Website Launches Offering Bullet Proof Vests
A new Bermuda website has launched selling bullet proof vests, which range in price from $600 to $800. The link for the website — called IslandArmor — was originally left as a comment on the Bernews article on the recent Woody’s firearm incident, and prompted discussion whether selling the vests in Bermuda was appropriate or not.
After checking whether this service was legal, we asked the Company for more information about themselves and their services and they explained that they believe that in these “unfortunate times where citizens fear for their lives” they should be able to protect themselves against those that aim to do harm.
They declined to identify themselves, saying they would like to remain anonymous. They said their inspiration for starting this business was their experience of being a bystander at a shooting, and said their products are not intended to take lives, but to save them.
Their reply to our questions is printed verbatim below:
Island Armor believes that in these unfortunate times, where citizens fear for their lives one way or another, they should be able to protect themselves against those that aim to do harm. We are giving citizens an opportunity for that protection.
There are those that may criticize us but if we have to save the life of one gang member in order to save the lives of ten innocent bystanders we consider our service ethical. To those that may say we are encouraging gang activities, it has been happening before Island Armor and will continue to happen after Island Armor.
We aim to give assurance to those such as security personnel, taxi drivers, law enforcement and other professions were they may feel endangered while doing there job. Our motto is ” I’d rather have one and not need it, than need it and not have one” we at Island Armor stand by this.
To answer some of your questions, first off we would like to remain anonymous. We have only recently setup and as yet don’t have a headquarters or an office space. We have reached out to the Bermuda Police Service as notice of our company. We can not be 100% accurate as to who we sell our products to, but our products are not intended to take lives, but to save them.
We can not guarantee that they won’t fall into the hands of criminals, but if someone feels their life is threaten they should be able to protect them self. In regards to sales and other business info we would like to keep that confidential.
Our inspiration for starting this business is the experience of being a bystander at a shooting and choosing to not let that stop us from going out. We will not let circumstances control us, we will control circumstances.
Update 9.02pm: The website appears to have been taken down.
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Great now were supposed to be protected targets for wild hooligan gun men, “oh no the criminals are shooting at people” solution.. lets make the people be protected punching bags????Here buy a $600 bullet proof vest be a protected target….never mind that people aim for the head…what we should be advocating is that US THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS be allowed to carry and have a firearm, there can be some stipulations set in place, however I can f!@#$%g bet you my bottom dollar that these criminals would think twice before
1) Running in somebody’s house brandishing their gun causing fear sexually assaulting people
2) Run up on a group of people and try to open fire
3) Go up in a neighborhood firing their weapon at somebody’s child
4) Feeling comfortable that they are the only one with a weapon that can kill
5) Going into a store to commit a robbery knowing that there is a strong chance that they can get shot
6) Thinking that they can just start trouble with anybody because they are not in their gang
7) Firing their weapon without the possibility of knowing that someone can fire back
Cheekums bi ..in a world where 1 person has super powers everybody has to respect and fear that person , but in a world where everybody has super powers they a mutual respect has to be given
I almost want to agree with you but at the same time it opens a door for so many other things to happen. For instance, let’s say you have a registered firearm, thief or gunman breaks in and finds it, your entire family is killed with your weapon, no suspects, no leads. Most likely someone will want to open a firinng range, well there’s everyone and their aunties excuse for having gunpowder residue on…everything. Children kill other children or even themselves out of general curiosity and adult negligence all the time in the US, keep it out of reach of children and it won’t be where you need it if the time comes. Like I’ve said before bulletproof vest are only good for so much, just because it says bulletproof doesn’t mean you turn into ironman after putting it on. The vest is not bulletproof, the 12×10 plate in the vest over your heart (sometimes front and back) is, to a degree. The highest level plate will probably stop a few rounds of small arms fire before its pretty well ineffective. I’m sorry but if I’m shooting you in your heart and you aren’t going down, I’m shooting you somewhere else. Are you going to walk around like a super soldier all day decked out in full kevlar armour? Now a level 3 ballistics plate against something like a 7.62mm round fired from some larger assault rifles like the AK-47 and SLR, well after one round that ballistics plate is going to have a bad day and your $700 vest turns into an expensive bandage to keep your internal organs in until the paramedics arrive. Take a look at some of the war vets from Iraq, some have lost limbs to roadside bombs and others have lost limbs from being hit by these rounds, that is the level of damage they inflict. By providing this body armour and making it available to just about anyone, you are enabling these thugs, you’re giving them the chance to be like 50cent, have a cool story, and get out there to do it again. So if these thugs actually do have weapons that fire 7.62mm rounds and body armour, what chance do the police stand with 9mm and 5.56mm rounds since I believe 7.62s aren’t used by law enforcement because of the damage they inflict. I belive there’s more cons to this than pros. Nobody is going to work construction wearing a bulletproof vest and nobody is going to wear one under their suit and tie (well maybe some that sit in the house), so who are you really protecting?
