Prayer Vigil Taking Place Around Parliament
People are gathering in Hamilton this afternoon [June 12] taking part in a prayer vigil, with people standing facing walls in prayer.
Allan Hunt said they are there to pray for the upcoming referendum, as they “believe that marriage is between a man and a woman” and they are “bible based.”
“We are not homophobic as some might say,” added Mr Hunt. “God commands us to love, if we don’t love we are not Christian.”
When asked about the significance of surrounding Parliament, Mr Hunt said, “This is the seat of Government, so we need to pray for our Government, and we need to pray for our country.
“They govern the country, so we are praying for the country.”
Audio comment from Mr Hunt:
Prayer cards being handed out:
People praying:
Hypocrites.
Every individual is entitled to believe what they want…
A choice is what each person will make…..but it does not mean they are hypocrites…..
Folks often stand up for what they believe in….the same way the other persons have stood up for their beliefs. ….
There has been a push by others that think differently using via forms of communication e.g. videos, posters and social media daily……
All.persons should be allowed to speak in regards to this issue with out fear or name calling. ……
Come on folks let’s not turn this into a muddy battle of will……respect where folks are on this matter….respect one another’s Right to stand were they believe is best for them
If your for SSM OR NOT WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO STAND ON EITHER SIDE…….
This is not about “believing what they want”
It’s about denying people equal access to rights and privileges that the rest of us share.
It’s about denying that access for no real reason.
What’s hypocritical is that they believe that their personal choice of religion should take precedent over other people’s and should affect their lives, their happiness and their relationships.
Yet, when asked if they’d be ok with that happening to them, they go silent.
When asked for a single reason, one they’re willing to defend, that we should continue denying these folks access to these rights, they go silent.
They don’t have time to answer these questions.
They’re too busy surrounding the house of assembly and praying loudly.
You say people should be allowed to speak without fear of name calling.
I say people should be allowed to live their lives without fear of some religious person sticking their nose into someone else’s life.
I say people should be able to live without having to hear horrific, awful lies being told about them to support some anti-equality agenda.
I say people should be able to live without some religious maniac using the words and taboos of his religion, and the lies told to him by people looking to dehumanize a group of people by denying them equal rights, walking into a club and murdering them in cold blood.
This isn’t just a difference of opinion.
This is a campaign of dishonesty and injustice and it is literally killing people and it has to stop.
“… it is literally killing people and it has to stop.”
Dishonest, prejudiced?
Could be, and there’s very little this Campaign could print that would dissuade me from the belief that they are wrong about gay marriage.
I would be very surprised, though, if you could point to any evidence that mainstream anti-SSM/CU folks here sought to attack other people or have advocated violence against Bermudians.
The Parliament vigil-thing is not “literally killing people.”
A bunch of older church-goers with personal hesitations about gay marriage up at Parliament has nothing to do with some (apparently Islamist) lunatic storming into a gay club and gunning people down.
Thank you for twisting my words by cherry picking what I said.
Willfully misinterpreting what I posted doesn’t make me wrong.
As I explained, treating people as less than the rest of us, using lies and misinformation, is what leads to these things.
You also seem to be ignoring the rate of auicide amongst LGBT youth.
Oh, and assuming that I meant here in Bermuda.
The campaign promoting inequality against LGBT folks IS killing people.
To deny that it is is myopic.
Black people have been murdered and killed for no reason for de last 400 hundred years.
And? I’ve spoken out against that many, many times.
After accusing someone of taking what you said out of context, you really shouldn’t validate that conclusion by doubling down with the same statement.
Once again, one doesn’t have to agree with what the pious pensioners at Parliament were up to yesterday to accept that as a group they aren’t violently disposed to homosexuals.
Come to think of it, isn’t it kind of dehumanizing to liken their stance on gay marriage (they seem to be against it) to that of a mass murderer who simply wanted to kill as many gay people as he could?
Fun as it may be to lump them in with some head hacker in Raqqa, this really is a difference of opinion in Bermuda.
I think Bernews ate my reply so here goes again.
“The campaign” in Bermuda against LGBT folks (your words) apparently isn’t killing people, and this prayer vigil certainly didn’t kill anyone.
