Motorcycle Chase, Shots Fired, Car Crashes
[Updated with video. Police confirm that suspects on a motorcycle shot at a man driving a car in the Southampton area, resulting in the vehicle crashing into a wall.
The incident started in the Tee Street, Devonshire area, with the suspects — described as two men on a motorcycle dressed in white — chasing the car until it crashed in Southampton. The BMW has what appears to be bullet holes in it.]
At sometime around 5.30pm today [Sept 27] there was a shooting in the Southampton area, and unofficial reports indicate that shots were fired at a car, which then subsequently crashed.
Details are limited at this time, however we will update as able.
Update 6.20pm: Police Media Manager Dwayne Caines said, “Assailants on a motorcycle shot at a man driving in a vehicle, resulting in the vehicle crashing into a wall at the entrance of the Fairmont Southampton.
“No one was actually shot, however a man received what appears to be minor injuries as a result of the crash,” Mr Caines added.
“It is now a very active police scene with first responders active in the area, and the Bermuda Police Service is advising anyone needing to gain entry to the property to use the Middle Road, Southampton entrance.”
Update 6.53pm: We continue to receive unofficial reports that the car was being fired at for some time before it crashed, with unofficial reports indicating it started well before Southampton.
Update 6.56pm: Police confirm that the road is blocked from Warwick Lane [west of Astwood Park] to Henry VIII. “We will communicate with the public immediately when those roads re-open,” Mr. Caines said.
Update 7.15pm: The car has what appears to be bullet holes in it, with the photo below showing what appears to be three holes in the back of the car.
The rest of the car does not appear to be damaged:
Update 7.35pm: The police are expected to give a media briefing soon, so we remain on scene waiting for that and will update as able.
Update 7.54pm: The police are about to give a statement, Superintendent Martin Weekes is expected to speak.
Update 7.56pm: Superintendent Weekes said that at about 5.39pm this evening, they responded to multiple reports of two men on a motorcycle firing gunshots at a black car on South Shore Road.
“We believe this incident started around the Tee Street, Devonshire area and finally finished outside the Southampton Princess on South Shore Road, when the vehicle came to a stop up against a wall outside the hotel,” said Superintendent Weekes.
He also said the suspects on the motorcycle were dressed in white clothing.
Superintendent Weekes added, “We are appealing for anyone who saw anything between those two points, between Tee Street in Devonshire and the Southampton Princess, involving two men dressed in white clothing on a motorcycle following a black motor vehicle.”
Update 8.41pm: This incident began in Devonshire, and ended in Southampton, meaning it continued through Paget and Warwick, a distance that Google Maps says is around 10km, although it should be noted they use the Middle Rd route. Click for map.
Update 8.50pm: Video statement from Superintendent Weekes added
When asked about the car driver’s condition, Superintendent Weekes said, “I understand that the injuries to the individual who was driving the car are not life threatening at this time.”
Unofficial reports indicate someone was taken from the scene in an ambulance, and when asked was the person shot, the Superintendent said, “It’s too early to tell, we will learn more from when the doctors finish their examination.”
Update 10.13pm: While they did not explicitly say it was correlated with this incident, the Bermuda Cricket Board has postponed tomorrow’s [Sept 28] T20 and U17 All-Star game, citing a “heightened security risk, subsequent to recent incidents.”
The BCB said, “Due to advice regarding a heightened security risk, subsequent to recent incidents, the Lindos T20 and the BF&M U17 All-Star game, scheduled to take place on Sunday 28 September at SCC, have both been postponed until further notice.”
Update 10.40pm: The police have confirmed that the roads are now back open
This follows five days after 17-year-old male was injured in a shooting at a Southampton residence.
Anyone with any information is urged to contact the Police on 295-0011, or the independent and confidential Crime Stoppers hotline on 800-8477.
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However we shall continue to hold the government of the day fully responsible for the national security of Bermuda .
Well de way I see it was just a warning cause there were no shots aimed at de windows !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless there was someone in de trunk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I stopped wearing my dark clothing, now don’t tell me um gotta stop wearing white too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any one of those 3 bullets could have killed the driver or passenger in the car….and they could have carried on outside the car and killed an innocent person. Those caught with guns need to be kept away from us all.
What kind of sick person disliked the above post??
When scrolling down on a smartphone your finger sometimes ends up hitting the dislike button and if you try to hit it twice to cancel it just says you already disliked so too bad. Check the comment on white clothing as well, that’s where I discovered I hit dislike but could change it.
Happened about a minute before I drove by… did not see a thing…
The bikers obviously drove westward.
Hold up wait a minute, you mean to tell me that a bike was chasing a car(assumingly) for 10km, (assumingly) at high speed chase and not one of our sophisticated traffic camaras or our finest from BPS encountered this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh I forgot about de guy that rode de bike from Mount Hill to Somerset !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SMFH
I said the exact same thing!!
They could chase him from Tee Street to Southampton without a cop in sight.
But let somebody be driving and on their cellphone…they would be all over your butt!!!
Just to think they have been out most days withe radar
Too busy worrying about catching people not wearing their seat-belts. All about the $$$.
@Kunta, surely the cameras would be camera footage would be helpful after the fact. Come on now. you should be asking how many calls did the BPS get from other motorists concerning a cha and bike chase for more then 6 miles. That what has come to my mind. Hopefully in time the cameras at Paget Stop Lights will reveal something.
