450 Sign Petition To Amend Human Rights Act

September 17, 2012

450 people have signed a petition hosted by the Center of Justice urging the Government to amend the Human Rights Act 1981 to prohibit discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation.

“I can not believe this is still an issue. Human rights should be Human rights for all,” said one person.

Another said: “Asking for equal rights implies they are yours to give. Instead, we are vehemently demanding that you stop trying to deny the LBGTQ community the rights all people deserve.”

And another said: “In this day and age it’s despicable that a country like Bermuda still has not updated their laws to prohibit discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation.”

In July of this year politicians debated adding an amendment to the Human Rights Act to ban discrimination based on age and sexual discrimination, with the majority of MPs who spoke in favour of extending the Human Rights Act.

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  1. Will says:

    451! Sorry I am not in Bermuda at the moment, but you have my signature ten times over!

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  2. The African-American clergy in the United States of America have already urged their congretgations and its household to make sure that they are registered to vote for the next Presidental election but also urged them not to go to the polls to vote on the day of election to send a clear message of their core beliefs as Christians and their moral right to stand on Gods Holy Ordinances.

    We have seen over the last few days the actions of the muslim community and there stance that they have begun to take worldwide because of their core values that they hold dear to their heart and beliefs,they have choosen to make their voices heard by any means neccessary and although I do not agree with the level of violence and threats that they have shown towards the American community worldwide,you have to take note that they are out in full force standing on their beliefs that to me has very little to do with the fact that a movie was made that belittle the Prophet Mohammad.I clearly think it was an opening for them to over react and take to the streets in violence for some much deeper issues and agenda that they have mostly in the eastern culture and communities.

    With that said I likened it to that of the gay community who to me are born human beings to the humanity and are protected already under the human rights act just by being a part of the human family,the fact that they feel that they are being unfairly treated because of there sexual chioces is really a private matter that needs to be kept where it belongs,behind close doors.we dont need special rights for sexual activity and the laws that need to be in the books for unatural sexual behavior,from rape to adultry and homosexuality is definitely in place and should not be overlooked as if the fore fathers did not have a clue to what they were doing when those laws were put into being.the fact that we had a law repealed does not mean that it is now the in thing or wrong is now right.

    So I say to every person who regardless of being a Christian or not but especially to the Christian believer to follow suit like the African -American Church Leaders and their congretgations and family,DO NOT ON THE DAY OF ELECTION GO TO VOTE FOR ANY POLITICAL PARTY IN BERMUDA,this may sound crazy to some but our fore fathers fought hard for equal rights but they did not go against God's Holy Bible and the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.so just as the gays are fighting hard for there rights and the muslim community around the world are standing strong in their convictions,I say to THE BLOOD WASHED CHURCH TO ARISE FROM YOUR SLEEP,PUT DOWN YOUR OWN PERSONAL AGENDAS AND STAND AS THE BODY OF CHRIST,IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE RECONIZED OF WHO THE MESSENGER IS BUT HEED THE MESSAGE.

    Bermuda we dont need to bend and buckle because it looks like a World trend,WE ARE A GOD FEARING COUNTRY AND WE MUST REAMIN SO IF WE INTEND TO MAKE IT,Sir John Swan made some really good points on our political future and where it is that we are as a country and were we can go if we make the right choices,well one thing he forgot to say and I will say it here,put God first and the rest will be prosperous but keep on making wrong right and we seal our own fate and that goes further then just the issue with the homosexual agenda.

    So send a clear message to our politicians and register to vote but dont vote on the day of election because its more to it then just the homosexual debate and gambling,Bermuda needs its people to get back to work for those that are unemployed and the regulations that are being given to the foreign worker and cost of living in this country are just a few that we need to show all politicains,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

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    • Um Um Like says:

      What a great idea Duane! Take note folks: if you are a bible thumper, PLEASE DO NOT VOTE. We no longer want our country to be run by the church.

      Duane, so what you're saying is that if you had a homosexual relative, you believe that they deserve less rights than you. Wow.