To liken the anti-SSM stance of pious pensioners on Parliament, with whom we both have differences of opinion, to the murderous incident in Florida is inflammatory and, to quote you accurately (again), is to willfully misinterpret what they are asking for.
You very obviously have no idea what this campaign has been saying, who is behind it, or pretty much anything about it.
But keep tut tutting and playing silly games with words.
Meanwhile, people are dying. But you get to be right on the Internet. Yay for you!
Must be nice to be Mike Hind….He who know everything!!
Nope. This is just another ad hominem because you don’t like what I have to say.
Try again.
I’ve don’t support the aims or rhetoric of the (Bermuda) campaign.
On the other hand, speaking about them as though they collectively support mass murder is tasteless and guilt by association.
Evidently you feel differently. Just have to settle for being right on this, I guess.
Which is fine, we can’t all be digital heroes.
Never said they support it. Twisting words and accusing me of things I didn’t do is also tasteless. And unfair.
They are on the same side and sending similar messages, though.
The lies and misinformation are what leads to these things. I stand by that. It might not be a short step from “You shouldn’t be allowed to live here” to “You shouldn’t be allowed to live”, but it’s certainly on the same path.
We’ve seen threats of violence towards gays for just showing affection. We’ve seen people say they’re “grossed out” by two women holding hands. All these messages add to the negatives that led to this. That leads to all violence against those who people thing are “less”.
Unfair? Come on. You implied that the Bermuda groups here are part of a “campaign of dishonesty” that is “literally killing people” and alluded to this atrocity in Orlando.
It isn’t much of a stretch to see the emotional rhetorical work here. Let go of the hyperbole and you will win over far more Bermudians to your point of view.
I see what you are saying, I do. But simply “othering” another human being, which is something that every adult has to deal with in any free society worth its salt (we tolerate O-Juice on this forum, and s/he is a reliable treat on race relations), can’t be equated with slippery slope support for mass murder. And the older folks who I bump into who are uncomfortable about the prospect of a Yes-Yes vote don’t generally feel the way they do out of hate or rage for homosexuals.
Re threats and disgust towards gays in Bermuda, we’ve seen threats of violence against those who aren’t for gay marriage *in the US*, too. “Thought crimes” cut both ways.
Don’t you think it would be unfair to write as though even the most strident and unpleasant pro-SSM marriage activists, who support the same side of the debate I do, are “sending the same message” as a violent fool like Floyd Lee Corkins?
You are never wrong Mike!! YOU KNOW ALL!!! EVERYONE TWISTS YOUR WORDS AROUND….BECAUSE MIKE IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND HE KNOWS EVERYTHING! WHY HAVENT YOU FIGURED OUT ALL THIS TIME THAT YOU ARE A FAILED MUSICIAN OR NOISE MAKER IN YOUR CASE, OR WILL YOU BLAME IT ON PEOPLE CLAIMING THEY DONT KNOW MUSIC….BECAUSE MIKE KNOWS ALL!!
Settle down.
How about addressing the things I say, rather than stamping your feet like a child about me?
Wait a minute.
I just reread this and am wide-eyed at the ignorance shown here.
A failed musician?
First off, what does that have to do with ANYTHING?
Secondly, how am I a failed musician? I work regularly, am in demand, both here and overseas. I just released a new album of original songs that is getting some pretty good reviews. I won Best of Bermuda for 2015 in the Musician category.
Sure, I’m not the best musician out there. I’ve only been playing for about 6 years, but I do ok. There will always be better musicians, but that simply doesn’t mean I’m “FAILED”.
You really need to take a look at yourself and your motivations, because this puerile, screaming rant of an attack is just… well, it’s just nonsense.
Do better, man. Seriously. This is embarrassing.
What I find with these so called Christians that are protesting Same Sex Marrige is that on the one hand they claim that all people are loved by Jesus Christ and God, then they don’t like / can’t stand / hate gay people. From what I know about, Christ and God will not let these so called Christians through the Pearly Gates to Heaven.
Please do not be HATERS.
