PLP: ‘Condemns All Acts Of Vandalism’
The Progressive Labour Party has condemned the anti-PLP graffiti which has popped up at various locations over the island, saying, “Any form of graffiti is an unacceptable violation of the Bermudian people’s respect for the environment in all its forms; a betrayal of the respect the world has for this aspect of the character of our island.”
Painted in either green and orange and standing approximately 12in tall, the graffiti mimics the ‘Calvin’ cartoon, and depicts a cartoon figure urinating on the PLP acronym. A photo of the graffiti has been making the rounds via Blackberry instant messenger over the last few days.
The photos in this article were taken in White Sands Road in Paget and Vesey Street in Devonshire, where the graffiti remains as of this writing. At least two incidents of the graffiti can be found in a residential neighborhood. The location is close to the residence of a PLP Minister, whether that is by design or co-incidence is unclear. Reports suggest it may have also painted on other locations around the island including a Post Office and an Island Construction sign in Devonshire, but has since been painted over at those locations.
In response to our query a PLP spokesperson said, “The Progressive Labour Party condemns all acts of vandalism. Any form of graffiti is an unacceptable violation of the Bermudian people’s respect for the environment in all its forms; a betrayal of the respect the world has for this aspect of the character of our island.”
“In a heightened politicised environment there are always people who act with or without instruction. The PLP takes the high road; we do not encourage our members or supporters to negatively target the opposition.”
“We believe that our focus is to serve and act to advocate policies that are geared to addressing the people’s needs – not wasting time in negative political mischief. Bermuda needs to move forward together when times are hard – not engage in cannibalistic and immature tendencies.”
“We call on all political parties, support groups and private individuals to resist the temptation to resort to the degrading political practices of smear, negative imagery and cheap character assassinations, and to join the PLP in engaging in a campaign that is creative, positive , informative and upholds the dignity and respect we have for our system of governance and for those who hold or seek public office,” concluded the spokesperson.
No guessing as to what sector of society is responsible for this.
Probably the same ones who vandalized Jeff Sousas UBP campaign poster during the 2007 election in Warwick?
Or maybe the ones who trashed Wayne Furbert’s poster in Shelly Bay during the 2007 election. IT IS A SHAME THAT THE PLP ONLY SPEAK UP WHEN IT HAPPENS TO THEM. OTHERWIZE THERE IS SILENCE. Be balanced.
Ahhhhh!
Haha
lol the anti-plp sector?
We didn’t have to guess who scraped QLQ in the grass at Mid Ocean just prior to the master’s tournament a few years ago either.
The sector that’s responded to my comment……dead give-away!
Thats is exactly what the person who did it wants you to think I’m sure. It’s just like the bullets ment to concrete the votes with the use of negative stereotypes my money is on the PLP or someone not happy from the PLP at the worst but I’m sure we’ll never know but I expect more just before the election.
LOL
Paranoia: is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs concerning a perceived threat towards oneself. Historically, this characterization was used to describe any delusional state.
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And look there is a picture of you right next to it. I see your still hung up on your color issue. Nice.
LOL
Indeed, it strikes one that “BETRAYAL” is the one thing at which the present PLP hierarchy are expert
A PLP spokesperson said, “The Progressive Labour Party condemns all acts of vandalism. Any form of graffiti is an unacceptable violation of the Bermudian people’s respect for the environment in all its forms; a betrayal of the respect the world has for this aspect of the character of our island.”
this is childish
“We call on all political parties, support groups and private individuals to resist the temptation to resort to the degrading political practices of smear, negative imagery and cheap character assassinations,…”
This after a government minister makes a racial slur in the House and the Speaker of the House says that he doesn’t feel it is out of order. SMDH!!!
Oh come on…everyone knows that the UBP and/or OBA and white people in general all nothing but “neo-fascists that want to lock us (black people) up. It is true you know!”
I mean it must be true because a PLP candidate told me so in the last election campaign.
And such statements can’t be smear, cheap character assasinations or a degrading political practice…if it’s true…
Sort of like how a former Premier called an opposition member a “racist dog” and then threatened physical violence against the individual.
Funny sh*t and short term memories…
But I must give credit where credit is due as Premier Cox has reigned in such divisive and nasty rhetoric spewed by the usual suspects. At least she is trying and credit must be afforded to her for such efforts…
You are very true with this!!! Well said
Its gotta be a Manchester United supporter…they do this stuff to Liverpool fans all the time.
WOW! Eff Man U first of all. Second, don’t feel yourselves too much, you only have 1 more title than we (Liverpool) do.
ya…Man Utd remmind me of the old UBP….lol….FYI, I’m a Liverpol fan….