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      • I dont need no homosexual relatives to say what I am saying, I was a homosexual and fought hard for their rights when I was one but it did not make it any more acceptible or right because I was passionate about living the lifestyle and could not give a care in the world who like it or not,but we had an agenda then and the homosexual community have a greater agenda now,you people are hell bent on these rights but you are not taking into account the laws that would be ammended that would fringe on our rights that are basic human rights for all,not to mention this foolishness about you dont want gay marriages.I did not come out of my mother this size and no where on my birth certificate do i see my name being a donkey.the gay community was given the right not to be arrested if the male homosexual was caught in a sexual act in the privacy of their own dwelling,which is to me a right that they rightly deserve,because you answer to God if you are wrong just as a aduterer should not be arrested for their acts,they answer to God but to push your lifestyle down the throats of the majority is utter rubbish and then some younger group would come along down the road and say every ordained minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ should have their license revoked because the refuse to marry you and that is something that I truly believe is part of the gay agenda and they try and mke it like we are partial when we are not,you ever see a minister refuse to bury a dead homosexual,not in this island.so we love the individuals but can not support an act that goes against the order of nature and Gods. This my friend is coming to you from the heart of AN EX -HOMOSEXUAL.

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        • Um Um Like says:

          "an ex-homosexual" ...that's hilarious! At least you're truthfully lying to yourself.

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        • junior burchall says:

          @ Duane: you are an EX-HOMOSEXUAL.

          so?

          by way analogy: no matter how hard i try, no matter how many times i force my feet into the ruby red slippers and click my heels together (and in spite of the relentless, white supremacist assault on all things Afrikan), i will NEVER become an EX-BLACK MAN.

          ...but i do understand the desire amongst some of my brothers and sisters to radically transform themselves into something that they are not and proudly proclaim that they have escaped that which has marked them as 'lesser than'.

          lemme just put it out there, brother: you are wasting time trying to fit into someone else's narrow, bigoted, homophobic view of what you SHOULD be. give that mess up. for the sake of your sanity.

          THERE. IS. NOTHING. WRONG. WITH. YOU.

          in all seriousness, Duane, the Creator makes no mistakes. so gays (<--that would include you), lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered people, intersex and all others are SUPPOSED to be here...and have BEEN here, many millennia before the authors of the KJV of the so-called 'good' book were even thought of. the diversity of humanity - like the diversity of plant and animal life - vastly enriches, rather than diminishes, the beauty of our shared existence here on planet Earth.

          if you haven't already done so, please take a close look at the writings of the late Joseph Beam (his classic essay, "Brother to Brother: Words From the Heart" can be found in the groundbreaking anthology, "Freedom in This Village: Twenty-Five Years of Black Gay Writing"). view Marlon Riggs' masterpiece "Tongues Untied". study the poetry of Essex Hemphill and Audre Lorde.

          most importantly, get quiet with yourself and make peace with the idea that the God who created all - and who loves all, unconditionally - would not scorn and cast aside as an abomination the child made in His/ Her/ Its own image based upon the say-so of a book written by painfully insecure, patriarchal, Middle Eastern desert dwellers and translated into English by a cabal of woman-hating, homophobic racists.

          ...or (as Morpheus might say) you can "just take the blue pill and the story ends. you wake in your bed and [continue] to believe whatever you want to believe....."

          the choice is yours. but i truly hope that you choose wisely and well.

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    • junior burchall says:

      @ Duane: you say "our fore fathers fought hard for equal rights but they did not go against God’s Holy Bible and the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ."

      umm...not true, my good man.

      take a look at ephesians 6:5-8, for e.g.: 5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

      pretty clear, yes?

      so, based upon the immutable word of your slavery-endorsing god, folks like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.( a REVEREND, no less! he really should have known better, imo)were disobeying the biblical law. and because of their transgressions, they have led us - the Black and benighted flock - away from the care of the slavemasters...and into calamity and eternal damnation.

      ...thanks a million, Martin. NOT COOL.

      back too the shackles, i say! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

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      • Amazed says:

        You make an excellent point. The bible has been used to justify all manner of evil throughout history. Perhaps we should still be stoning people :-) .

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      • I have to reply to this because I say that I really get concerned when people like you take a portion of scripture and use it out of its context,if you are going to come at me with scripture make sure you know Gods Word first of all,but for the reading public I would ask that you not only read the fore going portion of scripture as quoted above but read the entire chapter of Ephesians 6 and you would understand the duty of a Cristian and that paul was talk to the church at Ephesus and to the faithful of Jesus Christ and I would set a warning in place that was given by Almighty God in the Holy Bible,according to the book of Revelations chapter 22,read the whole chapter but then zero in on verses 18 and 19

        (18)For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,if any man shall add unto these things,God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
        (19)And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,God shall take away his part out of the book of life,and out of the holy city,and from the things which are written in this book.