…and besides, we don’t need this to become another america. Deal with the source of the problem (the local un-culture) not enable and continue it. The same comments about the attitude of people with vests also applies to people with guns. Studies show people with guns develop an attitude of invincibility…and end up shot dead.
I don’t have to worry about wearing a bullet-proof vest here in the U.S. Nor do I fear guns, in proportion to what you guys are dealing with now in Bermuda, given your population #. You need to get a serious grip: bring in cops who don’t know ANY residents, and won’t be afraid to approach “Nora’s son”, or “Jimmy’s nephew”, or someone with an actual gun, and are trained in getting the job done. These wannabees will be whimpering like babies if they get a taste of a REAL cop, and their fellow wannabees may decide that protecting streets they never owned anyway is best left to Monopoly games!
I disagree with this business venture but at the same time, i want to say “good idea” …
Why do you disagree if you think its a good idea? Can you please explain further? Personally I’d rather stay home than to venture to where the gangsters hang with my $800 vest on. I agree that it would be a great investment for security and police officers.
some clown tryna capitalize on a bad situation. He should be monitored closely, his product is for gang idiots that want to ‘fly low’ on the radar and purchase items ananimously. I can’t see a security company buying from him when they could buy direct.
Don’t we all try to capitalize on bad situations?
And your claim that this is for gang idiots that want to fly low on the radar is an opinion cited without any facts to back it up. Show me proof that this is true, not speculation, and I would back that claim.
You dont have to like or support all businesses but they can still be a good idea (i.e. Casinos, Strip Clubs, etc). My statement only reflects my personal opionion but doesnt take away from this business persons idea.
They do have a target market and they will have people buying them. Athough there prices are extreme and you can get one much cheaper on-line.
Lol you save money on plastic cups and plates and buying bulk toilet paper, when looking for something to stop a piece of copper flying faster than the speed of sound you don’t go for cheap.
When i mean cheap, i should have said “the same product and type of vest” at a much cheaper price. Like everything else in Bermuda, its marked up over 100%. Check the source in the RG blog. I do agree, you shouldnt go “cheap product”.
I heard a rumour that a newly paroled Bermudian who was convicted of armed bank robbery in LA is the proprietor. I am always so delighted when former armed bank robbers are able to turn their lives around for the better.
Hey Victor i am not sure who ya talking about bye but did he live down de road across from the super rat,vere another bermudian lived in LA,MAYBE THEY VERE IN THIS TOGETHER,VAT YOU THINK.cause he is gone quiet again all of a sudden an bye he only makes noise ven ve talk about him.
just maybe ve can vake de sleeping giant or so thats what his shadow makes him dink he is.
You really want guns legal here….REALLY!!!
@CHEEKUMS BI – what you are proposing i.e. (the right to bare arms) would be the end of peaceful Bermuda altogether. You don’t have to go any further than looking at our brothers to the west to see what legalising gun posession would do to a country. Your logic that allowing the general public to possess firearms would act as a deterant to criminals is flawed and has been disproven time and time again.
An instinctual and therefore understandable reaction to a situation in which one feels powerless to do anything but in fact has proven to have the opposite effect on criminals – encouraging them to possess more weapons and more powerful weapons to counter the threat from someone else with a gun.
Well George lets see how you will feel if your house is broken into and female occupants either visiting or your spouse or your children or your mother, is held at bay and forced to either do a sexual act or they are sexually assaulted , , or get robbed at gun point, be in a place where your life is at danger by some fool with a gun, then let me hear what you have to say after experiencing that, it not flawed at all, in fact a person now who has a gun feels that hey “IM THE ONLY ONE WITH THIS GUN” and there is only like 2 or 5 in the island and I have one, so the chances of me getting shot is very slim so I can commit my crime that I am planning without factoring in what can possibly happen to me…because “HEY I GOTTA A GUN”…. of all the crimes that has happened in neighborhoods and houses and public areas..you mean to tell me that if good citizens had a gun that the criminals would STILL come there, lol remember they are cowards and a coward would shoot you faster than a real fighter would fist fight you.