Ok Lol, my mistake
Liverpool hasn’t won a title in over 20 years. In those same 20 years, Man United has won 12 titles, by-passing Liverpool’s overall total of 18. United now have 19 titles and mamy many more to come… and Liverpool will still be stuck on 18 for another 20 years, LOL!!! I would be ashamed and embarrassed to call myself a Liverpool fan..
Manchester United we stand.
Back to the topic… Any form of graffiti is an unacceptable violation of the Bermudian people’s respect for the environment in all its forms… unless it looks good.
I’m out!
Ya Boy, Black Jesus.
One Love.
Lets listen out for the Leader of the Opposition and Michael Dunkley and Trevor Moniz’s responses. Waiting with baited breath.
@ Bernews
It’s just a joke, you don’t have to spend an hour moderating over what I said. Jeesh.
It was up in 5 mins actually, as the time stamp shows. Slight delay as I was doing the ball hockey post.
I was just teasing, but I stillnotice that it wasn’t posted. Sometimes I just like to see what I can and can’t get away with Lol
Did anyone from the PLP respond to Jeff’s UBP campaign poster last election?
LOL double standards much guess it’s ok when it’s not targeting your party.
Agreed…wrong is wrong!
If we went independent we’d finally be free so nobody would need to write of this graffiti stuff. All our problems would vanish – POOF!
That’s the dumbest thing I’m heard today: Independence = no graffiti? I don’t know why they don’t take down all that other graffiti all over the place when someone has died at a particular spot. Disgusting. Show some respect.
pretty sure that was sarcasm… at least i hope it was.
What’s up with all the broken sarcasm detectors on Bernews???
Childish enough yes, but freedom of expression plays a role here, and you can tell that instead of this person, writing a letter to express thereself they took it upon themselves to grafiti the wall. But in some sense it may only take grafiti like this for the PLP to hear what we have to say at the end of the day. Grafiti in other parts of the world play a critical part in society. Although, the question is, why would people want to vandalise there community with art work, it is still a form of expression, of what the artist thinks, it being about his local government. By all means, next time do it on paper. But I hope the PLP get the message, that majority of us feel this way about our government. So if it took the newspaper to spot it and write it, then it served its purposed. Wake up PLP! but by the end of the it must come down.
i would hardly call this the majority. even those that may be disillusioned probably don’t condone this behavior or what it represents.
condone or not, this is what got a response needed. i can’t count how many people are displeased with the PLP and have been overlooked when they chose to protest, extremists seem to be the only people noticed and heard. sad.
Condone it or not, its a statement. You will find that a lot of protest end in violence. You see it in the Middle-east as we speak. In sense this is a non-violent tactic. And they are right. It served its pupose. It got some Media attention, People are commenting on it. Someone in the PLP is reading it as we speak, and has a viewpoint about it. Its a simple tactic, and its getting response. So Condone or not, your comment is even making a statement.
Political ART…..better to paint over it and pay attention to the message without saying a word^^
Its about time we started an anti PLP movement, The PLP have done nothing but s**t on the people who put them in power. Bermuda is in a worse state then ever , The PLP have don’t nothing more than parade round on tax payers dollars, and showboating their achievements that has done nothing for the good of Bermuda, will never get my vote again. Bunch of thieves
statements like these, especially with pen-names such as yours are generally shown to be falsehoods. You are likely to have never voted PLP.
” You are likely to have never voted PLP.”
statements like these, especially with pen-names such as yours are generally shown to be falsehoods.
Maybe you should be concerned that he/she DID vote PLP.
you got it so wrong this time…I only put black for people with racial thoughts like you.
Yeah right! Anti-PLP??? With such stupidity I not only doubt that you voted for PLP, I doubt you voted at all. The only thing ‘black’ about you is the rum you’re drinking! Nice try! you FAIL!
Ah, the racist political smear the PLP is speaking against in this very story.
There it is.
Let’s see if any pro-PLP folks speak out against this one…
Regardless of the poor way to show freedom of speech. it is Showing you how some people feel.
The PLP takes the high road; we do not encourage our members or supporters to negatively target the opposition.
1. You never thought you’d have to answer to the sons of slaves
2. A vote for them is a return to plantation
3. House slaves
4. etc etc…
High road? Ya right!
The OBA aren’t hypocrites no no no.
Crockwell, Pettingil and Hunte should resign because they were elected UBP.
Dunkley: Internationl business does not owe Bermuda Nothing
Gibbons: Called Dr. Brown, Enich (balless man)
Barritt: oh yes we can’t print what he says
Not sure where the OBA comes into this. Is this story about the OBA’s denunciation of graffiti and political smears? Did someone say that they WEREN’T hypocrites?