“Every individual is entitled to believe what they want…”
If by “they” you mean the Churches you are correct. They are there praying that every individual will believe what the Churches want. If you think for one minute that “they” actually believe in each individuals right to their own beliefs then you are seriously deluded.
While there at it why don’t they pray for the abolishion of the abolishion of slavery.
Just maybe they’ll understand what human rights mean.
Incredibly insensitive timing relative to the Orlando massacre.
This has been planned for a while. How is it insensitive? We prayed specifically for that situation- those poor people who lost their lives and their poor grieving family and friends.
And yet, you keep posting the same misinformation used to vilify and defame “those poor people who lost their lives” in an effort to keep the inequality that they are fighting to fix.
And yet, you refuse to engage with anyone who asks simple questions of you and your position.
Pray away, but you are part of the problem.
Just because people dont support your European Culture, you call it hate?
No, you bigoted idiot.
As has been explained to you many, many times, it’s a. Not European. Your view on this is. And b. It’s not about disagreeing, it’s about denying access to rights and provileges for no reason whatsoever.
Unless you’d like to offer one?
Or will this be like always where you say the same stupid garbage you always do, then get proved wrong, then you run away like a coward?
I’m guessing the latter.
What in the world does this have to do with the Orlando massacres. ….NOTHING…..Nothing…..what a bad comparison to make……apples and cheese
……please
All are entitled to pray for whatever they wish….or not pray at all….
The power of prayer is something some folks believe in while others do not…
We must learn to respect one another views and opinions. …
We must learn to disagree or agree with one another without been outright outrages .and rude…..really
We will not always share the same views…..but that what makes the world unique. ….
Love is greater than hate…..I choose Love over hate any day. ….
Much love to all
If you can’t see how this is linked, then you are part of the problem.
The Orlando massacre seems to have been caused by religous inspired homophobia. How can a parallel not be draw.
You seem to think that this is a simple difference of opinion. IT IS NOT. This is about one group seeking to deny another group their human rights and human dignity in the name of their religion. In Orlando that same dynamic of dehumanization taken to its logical extreme.
It’s not apples and cheese! The proper metaphor would be “it’s apples and APPLES”. The only real difference is the degree.
Think they need to read their bible..and not pick out the stuff that suits them.
How very appropriate! Standing there facing a wall, unable to see.
Well I love you for saying this MisterHunt….cudos and tiger!
We get it Bermuda. Homosexuals and the like are evil. They are demon possessed and need to be prayed for. God will destroy…..correction…. god will “withhold his blessings “from Bermuda if gays are allowed to join in civil unions.
You should have surrounded the KFC to pray away the sin of gluttony.
You are all homophobic.
Shame on you.
Bunch of homophobic religious nutters. I say the government tax the churches!
I agree. Churches are a potential gateway for money laundering.
There needs to be accountability, tax on income and regulation.
They take from the poor and to what…build grand palaces.
Ugh why is religion so oppressive???
The only love this group has is the love to hate.
Go stand in the corner you ignorant little religious bigots.
Dear Christain Prayer Vigilists:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your actions, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:
1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath.. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? – Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted fan, Jim.
Nice of you to copy and paste that and pass it off as your own.
If you really are interested in understanding the bible there are many resources to help you.
Would you care to answer the question of why you think other people should have to follow the rules of your personal choice of religion?
Or the question of whether or not you’ll be offering a single reason to oppose marriage equality?
Or the question of why you keep lying about having done so, when you know you haven’t?
Or the question of why you keep running away from simple questions?
Silence, as always. So quick to post when someone points out your hypocrisy and lies, but when asked the only important question, you disappear like the coward you are.
AGAIN MR KNOW IT ALL CHALLENGING SOMEONE ON THEIR BELIEFS BECAUSE THEY DIFFER FROM HIS! AGAIN CALLING PEOPLENAMES BECAUSE THEY DIDNT ANSWER” THE ONLY IMPORTANT QUESTION” AS HE STATES BECAUSE HE IS MIKE HIND,MR KNOW IT ALL!! DID YOU CONSIDER THE REASON THEY DIDNT REPLY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LIFE…SOMETHING YOU DESPERATELY NEED!! YOU ARE THE ONLY COWARD IN HERE!!