Imagine your at a school with your children and some gang banging scum start shooting around your child….would you rather RUN for cover in fear of your life and not knowing where your child is..or would you rather protect yourself and fire the hell back with something they did not anticipate happening. Trust me 100% of people would tell you that if they had guns on them no way would people be so bold to do what they do. And more than half these crimes would not have happened.
Let some of these guys factor in that if they go to a neighbor hood that there is a STRONG possibility that the whole hood or at least half of the hood has guns AND COULD SHOOT THEM BEFORE THEY CAN EXIT THE HOOD you can bet you’re a$$ that they will stay put and not even consider their lil drive by.
@CHEEKUMS BI I’ll let the statistics speak for themselves. Compare US gun crime with Canada gun crime. i.e. you can own a gun pretty easily in most US states in Canada you can not.
As far as the scenarios you come up with as justification for owning a gun as individual defense – sorry if you have been a victim to any one of these but the reality is they are very few and far between in countries where gun possession is illegal but very common in places where gun possession is legal e.g. Colorado mass murders – Columbine, Aurora. Again I’ll let the statistics and not fear support my ‘ignorant’ argument!
“A peaceful bermuda altogether”was flushed down the toilet a long time ago #wayadumb
When we have shooting on front Street, then I’ll buy a vest. Untill then I still think I’m safe on this island.
Good Idea! I would get one.
I totally agree with Cheekums Bi… Let the people defend themselves. GUNS SHOULD BE LEGAL. IF THE LAW DONT MAKE PROVISIONS FOR THAT, THE PEOPLE WILL DO IT ANYWAY.
How long must people sit/stand by feeling helpless?
Garunteed they wont try shooting at people like they are now if they know your armed!!!
Legal guns means to go and do a kill is to risk your life…cause more than likely you will get put the hellllllll dowwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn. point blank…
Oh watch out for them hollow tips….
THATS WHAT IM SAYING,im got a lience to carry a gun and to have one at home you really think these criminals want to break into my house, want to start trouble?? and last time i checked good citizens of Bermuda out number bad citizens!!!
@Jamudian n @CHEEKUMS BI I C the point ur tryin 2 make but I agree with @George the US is a perfect example . lettin every1 own guns is not goin 2 deter crime but only escalate it. as u stated if u have a gun will they still do their crimes the answer is yes but instead of 1 motorcycle there will be several. also the general public of bermuda run 4m the bermuda regiment n u believe they’re ready 4 that box. example say a gang member breaks in ur house n u have a gun n shoot him. now that gang want retaliation n now they kno u have a gun so they show in numbers now ur whole family is in danger. as a bermudian who has lived stateside 4 over a decade I’ve seen things that still haven’t occurred in bermuda yet so my hope 4 her isnt lost. bein out in public n 2 groups start shootin with no regards. Bermuda needs 2 look home 4 her help n by home I mean the UK. As that false photo of a bermuda police car being shot up was actually theirs. so they aiming at them yet they still all don’t carry guns. Step Up Bermuda
This business needs to be closely monitored.
@ la la dy…. closely monitored for what?!? they are not doing anything illegal. Bermuda is becoming a police state if u want to be monitoring peoples business.
We should be allowed to protect ourselves. We cant even have simple Pepper Spray to use to protect ourselves.
@ Boom …so yur expecting to get shot at? So I can assume you put yourself in situations to get shot at? Do you hang out with people that get shot at. Are you involved in activity that will lead to getting shot at? Do you get it now dummy?
Innocent people have been shot at and killed already dummy.
Some people live in gang territories who are not involved in gangs. They should have the choice on how they can protect themselves. Its not a matter of what i ‘expect’, anything can happen to anyone. Look at what happened at the south side cinema shooting.
While i disagree with this venture (and thought it was illegal anyway), your argument here is in my opinion misguided.
I dont expect my house to catch fire, but i have a fire extinguisher anyway. I dont expect to get into an accident, but i still use my seat belt and am happy for having an airbag.
What we need are armored cards, clothes and more weapons. I agree.
I think the people that buy them should be closely monitored. Honestly, not sure if its feasable, but they should be required to have some sort of registration and tracking device, that way if one is involved in a shooting you at least have a lead.
