Man Shot In St David’s, Two Arrests Made
[Updated with video. Following a "verbal and physical altercation" a 28 year old man was shot at around 2.45am this morning in the Cove Valley area of St. David's. The victim was shot in in his lower extremities, and his injuries are not considered to be life-threatening. Two people have been arrested in connection with this incident.]
There was shooting in St David’s early this morning [Apr 30] resulting in one person being injured.
The incident occurred at around 2.30am this morning in the Cove Valley area, and Police Media Manager Dwayne Caines has confirmed that one person was injured and said the injuries do not appear to be life threatening.
We will update with additional information as able.
Update 8.30am: The police remain on scene, and a house in the area is surrounded by crime scene tape.
Update 2.00pm: The police are presently holding a press conference about this shooting. They said prior to the shooting, the victim appears to have been involved in a “verbal and physical altercation” with two or more persons in the area.
Update 2.53pm: The police said this does not appear to be linked to last week’s shooting, which resulted in the death of Mr. Erin Richardson.
Police also said the victim of this morning’s shooting is a 28 year old male, and said he was shot in his “lower extremities.”
The police also confirmed that two people are in custody in relation to this incident. We will post the video of the full press conference shortly.
Update 3.34pm: The video of the full press conference is below
Update 5.22pm: The full statements from Acting Assistant Commissioner of Police James Howard and Acting Detective Chief Inspector Dave Greenidge, Officer in Charge of the Serious Crime Department follow in full below:
Acting Assistant Commissioner of Police James Howard:
“The Bermuda Police Service is keenly aware that the community has enjoyed almost seven months with no shooting deaths or injuries until recently. One week ago today Erin Richardson was shot and killed near his home in Southampton and then early this morning a man was shot and injured in St. David’s. It is therefore understandable that the community would be worried.
“I can only reiterate that the information they provide is essential to our investigation and the advice if you know something, say something can only help to make Bermuda safer. The detectives are keeping an open mind into this investigation as it moves forward.
“At this stage it does not appear to be linked to the other incident and there is no evidence to support that it is as a result of one gang targeting another.
“To the St. David’s community, over the next few days you will see an influx of uniformed officers; don’t be alarmed, they are here to assist in the door to door inquiries and to provide relevant information to the community. And hopefully they will obtain information from the community in relation to any suspicious activity they may have seen over the last day or so.”
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Acting Detective Chief Inspector Dave Greenidge, Officer in Charge of the Serious Crime Department:
“Around 2.45am on Wednesday April 30, 2014, police officers responded to a report of gunshots in Cove Valley, St. David’s, St. George’s. Officers were directed to a 28-year-old male who was suffering from a suspected gunshot injury to his lower extremities.
“First aid was administered and the male was later transported to the King Edward Memorial Hospital where he was treated for his injury, which is not life-threatening. Officers understand that immediately prior to the shooting, the victim was involved in a verbal and physical altercation with his assailants.
“Officers are keen to speak with anyone who may have heard or seen anyone acting suspiciously in the Cove Valley and St. Luke’s Lane areas around that time. Additionally, anyone who would have seen any vehicles, more specifically, a dark-coloured four-door sedan motorcar, which was not displaying any registration plates.
“We are appealing to anyone who witnessed the incident or can provide information that can assist in the investigation, to contact detectives from the Serious Crime Department. The Senior Investigating Officer for this matter is Detective Inspector Michael Redfern.
“The Serious Crime Department can be contacted at 247-1739 and 247-1365 or on the confidential and independent Crime Stoppers hotline at 800-8477 [TIPS].”
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Police are keen to speak with anyone who may have heard or seen anyone acting suspiciously in the Cove Valley and St. Luke’s Lane areas around 2.45am. Additionally, anyone who would have seen any vehicles, more specifically, a dark-coloured four-door sedan motorcar, which was not displaying any registration plates.
The Serious Crime Department can be contacted at 247-1739 and 247-1365 or on the confidential and independent Crime Stoppers hotline at 800-8477 [TIPS].
