Shine’s House Of Music: Over $10,000 Donated

October 15, 2013

shines house of musicFollowing a fundraising drive on the Magic 102.7 radio station today [Oct 15], over $10,000 has been donated to help Wendell ‘Shine’ Hayward who has fallen into arrears at his Reid Street location.

A newspaper report this morning indicated that Mr Hayward was given until Friday [Oct 18] to come up with close to $50,000 after falling behind on the rent for Shine’s House of Music on Reid Street.

Magic 102.7 accepted donations today to support Shine’s House of Music and as of this writing $10,306.20 in cash/cheques has been collected, and additional money has been pledged, with supporters from across the island joining to assist the musician and entrepreneur.

A post made this afternoon on Magic’s Facebook page said, “There is a line at Magic 102.7 – Home of the Hits. The Sherri Simmons Show has a line of supporters willingly and happily donating to Shine Hayward community fundraiser.”

Radio host Sherri Simmons said it has been gratifying to help a fellow Bermudian, and said locals have demonstrated they are willing to help each other. Mrs Simmons said that the give-a-thon will continue tomorrow. Mr Hayward, a veteran musician, called into the radio station and expressed his overwhelming thanks to everyone for their love and assistance.

Locals can tune into Magic 102.7 tomorrow to hear updated details about the funds raised.

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  1. Businessisbusiness says:

    It is nothing short of stunning, and quite frankly reckless, that so many people would part with $10,000 of their own money for a failed business. Sure Shine is a great guy and sure he can play the sax. But, he’s in arrears and the business cannot meet its obligations as they come due. So, you raise $10,000 today, Buddy Rego says thank you, Shine’s still in debt $40K and then November’s rent comes due and his business plan remains the same, then what? To freely give of so much money without asking a single question about how the business was run, who was paid what, and guess what, there will be more creditors is just a complete waste of money. Throwing it up in the air in a hurricane would have the same result.

    • Paul says:

      People who have donated to this cause,you all do not have all of the facts.

    • Natalie says:

      @Businessisbusiness: Some may jump all over you, but you are perfectly correct. This isn’t a case of someone having cancer or something and the public raising funds to pay for treatment. This is a case of a gentleman who took a gamble that didn’t pay off; someone who should have had a business plan with contingencies in place for something like this.

      When i first heard he was opening a business there, I felt it would be doomed. Every other venture there has failed-it doesn’t seem to be the ideal location or something. Maybe he felt his name would carry the place but I guess not. When you’re catering to the mature crowd in that genre of business in Bermuda, you’re taking a gamble no matter the location. Older folks will come out to clubs now and then but it not a steady, every weekend kind of thing like it is with the forever partying younger crowd.

      Those people who donated may feel good, but they really aren’t being too sensible.

    • I Don't Get It says:

      I have to agree with you. I don’t get it, there are people starving out there, people trying to pay their rent or mortgage and keep the lights on. Yet 10G was raised in hours to help a business pay it’s rent. I would rather see people help his business by patronizing it, not just hand him cash on a silver platter. We don’t know how Shine was keeping his books, or what his priorities were for paying his bills so why hand him over a sack of cash without all of the facts?

      It is noble of the radio hosts trying to assist, but I’m a big believer in not getting something for nothing. I remember when kids used to come around with punch cards asking for donations for this or that. I would always tell them they needed to do something in exchange, such as a community trash-a-thon or packing groceries. Call me an old grump, but I have worked hard all of my life and never had anything just handed over to me. Like you said, they are helping Shine in the short term but what will happen as he continues fighting to keep the business afloat? If people want to help then visit his house of music on a regular basis.

      • Mazumbo says:

        So what makes you think that the people who helped him don’t help starving people, rent, mortgage and keeping lights on. I do agree with you about patronizing his business but not every one loves to hang and drink. Your comment for getting something for nothing is what disturbed me, I’m assuming you don’t know Shine(well you know what they say about ASSUME) but Shine has contributed in the community for decades and has had a positive effect on a lot of peoples lives, this is something that you probably didn’t know that’s why it’s hard for you to believe why so many people reached out for him even though (most people worked hard all our lives and never had anything handed over to us) how do you think our for fathers built this country?