It is truly a sad Day when innocent citzens of Bermuda have to walk around in $800 bullet proof vests to avoid being harmed by a bunch of wanna-be gangsters aka Bullies aka Terrorist,that have no value for LIFE! My only fear is that this will simply supply vest for the same Terrorist that we are trying to protect ourselves from.
We need a police squad armed and ready on our streets. There are only 9 parishes each unit needs to be assigned to a parish and police it. Its going to take a village to correct this Beast. Families need to STOP allowing these Demons to grow and breed in their homes. These animals should have to wear ankle bracelets if You look like a rat and smell like a rat you will be treated like a RAT!
People we know who these DEMONS are, why arent they harrassed daily why do we allow them to build fear in our hearts.
I could not agree more. However, I do think the police(some)are part of the problem!
How is it that some police men and women stand around and let these punks get away with what they do? I work at club on front street and to see how many of these boys act with no fear of the police 15 feet away from them is shocking! The cursing and threatening sometimes of the police themselves is enough to make you wonder whose in charge here. The Police Service must go and The Police Force must be returned! It is at a point when some of the big boys in the Police Service must step aside and let someone with a harder approach step in.
It takes a special person to run into a burning building to save a life, not a job that just anybody can do. All it takes a person with no criminal record to be a cop (in Bermuda) not so special
this is just another way of bandaiding the problem the problem needs to be solved.
Meant to say that – the selling of these so called bullet proof vests is a slippery slope and therefore should be banned in Bermuda. This is in fact capitalism gone awry. Sell a gun to deter criminals, sell a bullet proof vest to protect yourself when the criminals get ahold of those same guns, sell a more powerful gun to be able to shoot the criminals who now possess the bullet proof vests and on and on. The only losers are the general public – when fear itself is used to sell guns and bullet proff vests we have a problem. Lets hope we learn from the US and do go down the same road!
don’t go down the same road!
so just walk blindly and pay no heed to the obvious dangers that is coming to our doorstep, George I don’t wish no harm on you however your speaking from a very ignorant position, your advising us not to protect ourselves, well I pray that you never have to experience what most people experience, and if your life is threatened by some punk with a 22 caliber pistol I know that you would feel better with a 45 in your hand pointing at his face, or would you rather sing “kum bi ya my Lord” and “Change is gonna come” while your being pistol whipped and robbed
I think of the recent incident at woodys and think to myself,that not only would more guns now begin to surface,the culprits will feel alot more safer just by bing siuted up with the iron clad protection,so now comes the movie era and the sicko’s that we see in other juristictions playing Rambo.dont you think the police have enough to do then to be put in position for all out war.
Bermuda get your head out of the sand,the more we help this industry to become secure the more we fall victim to what is up ahead,if there are those that are deemed to be in need of these vest,it has alreadybeen provided to them through our police department,oh and yeah just street people know this so dont tell know one because you damn Bermudians like to gossip and for the record it would be interesting to see the wholesale price these items are so when we look at the retail price,we would really know if someone is to make a buck or really concerned about the present state of affiars.
I look at life in the same way I was taught,show me your company and I will tell you who you are and yes I do believe sometimes bad things happen to good people but I still choose to believe that it was appointed unto me to come into this world and there is also a time for me to depart,so death is not something we can avoid,it is how we leave that really makes the difference.
I am not in support of these items being allowed to be sold on our shores or even bought overseas by private individuals for their own personal use,because the next thing will be the right to own a gun in your own home,say what you will we have no other choice to accept one without the other,so I choose not to choose any of them.
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The WHOIS is bogus. 08809 is Clinton Township, NJ and Cloverdale Close doesn’t actually exist. The TOS is interesting, though:
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“But how can they call on Him to save them unless they believe in Him? And how can they believe in Him if they have never heard about Him? And how can they hear about Him unless someone tells them? Romans 10 vs 14
Come on Pastors and Congregations – get out from behind the doors and get to teaching – not preaching.
and
Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land . 2 Chronicles 7 vs 14. This is for all of us from the Governor, Premier on down…. REPENT!!!!!!!!
There are none who are faultless!
