Teen Admits Using Offensive Words To Police
Appearing in Magistrates Court this morning [Aug 6] Tyshaun Brown pleaded guilty to using offensive words on Front Street on 2012/13 New Year’s Eve.The Court heard that Brown, 19, told police officers: “F*** you, you white f****. F*** you, you white crackers.”
In Court this morning, Brown told the Senior Magistrate that: “I was drunk that night.” Senior Magistrate Archie Warner fined Brown $1,000 and gave him until 6th September to pay the fine.
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Keep it classy, Tyshaun.
Nice…
I thought that , according to a commonly held belief around here , that we were waiting for all them hate filled old people to die off and then the problem would go away ? ?
Oh my, talk about failing the attitude test!
Wow…what a racist. People need to stop being so racist…its holding everyone and this island back!
Mmmmm….I love me some crackers!!!
what happened to that white kid who called a black cop the n word a few years back?
wasnt there x9 as much uproar?
is this not the same? come on my black brothers and sisters, where is the uproar for this?
Totally agree. This ignorant little racist punk should get the same disdain. Stand up Tyshaun Brown, I bet your family is proud tonight.
“I was drunk that night.”
They say there’s only two types of honest people in the world, kids and drunk people. Great defense my friend.
Wow the I was drunk story worked… Crazy. A drunk man speaks a sober mind
So if it was the other way around. The white offender would be labeled a racist. Hmmmm!! Maybe I’ve had a few to many drinks. That reminds me. “Adults create, children imitate”.
Just a question isn’t the word “c******” for white people, the same as calling a black person “n*****?
I find some of these comments interesting. The suggest that there is little or no difference between a white person calling a black police officer a “n” word and a black person calling a white police officer saying F”” you, you cracker, is naive at best. Neither of these actions are acceptable and each rightfully deserves punishment. There is however a history that makes the use of the “n” word against a black person more impactful. The failure of many to recognize or acknowledge that and other impacts of history is part of the problem we face today.
I think that is fair, however the punishment should be the same. It’s difficult territory, because every sane person believes and wants black and white equal, and this suggests we aren’t and that troubles me. History is also something every black analyst calls upon as the number one reason for problems, yet in my experience, I see little or no interest in black history from much of today’s youth, black or white.
Is this an example of how black people can’t possibly be racists?
Blacks can be racist to whites & also other black but much of this is learnt through experiences taken from living in a white culture.
You’re an idiot. Not white culture, it’s everybody’s culture.
Blacks didn’t make up the N word you imbecile & they wouldn’t have made up the word used by this young man if whites weren’t cracking a whip around them during slavery. Blacks didn’t put themselves into ghetto areas, blacks didn’t convince themselves to straighten their hair to fit in, blacks didn’t introduce crack cocaine into their communities, blacks didn’t create segregation, blacks didn’t take tuckers town from blacks, blacks didn’t strip the natural resources from their homeland, blacks didn’t create apartheid, blacks didn’t create the Hutu & Tutsi & then get one to destroy the other & blacks didn’t convince themselves that anything to do with their identity was savage & that being civilized meant to embrace white culture.
Some blacks did kidnap other blacks but this was due to tribal wars not racism which islamic nomads & Europeans took advantage of for their own ends.
first n foremost, blacks/whites/purple/ DEALERS, introducted crack to their neighborhoods, weren’t just whites. don’t go der. secondly was it only black people put into slavery? I don’t think so…and guess who put them into slavery in the first place, blacks.
For starters Lt. Col. Oliver North, President Ronald Reagan & Attorney General William French Smith were the ones along with their white CIA buddies who first to introduced crack cocaine into black communities to fund their wars & at the same time hoping it would cause a genocidal affect. You can look up any documentation of the CIA & Contras connection & see this. Secondly even though blacks sold other blacks into slavery it doesn’t make the mass exploitation of them by Europeans any more justifiable.
Haha ronald reagan did not introduce crack into neighborhoods, it was the dealers realizing they had too much powder and it would be inexpensive to make crack so they did it, made a lot more money, but anyways off the topic. and yes i agree it’s not justifiable. my point is it wasn’t just blacks that were exploited and sold by the mass.
Segregation ended in the 60′s. Its 2013. Smell the coffee, move on, and build the life YOU want.
Segregation as a law may have ended in 1960 but Governor Sir Peter Ramsbotham proved through his investigations that many of the practices of segregation still existed within the government of Bermuda more than a decade after. It’s common in Bermuda that even after a law changes on the books the old practices still remain i.e. slavery was abolished in Bermuda before America but almost all the wealthy white populace in Bermuda supported the confederates over the north & assisted them with supply trades despite UKs rule against this. History is made by the conquers not the conquered & will always lean to the conquerers side when told wether true or not.