        So I rest my case based on a judge who has never lossed a case and a lawyer who is ever sitting on the right hand in my defense.His name is Jesus,Oh yeah for the record you dont have to worry much longer about us Bible thumbping believers because jesus is coming real soon,just look at the signs of the times and in case you are not a scholar of the Word,here is your home work.Obama is the first anti jerusalem President in decades,
        Iran is less then a year away from having its own nuclear weapons and all the surrounding boarders of Israel are coming together on the World scene to make its attack on Israel and do you know what that means,prophecy being fulfilled,Israel is the time clock to the World and that my friend is true,all this other madness in the world dont alarm me but what is happening over there does and so as a Christian I know I have to do my part in where God has planted me to tell the World JESUS IS COMING,so if I stand in the face of men as a homosexual hater or gay basher,you are further from the truth.I made it out of homosexuality and never been ashame to tell my story and will do it to the day Jesus comes or I have to die,which ever comes first.

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        • Mad Dawg says:

          Duane, you're basing this on a "judge who has never lossed a case"?

          You're hilarious man.

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    • US Observer in Pink Sand says:

      Duane...It's about "Discrimination." There are laws against discriminating against people of color or race. What's the difference? Help me understand the difference between the two. MLK spoke of this as well because he experienced it first hand.

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  3. Come Correct says:

    Hypathetically speaking, let's say this ammendment is made, can a pastor be fined/jailed/whatever by refusing to marry a gay couple? I have no issue with gay rights but like Mr. Santucci said, they should be covered by the act simply by being human. Where I have an issue is if this ammendment, as it seems, is solely for the right to gay marriage. If this is the case and a pastor/prist/whatever refuses to marry a gay couple and legal action is taken, then you are contradicting their very basic human right to freely practice the religion of their choice, right? I'm not gay or religious but you can't have one human right undermine another, there has to be a balance somewhere. Maybe representatives from the gay community and representatives of the church community could meet on neutral ground to discuss the issue so that everyone can come to an agreement without stepping on anyone elses toes, but that could also get nasty and counter-productive. Bottom line, I think all humans deserve equal right across the board, but I think its wrong to use the human rights act to mask the right to gay marriage. If this happens, the first pastor/priest/whatever charged will most likely result in a mass of congregations on the lawn of parliment. If it is the right to gay marriage you want, then go about it the right way, not everything has to be done underhanded. Anything born of hate will eventually destroy itself, pure and righteous intentions will always prevail, even if it means fighting for what you believe.

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    • Come Correct says:

      Sorry to pull these out of a movie but they're worth a read.

      “Equality and freedom are not luxuries to lightly cast aside. Without them, order cannot long endure before approaching depths beyond imagining.”

      “I know there's no way I can convince you this is not one of their tricks, but I don't care, I am me. My name is Valerie, I don't think I'll live much longer and I wanted to tell someone about my life. This is the only autobiography ill ever write, and god, I'm writing it on toilet paper. I was born in Nottingham in 1985, I don't remember much of those early years, but I do remember the rain. My grandmother owned a farm in Tuttlebrook, and she use to tell me that god was in the rain. I passed my 11th lesson into girl's grammar; it was at school that I met my first girlfriend, her name was Sara. It was her wrists. They were beautiful. I thought we would love each other forever. I remember our teacher telling us that is was an adolescent phase people outgrew. Sara did, I didn't. In 2002 I fell in love with a girl named Christina. That year I came out to my parents. I couldn't have done it without Chris holding my hand. My father wouldn't look at me, he told me to go and never come back. My mother said I broke her heart...but I had only told them the truth, it was my integrity that was important. Is that so selfish? Our integrity sells for so little, but it is all we really have. It is the very last inch of us, but within that inch, we are free. I'd always known what I wanted to do with my life, and in 2015 I starred in my first film, "The Salt Flats". It was the most important role of my life, not because of my career, but because that was how I met Ruth. The first time we kissed, I knew I never wanted to kiss any other lips but hers again. We moved to a small flat in London together. She grew Scarlet Carsons for me in our window box, and our place always smelled of roses. Those were there best years of my life. But America's war grew worse, and worse. And eventually came to London. After that there were no roses anymore. Not for anyone. I remember how the meaning of words began to change. How unfamiliar words like collateral and rendition became frightening. While things like Norse Fire and The Articles of Allegiance became powerful, I remember how different became dangerous. I still don't understand it, why they hate us so much. They took Ruth while she was out buying food. I've never cried so hard in my life. It wasn't long till they came for me. It seems strange that my life should end in such a terrible place, but for three years, I had roses, and apologized to no one. I shall die here. Every inch of me shall perish. Every inch, but one. An Inch, it is small and it is fragile, but it is the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away. We must never let them take it from us. I hope that whoever you are, you escape this place. I hope that the world turns and that things get better. But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love you. With all my heart, I love you. -Valerie”

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    • Josh Outerbridge says:

      The issue at hand is not the same one that US is grappling with, that is legalizing gay marriage. What we're talking about locally is banning discrimination against homosexuals, something that is unbelievably long overdue.