They dont need to repent,this is a choice and a God given one,people will be people the world over and the truth of the matter the Bible gives us choices and we can not take that away but remember ther are consequences to all of our choices good or bad and regardless of the choice we are all covered under the precious Blood of Jesus and His righteousness,so even if they are dumb to the fact,even the sins they commit now is covered and to ask the preacher to come out of the pulpit to go down into the streets is not really a bad thing but what happens to the flock,it is our responsibility to reach a dying world who knows not the way,we are the light of the world and we ought to show it,so hint hint,we just did and I did not have to knock on not one door but enter the entire global world space throught technology on this computer and reach far greater numbers then I could have ever done on my own,so lets not take credit for that but be thankful to the management and staff and owners of Bernews that affords us this right,please dont take this media for granted as there are those in other parts of the world who are being murdered and tortured for the very same religous view points that we have,some for just saying the name Jesus or Worshipping Jesus, could you imagine,NO YOU CANT so dont even begin to try because I COULD NOT and none of us that dont live in these conditions could not appreciate the price some have to pay just to say the name of JESUS.sinners will do what sinners will do,what about us the Blood wash church,are we doing what we are suppose to be doing and our only goal is to be a light in darkness.if I were to use a scripture to support what I have said I would clearly quote that the harvest is ripe but the laboresr are few and God knew this before time was and knew the day would come that people like you and I would be concerned about the prsent state of affairs and made it possible that we would live in a day that WE can reach more people then our forefathers,so I say to the preachers and Pastors you waist to much time going to the hospitals to visit the sick and the prisons to visit the prisoners and all of this other stuff that most do for notariaty any way,back up and go in your prayer closets and dont come out til God sends you and then deliver to the people of God the mandate that God gives you and that is how our fore fathers got the job done,preachers and pastors are to equipt us to be the foot soldiers in the army and carry out the commands to see that we reach a dying nation and a people in need of a Saviour.
The bottom line to all these social problems is money. In the late 70′s and 80′s the USA was bombarded by drug lords. Some of which considered themselves untouchable because their money bought judges, policemen, and even DEA agents. What is going on in Bermuda is the same business but on a much smaller scale. The USA took out the head of these organizations like Pablo Escobar, Carlos Lehder, Jose Gacha and the Ochoa family the likes of which resulted in the formation of the Medellin cartel. These people where highly influential with the use of fear and money but they did fall. How? People got tired of living in fear and fought back. This by no means solved the US drug imports, but the growth of fear from organized crime was brought to it’s knees. Bermuda’s drug/gang related issues is a joke in comparison. One drug transaction for a cartel family would equal to all of the drug transactions in Bermuda for a year. So too are the comparison of threats and fears projected by these want-to-be thugs…you should not fear the snake but only the head..remove its head and it is harmless…Bermuda needs to get tired of living in fear then put the right tools into place for removing a few heads. If a cartel size issue can be controled then a few want-to-be’s should not be more than a weekend rat killing like back in the old days.
I dont believe that this is an answer to the problem…..It seems to me that someone wishes to capitalize on the recent surge in gun Violence. The only persons I can Imagine wanting to purchase protective vests are those who are already involved in the Gun Voiolence…Bad Idea it will only make things worse as violence has become so normal that with provisioins like this it can only get worse. Not a good Message to send to those committing gun related crimes..
Bullet proof vests will only encourage the shooter to have better aim and shoot for the head..so in that case a vest would be futile and a waste of money.
Maybe the armour used in the medieval times might be a better idea!!
The sale of these items are not illegal and I can’t see where Customs/Bermuda Government can legally prevent an importer from bringing them into the Island.
Well you know us onions we have to do a little research,thank God for this puter we call tech something,well the retail price for the same vest state side is $279.00 so if that be retail how much that bye is getting dem wholesale an de bye dont have a store,so if he get it cheaper by the dozen an already have back orders for each individual gang,they already chinging up some change,bye i recon that they have cleared 20 grand just in their introduction to the gang population,so next vill be de taxi drivers,but drivers seriously you vill need the head peace to because your sitting all the time driving and dont want them to aim at the head,but picture it,this will really fit in because Bermudians all walk around all day with the haed down texting anyway,so da nut paying attention to de screen and so to have us driving around in a cab will a robot of iron clad would be awesome and I thought watching de Jetson as a child was stupid,but those byes had a plan vay bac ven an knew this day vould come bye um glad I still use my V’S and dont get propper like de rest of the Virl and loose out on some life lessons.Vell der you have it from pro fess er i N sty
Wow!!!!
Read some good crap today.