Update 6.18pm: St. David’s MP Lovitta Foggo said, “Every shooting, regardless of location, is an affront to the security and stability of our country. I plead with the perpetrators of these actions to think before they act and to find a better way of resolving disputes.
“Nothing good can or will come from these acts. I hope the Police can investigate this occurrence and bring the perpetrator[s] to justice. These cowardly acts have no place in our communities. The victim is personally known to me and my family, and this shows that even as politicians we are not removed from being affected by these incidents.”
Also, newly installed Shadow Minister for Public Safety, Walter Roban commented, “We are concerned at the news of this latest shooting, especially following on the close heels of the shooting death in Southampton last week. We are concerned that after a lull in gun crime, it may be picking up again.
“This does not bode well for our communities and it must be stomped out. We implore anyone with any information regarding the St. David’s shooting and any other unsolved crimes to present themselves to the Police.”
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they need to move all those places like gulfstream emergency housing outta st.davids. we used to have a peaceful area. now I have to make sure my doors and windows are locked and nothing valuable is left outside of my house
You should be doing that already. This island is not like it used to be…
Thats the WHOLE bermuda not just st.davids…. what an idiot!
You sound like an idiot! So where do you want the emergency housing to be ?
How about your neighbourhood for a year. See how you like the problems it has brought the residents in the area.
I thought Atlanta was our shiddy overspill?
Bermuda used to be peaceful. It’s not just St. David’s. And for the record….everyone, everywhere in Bermuda now has to lock up their houses. I highly doubt that it is because of emergency housing.
You my friend sound like Donald Sterling and maybe its you who should move out of St. Davids. For you to assume this had anything to do with residents of Gulfstream is pure folly.
You clearly don’t live in St. David’s. Maybe you don’t realize how many persons from over there would trespass and shoplift in the neighborhood. And verbally abuse anyone who spoke out to the offending of the behavior.
No one said all the persons there are bad but to make a comparison to the hot topic name Sterling to this is in poorest of taste.
Your comment is pure nonsense. This has nothing to do with the people that live at Gulfstream. These are people like you and I that happen to be down on their luck. Leave those poor people alone!
FYI (and you can check for yourself), statistically there has been few, if any, crimes committed in the St. David’s area that can be linked to any of the Gulfstream residents. I get so sick of so called “real” St. David islanders that seem to think no outsiders should live in their precious land. The last time I checked, St. David’s was a part of Bermuda. You all are not so special, and if an outsider wants to live there, poor you, GET OVER IT!!! The government choose to put them there, what would you have? Do you want to see women and children out of the street? You know full well that they have tight security at the complex and the majority of people there keep to themselves.
I live in St. David’s, and most of the people I see acting the a$$ are the so called “real” St. David islanders 9running all over the place and acting the drunken fool).
5 likes 21 dislikes. I think the comment section speaks for itself!
I used to live st. D I can confirm that it’s not the same. Ever since the completion of those old base housing units it hasn’t been the same with ppl from all over the island coming down. Majority of Bermuda has never lived so far east to even comment on how things used to be!
True St Dvid’s Islanders are you looking for an in house war VJ??? It if weren’t for the true St David’s Islander our community would be worse. I suggest you sit on keep left and count your blessings that the True St David’s Islanders are in charge if not you wouldn’t be living ‘home’
Bermuda is home to all of us! You sound like a real fool. I had a coworker who was from St. David’s who was always upset about outsiders moving down there. When she got married she moved to her husband’s homestead in Bailey’s Bay. I asked her how come she was allowed to move into another area but didn’t want anybody to move to St. David’s. She said it’s not the same thing. Huh?
FYI i DO live in St. Davids and happen to work and socialize with people from Gulfstream. My Point was that before the first commenter even knew what had happened they somehow tied a MINORITY group (of families living in government housing) the shooting and all crime in St. Davids. Their words were similar to that of Sterlings, that of ‘i dont want those people here”. Rushing to judgement of a specific segment of society is a low blow and not needed. Especially because we know ALL St. Davids Islanders are angels and have never committed a crime.