      You can rest assured that no one is looking to force the clergy into performing ceremonies against there will.

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    • street wise says:

      No one is talking about Gay Marriage... just basic human rights. IE: two words & a comma, is that too much to ask? You lot, who believe homosexuality is a choice, are misinformed and backward.

      As a result of the dumb ideas many Bermudians have, we are missing out on millions of dollars in gay travel. Just when we most need it! SMH

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  4. US Observer in Pink Sand says:

    I thought Church and State should always remain separate.

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  5. Portia says:

    Duane Santucci and Come Correct - well said!! You have both hit the nail on the head.

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  6. IMO its a bit dissapointing that this only got 450 signatures, but I suppose its a good start. The road to tolerance may be long and hard-fought, but it's consistent and can't be stopped! Props to those fighting for change!

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  7. The Professor says:

    @ Come Correct,

    It may well be a breach of the Human Rights Act or a gay couple to be prevented from legally marrying. Rest assured, however, that the couple is not going to approach an anti-gay church to get married. They will attend the offices of the Registry General, just like any other couple who wishes to get married outside the church. It's really no more complicated than that.

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    • Come Correct says:

      That's understandable but at the same time I don't think it is that simple, not everyone wants to be married at the registry general. So if in fact it is an infringement of human rights for a pastor or otherwise to refuse the marriage of a gay couple then I forsee problems. What I'm doing right now is what this government should have been doing for years. You can say that the ammendment is to protect the rights of gay people in the work place and so on, and not for gay marriage , but the ammendment would open the door for exactly what I'm talking about. I'm sure no license fees for the vehicles of seniors was supposed to ease up the seniors, not allow younger people to license SUV's cheaper. I'm pretty sure raising duty rates was supposed to create more spending locally to stimulate the economy, not stop people from buying goods altogether. See where I'm going with this? Without the proper thought put into this you're going to end up with unforseen problems. I just don't think trading one human right for another is the solution.

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  8. Big says:

    How did Bermuda become such a place of hatred a 20 mile square island saying F... Off if you dont go to my church we don't need you or your business wow .........non very sustainable me thinks....

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  9. street wise says:

    Gay marriage and basic human rights for gays are two separate issues.

    Why are you lot discussing gay marriage? It is not gonna happen here any time soon.

    This is about senseless Bermudian homophobia usurping their basic human rights. It's disgusting.

    Homosexuality is not a choice, can't you get that through your head?!

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  10. Yada Yada Yada says:

    Churches on Sunday always use portions of the Bible that suits them. The fantasy book called the Bible is full of Contradictions, Doublets:, a penchant for exaggeration. It exaggerates to the point of being absurd. However here in the year 2012 we should not be discriminating against anyone regardless of their sexual preference. Religion is slowly losing its grip on people. Finally people are waking up and not falling for this book of fantasy's.

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  11. Common Sense says:

    I trust that Duane Santucci will not mind if I question his use of the bible to justify his position on homosexuality and his argument that the Human Rights Act should not be amended to include “sexual orientation”. I write as a heterosexual man who constantly hears from my Christian friends about the evils of homosexuality, and the ever constant quote that homosexuality is an “abomination” and therefore should be prohibited

    I recently wrote an article on the subject of abominations and the bible, and challenged anyone to explain the apparent hypocrisy of those Christians who seem to have a complete blind spot when it comes to all of the many other abominations in the bible - none of which are used to deny our fellow human beings their human rights. In fact, most can’t even list any of the others and start to waffle when questioned in detail. Why is that?

