…
If you really think that Nandi is paying 100% out of pocket Saul’s normal legal fees and this is a normal kind of case Saul takes, I’ve got a North Pole beach house to sell you.
Listen joker, I don’t know Mrs Outerbridge personally, but you know what, if Mr Froomkin is representing her and doing it because of ties to the O.B.A, then I say hats off to Mrs Outerbridge because they will take care of their own, I could not say that about our own P.L.P the way they carried on and I voted for them.
The fact that she has a high profile lawyer, who the hell cares who is paying for it,please don’t forget that Nandi Outerbridge has a husband and if he is half the man that a husband should be, I would work my ass off to protect my queen.
The other side of the coin joker is that she also has a family that loves her and is sticking by her and I can only think that they would also help to support her.
Give it a break, things happen she may have panic and things went further out of her control then what is being said, I wish that the other female would speak up and at this point she cant because she knows what she helped to create, now I have said a whole lot without saying anything, go back to the original news report Joker.
So… no evidence then?
Thought not.
If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it does it make a sound. EVIDENCE. LMAO
Right. So no evidence at all then. It was a stupid theory to begin with.
What’s stupid is even though a sound was made and no one heard it doesn’t negate that the sound exist LMAO
What’s stupid is this desperate analogy.
What’s stupid is the EVIDENCE is the sound and no one heard it dos’nt mean that there’s no EVIDENCE. LMAO
What’s stupid is to make analogies as a pathetic attempt to distract folks from realizing that you have no evidence of your claims because you are, in fact, making things up… again.
Obviously she has to you dummy, why would the public pay for it if it’s a private matter?!
I guess they are thinking about Brown/Burgess court case
Dont be so stupid E$, her rich colleagues could be footing this bill. They will do it because of that seat she
She holds. Open your eyes dreamer !!!
So, you agree it’s not the taxpayer footing the bill.
Guess case is bigger than we have been lead to believe. Hmmm
Dumb brain….I stand to be corrected.!
I am in no way defending this woman, but politians are humans as well. I wonder if the OBA vetted this woman before they allowed her to join the party. Have to be careful these days.
Yes they are, but it seems when it is the PLP having human faults, its the end of the world. i wonder how the other media is going to report this story.
They wont report this at all !!
This is the hypocrisy of the OBA to cover up their Scandals. When will the other scandal for … be un-covered as well.Their… are not so great after all.
The OBA bloggers are not allowed to post in this regards. They have been told not to touch their computers today. lol…this is an outrage and is not personal when you represent the people of Bermuda. This is a SHAMEFUL THING.
This girl needs to step down, as this is a bad look.. particularly those in St Georges. SAD the OBA are standing beside her, but not speaking on the issue.
Evidence?
@ Mike Hind
Maybe you should do some research into Mrs. Davis pass. You keep asking for evidence, however you must feel that some evidence exist, as she hired a QC to represent her. And the police did arrest her.
That doesn’t even make sense.
People are throwing around accusations and making ridiculous statements without a SHRED of evidence to back them up.
Me asking if they have any in no way can possibly mean that I “must feel that some evidence does exist”…
However, what IS happening is people are continuing to make accusations and statements without showing any evidence.
What part of “Mrs. Davis pass” [sic] should I look into?
You seem to know things. Why not tell?
The police have some evidence. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have arrested her!
I see. I’ll remember that the next time someone is arrested. Automatically presume guilt.
The blogger was asking for evidence or lack thereof. My point was there had to be some evidence or the police wouldn’t have arrested her! – circumstantial or concrete, that’s for the Courts to determine. I did not say that she was guilty! If she is then she needs to “take her punishment!” If she was provoked then she needs to learn how to conduct herself in a mature manner.
The problem is… you’re answering the wrong question.
I didn’t ask if the police had evidence.
I asked if the folks making all the accusations and making ridiculous statements had any.
None has been forthcoming.
Bang! Investigation conducted prior to an arrest!
Mike stop being a troll and get a life. Hovering over the keyboard arguing with everyone. Go holla at Dave, tell him you need a glass or few of swizzle!
One does not simply have just ‘a’ glass of swizzle.
Now asking for evidence of accusations is trolling?
But telling me to “Go holla at Dave (whoever that is)” and telling me to drink (even though I’ve been sober for 24 years) is an ok way to post?
Interesting that, instead of shutting me up by providing evidence of these accusations, you decide to go on the attack.
Makes ya wonder why, don’t it?
@Mike: This is BERMUDA! People know the background but the media can’t print the details! Do you honestly think the Police would arrest her lightly? They clearly had a reason.
Personally, I don’t blame her because the other person involved is…. and would push anyone over the edge. However, when you are a public official you are held to a higher standard and must demonstrate some self-control.
If there is truth to the rumour that there is another OBA player involved in some kind of scandal, and these two have to step down, we are in some serious trouble…
The media can print what it wants as long as it’s true. It may be tht there is no truth to it, hence nothing in the media.
And by the way, public officials are held to the same laws as everyone else. Just like Burt and his illegal peddling of alcohol.
@Sandy Bottom: Right, the media can and will eventually print the details once the matter goes to court and becomes a matter of public record. Right now, though, all that’s out there is gossip and hearsay that the media cannot print.
I’ve been given a blow-by-blow of everything that allegedly went down (as have many people) but if I post it here, it can’t be printed, now can it-that’s what I’m saying.
You mean de Propaganda Paper ? LMAO
But Sandy Bottom: “public officials are held to the same laws as everyone else. Just like Burt and his illegal peddling of alcohol.”
I have seen no reports of an arrest or charge…and he admitted his guilt! No liquor licence, no health licence, and possible copyright infringement? Are those civil or criminal offenses? Legitimate question.
I believe that the lack of liquor license and lack of health license are criminal cases and copyright infringement is a civil offense. But I could be mistaken on the Copyright infringement part, copyright infringement may be situation based.
People may know the background… but they aren’t showing a LICK of backup for their claims.
You realize WE can’t post anything right? You do know that? Why do you keep asking for evidence as if this isn’t still being investigated and a court case coming up? Bernews will edit the comment, please stop embarrassing yourself. You know there is no way for anyone to post any evidence that they have or say what they know to be true on here without it being edited.
Again… I’m not asking for evidence of Nandi Davis’ wrongdoing. I’m asking people to back up their accusations and statements.
Good job trying to change what I’m saying. Didn’t work, but a good try.
It’s the same thing you dork. Bernews will.not.post.it. Get that through your thick skull!
I didn’t try to change anything. Good try at trying to obfuscate the original question YOU ASKED! You can’t ask for something then switch it because the answer isn’t what you wanted. What evidence do you want? That you think can somehow be posted here? I would really like to know….
Now more insults. Nicely done.
What evidence do I want? I thought I was clear. Whenever I’ve asked for it, that’s what I’m looking for. Like when people claim that the taxpayers are paying for her legal fees. Or any of the other ones. Did you not read my posts?
@Mike Hind, How else am I going to get across my point to someone as stupid as you unless I speak in your native stupid tongue? Or should I post it in Braille?
I thought I WAS CLEAR when I said there is no way for anyone here to give you what you are asking for. Again, why can’t that get through your thick skull? Sorry that you’re out of the loop.
I voted for change (change not the oba) and you’re still arguing with the troll, why?
It’s weird how upset you’re getting at me asking simple questions.
It’s weird how you’re just ignoring everything I actually say and throw a tantrum, stamping your feet and throwing around insults rather than actually discussing.
Makes me wonder why that is…
Not once has anyone backed up their claims, but I’m the troll.
Wild.
@Come Correct, because I can. You are questioning me, why?
It’s weird how you think I’m upset. I’m not upset I just think you’re a moron and that someone should let you know that. After reading your 800 comments saying the same stupid thing over and over I couldn’t take it any more.
You see everyone here is apparently in the loop, you aren’t and in the process you are making yourself look a fool. Sorry for trying to help lol. I already told you why no one can prove it HERE on BERNEWS but you won’t accept that answer because you’re ignorant and stupid. It’s not throwing a tantrum, it is what it is.
And, again, you misrepresent what I’m asking for.
Funny that. In my “800 posts asking the same thing”, I’ve been pretty clear. Odd that you don’t seem to understand what I’m asking for.
But I guess I’M the stupid one for asking for integrity from someone like you.
@Mike Hind: How about I turn this around on you. How do you know that the allegations and rumours AREN’T true? What is the more believable scenario-that they are true or that they are not true? Since when do the police randomly arrest anybody-never mind a sitting member of parliament-FOR NO REASON?
You are starting to sound obsessive and ignorant in your defence of her. It’s obvious that something serious happened or she wouldn’t’ be arrested. You keep asking for people to furnish proof knowing full well that we can’t as Bernews won’t print them. So when people fail to produce ‘evidence’ you crow that they’re wrong and delusional. You’re starting to look really stupid right about now.
She may appear in court soon enough and it will all come out. Something tells me that even when confronted with proof you’ll still defend her.
I never said they weren’t true!
I haven’t defended her at all!
Not once.
I’ve simply asked for people to back up their outrageous and occasionally probably false claims.
Claims like “The taxpayers are paying her legal fees” and “OBA bloggers have been told not to post”. Someone claimed this: “The OBA bloggers are not allowed to post in this regards. They have been told not to touch their computers today”
To which I asked if they had evidence.
Instead of manning up and saying no, or… you know… backing up the claim, they went on the attack, as you are doing now, misrepresenting my position and the truth, putting words in my mouth (like claiming that I “crow that they’re wrong and delusional”, something I haven’t said on this page.
I haven’t asked for evidence – and I’ve said this a couple of times – of the young lady’s guilt. Not once.
I’ve simply asked people – those who are making outrageous claims – to back them up.
What’s telling, and sad for Bermuda, is that people are so caught up in their bitterness and desperation to have their political party back in power that they can’t even LOOK at being honest. Any call for them to do so is greeted with accusations of trolling.
It’s sad and it’s not good for our country.
Interesting that I’ve explained it all to you here, but you’ve ignored this to continue your “YOU’RE ASKING FOR THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN’T ANSWER BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CASE!” tantrum.
I wonder why that is.
Mike, in the absence of evidence what is you take on Dr Ewart Brown’s tenure as premier?
I have ample evidence for my opposition to Dr. Brown’s tenure.
I’d rather not derail the conversation by going into that, but any opposition I have for Dr. Brown’s Premiership is, in fact, backed up by evidence.
Can you render your evidence dear learned sir.
Thats funny. Because even those at the head of what has been a very successful smear campaign against Dr Brown over the years dont have a shred of evidence to back up their boogey man claims. I would never suggests the guy is perfect but this common perception on the island that he’s the monster you think he is, well its essentially baseless. What is ironic is Dr Boogeyman is actually someone that was on the receiving end of some of Bermuda’s most tragic times in respect to race relations, someone we would all have empathized strongly with. As a young, qualified, black doctor he wasnt even allowed to practice on this island. And some of the same racists serving on the board that “hated on him” back then still walk this island. Your Nandy is simply a young pawn in the operation “UBP to BDA to BDA+UBP=OBA”. And like other young political pawns in the past [even with the PLP], she will fizzle out into oblivion. She is a child and what she allegedly did is childish.
And here you go, attributing me with motives and actions that I don’t have and never did.
My opposition to Dr. Brown began with the Uighurs, when he lied to the House and to the people of Bermuda about whether they had been vetted.