It would be interesting to know where the police were for this, but I suspect part on the cause is that only certain units are designated/equipped to respond first to firearm incidents. Not all of our police are equipped with firearms. Since the incident started at T-Street and presumably those units that would respond would either be from Prospect or Hamilton Station, so by the time the calls come in, they are already behind the chase. A running gun chase like this is a new experience, and even in the event of such an occurrence of overseas, the police would not put themselves directly behind the gunman, lest they be shot at too. The typical response would be to try and predict an intercept point where they could deploy measure to disable the vehicle/s and overseas it would still take the time to deploy such measures. The incident covered about 10km, conservatively the vehicles would have been averaging 60km/h, roughly 10mins from start to finish, optimistic 2mins for 911 calls to get in and signal to police and unless there was any prepped units already mobile and close enough to respond another 1-2 mons to get them mobilized.
Without a special equipment police unit in a position to respond, it is unlikely they could have gotten to the incident before maybe Church Bay and then the best point of intercept would have been at Barnes Corner, with unit responding from Somerset.
I’m not going to hit the police too hard for their response to this, it is an unusual incident in this island, I think even the first, I just hope all our fancy new CCTV can produce something useful.
Here we go again..”
Smh, here we go again!
So I guess this latest violent episode of gunplay will erode the false sense of security that the governing party along with the BPS has lulled the public into , especially the elderly and the C4′s !
Maybe now Jeff Baron will put on his red cape and spring into action …..
Take a break. Bermuda has been quiet with no gun violence for a long time. Probably longer than at any time under the PLP.
No one has lulled the public into anything. There simply has been no gun violence.
Unbelievable it DOES NOT MATTER who is or who was in power …gun violence might not happen every weekend but other acts of violence occur EVERY weekend and we do NOT hear about it ..there was a huge fight last night at BAA with several injuries. ..have we heard that. ..the same night the 17 year old was shot there was another huge fight..there are many many incidents that the public are not aware of, so YES we are lulled into a false sense of security…we hear nothing so we think that all bodes well.. …things on the island are not as quiet as they appear…the streets are NEVER quiet….
I was simply rebutting what Coffee was trying to imply. We are talking about gun violence here not fights.
And I was “rebutting” what you said…doesn’t matter if it was a shooting or fighting….violence is violence….it was YOU that mentioned a political party and I was just bringing it to your attention (and I’m sure you got the message) it doesn’t matter WHO is in power..I stick to MY statement/opinion…sorry you don’t agree….
Well said
Uh….Coffee brought up the Govt of the day and going by his or her clear historical bias, Coffee brought it up. I was not the first to bring up any political party.
So now I have a clear historical bias ! Lol …. If one read any article on gun violence just a few years ago , it was almost impossible to distinguish the political from the perpetrators .
Let me say this , it was horrible than , it is horrible now . However we shall continue to hold the government of the day fully responsible for the national security of Bermuda . Can you agree with that ?
When the PLP was in power we had criminal trials and sentences on the front page all the time. Since the OBA has been in power I notice the stories about crime have simmered down. Makes me think those who control a certain media had an agenda.
In the past week there were numerous stories about murderers being sentenced all over the press.
But don’t let that stop your “conspiracy” theories.
Murderers being sentenced? Wouldn’t that be considered a ‘good’ story to show that the party in power is doing positive, ‘good’ things for the island? Wake up. Just because you may not believe it does not mean it’s a conspiracy.
I was just answering the turkey who thought that stories about ctiminal trials only happened when the PLP were in power. The two of you need to get your story straight.
This isn’t political or racial it’s… crime and these idiots probably don’t even vote! This is a social issue that police nor politicians can fix. We just need better parents!
The person(s) who pulled the trigger are responsible for this. Not the Govt. or the Opposition.
I agree!! We the parents are partially responsible. Stop looking the other way!! Stop saying “Not my son/daughter…” Many of you know what your child is into but turn a blind eye….Just keep it up! You may the passenger in a car that that gets rained with bullets!! Bullets do not have eyes…(and it seems neither do these dumb***s who call themselves hitmen!!) You may be the one to get hurt!! Stop blaming PLP and OBA!! Clean up your household!!
LOL. Jeff did say he had the answer before the election. Politicians will say anything to fool the people into voting for them.
Don’t worry…
I hear “The Equalizer.” will be here shortly……??
A shooting at the doorsteps of Mr. and Mrs. Tourist at the South P. Wake up Mr. Dunkley. I’m hoping the guys who did this will be caught by the end of the weekend!
Wake up to what exactly??
Who’s in charge of National Security Jimmy Boy!?
And how exactly is the minister of national security supposed to stop one thug from committing a shooting on any given day???
OH but when the PLP were in charge EVERYONE was blaming them for the violence!!! GO LONG JIM!
Just what we need all of the tourists staying at The Southampton Princess to see!
Please, its not like there is any other type of entertainment going on…….
lol, you got me there.
Glad the tourist was not pulling out on there slow bikes while the car crashed
@ ComeOnBermuda don’t mean to burst ya bubble but maybe where these tourist are from there are shootings on a daily basis, but I do agree with you.
And I bet that where those tourists are from they don’t lie about the place being a ‘pristine , peaceful and safe ‘notherworld .
Let me fill you in on how close this was to an almost national disaster for our tourism industry.
Last night I attended a wedding reception at the Reefs for an American/Bermudian couple. The time was 6.00pm
The entire wedding party, 20 persons, was staying at the South Princess and at around 5.30 to 5.40 were picked up by one of the small trains to transport them to the Reefs. It must have been a very close call for them to clear the gate on their way to the Reefs just before this happened. Just think of the consequences of that car crashing into that train loaded with Tourists all from the Boston area. Just give that some thought and see how close we came to having a major problem.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Jamaica has been ranked as one of the top 5 tourist destinations and has one of the highest murder rates in de Caribbean and tourist get killed every year in any destination, yes it would have been a disaster but a far cry from not coming to Bermuda anymore.
NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reefs was probably too expensive for the wedding party to stay there.
“So I guess this latest violent episode of gunplay will erode the false sense of security that the governing party along with the BPS has lulled the public into ”
Do you constantly have a bad taste in your mouth?
It’s probably the overwhelming hatred you have for the democratically elected governing party.
You’re right though, people should continue to fear the unsafe environment the PLP created for Bermuda.
I’d like to know where n why political reference comes in ???? I’m listening !!
ask Coffee
I thought Coffee said something about Jeff Baron and I thought that had to do with the incident at Swizzle Inn And I THOUGHT Mr. Baron was acting as a concerned citizen in that instance so IIII T H O U G H T Coffee’s comment wasn’t political but rather about Mr. Baron’s recent community activism NOT politics but we ALL know what THOUGHT made a man do………
Just out of curiosity, was the PLP democratically elected in 1998, 2003 and 2007 or are only
those governments you support democratically elected and therefore exempt from criticism?
Stop putting the PlP in this tell ya oba find some jobs!
Check the camera’s
Now we’re talkin’!
Ahh, de cameras aint working.
Reminds me of the politicians, just costs alot of money to install.
Right in front of a hotel, goodness gracious. Round up all of these clowns!
Blocked off from Warwick Lane to Henrys… I drove through a little bit ago, unsuspecting anything, on the way back it was all still going on, saw a little yellow marker, like the “here is a bullet” marker, at the junction of Spice Hill and Warwick Lane along with several police…. there had been loads of bystanders earlier….
Hey it’s a Par Three Golf Course.
Wonder how many spectators will come forth with such errant shots.
Namaste.
By tomorrow S.P. will be crawling with interpol police here for a conference. Who knew they’d have to do field work as part of their Bermuda welcome.
How dare these guys do this so near to tourists? We are trying to fight a bigger battle here to save our country’s economy and you know the press and the US Consulate website will love to write something about this. I despair.
So as long as the shooting is confined to certain neighbourhoods its ok ? Got it.
I understand your point but I’m upset that they would do this around innocent people, period. This is beyond sickening. Many, many people came this way today (including me)…any of us could have been going along minding our own business only to end up with a bullet in our heads due to this nonsense that doesn’t involve any of us.
I IMPLORE michael Dunkley to get tough with this. Enough is enough. There was discussion about sending convicts convicted of serious crimes such as this to serve out their times overseas. This is something the Government must seriously look at. It may not stop all of these hoodlums but it may stop some if they know that if caught they will be sent to prison in Jamaica to serve out their term. PLEASE look into this, Premier Dunkley.
Sending convicted criminals to a prison outside of Bermuda makes sense, why? WTF
What’s the difference where they serve their time? Have u seen the recent convictions for some of the heinous crimes committed in Bda! These ‘guys’ have been gettin 30+ yr sentences… and I hardly read or hear positive comments about the Police who investigated or the DPP who present the cases!!! Do u all realize the work that goes on behind the scenes??? No one can predict crime! When or where it happens is mostly dependable of circumstance! Jo-public needs to start offering words of encouragement and stop with the blame! We all need to assist in quelling this anti-social behavior! Everyone in this community has a role to play… on a daily basis! Why haven’t I read “1″ blog from a potential witness… when the incident(s) occurred between South Shore , Dev…up to South P’s main southern gate!!! Not 1!!! Get on board people… Do the right thing… Or… R u too scurred???
@James/Blondie:
BECAUSE Westgate is NO deterrent to these guys, that’s why! Going to Westgate where they’ll have three hots and a cot, spend time with their boys, where family and friends can readily visit them, where they’ll have excellent medical and dental care (something our seniors can’t even afford), where they have a gym to work out and every other pleasure you can think of DOES NOT DETER THESE MEN!!!
It now costs over $80,000 per year to house a prisoner at Westgate. Look at all these hoodlums doing 20 plus years and do the math on how much we spend to incarcerate them! They sit up there contributing NOTHING to society and don’t care that they are in prison. Plus, with the high cost of keeping individuals incarcerated, they are paroled early to save money-DO YOU KNOW THAT? One young man sentenced to 12 years for attempted robbery WITH A HANDGUN was out in less than two and I am not exaggerating (I can’t name him because Bernews would probably not post this but it is true!)
If these men knew that they would be going to a REAL prison where mama can’t readily visit them and they don’t have all these comforts, they would think twice! The psychological advantage of not knowing what prison they will be going to and in what country would have a tremendous impact. FURTHERMORE, we would be paying these prison to take our convicts and it would be at a fourth of what we’re paying now-Jamaica comes to mind because their prisons MEAN BUSINESS and it would cost less than $20,000 per prisoner for Bermuda. We wouldn’t need to hire as many prison officers, they could cut down on overtime and the older ones could retire which would all SAVE BERMUDA MONEY!
The biggest advantage would be the psychological one, as I mentioned-if these guys stopped to think that they might get sent to Cuba or Jamaica or whatever prison we make arrangements with, it just might make them think twice. Furthermore, I personally know someone who was sent to prison in Jamaica and it scared him straight-he said “never again.” It would cut down on recidivism because no-one would want to be sent overseas to serve out their sentence!