You are absolutely correct. These people have been made to be the scapegoat whenever anything goes wrong in St. David’s. I didn’t want to bring my job into this, but I used to be a reserve police officer and my partner is still there. All I can recall with the people at the housing units was fights or threatening behavior with EACH OTHER. They would fight about people violating their space or borrowing things without permission. They have security guards posted there, and visitors can’t run in and out of the place. Just for confirmation, I just turned to my partner and asked him if he has much problems with the guys there. He shook his head and said, “Nothing major. Just a bunch of petty stuff.” We DID have problems with others in that community, even so called St. David Islanders, but not the people at the emergency unit. People need to stop blaming them because it is grossly unfair.
When I first moved to St. David’s, I had an elderly neighbor that wouldn’t give me the time of day. She could barely look at me, much less speak to me. One day, I saw her sitting outside looking poorly and went over to see if I could be of assistance. She wasn’t feeling well, and couldn’t reach her son to take her to King Edward. I ended up taking her to the hospital and staying with her until they were able to reach her son. Well after that, I would take the lady grocery shopping or to her doctor appointments. Since she loved yard sales, if I was off on a Saturday, I would drive her from one end of the island to the other. On the day I was moving house (even though I wasn’t going that far), she cried and hugged me and said I was the best neighbor she ever had. She even said how she felt so bad for how she treated me when I first moved in, because I wasn’t from St. David’s and she wasn’t used to dealing with people from outside the area.
I know this is long, but I say all that to say this. We have good people and bad people from all over the island. Because you are from one place doesn’t mean you have more morals or principles than anybody else. Because you are poor or homeless doesn’t automatically mean you are a criminal. The housing complex was put in place at a time that coincided with a rise in crime island wide. Naturally, people automatically attributed this to the complex. Not true at all. I love St. David’s, and like all the people that live there, I wish it could remain my own little piece of paradise. However, this is not realistic. The island has changed for all of us, and we need to embrace our neighbors instead of engaging in turf wars. For the people that dislike people simply because they think they don’t ‘belong’ there, makes them just as bad as these thugs that shoot and kill people simply because they come from the ‘wrong’ area.
VJ you make some very VALID points…..Amazing how some would just click “dislike” for the hell of it…..Guess we all know where they’re from…..SMH…..
FINALLY…the voice of reason.
Thank you!!!
Blindbutcansee=****
Are you for real? Do you honestly think that emergency housing has ANYTHING to do with this??? Why are those poor, down on their luck folks always blamed for stuff like this? It has NOTHING to do with them.
These hoodlums come into the area to settle beefs with whoever they hold it against and it isn’t the emergency housing people. If they were the target, the shooting would have happened there, would it not, brainiac? I certainly doubt any of them were the culprits-do you think anyone there would be dumb enough to store a gun there, or even afford one or even have the transportation to carry it out…I see them-most walk or catch the bus! They’re poor people (no crime), not gun-wielding thugs!
You would be surprised what your born and bred St. David Islanders (the young ones) are up to! They are no angels! Why do people act like St. David’s is some magical place where no outsider can venture, full of angels who don’t carry out crimes? If you believe that, then you really do live in Fairyland. I know PLENTY of born and bred St. David Islanders hoodlum youths so stop blaming those poor emergency housing people-they are not to blame, you idiot!
lol. “Native” St. Davids islanders are so weird I swear. Always talking about “outsiders” ruining their precious land when those scumbags from there are probably the worst in Bermuda. The same ones complaining about outsides are probably the parents of these bad ass “kids” in St. Davids causing trouble all over the island but pretend they don’t know what their bratty children are up to, or are benefiting from what their bratty children are up to.