Can’t believe people are actually engaging in this.
crappiest comment thus far^^^^^
@Terry..can’t believe you are reading it!! LOL
Maybe crapping in the bullet proof vest would be a deterrent to the shooter, especially if one has a diet of junk food, elephant beers and weed. LOL
Sorry, don’t follow.
All by design.
I’m buying myself a ballistics face mask because being shot in the face with bulletproof armour sounds like it would feel awesome…
Licensed local Security companies have been supplying BP vests as a bonafide business which has not been publicised. Now the flood gates get opened. I dont have much for Cayman, however they have laws in place making it illegal to possess BP vest unless you are licensed to own one(or supply them). This is just an enteprenuer capitalising on the bad situation here.
Majority of these comments are really making me laugh. Do you really think locals are gonna walk around wearing bullet proof vests on a regular? Think about it. Majority of people you’ll see buying them are the criminals themselves for protection. And to the discussion about legalizing guns…are you being serious
yeah that’s just what Bermuda needs. More guns on the island. Shoot back at the criminals, start a whole war. That’s really gonna make everything better and safer for the whole island. In case you haven’t noticed, we’re trying to bring the crime rate DOWN. Not start a whole war where one person shoots and the other starts shooting back. If you legalize guns then some ignorant people could buy them & sell them to the criminals. The gun can be registered in the persons name but they could easily say their gun was stolen. Think about it. If you wanna legalize anything then let it be marijuana! A guaranteed decrease in crime rates. Drug dealers would go out of business, police would actually focus on the bigger issues like GUNS & SHOOTINGS instead of worrying about who’s carrying around a plant in their pocket. Alcohol & tobacco are health issues that kill thousands every year yet they’re both legal. But let me just reiterate, bullet proof vests won’t decrease the crime rates, and certainly not legalizing guns.
a decent young bie
couldn’t agree with u more on everything but the marijuana. my opinion is different on that based on what I’ve seen but as far as the gun control n bullet proof vest so true
@ decent young bie legalizing weed will not stop people from being a criminal, a criminal will just sell the next best thing …crack..or heroine, or coke…what’s your solution legalize that as well?? You cannot tell me that you do not live in fear that there is a possibility that you could get shot or that your house can get broken into, and if you say you don’t then your ignorant to the reality that your life can be taken by some idiot with a gun.
That fear is a psychology that has taken affect in Bermuda so much so that people are afraid to even testify in court for fear of getting shot. Do the criminals fear you…no.. who do they fear..the police because they know the police can shoot and kill and are trained to kill, and lock their butts away for a long time.
But us the good decent citizens(not the drug abusers) the criminal have no fear of us and we are looked at as collateral and stupid targets that might get in the way of their bullets as the look for their original target. Now let the criminals know that everybody can be holding a gun or in possession of a gun, how many do you think would come and try to be a “BUD MON” and fire at people.
That fear psychology will be portrayed right back on them, and that will help to cease their wicked ways,..but we can always advocate no guns and say no to drugs slogans and no to killing our own people and the only people you have marching with you …is you…but those criminals will continue killing and selling drugs…
Okay I was just making a statement that legalizing marijuana would be a better solution than legalizing a lethal weapon. My main point was that the worst possible thing to do is legalize guns. Have you really convinced yourself that bringing more guns into the island will make everything better? No, just have one criminal shooting and then another person shooting back because they have a gun as well. Think about it, if guns are legalized and you have one while your out somewhere & someone starts shooting are you really gonna start firing back at them amongst other innocent people? What would that solve, really. Especially since bullet proof vests are available that would make them even more fearless.
& to tell you the truth I don’t live in fear. If God says its my time to go then so be it, if not then he’ll spare my life to say hes not finished with me yet. If you have a child (prime example my two younger brothers) that live with you are you really gonna keep a gun in your house to promote that having one is a good thing? Yeah more guns is just what this island needs to make everything better. In case you haven’t noticed we’re trying to get RID of them, not promote them. More guns means more people can have them which means more CRIMINALS have them.
Like you just said, those criminals will continue killing. You think by everyone having a gun will make these guys stop? No, just make them more sneaky in what they do. In case you haven’t noticed these guys have no fear and don’t care. They’re targeting other gang members who possibly have guns themselves so what makes you think they would stop just because innocent citizens have one? That would just add to the growing problem.
you really must have issues if you think bullet proof vests and legal guns will make everything better…smh. these guys are already fearless and a bullet proof vest for them to buy will promote more violence…all we need now is to legalize guns then Bermuda would be a perfect paradise yet again…good thinking
If dis she is not illeagle — y d f do u wanna remain anonymous ?