I shouldn’t even have to explain this…most right-thinking people know the advantages and it is something that has been mooted ever since Randy Horton was Home Affairs minister-the idea of sending our prisoners to prison in a Caricom member country. There are obstacles but it COULD work and has HUGE benefits. What are we going to do-wait until a child is hot in a drive-by? It’s time to be proactive for once…THINK ABOUT IT!!!
*shot
why are people always quick to say send them to jamaica ! If I am not mistaken many of the incidents that have taken place here are from people that have some sort of connection with Jamaica and i doubt the problem will decline infact it will probably grow! bermudians need to make our prison harsh and crimes comitted here are to be paid here make these sob’s pay for their up keep in the prison make them make t shirts license plates etc, stop trying to send these people home after they comit a crime here,and further more iimigration WAKE UP ! I HAVE COME ACROSS SEVERAL people who are not local that simply over stayed on the island until they manage to get some sort of anchor.
Immigration has a hotline to report incidents such as these. If you think people have overstayed their time, why haven’t you done your civic duty and reported them? Or are you simply making assumptions with no facts to back them up?
For most people with bad intentions punishment is hardly a deterrent much less a consideration BEFORE they commit a crime…that would be an act of a rational person….do you really think these people are rational?
I feel like I was brain damaged between the age of 16 and 34 and I NEVER got into any trouble…..with the law but I couldn’t be trusted and I’m saying this in hind sight. I might still be brain damaged but I’m definitely NOT as impulsive as I used to be.
Part of the reason for prison is to protect society. Even if it doesn’t act as a deterrent, at least a long prison sentence gets a violent thug off the streets.
This has got to be the silliest comment tonight! This foolishness shouldn’t be happening anywhere! The urgency to correct this needs to happen regardless of who it effects..
Mixitup, certain people in this community don’t care about the shootings/killings as long as it doesn’t happen in their backyards or effects their businesses/money.
Ah, “certain people”. The code words again.
Everyone of a “certain race” doesn’t care about shootings. is that it?
You know what they call people who classify others by their race, don’t you?
Can I just clarify – of course it’s not acceptable ANYWHERE, and wherever it happens, innocent people could be affected. I’m just saying that we as a nation are struggling to rebuild tourism and things like this will be a huge setback. Imagine what the staff of the Fairmont Southampton were having to tell the tourists to explain the reason the South Shore entrance was closed…
******* on they young s***, young s****! Everybody catching bullet holes, bullet holes!….. This what happens when u listen to all this rap makes u wanna act it out! Smh
Question to Consider
In the words of Martin Luther King, Jr., “Life’s most persistent and urgent question is, ‘What are you doing for others?’” Reassess your dream by asking, “Who will benefit the most when it comes true?” If the answer revolves around you, then you still have some thinking to do in order to stretch your dream from selfishness to significance.
Bermuda is our home, and this is without doubt, bad publicity that we must unite in order to stop! This is ludicrous behavior of these a few wanna-be-gangsters that are jeopardizing our / Bermudas future as a safe haven…especially when incidence like this occur in front of a 5 star Hotel
Which 5 star hotel?
I hate to say it, but it is crime….so do not blame the OBA, the so called parents are responsible for these hooligans.
I wonder who the fathers of these misguided youth are ?
There was a confrontation the other night at a club … all hell broke loose…….
I’m sick of the excuses and I blame the parents as well. I’m so sick of society getting blamed. Many of us raised our children to be law-abiding citizens; why should this country be held hostage due to these punks whose parents didn’t do the same?
Excuses, excuses, excuses are all we hear. I’m black, I was raised ‘back of town’ and my family had very little but ALL of my siblings and I grew up to be responsible, productive, LAW-ABIDING citizens because our parents disciplined us. We were at a family gathering when we heard this news and we were talking about how our mother raised us with an iron fist-she did not mess around and would peel our backsides if we got out of line. The funny thing is that none of my siblings or myself believes in corporal punishment ourselves but we all raised our children with that same discipline (discipline doesn’t necessarily mean physical punishment). What is the problem? What happened to make these kids so destructive? Again, the buck stops in the home. A lot of mothers are going to be crying if they don’t get their s**t together and raise their kids right.
It’s a simple as that? huh, who knew
What else is there to it? You disagree then state why. Annie is spot on.
The mothers probably won’t be crying. If they actually cared about their sons they wouldn’t let them run around all hours of the day and night doing a pack. How many of their mothers are up at night worrying? Calling to see where they are and what they are doing? Probably none of them.
Annie, I totally agree with you as I, myself have raised my daughter the same way and also live back of town. I do not condone bad behavior and have no problem correcting any child whom I have direct contact with. However where a lot of parents tend to go wrong is in trying to be FRIENDS with their kids as opposed to parenting, therefore that respect level is lost. I don’t know what can be done to change the way the kids of today think or whose responsible to fix it other than the parents of these troubled souls, but something MUST be done.
I don’t have a problem reporting wrong doings of others that I see or hear bout which affect this community. It’s unfortunate that Bermudians are quick to gossip about things they hear of but wouldn’t report things they know of to the BPS or whomever.
WE as a concerned community need to stand together to eradicate this nonsense. And yes I believe in corporal punishment, cat o’nine tail would do some of these fools some good, and they would in turn let their friends know of the licks they got and it would in my opinion be a deterrent.
UM JUST SAYIN
You blamed the PLP when they were in power. Why not the OBA when they are in Power
Well maybe when S*** happen when a Black entity is in charge its mismanagement and incompetence but when S*** happens under a white entity S*** just happens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s funny how when the PLP was in power, all of the crime was their fault.