        • totheungrateful says:

          I wanna piggy back on you if you dont mind…

          looking at most of these comments, all i conclude that these are the jonhny come lately ignorant perhaps even young bermudians, or the culturally detached foreigners…you must show respect to the people who built this community…all these degrees werent paid for by parents alone…community support plays a big role…shine taught many children, inspired many people and serenaded the whole community when needed for free…if you dont teach your children to pay homage, then this is what you get…ungrateful people charging you for the things you helped them to attain…

          shameful to even speak out about it, its best you keep your mouth, because you dont know the man and what he’s been doing for decades!

          Tag! your in Mazumbo! :)

      • SayWhatYouMean says:

        @I Don’t Get It: I agree with all you’ve said. I also don’t believe in getting something for nothing. Shine may be a wonderful guy but this was a business. The recession didn’t hit after he started the business, he started it while the economy was on a downward spiral and took that risk. People don’t know all the details behind this story and are just giving away money. It’s very peculiar.

        BTW, the punch card thing always bothered me as well and you have to blame the adults for that. Kids need to learn that life isn’t that easy and people aren’t just going to give you money-it has to be earned in some way. I remember a colleague going around with a punch card to raise money for her kid’s majorette outfit. I couldn’t believe it. She decided to put her kid in majorettes and then expected other people to support that endeavour! Nope-don’t believe in that…hold bake sales, raffles, whatever but don’t expect people to just give you money!

    • Serious Though says:

      Should have donated the money to charity instead!

    • Mazumbo says:

      Where were your comments on David Dodwell and Nine Beaches ???????

    • Let me say that on the outline you may seem to look as if you are correct in the way you explain the situation from a business perspective, but do you know how many folk in this country down through the years have taken a gamble on a business venture and failed but then was pulled out of the hole by others and we never read about it or heard it through the media.

      Why did Mr. Haywards plight have to be publicized on the front page and thankfully a good response had come about in his defense, you and others are so quick to judge this situation but this is not the first of its kind and wont be the last. Mr. Hayward has done great things in this island and the whole concept of having this club was to save a dying industry that we need and if it were not so he would not have sacrifice the way he did.

      Now lets talk about wreck less and how one of our former leaders who just happens to be in power again under the present administration, lets talk about land tax and how it use to be paid directly into a fund that went to the parish council and then when the former U.B.P took it over and demanded that the government now get the funds for land tax, the parish council lost that stream of revenue, then once the former U.B.P got to control the stream of cash that was collected from the land tax, we had our former minister with his brilliant idea to invest our money in New York into the millions and lost it, so who came to the rescue and what did we see in a bail out, and who were the ones behind it.

      Well I can assure you it was not anyone that looked like me and I would go as far as saying that you have a short memory, I can give at least 6 different serious situation in Bermuda that some in the community stood beside their own to help their own but those situation involved all white business people.

      Finally I don’t just donate for the saving of the business, but the greater reason is to help someone in need and unless you have ever been in debt over your head you wont know the pressure or the heart ache that goes along with it. Mr. Hayward went to the rescue of a industry that needed the direction and the idea was a good one and still is but let us realize that now we may have a greater opportunity to make this work, especially if the new tourism authority can see how this can fit into their up and coming new tourism authority platform, that can help to revive tourism.

      tourist come to Bermuda and want to see local entertainers and this is missing and we know that it will take the music federation to get its act together also, Mr. Hayward cant do this alone but with all major players in place this venture can be and should be greater then it first started, so in closing to all the nay Sayers we would have never had the out pouring of love and appreciation for Shine unless he went down first.

      So in reality this make look bad but the outcome is good, to all those who think other wise don’t be so quick to judge him but take your expertize to help guide him and maybe your assistance in areas greater then money will pay off in the long run for us all.

  2. Mazumbo says:

    Heartless!!! Regardless of how you feel this is a reflection of the Bermudian Spirit that we had in the 40′s, 50′s and 60′s when we couldn’t get loans from de banks, so we had to rally together for support, and I wouldn’t pay $5,300 a month for a building that’s been around since de trains were running. Is this de same Rego’s that went bankrupt?

    • Mike Hind says:

      I was with you… right up until you decided to smear.

      It absolutely IS a reflection of the Bermudian Spirit that folks are coming together to help out a fellow Bermudian who needs it.
      Shine is a good man and it’s amazing that folks are helping out.