Real stuff he right u people wird I think they should bloc it off behind double dip n keep they a**es down there but they can’t do that n we gotta live wit u so u gone see all the same bs we see
Str8 like dat
You really need to go back to school! Geesh that was painful to read.
No, what they need to do is to get rid of ya a**es.
name them?????
i remember a time people wldnt even say they was from st davids on the chance someone started roasting bout inbreeding and them just possibly being the product…..and now you feel your the epitome of a community???? GTFOH! in all honesty do any of you really think people even wanna move to st davids????? for whaaaaaaat.
That’s everywhere now. St. Davids unfortunately is not exempt from these anti social issues. Nimby puts gulf stream in the only place anybody will feel safe and happy – on an inaccessible island. Since that can not happen, we all have to deal with it. Its a sad state of affairs. (NIMBY = NOT IN MY BACK YARD).
@whatanidiot it would appear that you are living up to your screen name with a comment like that. How do you know it was someone from Gulfstream Emergency Housing? It could have been the dude that lives next to you, that goes to church every week and waves to you everyday before you go work!!! Better still St. David’s is so close knit it might be your cousin that did it! Stop stereotyping people….it’s people like you that really have the problem
I live in St. David’s and my relatives are St. David’s Islanders. I can honestly say that our neighborhood has deteriorated since the PLP Government (David Burch) gave permission to house the former Canadian Hotel “patients” to Southside (the old US Navy Barracks. Many of these individuals do not take their medication and roam and cause fear among the residents. Gulfstream has become an issue as well and if you can afford to load up on beer, cig papers (oh yes) and cigs at the local store then you can pay rent and get out of that palce or if your children have $150 sneakers and you have nails and weave then you need to get out and pay rent normal rent! I will not go out for a walk alone or let my children out anymore because you see them walking and cursing to themselves and you don’t know what will provoke them. Who monitors these people? This shooting however, I don’t think has anything to do with them. Southside has become a hideout for some shady people do I need to say more. No one needs this in their neighborhood not us and not anyone else. It has to stop everywhere. All Mohawks standup if you know anything call the Police. We don’t need this craziness.
There is only one guy that fits that description of ‘walking the street and cursing.’ Unfortunately, he has mental issues but there are people like him all over Bermuda. If you get your selfish wish, he will move someplace else and be somebody else’s neighbour. Wow, how very considerate of you!
St. David’s did not deteriorate over the last few years. ALL of Bermuda has!!! Mohawk, why do you think St. David’s should be any different?
I have lived in St. David’s for the last six years, and I have never had a problem with those guys. I live very close to the housing units, and even give people rides to the number one gate regularly with no problem.
Whether you are a “Mohawk” or not, any civic minded person should call the police if they see anything. No, I also don’t want any problems as St. David’s is indeed very peaceful. I just think it is very unfair to blame this on the people at the emergency housing without proof. I can bet you anything the shooter doesn’t even live in the area, much less at the housing complex.
Thank Goodness! When is he moving. Call me what you want but I speak up and I speak the truth. Eitehr monitor them (make usre they are takign their medicine) or move them. If my child gets hurt; trust me I will not be a happy camper.
BTW, I have lived St. David’s all my life! I wear a feather lol
Call the Police after the fact. Give me a break. I speak the truth, prevention is better.
Oh an I have proof. We had a run in with that person you speak of, actually there are two of them now.
Bye for now
aka Selfish
@Grizz did you read my comment entirely you lunatic (now that we are callling each other names). It said “although I don’t think it’s anyone that lives there”????? Like I said, two arrested and I can bet that they are not from the east end. Take that to the bank. I know the people that go to the church and I know they aint packing lol
Mohawk forever!!!!! Love it or hate it.
@mohawk are you a friggin moron, I never responded to anything YOU said unless you are @whatanidiot!! That is to whom my response was. Looks like you are the only lunatic on here….Try reading before you come on here looking like a complete a******!