Now that the OBA is in power, suddenly it’s the parents fault and not the government’s.
I thought the OBA promised to “stop the shootings” and stamp out crime. If the PLP was in power, you people would be shooting off messages screaming for their heads. Now that the OBA is in power, all I can hear are crickets….
It be time to start kickin’ some 5am doors the f*** in!! Bring it Bwoy Blue!!!
Anyone committing Gun Crimes or Murder or Child Sex Abuse Crimes,once Convicted should be Locked Away for LIFE,(meaning LIFE with NO Parole) or Hung!
Scum like this needs to be removed from society!
Look all over Crime is everywhere in the world get over it !! It’s just the beginning wait on it!!
Finally, a realist!
James, you seem to like this violence and chaos. Are you involved in these activities?
shut the f*** up. You can’t be serious.@ hmmm.
I hope they traveled along Barnes Corner as there are cameras from every angle in that area.
A BMW too.
Nice car.
Wish I could afford one.
Work hard and save ya money.
Maybe I’m just in the wrong business.
Ah. We finally agree on something. If you want something, work hard and save your money. Don’t go looking for government handouts. Rely on yourself. Don’t make excuses. Take responsibility for your own actions and the impact your own actions have on your own economic condition.
If you want a house, or a car, or anything else, work hard amd earn it.
This is what you get when certain sectors of the community are excluded from opportunity. None of you clowns believe it. Mr. Dunkley knows – he and the OBA are obstructionist.
People are the same all over the world.
They’re driving around in a bmw. How are they “excluded from opportunity”? I’ve never owned a car as nice as that in my life.
Hellooooooo
The person driving the BMW was the VICTIM. Do you know anything about this man or his family? Well I do so stop making ASSUMPTIONS based on the car he drives. It’s not his fault you’re broke.
Yep, I know that. So what did san george mean when he said “certain sectors are excluded from opportunity”? What “certain sectors”? What “sector” does the bmw owner belong to? One of the sectors supposedly “excluded from opportunity”?
I’m not whining about being “broke”. Far from it. But I can’t stand people saying that a “certain sector” is “denied opportunity” when the story we’re reading says they’re little rich kids, even if they’ belong to a “certain sector”.
Got to blame somebody. Cause you know the violence only started after December 2012 and personal responsibility is an oxymoron in BDA.
When did the schools go back in?
dat a bmw?
the PLP did it…no the OBA did it….no idiots two misguided ignorant people on a bike did it. this has nothing to do with politics. Sick and tired of the political trolls who sit here and post something based on a political party.
#justdumb
Something is horribly wrong in Bermuda . The Public Bodies Reform Act is about to magnify , intensify and create a multitude of monstrous and unimaginable circumstances which this Island will in the end be incapable to properly deal with .
Only the strong will survive , both mentally and economically .
A word to the wise . Stop shooting at each other !
Well, if they started at Tee Street and ended up at South P, they probably drove through the Paget traffic lights. Those cameras should be able to pick up the license plate on the bike and, hopefully, some hi-res shots of the two on the bike.
Or am I dreaming/
You are dreaming
More than likely……’cause one would presume that the operators of the CCTV in Prospect actually saw the chase unfold at the two major CCTV installations one at Trimmingham Hill and the other at Paget stop lights….aside from what must have been calls from the public..
Firstly are the cameras working
Secondly are they being monitored if they are
Time for the National Security Minister to be honest with us about them
Its no way that incident happened and no witness on that length of road cant believe that seriously
I’m still trying to figure out why the driver of the car didn’t just put the pedal to the floor and then slam breaks on them or just slam breaks on a corner…then park his car on top of them. Bullets move faster than cars and I’d rather go with the option of seriously f***ing them up.
Ok Jason Statham. Someone’s been watching too much Fast and Furious!
Lol So you would try and outrun bullets? Slamming breaks while a BIKE is chasing you at high speed just seems like the smart thing to do. I’m not going to try and evade bullets for 6 miles, I’m surprised he made it that far without them catching up.
And where are the police? We have more police per square mile than anywhere in the world, most likely one of the more sophisticated surveillance systems in the world, but response time… not so much.
I’m waiting for our Minister of Security , Premier Micheal Dunkeley to face the nation and reassure us with comforting words such as this ,” Ladies and gentleman of Bermuda , as you know , and as I’ve repeatedly stated , that when seconds count , the Bermuda police are only a few minutes away . Thank you for once again listening to my voice …. Thank you, thank you !”
I think you are actually waiting for your meds and the lovely nurses up at MAWI to tuck you in for the night.
That was funny as hell,such a sad situation, only people shocked are those with their heads up the oba and rg b÷=%%s, I agree with those saying that it was a cocererted effort to hype crime during the plp tenure, and down play it now.
We the people deserve better.
Seriously though Rhonda we have to agree with the serious stance this government has taken towards crime ; we only have to look at how quickly and seemlessly they changed their Premier/leadership !
Like when the plp had to deceive us? I think the plp still hold that title, now can we leave politics out of this?
Unfortunately as the opposition , the OBA/UBP put politics front and center of all gun violence ! I’ve decided to support that position as the correct way going forward . Personally and until they convinced me that it was political , I never thought of it that way .
Tell me , was I bamboozled ?
So for the first time in the history of Bermuda a sitting Premier resigns under suspect circumstances and … Oh I get it !
Looking for people not wearing seat-belts, you know dangerous stuff like that. Gotta make that quota.