Oh, wait. You’re just defending with an offense, ignoring the actual point that the PLP are being hypocritical with their reaction to this. I note that you haven’t spoken about that…
Lawyered!!! Lol
Not really… just using common sense.
It’s kind of sickening when people have no better defense than to attack and deflect.
It doesn’t help anything.
UncleElvis – just responding to Hypocrites, that is where OBA comes into fair play. over zealous official opposition painting the town is wrong.
Pointing out that the OBA is hypocritical is NOT a response to someone pointing out that the PLP is. It’s just not. If the OBA had made a hypocritical statement about ethics or taking the higher ground (and yes, I do agree with you that those would be hypocritical, and that they should have given up their seats when they left the UBP), then you might have a point. But to just lash out like this because someone is shocked at the PLP’s hypocricy, after the behaviour of so many PLP members and supporters is just wrong.
And do you have evidence that the OBA or its supporters were behind this graffiti, or are you just assuming that, because it’s anti-PLP it must be the OBA?
LOL i saw one at a park near Tuckers Point Entrance… it was sprayed on a W&E Truck. And i couldnt help but laugh. I dont think it should have been done but its funny none the less.
yeah …. i think its fine to have the image posted all over..shows how some people feel…. but i’d say on permanent structures, esp govt property, is a bit too far..
I saw one this morning just pass Pure Water. I didn’t notice what he was pi**ing on. Oh dear …
I definitely agree that graffiti of this type isnt a good thing.. .as it is indeed graffiti, its a bit tasteless, and does create more conflict then it helps..
on that note though, should we expect the premier to say “Any form of graffiti is an unacceptable violation of the Bermudian people’s respect for the environment in all its forms;” when people start painting up areas because of loved ones who have died in accidents? That graffiti happens every few months..
just to note, my point is NOT that peopel should not be able to graffiti names of their loved ones (albeit on sheets is probably a better option), my point is that it is not the actual graffiti that the premier is objecting, it is the nature of the graffiti she is objecting, but she’s dancing around actually saying it.
“PLP” is an initialism, not an acronym.
“we do not encourage our members or supporters to negatively target the opposition.”
Since when? This must be a new rule…
and if it is new, wouldn’t it be a good thing?
..if
It would be a GREAT thing, if it is true…
Based on experience, and on some of the posts here, it’s not true.
“Negatively target[ing] the opposition” has been the entirety of the PLPs strategy for over a decade now.
I’d love it if they were changing that, but I’m not holding my breath.
I actually saw two white/portuguese kids on a bike riding around by crystal caves with what I believed to be a spray can…I payed it littlen attention at the time because I was working…
They were looking rather suspicious too..
Yeah, sure you did ..
I beleive you Ganja mon. Simply because I know that black Bermudians will never NOT vote or support the PLP, as long as the PLP play the race card Lol
@think. The only person playing the race card daily is you. Get over it!!!
Secondly, why should black Bermudians vote ubp/boa? After all they done for 40 years? Smfh
Because the PLP are destroying Bermuda?
13 years of PLP failure?
Fewer jobs?
Huge debt?
Increased violence?
Broken down ferries?
No new hotels?
Industrial unrest?
Fewer tourists?
………………………….I could go on.
In other words:
The reason to vote for the UBP/OBA is that they aren’t the PLP.
Not the strongest platform, but it’s one that’s worked for the PLP for over a decade.
It’s almost like a scene from Monty Python…
“What have the Romans ever down for us…”
Well, the roads were good, it was safe to walk the streets at night, the economy was strong….
Your probably too old to realize but the reason for this gang problem is because of cedarbridge aca. That was the UBP idea to obv. Create a gang culture like the US.
Your revisionist idea of ‘educational history” is flawed. Although implemented under the UBP, the idea of “mega-schools” came out of a cross party, cross community review that was endorsed by the then in opposition PLP. In fact, the current education minister was on the cttee that made the recommendations.
Why does it have to be portuguese kids?! chances are this was done at night when the persons couldnt be seen… dont turn this grafitti issue into something bigger! im offended!
besides dont those bright colors look just like the colors government workers use to spray paint on trees or pavement right before they start working on them?! Just Saying!
Damn UBP……….
Suspiciously, there is always something like this that happens in an election year. It is a brilliant (though overused) method to energize the PLP base if the underlying story line is that a UBP/OBA supporter did it… once again reinvigorating the us versus them, i.e., black v white battle… and it will work, again.
As a young black Bermudian, it amazes me that these are the types of things that win elections… where we as voters exercise our power by voting our emotions rather that using our intellect.