The issue is not trying to relocate people and saying not in my back yard,This is a Bermuda problem that must be shouldered by all if we are going to get a grip on this. For someone to suggest that we drive folk from one area to another is utter stupidity, guns and bullets don’t have names or address,every Bermudian should be concerned about ending this foolishness and not just merely trying to shift locations of were the incidents occur.
We are still to narrow minded in our thinking, if there is a shootings at St. Monica’s mission or anywhere that is deemed to be a gang related area, we feel that is normal circumstances,and I say no to guns and violence along with many other sensible Bermudians.
Many of those who were relocated to the St. Davids area decent law biding citizens,so don’t lumped them all into the same box.Then if the writer looks deeper you may find it is your distant relatives, and who is to say that the shooter them self is not from the St. Davids area even if the victim is not originally from there. either way stupidity on your part to think moving people will solve the situation.
2 likes 15 dislikes! Lol eww
So your talking about yourself Duane.
Distant relatives.
Shut up.
Shut up!
That’s because MP HOUSEHOLDER Don’t support St Davids
We have no representation from the OBA MP Susanne is missing in action. She needs to resign, losing our post office and now this?
our yards are used by emigrants as short cuts some speak most don’t not many have gotten the the message speak or walk your ar$e round one family has let said it and mean it you walk in you may not walk out they believe in the old fasioned religion like Loyal Hill St David’s Islanders know what is expected of them the others don’t give a crap we remember all ways Uncle Maxi and Lil Freddy their demise has been recorded in the books above and those responsible forever remember what they did to them and our Community yet still WE RISE!
You are obviously from St. David’s. As bright as a bucket of rocks. Learn how to read and write properly before you go around dissing people!!!
I also love old time discipline walk thru my yard
dont speak
try to steal my bike from my yard or a neighbors
peep thru my windows or my neighbors
interfere with my son or daughter or my neighbors
call me aunty or uncle and curse me as you walk past or do the same to my neighbor
steal my underwear off the clothes line or my neighbors
throw rocks at my house or my neighbors
pull up my plants or vegetable plants or my neighbors
spray paint on my house sign or my neighbors
throw rocks at my dog or my neighbors
drop your trash outside my house or my neighbors
Go ahead do one or all and i will tell you remember Loyal Hill a good cut arse never hurt a child/wayward man or woman that is how it is in my neck of St Davids
I am a college graduate and punctuation was not a requisite college of hard knocks
@ Hmmm I am born and raised in St. David’s and despite what you may have heard we are very educated. Most of us went to Warwick Academy and went on to further our education. Most did not end up on the street my dear. In fact, I hold an MBA and have a very high paying job……………yourself?
aka
Bucket of Rocks Lol
Since you’re so bright red-read my comments and you should be able to figure it out.
I like how in one of your posts you spoke of your minimum wage job and how you, “done” all you could too get ahead. You certainly don’t sound like somebody with a MBA. In fact, reading your posts you sound like a very stubborn and ignorant person. Even when faced with reason and logic, you won’t give in. If you’re telling the truth, sounds like all book brains and no common sense.
Sorry, you were talking to Hmmm but my comments still stand.
*typo. “To” get ahead
The rest of the world uses punctuation….
“WELL” the PLP/BIU located them there and you voted for them so suck it up.
Agree……………lesson learned.
shootings are not supposed to happen in St David’s! They’re not supposed to happen anywhere, but certainly not in St David’s!
OH SHUT UP! YOU SOUND REAL DUMB!!!! SHUT UP
Nothing good ever happens after ten at night .
Speak for yourself, I’ve had good things happen after 10pm…. Many times… He he he he…..
Did they go to the not so Urgent Care centre ? as it was not life threatening.
St Davids had it’s issues before Gulf Stream. Wake up!
Yup , the Foxs were always eating the Lambs !!
Like what???? Back it up!
Like ,why are the Pitchers still throwing curve balls at the Foggos ?