I don’t think he’s a monster or a boogeyman, nor have I EVER said that he is. I have ALWAYS referred to him as Dr. Brown and treated him with nothing but respect when I post about him.
Perhaps you’re mistaking me for someone else?
And she’s not “My Nandi”. I am not an OBA supporter and I’ve never met the lady. I haven’t defended her at all in this thread.
I’ve simply asked for people to back up their claims and accusations.
It’s telling that people have a problem with that.
That Uighurs move was a checkmate mate. A move made at a time the US was all over our a$$es for being an alleged tax haven. Dr Brown made a decision that hand down contributed to redirecting some of the heat sent our way elsewhere. Beyond that was it really that bad to offer refuge to a few fellows that were falsely accused of being terrorists and sent to that hell called Guantanamo?? On a side note, I have met those guys and they are actually some of the nicest people I have had the pleasure of meeting.
Not even CLOSE to what I said.
I have no problem with them coming here.
It was the right thing to do.
The WAY it was done? That, I have a problem with (as I said).
How about addressing what I ACTUALLY said?
Mike, the last I checked the example you gave is not illegal. What did Dr. brown do that was ILLEGAL?
Stop with this asking for proof crap. Do you not understand how sub judice works? Even if I saw the whole thing go down, I cannot print my ‘evidence’ here as it would prejudice her case. Potential jurors would go in with the idea that she was already guilty because they read it on Bernews. That is the way the British system works. Stop asking for evidence because I’m pretty sure you know this stuff, and are using peoples’ inability to state anything to back up your arguments.
You are starting to really annoy people. You say you don’t know her, well I do-I know all the parties involved. There’s a lot I could say but like others here, I can’t but I stand by what I believe and have believed from the start of this saga. In actual fact, I do feels some sympathy for Nandi because the other girl has a way of pushing people’s buttons; however it doesn’t excuse Nandi’s alleged reaction.
Open your mind and learn to be objective. Don’t defend for the sake of defending and stop asking for ‘proof’ knowing full well that it can’t be printed. In actual fact, all the ‘…’ you see is where Bernews HAS edited comments. You also say people don’t make sense-that is the reason why-Bernews has had to chop out part of their comments. They tried to tell you something but could not. Get it now?
Reading through this, I think there is a fundamental disconnect. Mike Hind appears to me to be saying, obliquely, do not make the comment unless you know it to be true and can back it up. If you cannot back it up, for whatever reason including Bernews is not allowed to print it, then don’t make the comment because it feeds the rumor mill and muddies the waters.
Speculative comments (things you are wondering about, for those who are prone to misunderstand)should be preceded with “I wonder if” or “the question arises” or something similar, so people are clear that your comment is speculation.
Whether it was legal or not is not the question. I was asked what my take on his tenure was and I gave it.
The rest of your post has nothing to do with the conversation because it’s projecting motivations and actions onto me that are simply not there. Not the first time you’ve done this.
Please read what I’ve ACTUALLY written and not what you and others WISH I had written.
@ independent
You say look into Nandi’s past (its past not pass) but look at the other girl’s past if you know her (if you don’t try to find someone who does).
Its funny how people are quick to judge when they don’t know the whole story. “he who is without sin casts the first stone!” but how many of you are without sin. I don’t think no one is without sin so shut up and wait until the whole story comes out (that’s if it comes out).
But what everyone should and needs to consider is to put two and two together because you only see one side of the story. You don’t see that much information about the other individual. Just because she’s a politician you all think she’s guilty but she’s human just like us and makes mistakes. She’s entitled to a few mistakes in her life so just let it be.
Ms Davis stepped into the lions den and is open for public ridicule… Higher standards as a voted public official…that’s the point! Other chick and her past is irrelevant!!!
How the hell can the OBA say this is a ‘private matter’??? This is a SITTING GOVERNMENT MP! The ObA is not responsible for a member’s alleged actions but they are responsible for their own reaction and it is not pretty. They cannot pass the buck here!
In the U.S. if a sitting congressman, senator, etc, is arrested the media is on it like white on rice. Fortunately for the accused, we have sorts of sub judice laws here that kind of keep the media in check. In any case, this is inexcusable. She needs to step down.
So what happens if a sitting MP illegally sells alcohol?
Apparently nothing. At least so far.
I voted OBA in the last election and will likely vote OBA in the next election. AND I agree with almost everything you’ve said.
The Premier should ask for her resignation and a bye election should be scheduled. If she refuses to resign she should be expelled from the party and sit as an independent.
The OBA holds a narrow majority and as a Government may end up handcuffed if their replacement candidate loses the bye election. Right is right, however, and our politicians should ensure that they are free from scandal. Guilty or not being arrested as a sitting MP is enough of a blemish on one’s record to warrant stepping down.
This is what happens when you vote party instead of the person best suited to serve your community. She was an unknown to a large portion of the OBA.. This is just another story to add to her already colorful life.
Well the present premier was voted in even though he is a green rookie to politics so party lines do play a heavy party in the way votes are cast in Bermuda. Party politics is the true downfall of Bermuda.
The present premier was a pawn used to, by the OBA campaign designers’ view, appeal to a segment of the voting populous the UBP did not have access to.
You mean like Zane was used by the PLP, right?
Pretty weak Rockfish…
But if you want to continue pretending you have an inkling of respect for your tool of a Premier’s capability as a nation leader [with his service station experience], that have fun with that. You and every competent OBA supporter out there know is almost sad the extent that guy is being used by the puppet masters that conjured up operation “UBP to BDA to UBP+BDA=OBA”…
… may be paying the bill after all he mentored the “Girls of the OBA” MP may have retained Saul Froomkin QC. Shameful COVER-UP by the OBA, OBA just praying this scandal and others will disappear as fast as they came out. To keep this girl in politics is crazy enough, but after all the OBA love to cover up their MESS !!
Evidence?
Ask questions, Uncle. What is Saul’s rate? How much does Nandi make? Why is Saul taking a case that is so minor? Does he take other cases like this? …..
These are all questions worthy of answers. And, I’ll tell you this – IT STINKS.
So… this is just speculation. You don’t have anything to back up your claims.
Got it.
You’re just mudslinging ‘cuz you see an opportunity.
Thanks for clearing that up.
So tell me how come simple allegation requires one of the most expensive QC’s for a civil matter. This is not a murder, rape, etc….. No disrespect to Saul Froomkin QC but this job is beneath you. Guess every dollar counts cause you still get paid regardless.
Nothing is personal when a Member of Parliament is involved. And today I have to agree with most of these comments. My only question is, “Why hasn’t this girl been made to resign when the first portion of this nonsense was made light to the public?” I feared that this entire scandal of having her facebook account was a blatant.. Let’s get this mess corrected OBA…….
Get her out now, before she spoils the party!!!! Politics is evil my friend and in our small community personal matters can easily become public record.
Question, if she resigns, is an OBA replacement MP guaranteed?
No. By-election.
hell no
This is not a personal or local matter. People around the world are watching to see how this unfolds. Claims of a Facebook account being hacked of a senior politician is serious to most around the world. So if the first posts of this were lies, OBA will need to do the right thing
Well the Premier would have to wait for his instructions on what to do next.. If he is not told what to do, nothing will be done. sad sad sad situation this country is in
Any evidence of that? Or is it just smear?
evidence that the premier is just carrying out orders?? if you think this Premier makes decisions on his feet and has the power to implement his decisions on behalf of his party than all the power to you..
So… No, then? Got it.
I think it’s time she steps away from politricks. Oba will soon need a life raft.
@ Maria Jacobs Get ready for MP Renee Ming !!!!
I am excited lol……this spells good news lol
Renee Ming couldn’t win on the actual Election night, now she may be pushed in…just because shes there.
Pushed in how? She will still have to win the by election.
Lets be clear though, Renee Ming canvassed for 3 weeks and came within 4 votes of victory. One more week and she likely would have won.
Interesting that you seem to have forgotten the 200 or so votes Mr. Swan got that, unless he runs in a bye-election, almost certainly go to Ms. Ming.
The OBA should have addressed this situation before it got this far. The OBA knew about the online campaign asking for her to be recalled, and the issues surrounding this woman and chose to remain quiet – I suspect in the hopes that the majority of their electorate would never find out about it. Now they are politically- not personally embarrassed. The handling of this situation from the outset has been a one bad judgment call for the OBA.
As for the media- if any PLP MP was the subject of an online campaign petitioning for their re-call, it would have been front and center, instead the silence was deafening. My advice- Bermuda’s media needs to get out of bed with the OBA, your relationship with them is diminishing what little belief the public had left in unbiased journalism, and is making you look used and dirty.
I agree to a certain extent, but I wouldnt say all Bermuda media.. Bernews and BBC seem to be alot more objective than a certain other one.. Their campaign is soooo obvious, I mean even OBA supporters can tell that they are biased.. lol.
What happened to the other lawyer she had? Did she get kicked to the curb or did she wise up? Seems this isn’t just a simple FB hacking case after all hmmm…
ay bah…she needs Olivia Pope…callin all gladiators…bii dont make me holla!!!!
LOL!!! Olivia Pope would be raking in the dough if she opened up a branch in Bermuda!!!!
Bang! Political Scandal! They would’ve exposed the victim and made the Facebook comments disappear!
She just got married and now her whole life is being made public. SAD.
…. This is hardly a personal matter. She has to do the right thing resign….her association with the Government is a serious cause for concerned voters.
Check this out we are all human and politicans are humans everyone messes up and allows their emotions to get the better of them at some point in their lives, however, she is well aware that in her new position she is to uphold herself in a high regard. No one is perfect nor am I trying to come down hard on this young lady but truth is truth and alot of people have a hard time dealing with it.
She is a woman before anything, women have emotions she allowed them to get the best of her so as a woman do the right thing step down, deal with your personal matters and move on with life, people are going to talk regardless that’s just what people do.
Point blank…. the end!
Her personal issues aside (which are hard to ignore) Nandi hasn’t contributed anything in the House either. From what I understand she hasn’t spoken on the floor on ANY issue except reading a prepared statement that she didn’t write. They say her immaturity shows and show badly when she’s in there. She’s in WAY over her head.
Obviously everything going on is a major distraction (even if she was provoked). OBA need to stop hiding behind cowardly statements. She needs to go! She needs to step down. Call a by-election!
Get ready Renee Ming!
“They say her immaturity shows and shows badly when she’s in there”.
NEWS FLASH she doesn’t seem to be doing so hot out here either !!!!
This is gonna have 200+ comments, Bermudians love some drama.
ditto
Half way there
You called it
200 comments
Probably Over 500.
@Actually…..you were very much so correct as the comments have gone over the 500 mark
The OBA’s cheerleaders are going to have a seizure trying to spin this one.
no seizure here… i see what the oba is about. same as the pee l pee, sad
Nah, most OBA supporters don’t defend wrong as opposed to the other Party’s supporters who cheerlead their representatives despite being revealed as doing numerous shady dealings that affect all of Bermuda’s population (not just the other Party’s supporters) in a negative fashion.
Like I said she needs to be removed if this act was her doing. This is not becoming of an elected “leader.”
Now show me where any PLP supporter has written such a thing about one of their representatives who have been revealed as acting in a shady and unbecoming manner.
See the difference?
EVIDENCE
That’s what he’s asking for.
So let me see if I have this correct…… This MP who is being paid by public funds and it’s a PRIVATE MATTER!!!!!! No OBA that’s where you have it wrong. My tax paying money is paying this young ladies salary. If she didn’t want this to be a public event then don’t hold a government position.