And yet, you won’t offer a single argument as to why we should continue denying equal access to rights to Bermudians.
Nope. You chose to throw a tantrum instead.
Well done. You’re hurting people.
please tell me what religion says ssm is OK. ……NONE
Why does it matter what religion says when we’re talking about a legal matter?
They’re all superstitious bs anyway. You might as well believe in little green teapot men.
Most people will recognize this as the famous “Dr Laura letter”. That doesn’t negate the message.
As a young woman, I would like to tag on some questions to Jim’s if I may!
1) Timothy 2:12 tells me “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent”- should I quit my job where I have men under my authority and stop tutoring my younger brother, or should I just stop talking all together, just to be safe?
2) My neighbors are really annoying me, so should I do as Samuel tells me and “not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey”, or is killing their donkey just excessive? How long will I be held in a cell before the police understand my side of the story?
3) Euteronomy 23:2 tells me that none of my friends who’s parents were not married when they were born, or who for the last 10 generations have had any ancestor born out of wedlock, can be part of the lord’s congregations. How can I get around this planning my annual Church bonanza where I invite all of my friends born in sin, to come to a vigil at my local church?
4) When my son is naughty, should I throw stones at him, as Psalm 137:9 commands me to? How do I explain that to Child Services, so that I can continue to throw stones at him in the future, in order to endure his piety? Also, how big should these stones be? Boulder sized or pebbles? Somewhere in-between?
5) When my friend, who has a child already, marries her fiancée, should it be a communal affair as we stone her all the way back to her fathers house until she dies? He live in California, so could you give me some tips on stoning people on planes, and getting socks through airport security? I would hate to be stopped and defy Deuteronomy 22: 20-21!
6)Leviticus- “if he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.” Again, my Church vigil, what if any of my friends are sunburnt, or have acne? Is the whole thing off again?
7) Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman”- Clearly, we don’t need prison sentences for rape, just more marriages! Why can’t government understand this? What shall we do about this clear waste of judicial budget? Who should I call to fix this?
8) The other day, my friend stubbed his toe and took the Lord’s name. Should stoning him to death (Leviticus 24:16) be a communal affair or should it be more private? Again, these stones! What size should I be looking for? Limestone or gravel? Big or small?
Prayers, thank you for all you help, and clearly not choosing to intemperate the bible selectively! I look forward to your swift, and detailed reply!
what you should do is stop reading that stupid book
the people who the Creator is referring to , to keep the covenant and statutes and laws are the children of Israel(Jacob) who have been put in captivity so although it is impossible to keep all the laws we are encouraged to remember the covenant(Deuteronomy 28:15) we were warned(our ancestors) that if we followed other gods than the curses would befall us, and so we are now in the land of out captors because of past sins.. If you are sincere about being obedient to your Creator then seek Him with sincererty in His words is the path of Light..The covenant does not apply to all people and therefore some will not be judged based on them but judgement is for all for what they do as well as far as murdering slaves, stealing their land, and rejoicing in our affliction and not for helping each other based on being neighbours sexual or otherwise.. The Word is no joke so if you treat it that way the joke may be on you.
But what is the path of light?
Surely a book that justifies slavery, subjugation of women, and physical abuse is not something that we as a modern society can condone.
Obviously people can believe what they like, but they shouldn’t go preaching to the world about how THEY are in the right because of a book written 3500 years ago (and everyone else is going to tear this country apart), when they themselves don’t follow everything in that book. They should not claim righteousness is they aren’t doing everything that apparently we all should be doing, as told to us in ‘the good book’.
More religious arguments.
Are you saying that everyone should have to follow your bible’s rules and teachings?
Preserve marriage group = HATE
Shame on all of you!
It is a hate group, blinded by ignorance.
Are you ignorant and weak willed? If so, then they will happily take advantage of you.
There is your evil people, not those who they seek to make suffer.
There is no god ,you are all brainwashed fools
There is a God and God is nicer than these people make him out to be. I am a Christian and I support marriage, all marriage, M-F, M-M or F-F. He is a loving God. As pointed out above, some people will take the parts of the Bible that suits their personal agenda.