The only issues ST Davids had was getting our roads cleaned getting our trash picked up or getting a bus at hours that were convenient to those who were in need. You like many others are the reason why we as a people are so tribal and have little favour for FERNS!!!! Seen and heard it all before we did well enough without most of this refuse when most wouldn’t be dragged over here by a team of horses yet now we are the last frontier with all manner of undesirable taking refuge where ever they can. Most who post negative comment about St Davids have no clue about our community and how we as a people lived as an independent community that relied on everyone sharing and working together there was a bond that was never evident throughout the rest of Bermuda. St Davids Boys forever.
HAIL HAIL!!!!
Holla! Speak it Warrior!
that is right by my old house.
OMG….I thought I was dreaming when I heard that a gun shot go off last night.
Bullet or arrow?
Gulfstream (aka the projects!)needs to go! Its full of bum azz ppl! &it makes st davids look bad! If those ppl choose to live that type of life they don’t diserve to say they live st davids!
Your comment is very insensitive, selfish and disrespectful! “Those People” are living at Gulf Stream for various reasons. Not everyone can afford to live a comfortable life. And by the looks of things in Bermuda, more will be down on their luck. Stop criticizing those who are already under enough scrutiny. Dont you think they feel bad enough. I’m so tired of this insensitive behaviour from our own people. Its disgusting and saddening. Everyone is going through something!!
Do you think the same about PS and 42nd?
Lots and most all are decent people.
Now your point again.
you cannot seriously be blaming the people over gulfstream for this. smh as soon as anything happens oh it was those poor unfortunate people over gulfstream. like foreal shut the fadoodle up! how about ummmm gangs? they exist you freaking retards. get a life!
What makes you think St.Davids is so special. You are very small minded to think things don’t happen down there. Shootings happen all around the island regardless. I’m not saying its good that a shooing happened but you can not blame the gulf stream residents just because a shooting accured down there. Not everyone is fortunate, so people are dealt with bad hands that’s why they are there to get back on there feet. Thing happen to people that you would not understand. I bet if you were homeless you be right there with those same people. I can’t stand small minded Bermudians
Trust me it’s not good but you will not see us trying to turn a blind eye. If you have an issue man up; one on one not some coward punk using a gun. We may use arrows but that’s another chapter lol.
We laugh love and live man. We are peacful people. We look for no trouble and we bring no trouble. We lay low and enjoy life. No problem. We don’t wish any harm on anyone but just keep your violence elsewhere. We will speak up; trust me:)
Wll Done BPS..now nail those 2 scum and get them locked away.
How do you know that it was them? just because they were arrested.?…..obviously the police are going to pick up the ones he had the altercation with first……. get excited IF they’re charged.
Its no gulfstream in Southampton were the last shooting occurred neither is there any in Paget or Pembroke… Gulfstream is not to blame for this them 2 shooters on a bike that’s been riding around shooting at ppl are… #Thehitmanistoblame
So just get rid of the poor people so you “real St.Davids” dudes can have the neighborhood’s back to yourselves to cause and wreak drunken havoc alone. How many of ya’ll are cousins and sisters and brothers by BLOOD not Marriage….? Talk about special people who don’t take or need meds! WOW…ignorant a** people!
Poor, poor, really? When you are poor you cannot afford cigarettes can you?
Gulfstream is a problem. Not for all. There are some legitimate situations but there are some that are taking it for granted and causing issues. Why house these people in a building to share bathrooms etc.? They are not animals. Make them accoutable. Have you looked for a job today, have you tried to add value to yourself by taking courses? PL created a ghetto for Bermudians and we should be ashamed to live that way. We have expats living better. These families needs homes not a room. You cage people they act like animals. We need to wake up; Bermudians need to regrain their pride.
Give me some concrete evidence about how these people are acting like animals. While I agree with you that people need to be held accountable, it is not right to look down on them either. Some of the people that live there are older gentlemen that cannot work or guys that have physical or mental disabilities. Yes, some are just plain lazy and don’t want to work. However, what you are venting about has absolutely NOTHING to do with this article, which is about a shooting. These people that aren’t “looking for a job or adding value by taking courses” have nothing to do with the man that got shot. While I take your point, you are comparing apples with oranges.