It remains for you because it seems you want it to.
Live in the present.
“Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery…”
At present there are still more blacks than whites living below the poverty line & more blacks than whites in prison. At present George Zimmerman is a free man while Trayvon Martin is dead.
There was a study done around the time that the trial for Treyvon was starting. They found that black people were the ones more racist towards their own color. And that using the ‘n’ word between themselves proves that the word had no value or threat to them until used by a white person or that of any other color. But until I see a person of color going through and sacrificing as much as those of color did way back when, (some ancestors)I see the word as unnecessary in any colors vocabulary. Therefore, I don’t see cracker as appropriate either. Some of these youth are holding others back from being open minded
Come on big cousin set the example ahe represent our family nice
Calling a white person cracker is not the same as calling a bkack person a n****.. the term n**** comes from a much hated tradition of slavery that blacks were foeced into so to call a black person a n**** is uttlerly disrespectful to blacks for the suffering that the white people have put them threw. Whites can be called crackers n feel no way about it. But it is hurtful to a black person to be called that from white person due to slavery.. and i am a white person n it is wrong.. comment on that
The difference is blacks use it amongst themselves and in front of whites like it’s cool or funny . When whites use it, it suddenly becomes a trigger word.
Well according to Wikipedia the term cracker was used as a racial slur as well as a common reference to a white person. I hear white people refer to each other as crackers all the time, mostly as jokes. I have to agree with Pawdi, the “n” word has more of a historical racial hatred attached to it and using it directly toward someone you’re basically saying you have a 1940′s mindset and that person is beneath you not even worthy of drinking out of the same water fountain as you. I also believe it depends on an individuals perception of the word, I have black friends that could care less about the use of the “n” word just as I have some that would probably blow a fuse if they heard it. I guess it depends on the things an individual has seen, heard, or endured through their life. I also think the BPS needs to grow a pair, they enforce laws simply because they can like the guy who was in court for “talkin sh!t” to the female officer. Really, call me a cracker and I’m going to laugh at you but the police seem to have to react and arrest for every little thing said to them. The word cracker means nothing, the individuals intent of it’s use is what can make it offensive or not, but the other individual also has the choice to simply dismiss it. For every person the police arrest for trivial words there’s someone breaking and entering, assaulting, selling hard drugs and so on while the police are busy dealing with petty crimes. I think it’s stupid, you give him a fin and he learns what exactly? Not to express his opinions out loud? You cant stop him from thinking it or is there a law for conspiring to use offensive words? Keep calm, let it go and carry on.
The only blacks who use it are sellouts who have no pride in their identity & have embraced racism against themselves. This is why most of the blacks that use it follow the wankster culture that sells poison to their own people & degrades their own women.
black people weren’t the only one in slavery, whites and others were in slavery too.
White & other slaves were not stacked on top of each other like animals in the bottom of a ship all the way across the Atlantic & then discarded overboard when more room was needed or deemed unfit for the rest of the voyage. White & other slaves were treated more humanely than black slaves.
African slaves were whipped, castrated, raped & mutilated among other tortures on a regular basis & then after slavery was abolished blacks were still mistreated for decades to come & much was done in the countries that enslaved blacks to keep them from transcending.
The only reason you can make any of those claims is because on the world timescale the African slave trade happened at a time when people were documenting and writing things down. No-one was really paying as much attention prior to that by comparison.
Slavery in all it’s many forms was a horrible institution for all involved but , for their own reasons , many blacks want to make it out to be the worst by far of all of them. Is the brow beating ever going to stop ? Personally I doubt it.
Oh , btw , whites lost their property in the compulsory purchase order of Tucker’s Town as well .
African slave trade is not the only one documented its just the only one where that many people of a single nation were enslaved. It’s also the only one where the remnants of what was done is so apparent. How do you expect the brow beating to stop when the huge majority of those below the poverty line & imprisoned in the western hemisphere are of African decent?
How many people were inhabiting the Iberian peninsula when the North African Moors enslaved them for 6 centuries ?
If slavery has anything to do with blacks below the poverty line and in prison how about all the black millionaires out there ?
Bermuda is a great place to find a boat load of examples by the way but I’m sure your response will consist of something about them renouncing their ‘blackness’ and being subservient to European ways .
“White & other slaves were treated more humanely than black slaves.”
how do you know this? were you der? no you just go by what feels better or good in your head. yes there maybe documentation, but who says whites and others weren’t stacked like animals?!? u don’t know. its all about what u believe and whats been forced into your head.
How about the slaves that are still in SLAVERY TODAY?!? blacks, whites, etc.