Secondly what amazes me is that people in her generation are not surprised at all by the allegations but are surprised that the OBA are covering up her actions. A little vetting before choosing a candidate…
I would also like to bring up the fact that the OBA claimed that they would not be afraid to pull an MP if need be and hold a by election for that seat. I would suggest the people of St. Georges West check through their handouts because the allegations around this MP are not becoming of someone in public office. I am ashamed to say that my tax paying dollars are funding her. Heads need to role and it should start in St. Georges West!!!!!!!!
What is the OBA covering up lmao?!?!? This shouldn’t even be news. It’s somebody’s personal business/life, ain’t none of you lots business, but Bermudians make their business everyone elses business n vice versa.
An MP being arrested isn’t personal business. I’m sorry but what planet are you living on?
Getting arrested in Bermuda is no big deal,as the police have enormous power to do so. Several arrests are made after a murder is committed, but these people are soon released without being charged with any offense!
Why not wait for her to be charged,convicted and punished by the court, before talking about resignation?
@Rockfish: i don’t think you’ve got the way the system works quite right…
+Correct me if I have misunderstood your point!! All politicians personal relationships no matter how grievous are their own business?!?!? Does this also pertain to those that are possibly committing a criminal act? Since she only won a third of the vote….I am sure the majority of St. George’s West constituents are most upset right now!
Media is biased you know very well if it was a PLP member it would have been front page.
she should have not MADE IT OUR BUSINESS then by going to the press with FB hacking story
@E$: Are you slow? The details of what exactly led to this are her personal business and not ours. The outcome of that personal business-her being arrested-IS our business! She is an ELECTED OFFICIAL! When one is an elected official we hold them to a higher standard, and expect more of them. These are the people that create the laws that WE are expected to abide by, and we expect them to abide by those laws as well.
No matter the outcome, she should do the mature, responsible, honourable thing and resign. Furthermore, I agree-she seems to just be a seat filler, anyway.
This is no longer a Personal Matter, as she represents a Public Office of the Government of Bermuda. This is something that needs to be addressed by the OBA. The MESS of the OBA is often pushed under the carpet. A political figure needs to be addressed or step away from the office of the government. It has to be serious issue, as why would a QC be required to defend the case?
As a public figure she should have known better. She requested folks vote for her to represent them in the house. Now this is what they get? This is a serious issue, and should not be pushed aside as if it is not. Nanda needs to step aside, now.
The mess of the PLP was ALWAYS pushed under the carpet, stop talking s*** aink a good look when you kno it aint true.
The OBA promised to do better and BE better than what we had before….
@E$: Refresh my memory-which sitting PLP MP was arrested? I seem to have forgotten…
Nelson Bascome…
Hi Betty.
The details are a ‘personal matter’ but her arrest certainly is not. Sadly, she will have to step down-no matter the details, there is just too much bad publicity attached to her right now. As an ‘honourable’ member, she needs to do the honourable thing and step aside.
Even if she’s released and not found guilty of anything?
Seriously?
Yes she needs to step down. She clearly has too much going on at the moment. Idk about you, but I would not want her representing me. She needs to get her own house in order before she can even begin to represent others.
I’m thinking you wouldn’t want her representing you, regardless…
But that’s just an assumption.
So the words resign ,transparent , and accountability where only valid when PLP where in. LMAO
Now THAT is hilarious!
Not a WORD from you then, but now?
No hypocrisy there.
Pathetic.
No, the words transparency and accountability were a joke when the PLP were in. Obviously.
And it’s definitely non-existent now LMAO
In the PLP?
Yeah… pretty much.
Well, other than the hatred of gays. That’s pretty transparent.
@Mike Hind: YES, even if found ‘not guilty.’ There is too much controversy and where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Too much of this woman’s personal drama is being spread around the island right now. It is not something that should be associated with an ‘honourable’ member of the house. She is clearly not MP material.
In the U.S. she would be toast…any WHIFF of a scandal and you are out of there!
Are you SURE you want to live up to the standards of US politics? Is that the benchmark you want to go by?
As for the rest? Just an excuse for you demagogues to try to get rid of an elected official. If you truly believed “Where there’s smoke there’s fire”, you would have been all over the PLP over the past 14 years. You weren’t.
Mike Hind, what is your problem? YOU are the one who can’t even be objective. Forget what the PLP did or didn’t do…did not the OBA SWEAR they would be held to a higher standard??? So, were they bulls**tting us? We are holding them to that higher standard that they promised us!
If the PLP was as crooked as you claim, and if the police so easily arrest people without reason, would not the PLP MP’s who were accused of all sorts of crimes have been arrested as well? The fact that NONE of them were arrested proves there is no truth to all the wild accusations that were flying around out there!
Also, I’m not saying that we need to follow the U.S. in the way that they do things. My point is that they address things like this and handle it. If this was the U.S. Nandi’s business would be plastered over the cover of every newspaper. It’s a good thing we have sub judice and strong slander/libel laws here, because it causes the media to cower from this kind of thing lest they get sued. Bernews seems to be the only outlet with the balls to let the people voice their opinion (within reason, of course).
Wow… a whole lot of nonsense in here.
Nothing you’ve said is based in reality.
“…as crooked as [I] claim”? When did I claim this?
This is all over the place.
Interesting that you’re relying on lies, misinformation and misdirection to deal with this, rather than… you know… the truth.
Again, if they’re so bad, why do you have to lie to prove it?
I’m starting to really wonder about Mike Hind’s mental abilities. Mike, I have a nice room waiting for you in MAWI and not the Maui in Hawaii, either.
And now the personal attacks.
*sigh*
Why can’t we do better than this?
Evidence LMAO
Says a lot about you that you think that asking for evidence is funny.
Why is that?
What are you talking about?
Bill Clinton wasn’t hurt by the Monica scandal. As a matter of fact his popularity and influence increased.
Oh, dear, oh dear, oh dear. The PLP is going to have a field day with this one!
@ Mayan No! Bermudians are going to have a field day. I tell you people who did not vote to stop your noise. See what you did! Now you all know what to do next time.
Lots of accusations, but nothing backing them up.
Interesting that.
It’s also interesting that all the folks who were all “He hasn’t been found guilty of anything” with Dr. Brown are now calling for her resignation… even though she’s only been arrested.
I guess it’s true, as usual…
“It’s ok when we do it.”
Exactly. she is innocent till proven guilty. Folks need to drop their emotions and let the system work. after all this is a democracy and not a dictatorship. Let’s wait before we judge.
But, Mike, YOU convicted Dr. Brown and he WASNT EVEN ARRESTED! Now, you’re defending Nandi who WAS ARRESTED.
When?
Seriously… when did I convict Dr. Brown?
Or is this just yet another baseless accusation?
Nothing?
Or, by “YOU”, did you mean people “that look like me”?
ARRESTED…key word!
You forget where you live? People know. Bermudians are not dumb, although I question your intelligence. Why are you defending her so much?
When have I defended her?
Uh take a look around on this page.
I know what I wrote. When did I defend her?
By asking people to back up their claims? That’s not defending her. That’s… well… asking people to back up their claims. There’s a difference.
No difference. You are defending her by asking people to back up their claims against her, that’s for the courts to do so watch and wait.
Nope. Not what’s happening here.
Go read the thread. Not once have I asked people to back up their claims against her.
Try again.
Mike stop living in OBA deinal land…really the MESS is there, and if your blind to it…well it shows up !!
Wait… asking for evidence is “living in OBA deinal [sic] land”?
How does that make sense?
MP’s should not be arrested, Mike Hind! WHy do you not get that? If the president of the United States was arrested, would you not feel really unsettled even if he wasn’t found guilty of anything? These are the people we put our faith in to govern our lands, they should not end up behind bars! So guilty or not, just the fact that the police chose to arrest her says a lot and she should step aside ASAP.
The OBA doesn’t want to do that due to the close margin in the House-I get that. However, at the very least they should provide some kind of statement more than this is a private affair. They are coming across as very hypocritical right about now. I’m sure they’re burning the midnight oil with crisis talks on how to spin-I mean ‘fix’ this situation.
I have no idea what any of this has to do with the things I’ve said on this page.
Why are you moving the goalposts?
Wow Bermuda are you superised?? As voters we vote them in!so we get what we deserve, i.e Burt having black seal logo on his bottles to this !!As long as there are politicians in the world there will always be some kind of corruption …no matter if it is the OBA, PLP,KKK, or the NAACP.
Eventhough its still Alleged, but……Nandi needs to give up her seat and a bye election needs to be called in St.George’s. Finally the sensible MP will respresent that constituency. Senator Renee Ming MP and this is what it should have been from the start!!!!
When is Burt giving up his seat by the way?
Burt was NOT arrested.
Nandi was arrested
Eventhough its still Alleged, but the ….. Nandi needs to give up her seat and a bye election needs to be called in St.George’s. Finally the sensible MP will respresent that constituency. Senator Renee Ming MP and this is what it should have been from the start!!!!
Nandi, I think you will be stepping down before the end of the weekend. It was nice to see you putting on a brave face with your husband at Cup Match but the OBA spin doctors should have told you to stay at home and let the dust settle before you come out with him again. Regardless, if the accusations are true then you need to step down. The OBA has enough ex-convict MP’s purporting to represent the people.
And how many ex-thieves are in the PLP! ….
And furthermore Nandi is human like the rest of us so all you people acting self-righteous please dont throw any rocks in your glass houses cause alot of you would be homeless after that!
Look at all these PLP diehards blaming the OBA, for any and everything. HAHAH gimme a break. It was her problem, let her figure it out and if she needs to go, she’ll go, ain’t de end of de world like you lot making it out to be. Goes both ways too!
Are You serious? She being a MP, claiming that her Facebook account was hacked, is really a big thing. It brings into question the security of a very popular social media giant. This has All Eyes on Us. Bermuda is not in a positive light and these sorts of things are destroying our reputation and credibility. OBA – The World is Watching
I think that all eyes , and the world is watching nonsense on this drop in the ocean of an event is nothing compared to when the Uighers were smuggled in.
THAT is when the world was watching and all eyes were on us .And they’re still talking about it.
Not this .
First of all this is going no where around de world. The US/UK n any otha country couldn’t give two sh*** about this “scandal” that all you PLP diehards are making it out to be. grow up and let her handle her business.
um… facebook accounts get hacked every day dumb****
You reap what you sow baby!
Bie don’t make me laugh ! “This is just a dustraction” ….
” I don’t wanna take over this press conference ”
” This press conference is over”
” clearly in the expert”
“Surrogates ”
Do you remember all these quotes from Bob, Craig,Alexis , Jeff , dunkley , during the campaign???
Now they are all quiet !!?? Why don’t you all call a press conference and defend the beautiful MP!!?? Find a nice white couch , sit her on it with a cute 3 year old and tell us how she will save our future!!!?? Come on !!!!!! Your
Big pocket donors can fix this can’t they!! ?? Vote for Change !!!!!!
ya she was the oba poster girl ha ha
…And this is who the people voted in??? SMH
NANDI HAS TO RESIGN!!.. This is not a characteristics of a sitting MP and Bermuda should not allow her to remain a MP. She was elected by her fellow Bermudians who deserve more!!
I certainly fall under the category of OBA supporter but there has been enough smoke surrounding this “child”…..not mature enough to hold office so she needs to step down ASAP
thanks for your comment
I agree with you Navin. she has to go.