They are hypocrites by their own scriptures.
Matthew 6:5-6
”
5. And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
6. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
”
But these people appear to be accustomed to ignoring the parts of their holy book that doesn’t agree with whatever they feel like doing.
Ride
Love wins when people change the goal post.
The appalling lack of sensitivity of this vigil speaks volumes about the leaders and people involved. You could not be more ignorant, unfeeling and unChristian to proceed with such a misguided vigil on the day that over 50 people are gunned down out of religious hatred.
Go suck an egg
Its because of people like you that we have this mass murder in Orlando today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Biblical illiteracy on display here. This does not mean you should not pray in public at all ever. Jesus did exactly this. It means that IF you pray in public you should not do it for those reasons.
Unless you are God and you know the motives and intentions of the heart of each person there yesterday, then I suggest you not make such confused statements
I’m not sure what they’re praying for.
They DO get that people aren’t going to force them to do anything, right?
They won’t have to marry someone of the same sex, they won’t have to perform weddings… they won’t have to do anything.
Well, other than stop discriminating for absolutely no reason.
Unless someone supporting Preserve Marriage would like to offer a reason?
Anyone?
Are you married?? Conversations and arguments must be one way in your household as you know ALL!! Why does ones belief always has to be debated with YOU!! Why are you always right and everyone else who disagrees are wrong? You are the biggest HYPOCRITE because now your playing GOD!! Are you trying to be the LGTBQFH Hero….in need of fans to listen too your painful voice and little instrument?
So brave, making ad hominems while hiding like a weak and craven coward behind a pen name! You must be so proud of yourself, speaking out against someone while cowering in the shadows like a worm.
Well done.
How about answering a simple question?
Or is that not part of your courageous stand?
I’m not trying to be an lgbt hero. Not at all.
But I WILL stand up for what is right and will speak out against injustice.
The question is: why aren’t you? Why aren’t you speaking out for your beliefs? Why are you hiding?
If you think this is getting me fans, you have no idea how this works! I’ve received more hate mail for speaking out than you’ll ever know.
As for my voice? You don’t like it, don’t come to my shows. No one is forcing you.
Truth hurts!?! I never called you a name so why do you have to resort to name calling?? BTW you never answered my questions” MR KNOW IT ALL MIKE WHO HAS ALL THE ANSWERS” Must be lonely at night being Mike!
I GUESS WEARE ALL COWARDS IN HERE BECAUSE I SEE EVERYONE HAS A PEN NAME BESIDES MR KNOW IT ALL MIKE HIND…THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS YOU ARE TARGETING ME BECAUSE I SPOKE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU AND ITS EATING YOU UP!! I DONT EVEN KNOW YOU BUT BY YOUR RESPONSE I HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!! BTW I AM NOT HIDING JUST BECAUSE I USE A PEN NAME, I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT ABOUT MY BELIEFS AND I WILL DO THE SAME THE NEXT TIME I SEE YOU…I BET YOUR TONE WILL CHANGE!
Yeah. There are other people using pen names.
But they have the decency to not make stupid, false, personal attacks instead of actually engaging like you do. That’s why you are a coward. You hide your identity while trying to spread lies about someone better than you. And yes. I am better than you. I’m not a coward and I don’t lie and I don’t freak out when someone questions my position like you do. You are acting like a petulant child.
I’m not targeting you, I responded to your personal attack. Should I not have? You know how this works, right? You say something, I respond, you respond to that… that’s called conversation. Replying to your post isn’t targeting you.
Making a screaming, insane and false ad hominem for no reason or because you don’t like what I have to say? THAT is targeting.
As for your thinly veiled (and all caps) threat about “the next time I see you”…
I’m sure you won’t actually have an argument that will stand up.
If you did, you’d post it here.
But you don’t and won’t. It’ll just be more puffing up of your chest and posturing.
Come on. Give us a reason to support you. Just one. Give us one single reason that we should continue treating LGBT Bermudians and those that they love as less worthy of rights than the rest of us.
Come on.