I know this because it has been documented & even in the latest Bermudian History book it states that Native American & other slaves were preferred as house servants while African slaves were sent to the fields for hard labor. All Irish slaves in America could work towards their freedom while the majority African slaves never had a choice. It’s also been document by both black & white slaves that white slaves were kept in a different section of the ship than blacks & could sit where they were unlike the blacks who were laid on top of each other. Furthermore the white slaves brought to America were far less than the blacks & were usually POWs.
BTW I feel all slavery including present slavery is wrong but don’t we have the almighty USA who could stop this & instead chose to fight over oil rather than human rights.
His Mom done her best she really did try!
A drunk hates everyone..
Toodle oo you stupid f**** a** read it again i said when white people say it its hurtful your the ones that made it up blacks can say it because they are black
August 7, 2013 at 7:53 am “and i am a white person n it is wrong”
August 7, 2013 at 9:47 am “your the ones that made it up”
….?
Agree C/C , I think he’s angry at something and it’s confusing him.
pawdi , I have little interest in the origin of the word , the fact of the matter is, if it’s such a terrible , horrible word why is it acceptable for blacks to use it at all ? Shouldn’t it be banished completely ?
This is truly rediculous. A few years ago a young man got in a world of trouble, and media action(Front page of PLP website), for words he spoke when drunk. This young man, who is in an identical situation, simply gets 1000$ fine and his defense was that he was drunk? Pathetic…Sad island we live on
@ come correct and that f**** toodle oo
Bunch of small minded a**** …dumb a**** missed the whole point of the arguement so what i am white n i hang around all black people so stfu u f*** ****. What ya trying to point out stupid little contradictions go do sum work at ya little desk b4 i call your boss beacuase i know who you are
Are you not in a working environment? Is that why you won’t go back to your desk?
go do sum work at ya little desk b4 i call your boss beacuase i know who you are
LOL , you’re funny. That statement you made is proof positive that you don’t know who I am.
Furthermore , I have no idea who you’re hanging around but I hope the rest of them can talk ,write and spell better than you.
Wouldn’t that make you small minded since I agreed with you? I simply noticed you said you were white and then proceeded to exclude yourself from that group in your next post. If you are white cool, if you aren’t then it would be stupid to say you are just to prove your point since you had a good point…that I agreed with. lastly you clearly have no idea who either of us are because I don’t work at a desk either and I’m my boss.
I bet mommy and daddy are proud of their little racist.
@ Tommy Chong I thought black egyptian kings and queens “cracked the whip” first didnt they? Or do you choose not to look at that history to! So what ya saying to me is that its ok for a black male to call me c******, but not ok for a white person to call u n*****!? To me you are part of the problem in this country! Go get a life and become the solution!
I’ll agree that people living in a part of ancient Egypt now Libya may have had slaves as did other civilizations at the time but there’s no proof they were the first only that they were one of the first. This is just a digression of my point since it’s not who was the first but what the affects of slavery of Africans by Europeans has done.
My point is that both words you refer to stem from the mistreatment of Africans & even though I believe that no one should be called these names regardless of race that the N word still has more of a negative connotation than the other & this should be understood. The C one means a slave driver while the N one refers to the slave & the view that they are worth less than an animal. I would think that someone would rather be called a slave driver than called a worthless animal if they were asked to chose.
Part of the problem is that people like you try to judge how others should feel when in constant reminder their ancestors were stolen from their land & were aspected to act as if nothing happened just because you can look in the mirror & not experience those feelings. Many have learnt to burry those feelings & I’m one of those but I still can sympathize those who haven’t especially when they see that the odds are against them & have little means to change that.
The comments thus far have been even more interesting. Yes whites were slaves and in some cases still are the victims of discrimination because of their ethnic origin. In order to minimize the impact of this discrimination many moved to other countries and changed their names. This would be a futile exercise for any black person to even consider in order to escape discrimination based on race. Let it be known that racism and discrimination of any kind is wrong but to imply that the experiences are the same is again naive at best.
In Bermuda race remains an issue, partly because of the financial disparity which was caused by the actions done in the past. What is more frustrating to many in the black community is the failure of many to recognize this and have the willingness or courage to speak openly and compassionately about it. The former Government was correct to start the “Big Conversation” and it is hoped that the present Government would consider doing something similar. It would be the right move both politically and socially. Judging by this blog thus far, it is an indication that structured and respectful conversation is needed.
PS. Tommy Chong you are my hero!
Fine then, the most pertinent question of the day/night. Why is it still brought up (it doesn’t need to be forgotten at all), and what do they (blacks, whites, other slaves, etc) want? Recognition, money, etc? enlighten me.
I like Tommy Chong you have a cheerleader!!Lol