I must agree, “where are the police?”. If this “chase” started in Devonshire and end up in Southampton there had / should have been police along the route. I am sure that no-one was traveling at 20 m.p.h. and therefore the police should have intercepted this chase some miles prior to the shooting / crash.
BMW? Business must be good.
A third or forth hand almost twenty year old car cost less than your comment would suggest. So get a life and get real as**ole.
Just shows the lack of police presence on the roads. In 10km no police vehicles were on the road? I doubt if these vehicles were staying under 50 kph so the speed should have been evident. Did no one see or hear anything that looked out of the ordinary? It’s not like it was 4 in the morning.
A bike and a car driving like maniacs at 5.00pm? That’s pretty normal.
Come on people. Time for us to admit that this problem is more than we can handle. Our Police are not trained to deal with this type of violence. We need outside help!!! People who are not related to this one or friends with that one. Enough is enough. Some innocent person is going to get killed sooner or later. Bullets don’t have eyes.
Innocent people have been killed just not the “right” type of innocent people.
More ‘code language ‘ ?
Yep. Thinly-veiled racism.
That white man Gaglio was shot in the chest outside of his house a few years back after he hosted a poker game.
And guess what no massive outrage by whites as you would like to believe what would happen in the case.
Precedent has been set.
Confused, you’re right. Maybe Dawg the Bounty Hunter can be brought in (great exposure) to come round these hombre’s up, get the BTA to photoshop up some promotional materials…
“It’s too early to tell, we will learn more from when the doctors finish their examination.”
this has got to be the craziest statement I think I have ever read on this site,,, mercy mercy me,,,,
the people in the car where from somerset so the shooters are likely from town me say. what makes me smile is when people on talk about these wanna be gangsters, when most of these wanna be gangsters have no links to bring bullets or new guns in. Most of these guns come from long time smugglers and people that own businesses and multiple homes.
…But that’s none of my business!
From where I sit, the slight downturn in gun violence is simply due to the ringleaders being in jail, witness protection overseas or dead. As for violence or the lack there of being attributed to any political party, its an ignorant notion.
Was made to believe that guns are illegal, what up??
Agree with ‘Confused’. The BPS is trying its best but appear to be overwhelmed with the current situation for many reasons. Is it time for the Governor and the powers that be to bring in assistance to help get our island back on track? We don’t know who to trust anymore !
Some of the comments are disgusting… These are our people our young brothers hurting each other.killing each other… And some of you sound awful.. All we do is judge and blame… Smh…
When you hear of these things happening how do you feel?
Somebody must know something.
Position Avl. For immediate hire: Parents who can discipline, teach , care for and most importantly LOVE the children who are left helpless by their parent/parents.
PARENTS TODAY NEED TO STOP BEING FRIENDS WITH THEIR KIDS AND PARENT THEM.
STOP BLAMING POLITICAL PARTIES…MOST OF US KNOW SOMEONE WHO THIS IS HAPPENING TOO…BERMUDA IS NO THAT SMALL.
BUT WHEN THE CHILD(THEY HAVEN’T EARNED THE RIGHT TO BE CALLED AN ADULT) BRINGS HOME CASH, ELECTRONICS, IT’S ACCEPTABLE BY THE PARENTS KNOWING THE CHILD DOESN’T HAVE A LEGAL JOB.
WAKE UP!!!
Wow very sad I’m just glad that no 1 in the public got killed or hurt by these fools! Wth they think they r in a stunt movie!
The two bies were cricketers for sure!!!!!!!! They sped past my girl and I on Harrington sound road hooking!!!!!!
The report certainly had me wondering if gunman couture dictated all white after labour day, I notice cricket matches have been canceled for today due to “security concerns”, hmmmm.
The crickerters was the shooters? Or in d car
They wouldn’t just waste ammunition on a random car…….
That’s Bermuda. Hard on non-violent drug users, easy on ultra-violent criminals with multiple offences.
Indeed–give that man a cigar!
Indeed!! And the guns are getting through customs ,,my oh my !!wake up
…and who are exempt from customs? former and present MP’s and their families.
I believe our laws need changing to deter these types of crimes
There should be clauses that gives time for each bullet fired and time spent should be consecutive with no parole and we should hold the judges accountable to it.
To often these crimes are not subject to long sentences to deter the accused.
I agree a deterrent is needed and our laws need up dating. But Westgate is not ‘hard-time’, ask anyone that has done time there. It is an inconvenience to them. They still have all the comforts of home, and in some cases, more.
These guys are crazy they could have killed someone innocent like a runner or walker or some kid bullets dont have eyes and they stray its not an accurate shot coming from a bike please stop the the gun shootings
Or a horse walking along southshore….just sayin
No such luck.
Call Interpol, they just happen to be up the hill from the crash site this week. Good thing it’s Interpol and not an Americas Cup selection committee – When are we going to get serious about coming down hard on these punks who are certainly harming everybodies lively hoods?
I’ve been up thinking about this mess! How pokey bermudians are no 1 snapped a pic on there cell phone! Gosh, I really hope bps catches thses fools!!!!! N they had on WHITE! Wth wears white to shoot!
A cricketer.. both in the car where cricketers and had jus finish playing @St. Davids..
well if thats the case we should have someone in custody very soon if not already huh ?
every one who played cricket yesterday should be in jail until SOMEONE spills the beans …so …own up or get snitched on …simple passa.
Call bps, how u know it was cricketers in d car……ooooo that’s why they shut down the cricket game today!!!!
where is the island wide CCTV cameras??? Just asking, we have a right to know if it is working or not in the outer areas of Hamilton as promised by August, tax’s payer money has gone into this key tool to help prevent and capture this act of Violence. Postponing game for these fools in not the answer. We can’t and should not live in fear, they are the ones that should be living in fear, with the police kicking down there door.