All she has to do is just come out admit to any possible wrong doing, apologize to her voters and government and move on with her life, as another commenter replied Bermudians love drama so they will be talking about this until something else comes along that is juicer.
People may not like her but they would have to respect that she is being honest. People always love to gossip about the next person and what they are doing yet forget very quickly about what is going on in their own lives.
“Arrested”…but NOT charged….and this too shall pass….
i doubt a Government MP would be arrested if there was no evidence.
She has not been charged with anything. ..
Why is that many many Mudians know what is happening in erebody elses yard, bedroom, kitchen and let’ snot forget the bathroom – but not in their’s….. leave it all alone and focus on your marriages, families, children and relationships. But then, you will feel so very different when something stops by your doorstep – can you prepare for it – hell no. and you can’t – it happens and you will have to deal with it when it does. For Pete’s sake you lot
Typical ‘locals’ eh ? Gotta know everyone’s elses business but as soon as anyone has the scoop on theirs suddenly the island is full of nosey gossips .. .lol
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I agree… the whole graveyard would probably fall out of some of their closets….its easy to comment when your on the outside looking in….but I bet your opinions would change in a heartbeat if it was you. ..
When it plays out on the local news and social networks then yeah of course people will know. Is this not Bernews website?
.. I’m not even a huge fan of Mrs. Outerbridge, but I think that we should all reserve judgement until a verdict comes in, because all have done things that we are not proud of during trying times. Especially since she is a “child”, or so some commenters have so dutifully pointed out. Namaste.
Not everything is what it seems.
Actually is it a bigger issue most realize.
1. The OBA has a two seat majority.
2. If Nandi is recalled (an issue ONLY for her consituency) that slides down to a one seat majority as she only won by four (4) votes.
3. If Nandi resigns that slides down to a one seat majority as she only won by four (4) votes.
3. If the Speaker gives up that post that majority is nullified.
4. SILLY SEASON STARTS AGAIN.
Yep that’s true, I knew the PLP would regain power very quickly, Dame Jennifer Smith and Col. Burch will be dancing on the ceiling round about now.
I think that would actually be a good turn of events (except for the downright racist and hateful elements that are rife throughout the PLP).
The reason being is that we are in the current economic mess due to their past actions and/or inactions and as such they should be the ones responsible to make the hard and unpopular choices to right the ship.
So let them get back in and let them deal with the issues that we face now due to their incompetence or sinister.
PLP all the way!!!
There is no recall mechanism in Bermuda’s political structure!!
dont forget about Mr Lister, an independant
Are we bannishing here from the party, cuase I’m ready to past my vote. Just too much scandals for her to represent my constituency. She has claimed she hasn’t done anything wrong, but yet it is enough for the police to arrest her. And then changes her lawyer to QC Saul, who know will doubt protect his win/loss ratio. ANother case in the bag for him.
Im just done with this..Why harp. Bermuda Knows the truth
All I can say is if she has been arrested it must be serious.
Powers of arrest for minor offences are”Found Committing”.
I am sure she was not.
Let the system work.
My opinion.
Another silly woman embarrassing herself… OBA need to quit playing, when you are in politics and your personal life spirals like this it’s not personal anymore. Drop her.
Such a beautiful smile. She looks like an angel. Couldnt have done anything untoward to anyone. But then again. ….
All I’m gonna say is I told you so.
Oh well you live and you learn.
I am an OBA supporter and voter. I believe she should resign just after David Burt resigns for allegedly illegally selling booze…
Why hasn’t Burt been arrested btw?
BINGO JIM.
Likely as he really didn’t do anything wrong. I’m sure the police aren’t biased!
As usual with the PLP “unethical but not illegal”
Although what he did was actually illegal….
True, unethical was a word used by the PLP quite a lot, especially when it came to Dr. Brown and Col. Burch.
@Jim. Quote from Mr. Burt:
“In the spirit of the holiday, I delivered a bottle of swizzle to the Premier and his Cabinet today during their meeting. I hope they enjoyed it, and I hope that all of Bermuda has a safe and enjoyable Cup Match holiday,” concluded Mr Burt.
Does that answer your question?
Didn’t answer anything, ya boy jus gave him a free bottle. who wouldn’t take a free bottle of anything.
neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext…….
So if someone gave you something that was illegal and you knew it what does that make you .LMAO
Makes me Makai Dickerson lmfao
i didn’t think it was illegal for someone to give away alcohol for free to an adult who is legally able to drink. The alcohol itself isn’t illegal. The illegal part is that he was selling it without a liquor license.
If they have any sense they rejected the gift. Not that it makes any difference at all to his illegal activity. When is he resigning?
@Jim: Because David sent bottles of his moonshine to government officials. Seeing as they didn’t send it back, they must have enjoyed it, huh? Therefore, how will it look if he’s arrested now?
Furthermore, what he did isn’t worth arresting a person over, and I’m not convinced it’s even possible. Tons of people make and sell rum swizzle. What are these people going to charged under? It’s probably a loophole in the liquor licensing laws that needs to be tightened up.
@Jim stop with your silliness, everyone drinks swizzle and sells it in Bermuda. The matter is of an entire different matter. This matter is of a high status due to the nature if it. Wake up and stop with the defend of the indefensible.
He was allegedly selling liquor without a license. Essentially he was acting as bootlegger.
And he was using packaging that is trademarked and copyright protected.
It is illegal no matter how much you spin Betty.
And one would expect a little knowledge or respect for the law if they are an elected representative.
But I know, everything is different for the PLP.
You can’t be serious right now. EVERYONE puts swizzle in alcohol bottles. Where have you been for the last 50 years?
Nice deflection from Nandi though. What do you think Double Standard? Resign or Stay?
Dont be stupid, fool. He is a politician, with a website, selling with no liquor license (allegedly) in another company’s bottle! Do you not get that??? A little different than you/I making it at home and giving it to our mates. You are so blinded you dont get it, do you? Never seen such levels of hypocrisy as with the Sheep. SMFH!!!
People put swizzle in old bottles yes. But not everyone who does that tries and sells it to the public without the proper liquor license. That is illegal. You can’t argue with facts. What Burt allegedly did was simple bootlegging (i.e. selling liquor without a license for profit).
On top of that he allegedly used a company’s trademarked/patented equipment as a means to achieve profits. That is illegal anywhere in the world. But because a PLPer did it, it is ok as they above the law (as exemplified numerous times during their reign).
And if you bothered to read any of my earlier posts in this thread I said that she should resign if found guilty. I wouldn’t want someone of that type of mentality representing my island. I can find at least three posts above in which I stated my position on this issue. Reading and comprehension is key, for some at least.
Now where is your outrage over the numerous shady dealings that have come to light recently concerning the past administration? Why do you feel the need to support the numerous racial tirades and shady, underhanded dealings that negatively affect all of Bermudians? Why are you all so “morally outraged” at this event but stayed silent on actions/issues that have left BDA in the mess that she is in today?
Please explain why. Please.
“You can’t argue with facts. What Burt allegedly did was simple bootlegging (i.e. selling liquor without a license for profit).”
Are you saying that everyone who makes and sells swizzle is breaking the law? You may have to get a bigger jail than westgate & casemates for that!
Yes I am and yes they are…
Hence why Burt had to pull down the website and apologize..
It is called bootlegging and the law applies to everyone and anyone that is caught.
People do it all the time, but one would think that an elected politician and Shadow Minister of Finance would know better to break the law as he is in a leradership/role model position.
But as my name says there is double standards when it comes to Bermudians.
@Double Standards: It’s more than simply breaking the law. It’s about carrying yourself in a dignified manner worthy of the title you hold. David made a mistake based on ignorance, yes, but that is not comparable to this.
If the headlines were that David Burt binged on his rum swizzle and was arrested after running through the streets of Hamilton butt-naked then I would call for him to be resigned because it would show that he has no self-control and is not fit for public office. What he did is nowhere on this level and all you people making excuses for this woman know it.
Yes, everyone tht makes and sells alcohol without a licence is doing so illegally. And this turkey is spposed to be the shadow finance minister, not a small-time crook.
It’s not allegedly anymore, he admitted to it.
@double Standard, STOP WITH YOUR DEFLECTION ON BURT>…YOUR ARE WORKING HARD TO SPIN IT>…TYPICAL OBA SPIN FACTORY OF MESS AS USUAL>….WILL NOT WORK>>>> GET REAL THERE>…..ALL THE WORDS YOU SPIN DO NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT NANDI AND BURT SITUATION DO NOT COMPARE IN ANYWAY> …… HE WAS NOT ARRESTED…NANDI WAS>…GET REAL THERE>..NANDI and…. are full of SCANDAL…
HEY BETTY DO YOU AGREE THAT SELLING LIQUOR WITHOUT A LICENSE IS ILLEGAL IN BERMUDA?
DO YOU THINK IT IS WISE FOR A SHADOW MINISTER OF FINANCE TO BLATANLTY BREAK THE LAW? SHOULDN’T HE, AS NANDI SHOULD BE, SETTING EXAMPLES OF ETHICAL, MORAL AND LEGAL BEHAVIOUR FOR THE PUBLIC?
Bootlegging is not bad just ask NASCAR!!! LMAO
You keep saying “everyone… sells (Swizzle) in Bermuda”…
This is simply not true. Not even a little bit.
I think the reason there’s no outrage is because enough people have made swizzle, sold swizzle and bought swizzle that it’s not as much of an outrage. So no, not EVERYone but a lot of people who haven’t done it probably know someone who has.
Have you had any from that special place…..theirs is HORRIBLE
It’s hard to get angry about something like a difficult to find well made swizzle.
Back to Nandi…..I would like to go on record and say I am VERY biased about this situation and would like to see her step down for very selfish reasons (I like Renee and think she would do agreat job as an MP)
BUT I would also like for her to stay for even more selfish reasons (this island can be a bit dull and expensive but the Nandi saga is juicy and FREE!!)
Burt admitted what he did was wrong and apologized.
Davis/Outerbridge claimed her FaceBook account had been hacked….
Secondly, I don’t think the police are going to arrest a MP of the ruling government on a whim. I am sure there was lots of consideration and consultation all the way up the chain of command before action was taken. This indicates to me we are not looking at a frivolous charge.
THANKS @ VJ….what Double Standard is missing its that Nandi was arrested for an alleged wrong doing, and he tends to overlook this critical fact. He is Spinning OBA style to change the outlook of this serious matter. Nandi and… both have some issues that are full of scandal for the OBA. Wait its coming out shortly.
What?
@VJ:I also hope that the police are still looking into the whole hacking thing because Nandi has totally lost credibility in my eyes. IF (note I said ‘IF’, people) found to be untrue then some kind of making false statements to law enforcement/obstruction of justice needs to be added to the charges.
Burt admitted what he did was wrong and apologized.
So if Nandi apologizes for allegedly breaking the law (as Burt did) then will she get a pass from you and yours as well?
Thought not.
False moral outrage is the new PLP gimmick since being in Opposition.
Well Said Double S.. Of course these trolls will say “… see she admitted her guilt she should resign” LMAO
@In Off The Post: You don’t even know what trolling is.
Internet troll definition: ‘One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument’.
People expressing their opinion on a serious matter is not the definition of trolling-nobody is trying to stir up trouble, but express views as citizens of this country AS IS OUR RIGHT!!! An example of what a troll would say is something like “All black/white/Asian etc. people are dumb”. If people said something like “Nandi Davis was never fit to stand because she’s a single mother” or something like that, then you could accuse them of being a troll. These comments are not examples of trolling so get your facts straight before you type so you don’t look so stupid.