I think that we can all agree that if those who are in power want to remain in power, they must do everything they can to achieve this. With that said, it would not be in the PLP government’s best interest to resolve the race issue, ever. Why would they, when they can can create a massive debt, cut funding for schools, waist tax payer money, hire overpaid consultants, bring in Uhigurs, etc.—and erase all of that with one racial statement or picture. IF this was masterminded by a PLP operative, then we need to realize that we are being manipulated for their gain. IF race is the central issue in the next election (60% black; 30% white; 10% other), then you do the math!
Vote on the issues or don’t vote at all.
This needs to be spray painted around Bermuda instead.
The Pisser has an invisible penis ; about as much as the combined opposition .
What’s the problem? The little fella was just depositing his P with the other PP! L…no offence to the PLP!
WHO THE HELL CARES….a little act of graffiti will not decide my vote!
So the graffiti is unacceptable behaviour … also the ‘High Road’ speech that inevitable follows is equally insulting coming from supposedly intelligent non-vandals. Both sides have supporters willing to misbehave. Take UBP candidate Jeff Sousa for example. In December 2007 he paid for and put up his signs in Warwick…. Someone scrubbed out Mr. Sousa’s face and wrote ‘PLP’ across one of the signs in green spray paint. He also declared he would take the ‘High Road’ What the hell is that supposed to mean? When asked to comment, why not just say “We don’t think that’s a very nice thing to do…” Instead we get a lecture complete with the insinuation the opposition was the vandal, and a claim to piety. Please reread the language of the PLP response… Eloquent speeches and the ability to turn any event in your favour is not going to fix anything…. Are we actually paying someone to write these speeches?
Yoo gutt det rite ACE………bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
What is “Playing the Race Card”? Often many tend to accuse the PLP of “Playing the Race Card”. But the race card is also played by other political parties as well, but often goes unnoticed. There also appears to be a growing trend today, especially among whites and a few black Bermudians to embrace the idea of “colorblindness” in race relations. I’m referring to efforts at more literal colorblindness whereby people claim that they don’t even so much as notice the race of other people around them.
Have you ever had a conversation like the fictional one above, in which the person you’re talking to (or maybe you yourself) hesitated before using race to describe someone? Or maybe avoided mentioning race altogether? Even when doing so is the obvious way to disambiguate that it is you’re trying to describe? This is the type of colorblindness I’m describing.
I recall reading observations of Janet Schofield, a psychologist who once conducted a study of a junior high school in which the teachers went to almost comical lengths to avoid any mention of race in the classroom. She reported the amazing story that one of the students she talked to was surprised to learn during an interview that Dr. King was Black, not White.
So what’s behind this effort to avoid acknowledging that we even notice racial difference? Typically, it’s the thought that if I don’t even notice race, then I know I can’t be called a racist. In other words, colorblindness has emerged in many circles as a safe way to sidestep the dicey topic of race. So if a PLP supporter even talks about race or issues related to race…they will in most cases be perceived by those individuals who lack a clear understanding of the “Colorblindness and underlying factors as “playing the race card. Even if the PLP never mentions race, they will still be suggested by others as playing the race card.
Nevertheless, what is often unknown by most is that white people probably use the race card as much as or maybe more than black people. Any time you say something they don’t like; time for the race card gets pulled out. Anything that tips the balance of power out of their favor, pull out the race card. They just refuse to recognize it. My thoughts are, if we must still discuss issues like this, we still have a long ways to go in Bermuda!
So… that makes it ok for the PLP to do it?
specialgirl4you
I must say that your post always seem to throw in big words and quote different sources but what you say truly makes no sense. All this talk of “color blindness” being just as bad as racism and giving your US examples adds nothing to this topic, to this feed or to the problems that Bermuda is facing. Furthermore your last quote “even if the PLP never mentions race they will be suggested by other as playing the race card” i must simply ask how do you know that? This is something that this party has tried to do in the elections since it got elected. I fail to understand why in all these posts you try and pretend like you hold all the secrets to the world “what is often unknown by most”? How dare you come up on these blogs and try and act like your smarter than the rest of us with your mix matched ramblings.
Some of what she says, I identify with. Colour Blind is supposed to refer to treating people equally irrespective of colour. However some people (mostly white I find) will accuse you of being racist for even acknowledging colour exists. To them it’s almost like if it isn’t mentioned it doesn’t exist. I tend to think blacks (and the PLP) play the race card more often. This is my opinion. It has more and different meaning if I mentioned I was black and PLP. Now to some people I’m racist…. go figure!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-sommers/what-does-it-really-mean-_b_875852.html
Read this link by Sam Somers
That’s because she copies and pastes things she does not understand from sources on the internet, which is Plagiarism! So how many more of her posts are cut and pasted to make her sound like she actaully knows what she is talking about. Hmmm I wonder?