That’s the milk man 4 u OBA’s leader!
ok well after they kick down your door at 4 in the morning then realize you are not the one, i hope their apologies of sorry sir as they scramble away will be suffice for your time and property.
The police should be kicking down doors. They know who is involved. Make their lives miserable.
@D Says and after the shooting, they peel off somewhere and then change their clothes and continue their journey, blending in. I remember one witness stating that the men had a different colored shirts when they came down T Street, and some clothing was found in that through road that brings you to Devonshire Post Office.
Omg ya 4real
The shooter is a good son and was just about to turn his life around. His actions are the result of racism and he is not at fault. Such a good boy.
THE WILD WILD WEST
. This includes the said big fights earlier written about. The future of BDA, Oh Golly, BUT We have a Majority of Responsible Youth. Please MORE Youth & Adults be involved in righting life here. We are Our Brothers Keeper!
GUN VIOLENCE resurfaces – twice in a week
The day after PEACE DAY gun violence erupts in Bermuda
LAST EVENING
After the open brazenness of a car being chased from TEE STREET to the entrance of the FAIRMONT SOUTHAMPTON resort with guns firing, we no doubt have people who care not a hoot about the rule of law. The massive disrespect by many on motorbikes who regularly hit peoples wing mirrors and drive in the most dangerous and threatening of ways needs to be addressed. If we let this paradise slide into the ways of other countries we are in trouble. The RULE of LAW must be firmly established and justice applied equally to all.
What is BERMUDA’s plan for dealing with ISIS and aL-Qaeda sympathizers. Is the special branch of the Bermuda Police Force and other security services looking out for this possible threat?
This is sad but so true my brother…The mentality of some
“All grains of sand are secretly convinced they are mountains; each drop of rain, an airborne ocean; every mortal man, a benevolent God.”( A.L.Ray)
Tee-Street to there is 6 miles along the main road. Where were the police? Hopefully Warwick Camp has some footage.
what about the general traffic at that time of day ..?you can speed yeah , but not for ten miles straight, middle road up khyber pass over on warwick lane, down southshore…stop signs stoplights pedestrians crossing ..?/?? and no one saw nuffin? weird scenario but soon to be revealed i guess.
Being that the driver/victim of this incident more than likely knows who the attackers are, he should be held in custody once able to leave the hospital until he talks!!!! The time has long past for us to get really tough on ALL those that are involved in this type of behavior!!!! All of our well beings are at stake here unless we put an end to this madness!!!!!
Are you for real? You want to lock up the VICTIM? This has got to be the most ridiculous comment ever. First of all, he may not even know them. Secondly, you are ASSUMING that because he was shot at that he was a part of a certain lifestyle. FYI, many gun victims are targeted because of their RELATIVES.
I vividly recall a conversation with a dear friend of mine during the height of the gun murders. I asked him if he was afraid (due to where he lived) and he strongly stated that he wasn’t scared, because he wasn’t in any gangs and felt safe. Well, my friend was murdered shortly thereafter because the thugs couldn’t get to his brother so they killed him instead. Even the police stated that he wasn’t a gang member, but I already knew that. So shut your mouth with your idiotic comments!!!
@ self. This is how people from certain sectors of our society think. If you dress a certain way you are a gangster. Listen to certain music,you are a thug. Drive a certain brand of German car you are a drug dealer. Get shot at by unknown assailants, you are guilty of something and should be locked up.these people are out of touch with the rest of society and need to get real and stop trying to sound more intelligent than they really are. Or maybe this kind of stuff is a joke to them. Some of these comments speak volumes. Peace.
Well then maybe you should look at the social media pic/post put up by the intended targets (not the driver, but the passengers) just after the attack.
They don’t appear to be the innocent school boys that you want them to be.
But it is much easier to make it a race thing now isn’t it?
Thank you double D, just amazing how those types are so convenientley blind to certain things???
Umm…just ask ya boy in the BMW. Am pretty sure he knows who was shooting at him.
Thankfully their aim is off, not one shot hit the back glass? Was the driver planning on taking the chase up through the hotel property and couldn’t make the turn? Why did the shooters not stop and finish off the car occupants when the car came to a halt, out of ammo? How much did we pay for the cctv contract again? And that facial recognition/license identification technology boasted about recently?
Motorbikes should be made to have large, legible number plates front and back. For obvious reasons.
As if gunmen follow regulations.
Ok, you’re right. Let’s do nothing and wring our hands hoping it changes.
Or we can waste time and money (borrowed) to draft some more useless, ineffectual, rules, regulations and laws, to make the sheeple feel reassured something is being done.
Or we could take measures that cost almost nothing and would increase the chances of being able to identify motorbikes used in crime.
Criminals do, and will continue to steal bikes, remove/swap stolen license plates regardless of whether the license plates are the size of 1/2 sheets of ply, the current 6″x 3″ or whatever. Try another angle.
Currently it is imposdible to identify a bike even if caught on a hi def camera.
You seem hell bent on leaving it that way.
Take it easy creampie, you’ll burst a blood vessel.
How is it impossible, are you nuts? My old 5MP camera can make out a plate at over 60ft no problem. Giant license plates is not the answer. When that fails you will call for motorcycles to be banned next.
Time for the Minister and C
Smh what south shore is the new court street? Tourist bags got snatch and now a shooting! Who knows it probably was the same boys!