    According to my dictionary the word “abomination means something “exceptionally loathsome, hateful, wicked or vile”. Let's start with the first “abomination” mentioned in Genesis 46:34 which refers to every shepherd being “an abomination” to the Egyptians. Wow! I thought that Jesus was a shepherd to his flock? Can we please have a moral explanation as to why shepherds are an “abomination”? Isaiah 66.3 uses the word “abomination” to describe sin in general (of which we are all guilty), and Ezekiel refers specifically to adultery. Proverbs 6 16-18 lists six abominations — “a proud look, a lying tongue, a hand that sheds innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are swift in running to mischief, and being a false witness who tells lies”. Are these loathsome, hateful, wicked and vile “abominations” for which we are condemned to eternal damnation?

    Yes, the word “abomination” is used in Leviticus to describe men lying with men, but it also says in Deuteronomy that it's an abomination to cheat in the market by using rigged weights, while Proverbs (12:22) refers to dishonesty. Dishonesty? Oh my goodness. We are all doomed! It's an “abomination” to tell lies (Proverbs 12:22), to be proud of heart (Proverbs 16:5) and to cheat in business (Proverbs 20:10 Proverbs 20:23). Cheating in business. Now there's one to ponder!

    Leviticus goes on to label all sorts of other activities as “abominations”, including eating any kind of seafood without fins and scales (Lev 11:10). If we interpret this literally then we would have to prohibit the catching or eating of lobsters or crabs, or any kind of shell fish. How many of us have committed that “abomination” on a regular basis — in season or out of season? How many of us dig into those shrimp cocktails at receptions and office parties? How many of our fishermen have been assisting others in committing “abominations” all their lives — catching lobsters? Can you imagine a minister thumping on his pulpit to denounce St David's Island fishermen for being loathsome, wicked and vile in providing lobsters and shell fish to all and sundry? Sorry, but the Bible is quite specific. If we take it literally then an abomination is an abomination.

    On the issue of taking the bible seriously, I would like to point out that there is one terrible sin that is included in the Ten Commandments for which there is no doubt whatsoever of the punishment to be meted out — and that is the sin of “adultery”. Leviticus 20.10, and Leviticus 20.13 in my Bible are completely clear — the punishment is to be put to death. If Bermuda were to decide on a strict interpretation of the bible then I can name dozens of what I call “serial adulterers” who would have to be condemned to death without question. Just to avoid any misinterpretation the Bible also makes it clear that divorcing one partner and marrying another is also “adultery” so proving such cases would be easy.

    However, adultery is not a crime in Bermuda, and I never hear anyone criticising the morality of those among us who have committed, or who are committing adultery, on a daily basis, nor do I read anything about moving to deny adulterers their human rights.

    Likewise, the Stubbs Bill decriminalised sexual relations between males in 1995 so homosexuality is not a crime or offence in Bermuda. And before anyone rants on about the lack of morality of Dr Stubbs or those who voted for this amendment to our legislation I can only warn you to be extremely cautious. You may want to check out who supported this amendment and who said it was long overdue!

    Bermuda has moved forward in this 21st century, and it is no longer permitted under our Human Rights Act to discriminate against anyone because of their marital status, or because their parents were not married. It is high time to give all of our citizens' equal human rights and to include “sexual orientation” in the Act. After providing an opportunity to our Christian friends and religious leaders to explain why all “abominations” are not treated equally, I would be delighted to write a further letter with a possible explanation as to why our distant ancestors warned us against those actions that we now refer to as “abominations”.

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  12. street wise says:

    Bingo!

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  13. CHEEKUMS BI says:

    Human Rights Act should not be amended to include “sexual orientation” because it makes no sense. There is no discrimination whatsoever in Bermuda of homosexuals having jobs, going out to eat, or walking in the park.

    MAJORITY!! Of Bermudians do not wish to see two men slapping tongue on one another or hugging up one another nor do we wish to see two females doing the same thing. You cannot force your lifestyle on a majority of people, forcing your lifestyle on people is wrong and against human rights. Lets be perfectly clear here and stop the BS! The only reason why you want the human rights act to be changed is so homosexuals and only homosexuals can force their lifestyle on the society and have no shame in doing in public what society looks down upon.
    Sexual Orientation
    Most definitions of sexual orientation include a psychological component, such as the direction of an individual's erotic desire, or a behavioral component, which focuses on the sex of the individual's sexual partner/s.

    Why the hell would we need a law to change because of a person’s erotic sexual desire?? You like a man’s backside and you would rather have sex with a man no problem buddy, do what you do but do not try to change the law so that you can force your erotic strange sexual desire on me.
    And since when is a human being defined by his or her sexuality???? We are not defined by our sexuality we are defined by our original human nature the same nature that we was born with, you wasn’t born a male and having strong sexual feeling for a man..you learnt that behavior.