Notice the difference in how good that Plagiarized statement’s grammar is and how bad some of the grammar in the rest of the comment is.
@Bermyman thanks for sharing that. I read the link you sent and it was strikingly familiar.
@specialgirl4u I often read your responses and find them to be contradicting. In this instance I am certain that you meant well with trying to use a “politically correct term” and the premise of your statement should have been founded on the alone. Clearly from the response above you offer no remedy to your own solution by advocating your support for the PLP so where is the colorblindness there?
Perhaps you should consider turning a blind eye instead. And just a small note I RECOMMEND READING COAL TO CREAM. For all bloggers, etc.
…. nice catch Bermyman.
There is a distsinct difference between talking about race and using race as an excuse for your actions and/or non-actions.
And claiming that if you vote for this party will result in black people being shackled and locked away on a plantation etc. is using the race card, no matter how you spin it.
It is actually quite Tea Partyesque (i.e. unfounded fear mongering based purely on emotions rather than reality)…how ironic
If Premier Cox really believes:
“We call on all political parties, support groups and private individuals to resist the temptation to resort to the degrading political practices of smear, negative imagery and cheap character assassinations”
Then why does she not come out as strenuously against her own MP who, as recently as last week, appeared free to make anti-semitic slurs on the floor of Parliament without any form of censure from the Speaker.
From: http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20110620/BUSINESS01/706189920
“Health Minister Zane DeSilva raised a point of order, pointing out Mr Richards had also said rent prices are falling, and accusing the Shadow Minister of “Jewing down”.
The hypocrisy of the PLP is astounding. Watch this space (or simply look at the pro-PLP posts above) because once the election is called everything that Premier Cox is calling for will be conveniently/purposefully forgotten and the politics of smear will return to the forefront yet again.
Apparently bigoted slurs and epithets are only bad when they’re about black folks.
“Jewing down”? Seriously? That’s ok?
It was noticable that there was no apology offered by Zane DeSilva for this disgusting racial slur either. Racial sensitivity apparently only is expected to apply one way.
Surprisingly there was also no rebuke from the Speaker of the House. Why not?
Also, why was the Minister of Health interested in rental prices in the first place? Is it because of his extensive property and building businesses?
Didn’t Minister Desilva apologize and withdraw his statements?
Would you accept an apology from an UBP or OBA member that used “blacking it up” as some sort of derogatory metaphor?
Didn’t think so…
Actually, no, the Minister did not apologize. Richards called a Point of Order on the use of a derogatory epithet. The Minister then agreed to withdraw his statement and the Speaker commented that he could withdraw it if he wished but that he didn’t see the reason for withdrawing it, ie, it wasn’t offensive to him.
No apology and only withdrawing when called on it. Yep, that’s racial maturity for you.
No, he withdrew it but did not apologise. And no rebuke from the Speaker. Interesting isn’t it.
Where can I get that stencil?!…..
Get over it like my god… slavery has been gone for how long now like lets be 4 real ya ya gimme all the sh$#t sayin it still goes on this way that way… um white and have jus as many black friends as i do white…like we both white and black when we talk bout this sh%t r jus like u ppl need to get over urselves if ur racist like come on its 2011 if ur white n u dont like black ppl leave d island str8 up its like 70% black ppl sooo….? ya n for u black ppl r racist suck it like most white ppl rnt racist ya u have some of the typical older generations who r racist but d youth rn’t so stop dwelling on the past whites and blacks time to wake d fu<k up… yes i voted when i was 18 for UBP for no reason other than thas wha my family voted for and guess what i wont vote again until ther is a decent party 2 vote for and um sure a lot of young bermudians feel the same way bcuz politics in bermuda for the most part are all corrupt and just there for bettering themselves like ppl wake up dont look at bermudians as black or white look at em as bermudians um 23 grow d fu<k up n maybe one day my generation will actually do sumin for d ppl of dis island have a gud party but until u all shut the fu<k up bout racism that wont happen cry me a river build a bridge n get over it SMFH
Ay LOOK bie,
what um wondrin is how come PLP is so vexed about this? if deres one thing that guyz need 2 know about marketing 101 (an trust me, i do all de advertising for my water trucking busness, so I kno), its that ANY PUBLICTY IS GOOD PUBLICTY…..WAKE UP PPL, HOW CAN U NOT C THIS? as long as the letters PLP r there, it dosent matter if guyz r pissin on it or if guyz are holdin it up in de air like a salisbury steak, u know?