Because the last thing any of us need is some crew running up on him and taking his stock. No offense but there’s a few people on here only looking at this from one viewpoint.
U BIES NEED SOME A$$
The sad part in all this is the government (past and present) has failed to educate an island of a mere 60,000 people. This is where the problem starts and until this is addressed we have no hope for the future of Bermuda. Even if it means all foreign teachers must be brought in and held accountable for the progress of every kid. If a kid falls behind he loses his/her summer vacations in order to catch up..etc
@yourjoking: Now I don’t have much for the PLP, but how is it the government’s responsibility to teach a child that shooting at someone is wrong??
That responsibility lies with parents and family. Always has – always will be!
One of the biggest problem I see in this country is that of idiots becoming parents and raising bigger idiots!
Solve that problem and you will solve lots of other problems
Yes..your right….but if we now teach those kid to read and write and some morals and ethic…they will become better than their parents..and be hireable and not have to resort to other ways of making money..We are locked in a cycle where the parents have been poorly educated and can only take their kids so far….like I said we are only 60,000 plus….it takes a village to raise a child…Bermuda is small enough and yes..rich enough to provide kids with everything they need….we should be showing the world how it is done..not looking to the US and UK at broken models.
—- N —- Y U KEEP WITHDRAWN YA LAME NAMES FROM BEING ASSOSIATED WITH ISLAND ARMOUR?
what you talkin bout Willis?
So, their inspiration for this high-priced life-saving fashion was inspired by “being a bystander at a shooting”. Interesting. Considering how hilarious some of the commentary is here, may I ask if they come in a variety of colours? Does one size fit all or are the available in all sizes, including fuller figure? Different designs perhaps? But I will never know the answers to these questions since there is a message on the website stating that “Contrary to the sensational article that appeared in the Sept. 04, 2012 Royal Gazzette we have not sold anything at Islandarmor this website was intended to be a demo to pitch the idea of a Body Armor supplier in bermuda due to multiple misunderstandings in management this has resulted in extreme media attention, a face mask be for real, due to the public response and speculation this idea is closed forever.” Too bad. I was looking forward to wearing one in zebra print with red leather trim!
Can I get one plp green?
So you mean to tell me….. i can buy a bullet proof vest and face armor legally?.. say to protect myself from idiots who are wrecklessly brandishing illegal weapons?
But let me get caught with a lobster off season or a slingshot and i am guaranteed a hefty fine or time behind bars.
hhhmmm….. something doesnt add up
lobsters off season omg man you should be locked away for that how dare you
word!!
The site seems to have been taken down…from the site now “Contrary to the sensational article that appeared in the Sept. 04, 2012 Royal Gazzette we have not sold anything at Islandarmor this website was intended to be a demo to pitch the idea of a Body Armor supplier in bermuda due to multiple misunderstandings in management this has resulted in extreme media attention, a face mask be for real, due to the public response and speculation this idea is closed forever.”
@Malachi..I think we all can agree with you about the parents.
But as long as you have girls and women who won’t say No, then there will be
women who have children for multiple men and vice versa.
Self pride, respect and a value of life seems to be a thing of the past..
If more parents acted responsibly and not like their children’s friends, then perhaps these things wouldn’t happen.
But it’s the same old story, spare the rod, spoil the child..it happened before you and I were born and unfortunately it will continue to happen!
There will always be good and evil in this world, but it is amplified in Bermuda as it is such a tight knit and small community.
@ Cheekums Bi”: are you Mungo Jumbodong’s alter ego? You both seem to be spouting the same rhetoric.
IMHO, Bermuda should NEVER, ever legalize guns. The only folks who should be allowed to carry them legally are the BPS. That way, anyone with a gun is automatically a criminal and/or gang member and should be charged and sentenced accordingly.
I have never understood the rational of bullet-proof vests for ordinary citizens. Are you going to wear one every day, like uniform, on the off-chance that you get shot at? And if you are not going to wear it daily, then what is the point of purchasing one. Unless you are clairvoyant, the day you leave your vest off, could just be the day you get shot.