(BTW, if anyone is a ‘troll’ it’s Mike Hind!)
I love how you give a definition of trolling, then, because you don’t like that I’m “expressing my views as a citizen of this country AS IS MY RIGHT!!!”, you go against this definition and accuse me of it.
How is asking someone to back up a claim and provide evidence to support their accusation “deliberately provocative”?
If you think asking people to show integrity and honesty is “trying to stir up trouble”, then that says a LOT about you, doesn’t it?
@ Devils A… Sorry but yep I do know what trolling is, this and other stories are/have them everyday, by the boat load. Next?!
Also over reaching on Mike Hind aren’t you? Though I probably haven’t read all his posts he has been asking for proof to back up the claims being made from numerous posters but most have resorted to the usual name calling etc… Trolling No Doubt. Well said Mike Hind by the way Aug 11 2013 1:11. Sorry Devils Adv.. but that’s a Fail also.
To the posters who are inquiring as is “their right” then they aren’t trolling now are they? But the ones that are just posting accusations and making derogatory remarks especially about other posters are doing what … inquiring which is their right???? Fail (again)- Next!!
Further to my post I agreed with a post by Double Standards asking if Nandi admits guilt as Mr. Burt has done will she “get a pass” as many seem to be giving him??? You and I both know that those same posters will still want her to resign because of her admission, right? lol. So what is your take on that? If she did do ‘wrong’ and admits her ‘guilt’ will she be forgiven by you as some posters are implying with Mr.Burts issue?? What Say You??
“All I’ve done, repeatedly and to no avail, is ask if those that are making accusations have any evidence to back it up.”
I don’t agree with 90% of the posters most of the time but in this case, Mike has been told, repeatedly and to no avail that Bernews cannot and will not post any “evidence” one might have. No decent media outlet is going to run the risk of printing hearsay/slander. Mike, in all his wisdom, couldn’t have missed that could he? He knows that nobody can answer what he’s asking. So in actual fact his responses are deliberate, off topic, and add nothing to the discussion. That can be considered trolling.
And, as I’ve pointed out, I haven’t been asking people to post things that Bernews can’t print. I’ve also ONLY asked for evidence of the claims they have made, like her legal fees being paid for by the tax payer. I would never ask for – and haven’t – hearsay or slander as… and stay with me here… those aren’t evidence. Hearsay is defined as “Hearsay is information gathered by one person from another person concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience nor can it be adequately substantiated”. What I’m asking for is substantiation of the claims.
Slander – or libel, in this case – is written defamation, which is “Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, or traducement—is the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation.”
People, if their claims are true and honest, can easily “answer what I’m asking”.
The fact that they can’t, in your opinion, because it might be hearsay or slander, is EXACTLY why I’m asking.
What’s interesting is that making claims that might be hearsay or libellous is ok with you, but asking people to back them up not only adds “nothing to the discussion”, which is ridiculous, but could “be considered trolling”.
It’s amazing that you think that literally asking people to add facts to the conversation “adds nothing to the conversation”. Do you not see how this makes no sense?
THEY STILL WILL.NOT.POST.THAT! WHY ARE YOU SOOOOOO SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Why do you keep pretending that I’m asking for something I’m not?
@In Off The post: Mike Hind is coming across as a troll because he has made NUMEROUS posts here saying the same old thing in an annoying manner. He keeps saying the same old thing over and over-where is the proof-whilst knowing full well that anything people know won’t be printed. He’s then using that to try and suggest that means he is right. Look at how man people he’s pissed off with his asinine, repetitive comments. He is deliberately trying to antagonize and frustrate people-therefore he fits the definition of a troll!
As I have said Trolls are on this subject and others, if Mike is trolling so be it that’s on him, though his post at 1:11 is on the mark, so if he is trolling then so are some others. Right?? Oh well.
However I notice you and no one else have touched on Double Standards and my comments that if Nandi admits guilt will those same posters who have excused Mr. Burt’s illegal action give her a pass?(he could still face legal action maybe even arrest) of course they wont. Crickets …………….
Oh Oh iv’e stated that position twice now maybe I’m the one trolling, seeing as it could be seen as being deliberately provocative with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument’ hell it might even be deflection … lol.
Bell Rings, I’m Done with this.
@In Off The Post: There is no double standard here. How can anyone in their right mind compare these two circumstances? The law says you cannot litter and anyone who does is breaking the law. If I throw a gum wrapper on the ground, should my punishment be the same as someone who murders someone? Both things are crimes, so in your eyes both should be dealt with equally, huh?
G*d some Bermudians are really dumb.
Again… Why are you guys pretending I’m asking something I’m not?
READ the page. Look at the times I’ve asked and what I’ve asked for.
I’m repetitive because I have to keep explaining myself to people like you who – either intentionally or unintentionally – misrepresent what I’m saying.
None of this would have happened if the people making all these crazy claims were honest.
If you know you cannot back up a claim because the media won’t print it, the thing to do is NOT make the claim. That is all Mike Hind is getting at. Anything else is gossip and innuendo and possibly slander.
+1
+2
Breaking my self imposed stance that I am done with this issue but here goes.
I notice that those same posters such as VJ & Devils Advocate (Original) haven’t touched on the point that was raised by ‘Double Standards’ and seconded by me who asked on 8th August 4:08 because of THEIR previous comments namely that will Nandi be given a pass by them if she apologizes as they have afforded to Mr. Burt????
Que more Crickets ……….
Of course they have simply Trolled around the issue (lol) by accusing Mike Hind of Trolling and I of not knowing the difference!! (giggling now)
We all know that with their warped logic even if Nandi apologizes she would still need to go as she has admitted guilt no doubt. No pass ala Mr. Burt just proceed directly to jail, kicked out of the house of assembly to boot!! Even if she hasn’t been found guilty much less even been charged with anything.
Hypocrites!!
Who made the claim? Bernews posted the story, is the media lying on Nandi as well? Get real and stop letting personal feelings enter the issue. No one is slandering her name, or making up lies. You can make the claim all you want, the point is we can’t post any facts or evidence because it is ongoing. That’s the point. Mike is not getting at anything, he’s just trying to be inflammatory.
And AGAIN you misrepresent what I’m asking.
Are you just not reading my posts?
and so what! so if she admits what she did was wrong and apologised your telling me you would be ok with her still acting as an MP?
So everything the PLP does is ok because they apologise but with the OBA its straight up resign?
PLP fools bye i tell u believe everything they say cause we have to keep the “blacks” in power if the PLP aint racist then idk what is!
Nandi keep your head up and do what YOU feel is the right thing!
Jim, You are right Burt needs to resign also….. we Bermudians have had enough of these so called leaders,if we are honest with ourselves, we have a tourism minister that was jailed and is now our tourism minister… we have a bank robber that was elected as a member of parliament !!!!!!!!!!!!!! how the hell did this happen ?
I like the spin you put on it to try and make your comment unbiased.A tourism minister jailed doesn’t sound as bad as an mp that was a bank robber although the tourism minister stole drugs from the courts!! Niiice!!!
LOOOOOOOOOL smdh…
While this situation grabs my attention, what about the fact that she has not performed in the House of Assembly or otherwise as an MP. We have not heard her speak on issues in the House, I believe she made a maiden speech and has been quiet since except maybe obituaries and congratulations. Her constituency is really not receiving their representation. She has definitely not being mentored or groomed by the OBA to be a productive Member of Parliament.
I Agree….st. Georege you were hookwinked. Vote for Renee and gain back ur dignity.
What will happen next…. OBA what is your next move…..
She needs to step down for the better of the OBA party. If not this will hurt the party in the long run with it’s swing voters. Premier Craig Cannonier you need to be a leader and lead this Country. With so much tension and so my people at a lost due to job lost. Show the people you are a leader and shut the PLP sheep up before it goes to far.
To place are faith in one woman is sad, with all that we work for to be in power.
the hon premier it is time for you to grow some b===ls kick this woman out and call a bye election the people are waiting for your move get bob to call a press converance
The want u to use spell chech but will not help u fix wht was spelt wrong…..its ok we get the point…. Bi- election not bye as in goodbye
When is Bean going to grow a pair and fire Burt?
Wish you knew how to use SPELLCHECK!!!
Spellcheck would not pick up on some grammatical errors. One common mistake is “to” instead of “too” as in “too much.” Your vs you’re, their vs there, his vs he’s…the list goes on.
As “to” is a correct spelling, spellcheck won’t help people who just don’t know the correct usage of words….
So far we do not know if she is guilty of anything and being arrested does not equate to being guilty. I do not care about her personal life but if she lied about being hacked then that would be a serious smear on her character!
As i did vote OBA and to me she needs to step down! Regardless of the charge MP’s make laws for us all to follow and that includes politicians! Still waiting to see others in handcuffs too, come on BPS the writing is on the wall, what u waiting for! Are u waiting for the mate down Turks and Caucus to take the plea bargain or are u gonna let it slide!! Laws were broken and nothing is being done!
So if she steps down, is there a by-election? Assuming yes, if the PLP win that (calling to mind Nandi only won by 4 votes), we go 18-18 right? What happens then? What happens if one of the independent switch as well (in addition to this)?
“Hung parliament” no party will have complete control in the house.
Doesn’t the speakers vote break a tie?
Even so, the present Government needs to have the majority vote to get things done, otherwise a new government will have to be formed I guess.
Don’t forget Mr. Swan’s 200 or so votes that would probably go OBA.
What would Victor Newman do.
Don’t worry about Mr. Cannonaire.
His time is limited.
UBP will be back on the forefront.
Got milk?
good court system Human! r u serious right now, its clear that you don’t look @ the colour difference same damn offense but different rulings, is your head stuck that far up your a** that you can’t see what’s going on around you!
welcome to the OBA where they save & help get jobs!! ya right! Get ya life!!
She should have never been voted in! THE REAL St. George’s people were not happy and WE CANT WAIT until you step down!! GOOD BYE NANDI DAVIS!!! WELCOME HOME RENEE MING
Actually, the majority of “REAL St. George’s people” voted for her. That’s how democracy works.
You can`t be serious!
P.S. U s#!tt!ng me Mike?
She won, didn’t she?
What part of how the process works aren’t you getting?
Even though it was only 4 votes, there’s no denying that more people wanted her than her opponent in the last election.
Correction the majority stayed home….not this time ….Renee Ming all the way.
Correction:
That is simply untrue the majority voted. The problem is: those that stayed home didn’t vote for your guys.
However, you seem to be ignoring the 214 votes that Mr. Swan got. You think Ms. Ming is going to get those?
WOW! There must be 500+ unreal voters in St.Georges west, I am not hanging around in that neighborhood any more.
Wheres David Burt”s resignation for allegedly sell bootleg alcohol! PLP diehards are a funny bunch!
Rum swizzle has been made & sold out of Bermuda homes for generations, in fact one of Bermuda’s pioneering industries was rum running as well as legalized piracy. Those two industries alone are the backbone of what financially founded some of the more prominent families on the island today, so what’s your point? Besides for that the key word in your statement is “allegedly”.
Key word: Legalized.
What he did wasn’t legal. That’s why he stopped doing it.
Mikey boy u got left outta d loop on this one? Chek ya freinds and family tell them send you all the….. Bernews isn’t gonna post the soap opera. Hahahaha tell someone send u the… You may want to tone it down a bit until you r in the loop. Sorry mike be(hind). time. Lmao at you.