My cousin Clean-Toes used to run a small bike repair shop out his garage up country…de only advertisin he had wuz a sign that said “Um Clean-Toes n I’ll fix ya bike, seen?” Guyz would always be like “Clean-Toes, dun, you should take out an ad in de gazette”, then he would get vexed n be like “NAH dun”. So then as a joke a couple mug bredrens decided to post a bunch of signs rond Somerset that said “Clean-Toes is mug at fixin’ bikes” and “Don’t take ya bike to Clean-Toes, cuz he’ll probly break it”. sounds mug, right?
…WRONG. GUESS WUT? CLEAN-TOES GOT MORE BUSINESS AFTER THAT THEN HE’D EVA HAD IN HIS LIFE. In fact, he got TOO much business. It got to de point that customers wuld be knocking at his door at 3 in de morning bein like “PLEASE, CLEAN-TOES, FIX MY BIKE”. Eventually he went crazy n had 2 go up St. Brendans, but thats besides de point.
my point through all this is dat de plp should embrace brand name recognition wherever they can get it, even if its thru a picture of a lickle yout peein on them. and you know why else its not all that bad? Becuz pee not only puts out fires, but cures jellyfish stings, and thats boasty.
just sayin, guyz need to think outside de box
Correction– and the quote is BAD PUBLICITY IS STILL PUBLICITY….
LOL.. Ur hilarious tho.. Thanks for this comment…
Young observer: Just your response to my comment, tells me that there is a lack of understanding of basic principles underlying the concept of “colour blindness” as it relates to concept of “playing the race card”. Referring to evidence-based research studies often help to support and explain such concepts, regardless of which country the study was conducted. In addition, it also helps substantiate and explain the meaning of something.
Past history is evidence enough that the PLP has been accused as the only party playing the race card. This is not true, and yet it often presented by vast media and certain individuals as such! It is my belief that is played more so by the UBP/OBA more so!! Reread….. Just the mere statement you make “How dare you come up on these blogs and try and act like your smarter than the rest of us with your mix matched ramblings!!” This in its self speaks volumes, as to say:
1.Your power-base has been tested. How dare you?
2.I enjoy at times adding a different and more insight perspective to the current issues of the day. I believe everyone has right to express how they view an issue, and should be able to do so freely.
3.Any person can share their perspectives, and provide a measured or objective assessment of a situation
4.I am surprised that as a mature individual, that you would view my discourse, as having all the answers to the world problems or Bermuda problems for that matter. But thanks for the compliment.
5.My comments, are meant to share my views on issues, I hold no bitter or disliked attitude towards no blogger. I support a particular party, like most Bloggers do…but I hold no contempt towards anyone’s views. Sharing of one another’s views is what makes the world go around. I will continue to do so!!! I am politically mature, and therefore do not feel in no way offended by any comments or personal opinions.
Finally, I make no apologies for perhaps presenting my views in a manner which may challenge one to reflect or think. Please look forward to my comments in the future, as I will add a few words whenever time permits. Feel the Love !!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-sommers/what-does-it-really-mean-_b_875852.html
Your views seem to be identical to someone elses. Copy and Paste maybe from the Huffington Post?
“Finally, I make no apologies for perhaps presenting my views in a manner which may challenge one to reflect or think. Please look forward to my comments in the future, as I will add a few words whenever time permits. Feel the Love !!”
No need to Apologize if their not your views!
No Bermyman,
I have never read the newspaper your are referring to, I don’t need to use anyone elses words, I believe my own vocabulary is extensive enough !! I have the ability to express my own thoughts and views on issues !! (So, I will not even look at the link !) I mention, that I would not apologize to suggest that I am extremely comfortable in what I express.
You’re kidding right? You posted this above:
“I recall reading observations of Janet Schofield, a psychologist who once conducted a study of a junior high school in which the teachers went to almost comical lengths to avoid any mention of race in the classroom. She reported the amazing story that one of the students she talked to was surprised to learn during an interview that Dr. King was Black, not White.”
The author (Sam Sommers)of the referenced articled said the following:
“As in the observations of Janet Schofield, a psychologist who once conducted a study of a junior high school in which the teachers went to almost comical lengths to avoid any mention of race in the classroom. She reported the amazing story that one of the students she talked to was surprised to learn during an interview that Dr. King was Black, not White.”
Without question you absolutely and unequivocally lifted someone else’s words and passed them off as your own. The saddest part is you still try to deny it. This is called, at best, intellectual dishonesty. I’ll leave it to to figure out what the “at worst” description would be.