Give me solid, concrete example of crimes committed by these people. Not speculation, SOLID examples of cases that have been brought before the courts of acts committed by these men.
Thank you.
You know what! Folks on this site who claim and wish ‘certain people’ should not be living in St Davids are likely the same people screaming that the Lamb Foggo Urgent care center cannot close. Well guess what! that UCC was and is paid for by taxpayers from Somerset to Hamilton Parish, so people can pay for a convenience for you but don’t come there to live? Every parish has had its share of issues, crime related! You think we enjoy it? I’m not going to ask you if you were raised in Warwick, and if not we prefer you don’t live here. I say we ask the Russians to Annex St.Davids, since they don’t feel they are a part of Bermuda.
Oh and close the Urgent Care Center! And to think I defended it.. ughh
@mowhawk
dont u go there pls ☻☻☻
lets leave it at dat
some on finacial assitence should be invesgateds robin we taxc payers 񹺍
I am there and will stay there. And if I don’t, what ya going to come packing lol
Let me tell you something, I’ve lived down here for years and I’ve watched and listened to it all. I know what I am talking about.
I help people that are genunley in need and what I mean by that is people who have come across tough times because of redundancy, divorce not people that are just lazy and don’t wnat to add value to themselves and expect the Government to look after them.
If you think I am going to support someone that goes out and continues to have children even when they cannot affor the ones they have and to top it off they are not even married or have the children for the same man, you gotta be joking.
I was a single parent and raised my children on minimum wage. I done what I could and made major sacrifices………….meaning, no nails or new outfits for cupmatch or fancy sneakers because Joe Blow had them for his children. Nor did I park a Mercedes outside my RENTED one bedroom with three children. I did not fly off the New Jersey every other weekend.
These type Bermudians are feeling it now. Get up and sort yourselves out. We have expats here making more sacrifices and we have become the lowlives. This may bother you but what is this place coming to if we have ghetto style housing now. Who wants to bring their children up in that environment.
For people that live there and are TRULY met with hard times because of legit reason and I know a few becuase I have recently helped them with resumes, courses and ways to get a home for their families, I extend a big hand.
Financial assistance should be given but the recipients should also have some homework to do. Like how have or what have you done to get out of this situation.
Now I went there, respond!
@Mohawk.
You are generalizing and stereotyping. Lots of low income people carry on like that, but most don’t. I know a lot of the people at the housing unit, and I know for a FACT that most of them don’t travel, get hair and nails done, wear fancy sneakers and the like. People always use that as their “go to” excuse for looking down on poor people, that they live beyond their means. And yes, you ARE looking down at them and lumping them together because you have no proof that what you’re saying is even true. You are being extremely prejudiced, it’s like me saying ALL St. David islanders are dumb, ignorant or stubborn, can’t read or write properly, marry or sleep with their cousins, drink too much, call each other “Bill” or all the other negative comments people make. We have ALL heard the St. David jokes, do you think it’s fair? Do YOU like to be looked down on? I’m sure not, so why you looking down on these people? FYI a lot of PROFESSIONAL people with DEGREES can’t even find jobs. Some of the Gulfstream people, with their limited education, may have been turned down for jobs. Do you know for a FACT that they aren’t trying? You seem to know an awful lot about what goes on down there, what you doing peeping in people’s windows at night???
This didn’t happen at GulfStream, This happend in Cove Valley, to a born and bred St.Davids Islander…Why would you bring up Gulfstream? Those of us who know the victim know this was a personal attack…He (allegedly) had an argument and fight, and ended up getting shot….I feel for my boy (victim), but as the saying goes “there are no friends in the game)…I hope he recovers 100% and leaves the game…he’s truly a good youth- peace
Like getting shot is normal. If you know ya boy like you say and apparently you know much more, speak up my brother and truly help him out:)
The game I play I have lots of friends; what game you play?
i remember a time people wldnt even say they was from st davids on the chance someone started roasting bout inbreeding and them just possibly being the product…..and now you feel your the epitome of a community???? GTFOH! in all honesty do any of you really think people even wanna move to st davids????? for whaaaaaaat.