“be(hind)”
Hilarious. It just gets funnier and funnier!
Well done, making literally the easiest joke on my name that there is. You’re a comedy genius.
As for the rest of the nonsense you posted?
Try English. Try… you know… saying something and making it make sense.
It’s just gibberish.
Maybe she should have quit while she was ahead, too. This isn’t the first time she’s made news over this recently.
True what u said on your first comma! And she has “allegedly” did something to get arrested, Burt got “caught” doing something illegally, where are the handcuffs thats my “point”! The difference is THEY have not been caught! Outta sight, outta mind ring a bell! He decides to put all out in the open! And he got caught and i have not seen NO arrest, NO resignation, and NO stepping down! BTW she does need to answer some questions though,. the same as Burt! Right or Wrong!?
Cavello Bay, you need to go check on that again…
As Premier CC, he received some over the holidays. I have some and can bring up to Cavello Bay. It’s good.
Yep this is SHARK WEEK. OBA she needs to go before the water turns to bloody.
@CAVELLO BAY……Stop Deflecting, the matter with Nandi is far more of a serious nature. She was arrested. Get Real and accept the facts and stop the OBA spinning off the wall… She needs to step down and move on.
Whats ya point!? He SHOULD be arrested and brought to court for selling alcohol with out a license! BTW to me as a voter for the OBA she does have some questions to answer, the same as Mr. Burt but it just shows how the hardcore PLP voters wouldn’t ask for his resignation or for an explanation! Of course not!
Um. Don’t you think if Burt actually did something wrong as in criminal, he would have been before the courts.
Ever consider the possibility that maybe it was a trumped up story in the media.
Maybe nothing happened with the investigation and the authorities moved on.
If Mr. Burt didn’t do anything wrong, then why did he admit wrongdoing and call it an error in judgement.
Mr. Burt is the Shadow Finance Minister. How does a Finance Minister NOT KNOW that a licence is required for selling alcohol. Not only was he selling it without a license (over the internet no less!), he was selling it in recycled bottles (yes, I know everybody does it, and everybody needs to sit up and take notice that it is illegal) which requires a health certificate to ensure the bottles are thoroughly cleaned and sterilized. If fermented or moldy fruit juice was left in a bottle and someone got sick from it, where is the recourse? In addition, he was using trademarked bottles (again, I know “everybody” does it, and again, y’all need to sit up and take notice!! It is against the law!) So there is a possibility he could be charged with trademark violations – which can carry some hefty penalties.
I too am wondering why he has not been arrested. I also wondered why in years past, when a prominent politician was involved in a scandal very similar to Mrs. Outerbridge, there were no charges, either. Will Mr. Burt’s crime (illegal behavior) continue to be swept under the carpet like that one was?
Even if it is “disappeared”, why is there not similar concern.
Here is someone who should know the law pleading ignorance of the law. Does that make him an appropriate representative? Is he lying about his ignorance? Is a liar an appropriate representative? If he’s lying and did know the law, did he just figure he wouldn’t get caught or that he could slide? That would be very sleazy and shows NO respect for the law. Is THAT kind of person an appropriate representative?
Whereas, Ms. Outerbridge, if rumor is to be believed, reacted to undue provocation of the kind that would cause a good few of us to be in a position to plead temporary insanity.
You are right, all y’all! NO comparison!
Also there is a big difference between selling alcohol and selling swizzle!
Liquor stores don’t sell real swizzle you can only get it from someone who makes it.
This may be the most insane comment I’ve seen on this thread.
@Cavello Bay: you don’t need to be arrested over every little mistake you make. Burt sold swizzle illegally, so what? He found out it was wrong and stopped, how is that comparable to this? If he had hit someone over the head with a rum swizzle bottle then lock him up!
What a complete effing joke this Island is. We have partisans on both sides arguing to keep their respective alleged wrong doers in office to protect their own interests. How sad is that? This place is a LOST CAUSE. Last sane one out, turn out the lights.
This is what party politics breeds.
A politician may have done something less than legal? Say is isn’t true? Shock of shocks!
what has that girl said in the parliament….just a pretty face…I wish Craig would address this situation.. or at least the real leader of the country the Milkman….?
…say no more…
I am starting to think she’s….. I really hoped this young lady would step up and take advantage of the established persons around her to be a mentored into a functional politician. Nandi – admit the truth, make a decision about your personal life you can live with and grow up! Everyone loves a redemption story. Step down and come back when you’re ready and able to contribute to the future of this country. We all make mistakes now learn from it. With all the women in that party who could have helped you make a better decision. Shame.
Innocent until proven guilty!
There you have it PLP, your line when the arrests of your own people start coming, innocent until proven guilty! Bootlegger Burt will likely be first before the bigger fish are hooked! Innocent til proven Guilty or cries o f set up will be screaming from the Family Standing strong in a glass house!
You really think that someone will be arrested for selling swizzle. Lmao.
You can’t really be serious right now.
How exactly do you make non bootleg swizzle. Isn’t all swizzle (as its made at home) bootleg?
Thanks you S Smith, Rum Swizzle has been sold out of Bermudian homes for generations. Also to note many other home made beverages such as Sorrel, Sea Moss, etc. all also use the same bottles that Burt used & have been sold in many stores for many years with no issues taken.
EXACTLY. The jails would be full if we started locking people up for that. Some people really need to get a f****** life…
@ She Has Crazy Eyes,
The jails would also be full if we starting locking people up for doing what Nandi allegedly was arrested for.
These things happen very frequently in Bermudian families. Almost everyone knows about these juicy stories, some of which involve sitting MPs.
Congrats to Bernews! You’ve got the people talking!! This person is not a MP, far from it, but the OBA knew this when they put her up for election. Now she knows nobody has her back but her.
I don’t know ANYTHING about her personally but it seems she’s not a well liked person. However there where a lot of people happy when she won her position & even voted for her so it makes you wonder of people voted based on the individuals merit or just the party..
Bermuda needs to do away with party politics & make each politician stand on their own merit alone rather then getting voted in just for the party they represent. Make it so that no one has a secure seat or is shielded by the protection of whatever party they represent thus can be voted out at any given time. A lot of what we are seeing happening with in politics locally would greatly be cut down or eliminated all together, it would also make Bermudians know who it is they are picking to represent them.
Having always been told that nobody is perfect all my life I am amazed by the amount of perfect people , who have never once done anything that they regret posting on this site. …we have ALL made bad errors in judgement…we have ALL sinned and fallen short….all this nitpicking between political parties is ridiculous. ..let the situation play itself out….if she is innocent there’s no need for her to step down……
…we have but we didn’t put our self in the loons den of politics thus public opinion! That simple!
As Christ said to the woman’s accusers. Those of you without fault, cast the first stone (they all walked away). We have young politicians on both sides who are still developing. Let’s give them a chance to learn from their mistakes and move on. Let’s not be in such a hurry to through Burt or Davis under the bus. All of the faultless people out there have a leg to stand on. However, I do not know many faultless people.
This long string of emails defending or accusing someone is totally pointless. This is simply 10 days talk – let it go folks.
Politicians are to be held accountable for their actions since they are here to represent the people. Contrary to the label of part time politicians, they represent us 24/7 in all that they do.
Like when they illegally sell alcohol.
Both parties have at least one MP representing them who has served prison time for committing very serious criminal offences. But they were allowed to run for Parliament anyhow. Where was the outcry then?
It is most hypocritical to call for her resignation.
@Rockfish: They did the crime, served their time and have moved on to become productive citizens. If an MP robbed a bank or stole drugs while sitting in the House, then they should resign. They don’t call them ‘Honourable’ for nothing, you know.
Has Nandi been convicted of anything? If not, then what is the REAL behind people calling for her head on a plate?
Well, that one’s easy! They’ve forgotten the 214 votes that Mr. Swan got in the election and are focusing on the 4 vote win.
They see an opportunity to get a seat back and, as evidenced by this page, are willing to do and say anything to make that happen.
No Mike Hind, for some reason you’ve inherited the stupid marketing gene.
An MP was arrested. Said MP should resign.
This is just a tantrum, lashing out ‘cuz you don’t like what you think I’m saying.
Well, that and you don’t want to admit what I’m saying HERE is true…
Par for the course, yet again.
A whole load of dishonesty, demagogues champing at the bit because they see an opportunity to smear, throwing out lies and misinformation, backing up none of it.
If the OBA is so bad, why do you guys have to keep lying to make the point?
Yeah, this whole situation is a fairy tale made up by the PLP. None of this ever happened so don’t worry your pretty little head & go back to sleep like a good little sheep…..
Lmao, get your head out of the oba sand
not what i said at all.
Again, if they’re so bad, why do you have to resort to dishonesty to make that point.
If what I said is so wrong, why not prove it, rather than setting up strawmen?
I think you mean ‘chomping’, Mike.
The internet is your friend.
The phrase is “Champing at the bit”. “Chomping” is acceptable because of its near constant misuse, but “champing” is correct.
Maybe try researching before you try to correct?
and if Mike Hind is not an OBA supporter, why is he trying so hard to keep on blinders that MP Nandi did nothing wrong, was not arrested or insinuate the police was wrong to arrest her?>
When did I do that?
I’m not sure you’ve read what I ACTUALLY wrote.
I never said that she wasn’t arrested and certainly didn’t say the police “was [sic] wrong to arrest her”
You’re either making stuff up or haven’t actually read the thread.
Try going back and reading it.
bY continuously asking for evidence Mike. Are you Dusty’s son?
Sorry, but no. Nothing that I’ve written even comes CLOSE to “keeping blinders on that [she] did nothing wrong, was not arrested or insinuate the police was [sic] wrong to arrest her”.
Asking people for evidence in 4 or 5 instances, after they’ve made ridiculous claims, like the taxpayer might be paying her legal fees or that the Premier hasn’t said anything because he hadn’t received instructions, is in NO way defending either Ms. Davis or the OBA.
Please stop rewriting reality and address what I ACTUALLY said.
And my family has nothing to do with the subject, thank you very much.
Yeah, and the Bermuda Police arrested her. News outlets reported it. Guess the OBA are in trying to denial this serious situation and so they are living in a fairy tale of myth.
Mike been spinning hard to change the facts, and overlooking key points in a great hope to save the OBA. He has failed, as folks are able to see the facts and examine them for themselves. Nothing will change the outcome of this situation.
Nandi was a put in a bad position by the OBA, as well as the young girl who ran in Warwick. Neither were ready to be MPs or in the tough game of politics. This is evident by what we see today. Both lack any experience of knowledge or political smarts. It was merely a political strategy by the OBA to win votes regardless of how they did it. But at the expense of two inexperience young ladies.
There is still ongoing scandal with in the OBA, but pushed under the carpet for now. Now a QC is hired, but the real story will live on in the minds of the voters.
This is not good. The reality is more is coming out all in good time.
Nope. This is not true at all.
Unless asking you to back up your claims with ANY sort of evidence is “spinning to change facts”.
Again, I have to ask: If they’re so bad, why do you have to keep lying to make this point. Surely the truth and the facts will back your position up… no?
Mike this article alone is enough proof, what more do you want?
No. It’s not. Now you’re just making stuff up.