32………..I will not continue to justifield, my statement, as I reviewed a study and summarized the findings in my own words. If you read any study or report, you might do the same thing. I also think by engaging in this form of discussion, is only another way to avoid dealing with the real issues. Often person will refer to an article or study to support a finding or to assist in justification of a position or a piont of view. I have enough intellectual skills to write and review, and do it on a regular basis. It may just be due to my skills in research writing style. I am confident in my abilities to write, and since this is not “102 research writing course”, I am also free to refer to certain studies in the form of free comments.
So lets not get side track from the real issues that is being discussed.
With the exception of the first three words, the two statements are verbatim copies of one another. Therefore, those three words out of an extract of 64 words means that the two are 95.3% the same.
As someone who used to read and grade documents at university, I can also tell you that inserting words like ‘I recall reading’ is a classic sign of a student who has lifted someone else’s work and who is trying to hide that fact. Reading the rest of your comments, you can see this technique in full display – little tweaks here and there.
Are you trying to suggest that it’s a mere coincidence that you and the author of the Huff Post piece read the same study? And chose the same words? And conjugated your verbs in the same manner? And employed the same syntax? And used paragraph breaks at precisely the same turning points in the passage to separate the same themes and ideas?
I don’t think anyone is commenting on your abilities to write. I think people just want you to be more intellectually honest. If you want people to take your ideas seriously, then I’m afraid you do have to justify yourself. I can certainly say that tons of people were expelled from our university for doing precisely what you’re doing here.
silly girl tricks are kids.
@sg4y: The ‘real issue’ is integrity. Trying to engage in a meaningful discussion where you misuse the words of others and cobble together an argument that contains inherent inconsistencies reflects an absence of integrity and clarity of thought.
“I am confident in my abilities to write, and since this is not “102 research writing course”, I am also free to refer to certain studies in the form of free comments”
I agree, this is an open forum for the exchange of ideas. However, one typically gives credit to their sources, especially when their words are transcribed verbatim.
Please note sarcasm:
She did remember she “I recalled reading studies by psychologist Janet Schofield.”
And that goes for every other post that has been penned by her. It is unethical rather… Furthermore, I find she is deliberate in her attempts to offer a recommended study, coupled with a baseless remedy whilst showing blatant bias for the PLP.
What’s the point?? There is no neutral or common ground for such theoretical implications.
So, your whole argument is “Well, the OBA/UBP do it, too!” with regards to “playing the race card”? Is that it?
I notice you never address, even though you seem to admit, the PLP’s use of “the race card” – or even address the USE of “the race card” – , only mention that others do it.
Interesting, that…
Interesting that you’d bring it up in this thread, too… not sure why you’d do that…
@specialgirlnotforme
my wonderings about you have been proven correct by the people of bernews! You do nothing but copy and paste articles and then insert a PLP here and there in it, I have checked some of your other posts and they too have the same thing. One needs only to read your reply to me to see more mix matched ramblings as you try and stick in a big word here and there to try and make yourself seem smarter. Lets just be clear copying and pasting isnt reflecting your thoughts or presenting your views but rather that of someone else. If youd like to add to the conversation how about thinking of something to say for yourself instead someone elses. you truly are something “special”
PLP will still win … haha
Sadly, you’re absolutely right.
As mentioned earlier in the thread, it seems like the UBP/OBA’s sole platform is “Well, we’re not the PLP…”
Not good enough.
@ J says: Everyone needs to go back and re-read his post..he’s on to something. “Black Ops” anyone?
@ Clafe says: You are freakin hilarious! Luv the post.
Step Down PLP..!!!
i think it funny as hell. they forgot to mention the ones in spanish point!
HAHA THAT’S WAT THEY GET. PLP ARE FAKE ANYWAYS.
the plp should be glad it’s just a depiction but in some countries they would be pelted with rotten tomatoes and be deposed from their non-performance
Freedom of speech…deal with it…or introduce a “new” style of Government. Communism, anyone?
BEWARE FELLOW POSTERS, YOU MAY HAVE TO FACE PRIVATE PROSECUTION FOR YOUR UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS!
Well, luckily for everyone the same rigorous burden and standard of proof which applies to public prosecutions also applies to private ones.
not unless your name is………huuumph huuuumph somtin caught in my throat!
The graffiti is pretty juvenile. And while the message may be a legitimate one, there are better and more legal ways to express that message.