    Your sexual preference comes when you start hitting puberty and somewhere along the line your mind went haywire.

    But you are not defined by your sexual preference by no means!! Just like a cow is not defined as a hamburger or a steak, a dog is not defined by what he likes to pee on or what he chooses to rub on when he is in heat and we are not defined by what we do when we are in heat. If that was the case people would be asking for masturbators rights to be included in the human rights act.

    So including sexual orientation in a human rights act makes no sense because we are not defined by our erotic sexual choices or our sexual preference.
    Cheekums bie

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  14. Arthur says:

    Homosexuality as an act can and should be discriminated against just as fornication, adultery and incest between a consenting adult mother/son, father/daughter, brother/sister etc etc. However, I don't believe in the mistreatment or discrimination of people who suffer from these psychological and perhaps even biological disorder s. And I make no apologies for my ideological approach and stance with regard to sexuality and the sexual orientations of human beings be it homosexuality, bestiality or incestuality.
    The questions that those who believe in the right to impose homosexuality on our society at the legislative level need to answer is this....do you also stand for the right of incestual couples not to be discriminated against? Do you also support the right for bestial couples? Do you believe that a father and a daughter have the right to be married if they are consenting adults? If you do, state it plainly! If you do not, then why not?
    See you must accept that two words and a comma includes incest as well. Their is no homosexual monopoly in this matter. Bestiality is on the table as well.
    The bottom line is that their is a difference between a homosexual ACT and homosexual inclinations. I do not believe anyone deserves top be

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    • Come Correct says:

      You do not believe anyone deserves to be what?! Gay? Married to an animal?discriminated against? What?! That was an interesting point and you just left me hanging. Don't worry I have trouble finishing my sentences too because of my. Hey look a longtail!... What was is saying?

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    • street wise says:

      Are you nuts...?! You are taking this human rights issue to places no one but YOU wants to go. Maybe you have these tendencies yourself...? You sure have some strange opinions, go back to reading your old testament. None of your nonsense has anything to do with the BASIC human rights of gay folks. That is the issue here, not bestiality, incest and whatnot. SMH.

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  15. street wise says:

    Here's the best idea yet... the plp government and the church have no business in your bedroom. So get the eff out of Bermuda's bedrooms!! Just add the 'two words and a comma' to our current human rights legislation, and get over yourselves!! Homosexuality is NOT a choice, can you not get that through your thick heads?!

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    • Come Correct says:

      Ok, I'm not against what you're saying, but to think of it as simply adding two words and a comma we're going to end up with more problems than we started with. This needs to be thought about long and hard (legislative consultants need to start earning their money not just recieving it). Also, I'm not so sure that I can agree with you that homosexuality is the way that someone is born. This is only my personal belief from my own personal observations, but I believe people become gay just like any other person becomes who they are, through personal experiences throughout their life. Some people experience the same thing yet experience it a different way because of multiple different factors, the biggest factor being your mind and mentality. An instance where some will stand and fight, others will run and hide, an instance where some will persevere and others will quit, all of these things, the way you act and react, where you speak up or where you remain silent, the biggest influencing factor is your mind and the past experiences it has been through. I know bisexual girls that preferre girls and girls that are stricly lesbian, you hear a thousand a one reasons why they don't like men, the thing is if you look closely enough, the eyes are the window to a persons soul, you can see the hurt, the pain that was cause by a/multiple memebers of the opposite sex. Everybody has a story to tell, very few are bold enough to share it. We all have reasons to the things we do, even if we don't care/want to explain them. The thing is if you were hurt by somebody and found everything you needed in a member of the same sex, who am I to tell you any different? In my honest opinion, there is one human right that covers us all and is all we need, and that is the right to be happy in the way of our choice as long as it does not impare the rights of another (no, your childhood dream of being a gun smuggler does not qualify if others suffer or die as a direct or indirect result), feel me? We all just want to be happy right? Too bad it can't be that simple.

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  16. Common Sense says:

    I note that as of this date neither Duane Santucci nor any of those members of our Christian community who so often spout out phrases from the bible to support their objections against "sexual orientation" being included in the Human Rights Act, have not yet responded to my post of 17th September. Does that mean that they realize they just cannot justify quoting one so-called "abomination" while ignoring all of the rest. It appears that they feel fully justified denying one section of our community their human rights but have a major problem quoting God's word when their interpretation of the bible is challenged.

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