So you all carry guns in St.Davids?
Godson.
Wow.
Save the sarcasm for your own friends and family please…
You brought this on yourself. Respond we are interesed in knowing this as we will speak.
You people know how to stray off topic. This has nothing whatsoever to do with gulfstream! Annoying…
@VJ and what Government was that, that placed all these people down here on Southside. There is no longer housing crisis at present, start placing some of these people in individual homes. This type of living is not normal, and most of these children are not enjoying the best upbringing that they could be enjoying. The Project in NYC were not a good idea and neither is this facility on Southside.
Wake up! I GET IT!!! What you are saying is besides these point. I don’t dispute the fact that this was initially set up as emergency housing and some of these people have been there for years. That is very true. However, whether they previous government was right or wrong is not the point of this article. Whether the people need to be moved to individual housing is not they point. How the children are being raised its also not the point. I get all that, however all of those factors has nothing to do with the shooting. I just think some of you need to wake up to the fact that some of your precious St. David boys are dealing drugs and doing a pack right under your noses. That will go on whether the Gulfstream people are there or not.
EXACTLY. The houses across from the Gulfstream (BLDC owned – not the ones that were sold through the phases) years ago rented those to families down on their luck who needed to get on their feet. They have been there for 20 years now. They are on their feet trust me. It’s time they pay the same rent/mortgage I do and allow some of the familes at Gulfstrem, especially those with chilren to get on their feet. Again, nothing monitored. Not the housing nor the patients.
when is the last time you hurd of a St. David’s Islander in the news for crime?
The word is “heard” not “hurd.” How old are you, five???
So what are you saying, not ONE single St. David Islander has EVER been in the news for a crime?
St. David’s must really be a magical place. The ONLY place on earth where the natives never break the law!!!
How do you know that it was them? just because they were arrested.?…..obviously the police are going to pick up the ones he had the altercation with first……. get excited IF they’re charged.
@VJ, no one is saying our precious St. David’s boys are perfect and you are missing the point. The point is WE and I speak as a true and bred Islander DON’T tolerate violence in our community not today not tomorrow and that is how we were raised. It is not necessary. No one is talking about dealing drugs and I suppose the same people at the church is selling that to right. I know there have been drug busts and that is everywhere. What we are talking about is GUN violence, a man was shot. The topic of Gulfstream and the other (Orange Bldg.) was brought up to and that was because of 1. Phyc patients walking around the St. David’s area cursing etc. and some not all of the people staying at the Gulfstream (as there are genuinely good hard working people staying there)and some of the company they carry with them.
Even in some of the houses across the street that was suppose to be for families that needed to get on their feet. They have been there for almost 20 years still getting on their feet. They have businesses, boats etc. I am sure it’s time for them to give them up to some of the families in Gulfstream that need to get on their feet, especially those with children. Ms. Foggo where are you on this one.
I know this is late, but I pray you see this message.
There’s tons of drug dealing going on in St. David’s by “born and bred” St. David Islanders. We all know the people, we all know the houses they deal out of (and trust me, it isn’t Gulfstream). Even YOU know the people and the players, but since they come from there you think that makes it ok.
Has it ever dawned on you that drug dealing is attracting all this so called “bad company” you speak of to the area?
all I can say is people from the east fight the least… family orientated and full of life get those broke fowls outta st davids too much outsiders thinking they can venture into our land which has been so safe for years. my son and all his fam roll outside, its not safe anymore … its a shame it isn’t safe any more. these ass**les must not have remembered its one way in and one way out. I hope they are caught, charged and jailed. you cant come into a tight community and think your not gna get caught?? stop the crime 21 miles of your gna get caught