If one is current in the writing process they will know that basic fact is that never can you find a written piece of work that is not the same as someone else’s. For example, even if you purchase a software programme that is set to determine Plagiarism. It will not give a 0 plagiarism score, simply because some phrases in your essay/dissertation or research article WILL match with some other documents on internet, journal article or book. In addition, at times you must write as the author has explained it ! Also, the quotations (even if they are properly referenced) are considered as copied by this software. If you were writing in APA style or any other research required format..special4you…..which here you are not, you’re doing “free comments”…. there would be a certain level of same words written by someone else. (With my university papers, depending on how well you reference, plagiarism shouldn’t matter as long as you remember to quote the source you got it from.)
Please are they trying to suggest you do not have such intelligence to write your own thoughts, or I think it is more of the fact that they upset by your highly insightful comments? THis is a blogg and not a course in writing, so what is the issue here ???? Even the most knowledgeable educators know this….so stop the nonsense. Keep writing special4you…….looks like you got under their skin.
Are you ACTUALLY trying to say that the post quoted WASN’T plagiarized?
Seriously?
That’s ridiculous. It’s been shown, pretty concretely, that the post was ripped.
She didn’t “get under their skin”, she stole someone else’s words.
“are they trying to suggest you do not have such intelligence to write your own thoughts”
This and not trying.
It’s an abbreviated comment in the discussion, not a post for a university paper or a government statement meant to give detailed solutions. Considering much of the stuff that people write online, it is somewhat silly to hold it to the same standard. She probably did copy it into her conversation, but it was interesting, makes you think and helps to approach a solution, rather than just chastising. Who really cares if she copied, other than people who want to detract from the content, particularly as she is anonymous, as long as it helps to make a bit of sense in this. Here’s an interesting article on a related story: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/fair-use-defense/
The point is that she lied about her plagiarism, denying that she copied it from somewhere else.
It also didn’t add anything to the actual conversation people were having, nor did it make people think or help approach a solution. It didn’t even suggest a solution.
Oh, and the story posted has absolutely nothing to do with what she did.
That is about using other people’s work without permission, not claiming it as your own words, then denying repeatedly that you copied it.
Ironically (after a 30 second Google search) it would appear you’ve lifted these remarks (it was the poor construction that gave it away) from:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090926051339AAxu4mT
you:
“will not give a 0 plagiarism score, simply because some phrases in your essay/dissertation or research article WILL match with some other documents on internet”
Claire Yates:
“will never give a 0 plagiarism score, simply because some phrases in your essay/dssertation WILL match with some other documents on internet”
So unless you’re Claire Yates (which I doubt simply because she misspelled dissertation) there is a strong likelihood that you’ve just another iteration of special4you pretending to be someone else in an effort to defend yourself “on internet”.
Quite sad really.
I’d vote for a party led by a green guy with purple spots if I thought he’d stop borrowing money and increasing our deficit to over 1.4 billion dollars. God help us.
Hey Syabas,
You made a great point. But this clearly reveals their level of understanding is not there, or they refuse to admit, or accept they are wrong. A blind uneducated individual can see the points you and I made are correct. We even provided concrete examples of such !! Sometimes it is best not to debate issues with persons like this, because even it you tell them the “house is burning, and actually show them the house burning”, they will still denied it.
The real issue is that Specialgirl4you makes real good points, which makes one stop and really think, rather than writing just rude and uncalled for comments. But, she may have also step on their so call blogg territory or terrain. She may be a new person adding to the converstaion that makes sense, and that they do not like !! But will not admit. (After all this a blogg, what is it they do not get…lol ???) Watch out…..when they come back with an unrelated response to please their souls., go on have your say………..lol Oh,,, were is the discuss on the real real issues !!
I love how you don’t have the courage of your convictions enough to actually face your accusers and address what they’re saying.
Shame, that.
Hey Sally, Are you really Specialgirl4you? I don’t think she makes very good points, were talking about political graffiti she is talking about a study done by Sam Sommers (which she failed to reference). Sorry, but in my opinion the graffiti happened because the PLP has burdened this Island with debt and failed to make positive moves in our dwindling economy, this has upset the culprit to the point where they feel the need to express themselves. Political art plays a huge part in human history! Without criticism governments are allowed to go unchallenged and become more autocratic as they do so. My views are my own though and not copied text from articles masked with jargon. I am not questioning SPG4U’s intelligence, more so the reasons why she would take a discussion and try to influence it with racial propaganda using obscure racial studies conducted by a qualified Psychologist? Is she an aspiring Laverne Furbert? I think so! Most spin and propaganda does not sit with intelligent people, it is more for the sheep and is divisive in its purpose. So going back to the ‘real issues’ you seem to talk about, in your opinion; does this graffiti show unrest and disappointment from the younger community? I doubt some 60 year old white UBP die hard did it!