@Transparency: I actually don’t have a problem with young people being put into politics. Numerous people have said that Nandi ‘lacked experience’. Well, don’t all politicians at some point also ‘lack experience’? They all have to start somewhere. So I have no problem with that part of it. What I have a problem with is the lack of maturity and lack of self-control. Jamahl Simmons was also very young when he was elected and he always carried himself very well whilst an MP (fan of his or not, I think most would agree with that). Being young or inexperienced is not a problem, it’s about carrying oneself with the dignity worthy of the position and making attempts to learn and grow as an MP that matters.
@Mike, you still working on “DAMAGE CONTROL” for the OBA ? YOu must be a private PR for the OBA, by God they can use some of it. As your figure-head Premier is silent and can only speak when told to do so.
It has been confirmed and reported in all Media. But it still not true in your eyes, what a great example of “OBA DENIAL SYNDROME”…..Government MP Nandi Davis was arrested in relation to a domestic incident, reported in all media…. can not change that fact.
Keep living in a dream Mike.
Nope. More lies and spin.
Come on. Back up ANY of your claims.
If not, you just come across as a dishonest propaganda merchant, trolling to try to win political points.
Don’t be a Idiot, difficult as it may be. Sitting MPs should be held to a higher standard because they are representatives of the people.
Sorry. An idiot. I had written fool first but I didn’t think it was strong enough!
What does this have to do with what I said?
When have I said anything contrary to what you said here?
Why the insults? What am I being an idiot about? (Please refer to things I’ve ACTUALLY said and not something you’ve made up…)
Mike (be)Hind (lol) you ARE an idiot! All you keep running on is evidence & claims! The facts have been stated in the daily as well as on this site so stop it with your OBA denial syndrome! Look at the big picture here, instead of just being an OBA supporter, the rest of us rational thinkers have! Not disputing the fact that she is a young lady in an emotional situation, but she is also a Government MP and should behave as such, bottom line!
This is the complete opposite of true.
“All I keep running on” is asking questions of people making claims and accusations, asking them to back up their claims. How is that “OBA denial syndrome”?
I’m looking at the big picture and what I’m seeing is a lot of people pissed off that their party didn’t win the election, desperate for ANY sort of thread to pick at, who will say anything, whether it’s true or not, to try to get their party back in power – for whatever reason.
So, I’m going to ask again:
If they’re so bad, why do you have to resort to lies and false, baseless accusations to make that point.
Interesting that the only response has been ad hominem attacks and insults and not, you know, actual facts.
I noticed that over the last month, where the OBA have tried their best to cover up Nandi, not one PLP supporter has called for her arrest, not one. The police carried out their duties to investigate, and now she has been arrested. Knowing this was coming, An OBA Minister allegedly created this entire Burt issue by reporting it to the DPP, who THEN informed the police. Can anybody say “trumped up complaint” to basically allow persons like double standard and mike hind to immediately deflect from Nandi and CALL for David Burts arrest. Notice I said that OBA minions are demanding his arrest, yet in regards to Nandi, no such calls came from anybody….
When did I call for David Burt’s arrest? That is yet another lie.
Amazing that you guys can’t come up with a single ACTUAL fact to back up your position. Why do you have to keep lying?
Time to switch drinks Mike, that Kool-Aid just isn’t doing you any good. Go try Burt I think he has something that just may work better for you.
So… no actual facts? Just insults and accusations based on nothing?
That’s what I figured.
No comment on “Concerned Citizen”‘s lie about me calling for Burt’s arrest, no comment on anything…
Just more evasive nonsense.
Let me know when you have something more than propaganda and misinformation and lies.
Come on Mike, switch drinks buddy and you too can hate on gays and take the bible as the Law of the Land.
Me, I’m staying away from the the homemade religious swizzle even if it gets a permit.
Hey Mikey boy……. Gosh geesh another day gone by….. Looks like ya gon b d last person on earth to get “it” when u do… Let’s have that big conversation…..its juicyness..time is ticking away. Get in the know if u want to continue. Stop being lazy mikester! Use your resources. N stop getting upset so much b a bigboy
Still no evidence, just more silliness to avoid it.
Oh, and I’m not getting upset. Nice try to make it seem like I am.
Thanks for making my point.
No sweets you are the one without the evidence. I do feel sorry for you. Just becuase no one has let you in, does not mean you have to behave like a child. Oh, I like the red backround. Its not personal buddy. Your jus being one of those lazy bermudians that make the rest of look bad. Hahaha jus doin to you what ya doin to others. Get off your lazy hide and get that info so we can talk Mike (be)hind time.
Um.. you do realize that, when I ask for evidence, what I’m trying to do is… um… “get that info”, right?
The rest of your post is complete gibberish and has nothing to do with anything anyone is talking about.
But you keep up with the distractions and evasions. It’s worked so well for y’all in the past.
I’ve never seen her before…
What really troubles me is that the LEADER of the opposition is a xenophobic gay basher who is incapable of seperating his extreme reliigios views from those of the State. His …is nothing compared to the sinister scenario of him running the show..
Give me Nandi any day of the week. I can forgive a bit of Latin emotion, but not cold calculated hate.
you’re troubled alright…
yup always have been troubled by gay bashing and xenophobia. Particularly when it comes from the leader of a party.
The thought of this wielding real power makes me shudder.
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What’s stupid is even though a sound was made and no one heard it doesn’t negate that the sound exist LMAO
The only sound you heard was your own brain fart.
I am loath to attempt to score political points on the personal matters of a politician whose political party I don’t support; however if you are in politics the line is very thin in regards to one’s personal life and the political world you have chosen to enter. In some circumstances it may not be a big thing if you are caught speeding or even if you are
haul into court for the non-payment of a parking ticket. it comes down to what you are being accuse off.You take the situation of the race for the position of mayor in New York city where the sexual escapades of one
of the candidates on the internet has had severe political ramifications
for his political ambitions. Now the OBA is attempting to nullify the political ramifications of one of thier MP’s whose personal life has merge into the political life. The OBA with it’s very thin majority in the House is very much aware of what is at stake politically; hence it’s
public stance of trying to distant itself; but behind the scene feverish activity at damage control; hence the hiring of a top lawyer to
defend in a up comming court case. I used to call the OBA the anti-Bermudian one term OBA government; I may have to make a small change;’The anti-Bermudian half a term OBA government.
just as a matter of interest, if there were to be a bi-election and the plp won the seat, it would not be an 18-18 parliament, dont forget there is one independant in the house in the form of Mr Lister, and he would be in a very powerful poition if the house was 18-17-1……and thats if the speaker would actually step down, he may not do that either, then we have 18 oba 16 plp 1 independant and 1 speaker, so the independant and the speaker would be the two most powerful votes in the house, and who could vote either way at any time.Either way this young lady has put this country in a hell of a mess if she is found guilty, as then she would have to resign her seat.
Are the 214 voters who voted for Mr. Swan in the last elections suddenly going to vote PLP?
Seriously?
Well they didn’t want to vote OBA…..
So, I ask my question again…
Are they going to vote PLP?
Seriously?
The case has to be tried,if the evidence warrants!
Until then,Mrs.Outerbridge is innocent until proven guilty.
Mike stop playing Police for the OBA, if not go clean up the other MESS in the Party, if you really know what is going on within the house of the OBA, guess not…as your not even willing to accept this fact…..now do you also know the other story going on within the OBA..or are you really an outsiders, trying to be an insiders….
Mike your off duty now, the word is out….little you can do to save the impact of the OBA now…. go drink some swizzle….
Is that all you have? “Go drink some swizzle”?
If you want me to go away, it’s easy. Use the truth instead of lies and innuendo.
It’s funny how desperate you seem to be to shut me up with the weird little “stop playing police” and “go drink some swizzle”, yet you ignore the ACTUAL points and questions in my posts.
Interesting. I wonder why that is…
The African Queen trolling again.
Nandi was arrested. End of story.
Can’t make that up.
I really hope she doesnt seat down, this was a mistake and everyone makes mistake. This story will blow over in a few months and all you bermudians would love her again! THE CIRCLE OF LIFE!
Let me get this straight! Burt is allegedly selling alcohol illegally using ingredients from an alcohol company to make swizzle? What does market place do with all the outdated ingredients ie flour butter yeast etc??
Do they throw them away or do they take those same outdated ingredients and make baked goods and then sell them to you as FRESH baked bread,cookies,cakes,doughnuts etc? Is that legal?? Just wondering!!
Just like OBA does Hubba.
A bit off topic but you stated .
Oven Baked Appetizers …..
Interesting a current story very much in comparison with the OBA’s dilemma occured in the run up to the elections in Australia. A young aspiring member of parliament went on national TV and a fool out of herself by stating that Islam is a country and that Jews worship Jesus Christ. The comments went virul on the social media and as a result force her to withdraw as a candidate. Her leader of the so-called anti-
immigrant party as it is called appeared on national TV along with his young party member trying to explain her uninformed if not dumb comments;stated she is young; she is inexperinced; the young lady in question asked if she could say something; a curt No’ was reply of the leader. Leadership in action. In Bermuda leadership is absent; no sign of the premier nor his deputy or any of the top brass of the OBA; they are all running for the hills; leaving thier young charge to face the music alone; of course not quite alone she does have this top notch lawyer.
This type of thing is unacceptable. She should be made to step down. Renee Ming is still out there working hard. This should have been her seat. OBA you are looking pretty bad.
Renee Ming, you are still looking very professional at what you are doing. Keep up the good work. Here comes a Bi-Election for sure.
Conerned born St.Georgian
So, after over 200 comments obviously this matters. Why does it matter? It matters because:
1. every report about Dr. Kevin Brown read like his father did it and was on the front page
2. Makai Dickinson’s spliff almost made him into our Edward Snowden
3. Jamal Blakeney’s arrest, trial and conviction was fair game
4. Neletha’s granddaughter was fair game
5. every time Andre Curtis farted it was because he was “Dr. Brown’s campaign manager”
6. because Nelson Bascome was convicted in the opposition media long before his trial ever took place (eventually he was found not guilty)
Need I go on? The irony is, I agree with the OBA. This is a personal matter. In the grand scheme of things, this sordid, ghetto love triangle is hardly of concern to me. But it matters because in Opposition, the UBP and then the OBA cobbled together a patchwork of personal failings and made them into political issues. Aided and abetted by the ever-friendly media our politics got re-defined so that issues took a back seat and this kind of tawdry BS is what is now supposed to concern us.
The joke is, having successfully created this monster, the OBA is now its latest victim. Nothing is getting done and certainly not on the timetable they promised; and why? Because these and other stupid distractions dominate their time and effort. They loosed this genie from the bottle thinking that it could be put back once they were in power. Obviously they didn’t read to the end of the story. The toothpaste theory applies: once its out, it ain’t ever goin back in.
And by the way, if Nandi doesn’t remain and Renee Ming wins a bye-election, that’s 18-16 in the House (with Randy and Terry on their own planets). That’s un-governable so if all that happens, get out your red and black cause we’re back to the polls soon.
No wonder the cigar silk is on the case. Another day in paradise.
Still ignoring the 214 that Mr. Swan recieved.
Ms. Ming is highly unlikely to win.
If it’s an OBA safe seat, as you are claiming, then, why not jut go to by-election? If the OBA is going to win anyway, go to a by-election and replace Nandi with someone with INTEGRITY.
Why? Because a bunch of Bernews posters hiding behind pen names are calling for her to step down?
THAT’S how you want the country to work?
no Mike, because she was arrested for PERSONAL MATTER.
All we know, for sure, at this point is that she was arrested and released on bail.