I call this a set up! Who in the wrold shoots in a trunk? Who wears white to shot ppl? So what we have bobbsey twin shooters now? And why no one saw this? Something dont add up… Fishy fishy fishy
Cricket players wear WHITE. The 20/20 match between Willow Cuts and St. David’s ended around 5.00 PM …connect the dots….“Due to advice regarding a heightened security risk, subsequent to recent incidents, the Cricket Lindos T20 and the BF&M U17 All-Star game, scheduled to take place on Sunday 28 September at Somerset Cricket Club, have both been postponed until further notice.”
Is just me but if I am driving a car, and sombody starts shooting at me.. and they stay behind. .. sorry but I am going to ram you and then run over you…then call the police…
You don’t know what you would do. People always say they would do this or do that, but I’m sure if a gunman was after you you’d be so scared you wouldn’t know what to do.
A taxi driver I knew was bragging about how if anybody tried to rob him, they would get licks from a stick he kept hidden by his seat. Unfortunately for him, some time later a thug pulled a knife on him and stole his money. I asked him why he didn’t pull his stick, and he said the crazed look in the guy’s eyes stopped him from doing it. He didn’t know if the guy was on drugs or just how far he was willing to go to get the money. Nobody can predict how they will react when faced with a threat on their life.
Time for the Minister and Commissioner of Police to explain to the public how this incident could cover such a long distance on our narrow roads, in broad daylight, apparently without the knowledge of the Bermuda Police Service!
Fortunately no one was killed, either in a collision or with a bullet.
Ain’t dat a “b- -ch”? And no-one saying a damn thing
Fortunately no-one were killed, either in a collision or by a stray bullet.
Here is a tip for the police. The assailants are GONE. LONG GONE. You can poke around in the bushes all you want. They aren’t hiding behind a cassava tree. It would have been easier to identify them when they were blazing across the island firing off shots. You know, those guys.
That’s right!
@ Tyler Stop being facetious, the shots were being fired just minutes before the car crashed, just above Horseshoe Bay. Now if the general public had been calling 911 about the 2 vehicle chase, the boys in blue might have gotten on the scene earlier. Shucks!
personally speaking (an admitted action/thriller movie enthusiast) Car beats wannabe gangstas on bike with gun every time
And who is to say where the first shot was fired.
Who is to say that only 3 shots were fired.
Could have happened prior to Tee Street, 1 shot.
Only the driver would know this whilst driving.
Food for thought.
Stay safe and slam on your breaks. Better to have to guys laying in the road behind you with a gun than saying hello to St. Peter.
Shalom.
Yup, it’s the wild wild west. All that is missing is the horses.
In other, but related, sporting news there will be no cricket today. The criminals win by default.
My thing is they can’t shoot! They aimed wrong!
I hear the gunmen weren’t after the driver, but his passengers. At least one of them was injured, but all except the driver ran from the car after impact.
The gunmen were said to be wearing white. Word is that those are painter’s coveralls which can easily be disposed of afterwards, along with any forensic evidence that might have collected on them.
Come on people, the police were probably all sitting outside the ‘Beach’ waiting for a fight to break out between girls- or maybe they were all at BAA breaking up that huge fight! or outside Jamaican Grill getting their jerk chicken on- who knows where they were
I don’t see why we can’t blame the Minister of Security because he took the credit when the shootings had stopped so why can’t he get criticized when they start up again? can’t have it both ways-
maybe it happened close to the hotel to make the guests feel at home- other places are use to shootings, people, lets stop treating them like they have to be sheltered and every little thing is going to send them running from Bermuda – tourists keep returning to Jamaica even though they are known for their crime- but we don’t need any negative publicity
And I guess the camras at the paget lights we’re not working, as when I drove by after lunch they had techs on a high lift working on em… and they are the only camras between T st and south P…
As I understand it, those cameras are not “real time” or wired directly to Police HQ. They have their own hard drive that continuously record. For the Police to have access to the data, someone has to remove and replace the recorder. That’s what you saw.
It’s cameras at the bottom of Trimingham roundabout in case they took harbor road to getaway, at the top of the hill roundabout, again at Paget stop lights. Also if your vehicle is not registered that thing picks it up from satelite dosen’t it?
I hope it’s not over a lost game or something.. That’s a long way for for the dukes of hazzards
Saw a schoolchild with a cell phone. Couldn’t have been no more than 6 or 7. That means a monthly bill. Is it over indulgence or protection? Parenting has a lot to do with with how a child develops but the root cause of these ills with our young black males started a long long long time ago. The actions of these young men is a form of self loathing behavior. Time to face the elephant in the room. Why only black on black violence with our young males? Any white gang activity? Easy to say bad parenting etc but I know of some parents who have tried their level best even with resources and a support system and the child still runs into trouble. These are symptoms of a bigger issue. People are happy to deal with the ground level solutions of just locking them up etc but let’s deal with the issues head on that most Bdians put their head in the sand to with their NIMBY attitudes! All these comments here why? Because it was near South P? Would it be the same if it happened on Court St? Umm no. All we think about is the tourist. If we don’t clean up own back yard, how can we be a healthy society for our tourists? It starts with not closing down organizations like the Center of Abuse, etc. we need to fix US first! Like the airplane demonstration of putting the oxygen mask on yourself first before you help others in emergency situations. This elephant just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
Actually if you read the past articles on Bernews regarding shootings they all have roughly the same number of comments.
But keep on fabricating conspiracy theories all you want my friend. Everyone is out to get you!
What about TCD scanners that detect if an automobile is off the road and surely they can get a licence # of the bike from scanner