Absolutely rediculos
There wasn’t one word of hate in anything reported by Mr Hunt. Additionally, the Preserve Marriage group are demonstrating their love for those who oppose and asking God’s guidance for those that govern our country. This is in accordance with Biblical instruction. The only vile hatred I read is from those who oppose this initiative. GOD IS LOVE 1John4:8
Not at all.
The vile hatred is from these people praying that they be allowed to force the government to deny equal access to rights and privileges.
They are saying that certain Bermudians are not worthy of access to these rights.
They are saying that these Bermudians are not equal.
They are saying that these Bermudians are less than them.
And they are doing it without offering a single reason. Not one single, honest, defensible reason.
Not once.
That is vile and it is hatred.
No one will stop them from living their lives in accordance to their Biblical instruction.
But to demand that the rest of us do is is unfair and unjust.
This isn’t about putting anybody down (worthiness, equality or being less than). These are simply people who fear the eternal God who has recorded through numerous historical Biblical examples that demonstrate the ramifications of a society which allows the behaviors you espouse. Surely you can understand that IF you believed and reverenced a higher power you would do likewise. Let’s try and be understanding of each other’s points of view without all the hate speech. These folks love the gay community as does their Savior Jesus. He loved them so much that he died on the cross so that they can have the option to choose redemption. We are ALL in need of this salvation through Christ Jesus. There is a spiritual battle for our souls and the Bible foretold that these days would come. No surprise here – further validation of the Holy Scriptures.
But… this is a religious argument!
Are you saying that your personal choice of religions, and its taboos, laws and restrictions, should take precedent over someone else’s life? Over our society’s laws?
Are you? I’m asking very seriously. Are you saying that your belief system should have an effect on someone else’s life, relationship or happiness?
If so, I have to ask, knowing full well that you will not respond to it, whether you would be ok with someone else’s personal choice of religion’s rules, taboos and restrictions having an effect on your life. Would you be ok with the laws of Islam being forced on you? Or Hinduism? Or Judaism?
You open with “This isn’t about putting anybody down (worthiness, equality or being less than)”, but that’s exactly what this is about. You seem to believe that your “historical Bible” means that you can treat people as less that equal. And that’s what you’re doing by promoting the denial of equal access to rights. We ARE talking about equality.
But certainly, you’re getting closer to giving a reason for denying equal access to rights!
If there IS historical examples and precedent showing ramifications for that happened in societies that had marriage equality, that would certainly be a good reason to not allow folks to get married.
Can you give some historical examples where there were ramifications from marriage equality?
I’d love to see them!
and are you saying that if an ass wants to be a rabbit than it should be able to even if the law of nature does not allow? SIGH>>
This is nonsense.
Of course I’m not saying that. No one is saying that. Stop talking rubbish and TRY to have a decent conversation, please.
Changing species has nothing to do with marriage equality.
You’re losing your mind.
Odd that you didn’t put up and historical ramifications… or even a single reason we should continue denying Bermudians equal access to rights.
Why is that?
What the hell does this have to do with what is being talked about? answer Mike’s questions or just don’t post
Hatred does not only have to be expressed by words. More often it’s expressed by actions. Praying to God, asking Him to deny a minority access to secular rights IS an act of hate! The only real difference between the actions of these people and the killer in Orlando is the magnitude of the action.
Another unfortunate false assumption. The killer in Orlando was an ISIS militant who expressed his hatred for Americans. Reports are that he was gay himself. People are now using this sad and horrendous act to somehow suggest that anybody who disagrees with their lifestyle wants them dead. This is not the case. The folks praying for you want you to live your best life; life eternal with Jesus. God IS LOVE
this is all wrong, you this know that right?
And on such a beautiful day, instead of looking to (God’s) blue sky, you stare at a wall and turn your back on (God’s) people in protest of some of his misunderstood work. Shamefully sad and two-faced. Read that to be TwO-FACED. Please don’t aks me to come to your church. With a smile, I’ll be enjoying the free and loving life God himself offers up for me. Be blessed, for you know not what you do.