This is not reason for her to step down. Not yet.
These calls are WAY too early, which calls the motivation into question.
If Renee Ming wins, I think terry would hot-foot it back to the PLP in a heartbeat. If Randy steps down as Speaker (is that even allowed?) then we are in for a very interesting experience. That’s why the OBA will defend Nandi and try to hold onto her with their dying breath.
@Frodo
You are absolutely correct, there is another O.B.A M.P involved in a scandal. It hasn’t been released publicly via cyber space, more so from inside sources.
Care to enlighten us?
I’m really starting t feel sorry for this girl…no matter what happened, this is brutal. Remind me to never run for public office!
OBA needs to press the RE-CALL BUTTON THEY HAD PUT IN THEIR ELECTION CAMPAIGN.
OBA needs to stop hiding behind cowardly statements. She needs to go! She needs to step down. Call a by-election! Time to recall Nandi and Police Mike Hind a diehard OBAubp. Poor taste of choice to run in an election, no skills or political knowledge.
Get ready Renee Ming!
That’s not going to happen Betty, this too shall pass!
We cannot go back! We must not go back!
Here we go with the “You’re a diehard OBA if you dare to disagree with me” tactic. Par for the course.
Ridiculous.
@Sandy Bottom
The O.B.A’s life span is not long after a
At this juncture, what’s my overall conclusion:
Although we ALL have experienced times when our FLESH has failed us, please only run for political office if you’re certain that in going forward you can CONQUER the human pitfall of “FALLING SHORT AND MAKING MISTAKES”!!!!!
GOOD LUCK!!!!! SMH
I know Mike just wants it all to just go away. Ok Mike I will help you to sleep well tonight……IT ALL NEVER REALLY HAPPENED!! Ok … Feel better. Great
This is just ridiculous.
I don’t know if she’s guilty or not. I’ve never defended her or said it never happened.
All I’ve done, repeatedly and to no avail, is ask if those that are making accusations have any evidence to back it up.
I don’t “want it all to just go away”. I simply want people to post with integrity and honesty and start actually behaving with decency.
If you have to distract and lie and change the subject to avoid backing up your claims, then your claims can be dismissed completely.
Dump her and have a bi election with John Barritt….
@Tramsparency for Real!!
You have spoken volumes.
We have an M.P. who has nothing to offer Bermuda.
Nandi needs resign ,she is in- effective and was used to
secure votes from a certain segment of the population.
As I have seen here there are a few people having a difficult time accepting the truth,sandy bottom is one of them .
Lastly you all did it to yourselves via greed and deceit.
Nandi,do not resign those PLP diehards just want to get back to ripping us off!
Just the mere fact that MIKE needs to make so many “OBA Denial Comments” for the OBAubp, Suggest this is a major issue within the OBA camp. It lets folks know it is more real than life its self.
It also suggest he must defend this young lady as she is falling slowly off the political wall. Thanks Mike, your comments confirm that you fighting a battle that is serious enough to warrant you to put on your defend Cap for the OBA, regardless how many times it takes. The only thing your missing it that the battle is out in the public eyes. Your comments do not help the OBA, but confirm to the public more that all is not right within the OBA camp.
Folks know the real story behind this OBA MESS. Folks are not blind or dumb. It is not something you can control, it is beyond the OBA police (MIKE)’s control. Funny your having such difficulty accepting that fact. The WORD ON NANDI IS NOW PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE even what is not printed in the media. But, if it helps you feel. I would stop asking if I were you, as more continues to come to light.
It is wise that you stop the OBAubp Spinning Machine….lol…
The same could be said about you and the multitude of comments you leave on just about every article, especially if it portrays the oba in a bad light. Hypocrisy at it’s best.
“It lets folks know it is more real than life its self.”
…What? Oh, you meant life ITSELF. Still makes no sense. Do you even know what you type or you just let the crap flow from your fingertips? Fact is, there is nothing to this story, yet. I was arrested once and let go a few minutes later because the person implicating me was lying. Might not be the case here but we don’t know yet. If and when more of this story unfolds then you can have your opinion, but right now there’s nothing here, all you can do is watch and wait.
Here we go again. The propaganda merchants going on the attack because someone DARED asked them to be honest and back up their claims.
As per usual, this is not ok with them because they have nothing. They’re so desperate to smear, they’ll say anything, any lie, to push their agenda.
Why is it so horrible to ask people to back up the things they say?
Why is asking for honesty and integrity “the OBAupb Spinning Machine”?
And “Tramsparency for Real!!”? You’re not me and I don’t care what you would do if you were me. Mainly because you’ve proven yourself to be nothing more than a PLP demagogue, desperate to get your party back in power and, more importantly, so terrified that someone is going to do a better job than the party you follow that you will actually do harm to the country to make sure they don’t.
That’s just awful.
And, for the record, I am not a member or supporter of the OBA.
This is just another lie from the kind of person who uses phrases like “OBAubp” and “OBA Denial Comments”, which, of course, isn’t an actual thing.
You have some serious issues Mr. Hind.
Your not in control as you are on your own site nor a moderator anymore on others.
Like many have stated before you are an “attention whore”.
You have proved that by hijacking this entire thread with your usual “show me/prove me” and all that crap.
Get a life.
Hey, Rummy.
Nice to see you haven’t changed at all.
Still falsely accusing people of being a paedophile when they don’t play your stupid games?
@Hind, evidence – why hire a QC lawyer..? You may not now be a member of the OBA but ‘evidence’ in your postings pre and post 2012 election, evidently shows differently. Don’t be ashamed if you are you are!
Simply and completely untrue.
More baseless, false accusations without a lick of proof to back it up.
Come on.
Are Yookalaylees illegal?
Mike, do you honestly expect us to believe you’re not an OBA supporter? What is your motive here, then? You say you don’t know this girl from Eve yet you’re defending her like crazy. Why are you not on other stories defending people like crazy-like the man accused of using offensive words, for example? Why are you blindly and ferociously defending Nandi Davis? Give us a break-and then you accuse other people of lying?!
And, again with the misrepresentation.
Read the thread. You’re telling falsehoods.
Nandi needs to resign, I’m a tax payer therefore, I pay her salary and I live in constituency #2. Premier do the right thing! Thanks.
do you really know what is going on with the situation? If you did you won’t be saying this!
Come correct and Mike Hinds, your both living in OBAubp Denial Syndrome, what is of great significance is that your not able to recognize your own illness or weakness…. This is your regular OBA spin that you do on a regular basis on every issue that impacts the OBA. Your foolishness is so real, that it is now kicking you back in the face. The reality is this is serious matter that the OBA do not want to face, despite folks seeing it in all its full glory, your words will not change the actual story or outcomes…GIVE IT UP…..
Keep writing Mike and Come Correct…your revealing the facts that this case is not looking good, and these young girls were merely ponds in the OBA game of politics to win votes. Even a blind fool can see thur your nonsense and blindfaithfulness.
And here we go with the complete nonsense from yet another PLP demagogue, willing to say anything, no matter how false, to push their agenda.
Here’s a question:
Why are you so terrified of integrity and standing behind your words that you have to go to THESE lengths to not have to do so?
I asked for folks to back up their claims, like, 4 or 5 times.
THIS is the result of asking for integrity.
All these lies and false accusations and freaking out and insults and misdirection.
Not once has anyone said “Here’s why I said that” or “Here’s the evidence that the taxpayers are paying her legal fees” or even something as weak as “I heard from a friend that the OBA has told their bloggers not to post on this”
My track record over the years speaks for itself, with regard to my support of ANY political party. I simply don’t.
No matter how much you don’t like it when people ask you to be honest, it doesn’t change the fact that I am NOT a supporter of a political party in Bermuda. No matter how you might wish it to be so, because that would justify YOUR blind allegiance to your party, it’s just not true.
Mike Hind is a big joke, he lacks the highest level of integrity based upon his comments pre-election and post-election. I think he has short-term memory deficits problems. If anyone has engaged in more OBA spin and political rhetoric it has been Mike Hind. This man is a joke to himself and the other OBA folks. He only sees things from one perspective to ensure that OBA looks good, regardless of their wrong doings. He only fools himself, and dwells in a blind faithfulness of the OBA. He engaged in some negative comments and spin pre-election in an attempt to bring down the PLP. This man is more than dishonest, he is a real hypocrite. Who does he think he is fooling….. He is only fooling himself, as others can see right thur his spin.
Stop defending the indefensible, NANDI has been used by folks like Mike Hind and the OBA. Now she is paying the price due to her lack of political knowledge and know how. What a shame that these young black girls have been used as nothing more than Black surrogates. The OBA ran these girls for one thing only, to win by any means necessary, regardless of the impact on them. This is the outcomes we now see and are faced with.
None of this is true. Not a single word.
It begs the question:
If you are so righteous, why do you have to resort to lies?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Everybody is a liar but YOU, huh Mike?
You’ve really lost all credibility so just go away like a nice little boy (speaking of little boys, I take you as the kind of guy who as a kid would let all the neighbourhood kids play with your games, but then sulk and take all your toys home with you rather than let them continue to enjoy them when they don’t let you win).
Not what I said at ALL.
But the ones lying? Yeah, they’re liars.
For instance, Transparency For Real!!
The things he said in that post above? All lies. Thus, he is a liar.
See how I backed up my statement? It’s that easy.
Why do you have such a problem with this concept?
As for my “credibility”? That point is moot. I’m not the one making unsubstantiated claims about other people.
And as for what YOU, a PLP hack, desperate to get your party back into power, no matter what depths you have to sink to, thinks of me?
There are very few things I care about less.
It’s Shark Week.
Don’t feed the trolllllllllllllllllll dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun……..
Mike is nothing more than an attention seeker.
He asks the same questions over and over and over just to antagonize because he knows people who don’t sign their real names will not answer his asinine repetitive gibberish.
Troll. Lonely. Should have taken up the fiddle instead.
And here’s the biggest troll of all, still lying after all these years.
Why don’t you tell people how you were banned from every forum on the island because of your bad behaviour, lies and false accusations against innocent people, Rummy?
Let it go fool.
Let it go.
Lies and more lies.One incident.
Shut up.
How many posts you have here Mike Hind.
That’s the sign of a troll.
Now go away.
Not a single lie from me.
Here’s one from YOU, though… “One incident”
Par for the course from you.
Stop feeding the troll.
I am outta here folks.
Seek help Uncle Elvis.
Don’t feed the troll.
if burt resigns, guess what, PLP wins. If nandi resigns, PLP wins – so its a win win situation for PLP. lmao
Come on oba hit that button!!!!
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who?! that random lady claimin she knows politics. she jus smells de green LMFAO
LIKE!
amen
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That so-called random lady is well known and well respected. She has been working behind the scenes and in numerous positions in St. George’s and beyond for years. Ever listened to her in the Senate? Thought not. Do your homework and get the facts before you come to us with your unintelligent, uninformed comments.
So just because you’re a friend or she’s been friendly to people in St. Georges don’t mean she deserves a job. Has she been in politics before (not saying Nandi deserves it either), but it still don’t make it right. Yes I have listened to her, she speaks well, still has no clue how a country runs though, just trying to catch the gravy train because she’s “well-known”. I know more den you think I do bra, believe dat!
@E$
If you know as much as you claim, you would know Nandi nor the Premier know much about running a country either, but are elected officials. If you know the truth, you would have to admit both of them are wet behind the ears when it comes to politics.
Sure, all 3 of them.