Naaah! The clues to this are in this “I heard a rumour that a newly paroled Bermudian who was convicted of armed bank robbery in LA is the proprietor.” (thanks @ Victor) and “Your use of this site shall be governed in all respects by the laws of the state of California, U.S.A., without regard to choice of law provisions, and not by the 1980 U.N. Convention on contracts for the international sale of goods. You agree that jurisdiction over and venue in any legal proceeding directly or indirectly arising out of or relating to this site (including but not limited to the purchase of Islandarmor.com products) shall be in the state or federal courts located in Los Angeles County, California.” (thanks @ .am).
Playing both ends against the middle for sure!! And all to make a lousy buck off the backs of terrorized Bermudians – as if enough money hasn’t been made already.
well Pastor Syl Hayward Jesus armed his disciples armed with weapons to look after him while he was in the garden praying, and one chopped of the ear of a guard, and when Jesus saw they was out numbered he wisely said he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword…..nevertheless Jesus told his men his disciples to bare arms, so pastor even Jesus had enough sense to have his people bare arms,and have the common sense to know when to put down those weapons.
I have the solution for all of this. The Bermuda Government should issue me, and me alone a gun, something akin to an AK-47. I will have this island cleaned up in no time. There will be NO crime, and the population would be down to a manageable level.
Barring that, the Bermuda Government should bring in 1000 JDF solders, they will live in a compound at Prospect. They will be armed to the hilt. 12 hour shifts, 500 on duty, 500 off duty. They will not be allowed any contact with Bermudians, nor will they be allowed to fornicate with our women. In two months time, we pay them handsomely for a job well done and send them back home. Thus ending the crime problem.
^^^^ any bets that this guy would by mistake shoot himself dead
Bad Idea . Bullet proof vest did not save Mr. Crockwell . Good Idea , Arm all police personal and embed armed plain cloths , jeans and white tee shirt wearing marksman at all events and most hot spots . Bandits like Sportcity motorcycles than , police need to by a couple as decoy’s . Arrest and beat would be bandits to within an inch of their miserable life if caught bike jacking with a weapon .
Absolutely crazy.
Bermuda is doomed. With these vests these idiots will be even more empowered and will resort to far more crazy acts. Now there will be open gun battles with the Police or amongst themselves. Innocent people will be caught in the cross fire.
Just like those bank robbers about 10 years or so ago in LA with full body armor who openly walked down the street with Police bullets bouncing off. The police were unable to take them down for a very long time.
This is what’s going to happen, the citizens without guns that wear vest will make themselves a BIG target to the ppl with guns. Think about it Bermuda lol the Vest are going to be the new hot item to rob like gold chains. Do you think all the ppl with guns can all afford a vest? Trust me ppl, one day your going to be strolling down the road feeling a false sense of safety then someone’s going to roll up next to you with a gun and say “give me the vest” take it from you and ride off….soon the citizens without guns will be to scared to wear the vest out of fear of getting robbed and soon the only ones with them will be the ones with guns or links to them…mark my words Bermuda wearing a vest if ya not strapped in this climate is like wearing a huge Gold chain its only going to make you a target not protect you…trust me
BANG ON ..
obviously the gang members are gonna be the ones to buy the vests to make them more fearless than they already are. how many of you really think a good local citizen would be walking around town with a bullet proof vest on on a regular
Good day all,
Isnt it or was it ilegal to bring these bullet proof vest into the island
It is not illegal to bring in body armour. The duty is the same as clothes.
BIGGEST WASTE OF $$$$$ – U can go foreign and get dem fa half price or cheaper… same vests or betta! Real talk!
Aside from the fact that the Island Armor website appears to have been taken down, has anyone checked the WHOIS listing for islandarmor.com?
Anyway, here is the WHOIS information for islandarmor.com (check it yourself at http://networksolutions.com/whois-search/islandarmor.com):
Registrant:
Island Agency
3 Cloverdale Close
New York, New York 08809
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ISLANDARMOR.COM
Created on: 21-May-12
Expires on: 21-May-13
Last Updated on: 21-May-12
Administrative Contact:
Fancy, Richard Richey221@live.com
Island Agency
3 Cloverdale Close
New York, New York 08809
United States
+1.144199999
Technical Contact:
Fancy, Richard Richey221@live.com
Island Agency
3 Cloverdale Close
New York, New York 08809
United States
+1.144199999
Domain servers in listed order:
NS05.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS06.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
OK – hands up on my part: FAIL for not reading through the comments first.
WHOIS’d hours and hours ago (10:41 am) by Apples.
I have learnt my lesson!!!