Oh. When I first saw the picture I thought they were praying for what happened in Florida. I was wrong
We prayed for that also
So then, it IS a noble thing. Why the demonstration, then, against some of God’s misunderstood work?
Those folks would NEVER do that. It’s too much about themselves than anything else.
Again – not true. Throughout the island, the churches have been praying for the situation in Florida. The event on Sunday was planned long before the shooting event and when word was received of the overnight events, churches throughout the country and the Preserve Marriage group prayed and sought the help and comfort of the Holy Spirit for those friends and family that remain and were impacted by this terrorist activity. I’m telling you what I heard with my own ears. Please stop with the lies
Did you also hear where they prayed that Bermudians that were like the victims should continue to be denied equal access to rights, privileges and freedoms afforded by marriage, for no reason?
God commands us to love allow them to marry one another.
And welcome lovingly married black gays back to Bermuda. They have left because they are unable to live the life they want at home.
where does God command us to ‘love” and what is the context of that scripture..that is what is important not interpretation of ones own understanding which makes people err in judgement.The scriptures hold mysteries and can be solved by them that seek the truth rather than looking for agreement for behavior from the Most High.
Another religious argument.
but they shouldn’t used to block other people from having the same rights as you. After all you choose that religion why should it effect me who has rejected it?
And if your going to force us to all kneel to christianity then what version we going to follow? Evangilcal?Catholic? 7th Day? Mormans?
Religiotards!
We should go pray that churches start paying taxes or maybe have a refurendum on that
Love the way they hide their faces in shame
Prayer works !
To bad they are not up there for all the shootings that is happening in this country. Don’t hear anything from them about that and that is harming the community a lot more.
Further lack of knowledge. The churches don’t brag about how they help this group and the other but I know for a fact that the churches have been there right alongside the families of these shooting victims in the community. Maybe OMG is too far removed from the frontline to know the facts. If you don’t know – ask somebody. Stop with the lies
I think what frustrates marriage equality supporters is that issues that literally damage families such as gun crime, robberies or road traffic fatalities, pressure groups didn’t form up, get tons of donations, advertise vigorously, publicly campaign non-stop over a period of months to draw attention. However, the topic of marriage equality was enough to mobilize a large section of the community. in rapid time. The suggestion that it’s gays getting married that will cause social upheaval instead of the aforementioned, would seem ludicrous. Why is it this singular issue, which doesn’t hinder the activities of other people like the aforementioned, that gets people riled up to such a massive degree?
My wife and I were married at a Registrar’s office. Religion had nothing to do with it. So why do these people think they have some sort of *lock* on the institution of marriage? Do they feel they have control over my marriage? If so, why?
No religious organization is trying to control the institution of marriage. Marriage is intended (based on God’s Word) to be a reflection of the Godhead (made in the “image/reflection” of God). Your beef is not with the religious organizations, it is with the eternal living God of Creation. Nobody around here wrote those words – we just believe it to be true. We call it FAITH
no. It’s not.
Marriage is a legal construct, with rights and privileges granted.
Your “reflection of the Godhead”, a religious construct, will in no way be affected by what we’re talking about.
I wonder if atheist are allowed to marry…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5YU_spBw0
“That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah”
“Nobody will stone anybody until I blow this whistle”
Quite simply the best depiction of the madness that is organized religion around. Love that movie.
Same sex marriage does not affect anyone’s daily life other than the lovely couple getting married! Canada has had same sex marriage for over a decade and people still get on with their daily life no matter gay or straight and all without knowing who is getting married!
Hey folks, i am glad you are joined together sharing in prayer as i am told it can bring happiness and fulfillment to some.On another Note: peoples love life and Marriage is none of your business.We will all know if god exists soon enough so in the mean time stop hurting our friends and family.
Simple question, why can’t Gay people just ask forgiveness for getting married when they die like everyone else. Like the single parents, the sex before marriage crowd, the people who gave up their slaves, the people who eat shrimp, who farm more then one crop, people with tattoos, people who got divorced, people who married people of other races, women who talk out of turn etc.?
Why do all the other sinners get to sin and use the get out of jail free card but gay people can’t?
It would seem the photo caption should have been “Wall of the Hypocrites”