      • Mazumbo says:

        The reason I added de smear is because Rego’s was a reputable business and they went bankrupt (and then opened up under another entity after that),and it’s common practice that when some businesses run into financial problems they get economic help from those who can help or merge, I was just making a point that if this is the same Rego family then they would know that no one is exempt from business hardship.

        • Mike Hind says:

          So you knew it was them? Why ask, then?

          That’s just smear and it’s not needed. Come on.

          • Mazumbo says:

            I said IF it is the same family

            • Bermudian Abroad says:

              It isn’t the same family that went bankrupt. But regardless, I know Mr. Rego personally and he is a fine fine man who has worked with Shine and has given him every chance to succeed. It is of course terribly unfortunate that it has come to this but that in the end is the reality of business.

        • Cardine Alice says:

          Then that’s what Mr Shine should have done – go bankrupt, stiff his creditors like Rego (who should have called this in a long time ago before such debts were run up), and start again.

          • Sandy Bottom says:

            In all likelihood, that is probably what is going to happen. Except for the “start again” bit. His credibility might not be quite as good now, as a businessman.

    • frank says:

      yes

  3. Just me says:

    I’m sorry but I wouldn’t give a penny to this cause. If it was something medical then definitely. Obviously this business is not being run properly, what happens next month and the month after that?

    • Paul says:

      Just me…. you ask a very good question… it is obvious that Shine needs to explain why he has not paid his rent.

      • Mike Hind says:

        No. He doesn’t.

        These are volunteer donations from people who are willing to help out. He doesn’t “need to explain” anything he doesn’t want to.

        • If he did explain the problems he has had he might get an even larger down pour of funds. No sense pissing money up-side de wall…it just runs down de wall and into the dirt.

  4. bermy girl says:

    If we can do this in one day for one business man. What do u think we can accomplish if we all worked together and open our own businesses…… Let’s do it……our own grocery store, own shoe store, and so on………come on Bermuda….this is the way we used to be and we can do it again.

  5. Paul says:

    Mazumbo, what would you consider a reasonable rent for this location ?

    • Mazumbo says:

      Something reasonable the landlord has to pay de bank if de building isn’t already paid for.

      • Mike Hind says:

        You don’t get to set rates for someone else’s property.

        Just like folks don’t get to demand that Shine disclose ANYTHING.

        • Mazumbo says:

          I agree but that doesn’t negate the fact that rental fee greed is pathetic in Bermuda.

          • Mike Hind says:

            $5200 for that square footage? I think you might be incorrect.

            • Sue Denim says:

              $5200 I think is a bit steep for that property but but Shine must have agreed to pay it. Also, it make no difference whether the Regos (or any landlord) owed money on the building. The rental value is the rental value.

              Imagine for a minute you were trying to sell your car for say 10 grand. But you owed 5 grand so you’d pocket 5 grand. To the buyer and seller it is still worth 10 grand whether you owed anything or not. It is not a part of the process.

              Next time you pay something off with your hard earned money, go and sell it for a fraction of its cost just to ‘do the right thing’. Yeah right – it’ll never happen!

              Sorry for Shine but he is a grown up, and he went into a grown up business. There are consequences.

            • James Herald says:

              5200 is not unreasonable – and whether the place is paid off or not is irrelevant.

      • frank says:

        the building is up for sale

  6. hmm says:

    how do you let the payments get so backed up?

  7. Newly Opomistic Bermudian says:

    I have bills from bad bussiness mistakes will you pay mine please,please?

  8. justMYopinion says:

    Looking at some of these comments is further proof that you just can’t please everybody and your damned if you do and damned if you don’t…..Those that CHOSE to assist to this cause did for THEIR own reasons….You can’t condemn someone because they chose to do this….I feel that if we ALL stick together instead of running each other down the world would be a much better place to live in……It is to my understanding that Shine was not even aware of this…..A gentleman made the suggestion on the Radio Talk Show and it just went from there….How some of you feel how people should spend THEIR money baffles me…It is THEIR money and they can distibute as they see fit….I just wish that we could all get along and just stop being so NEGATIVE about everything……

  9. jt says:

    The effort to assist is commendable. Hopefully it raises enough to keep Shine going a bit longer and someone can donate time to help him with what it looks like he really needs – a new business model.

    • Serious Though says:

      Being there done that… This guy should just close the business , he have no clue… Even close friends and family members know.. Serious talk!!!

    • Sandy Bottom says:

      Being a musician does not make someone a good businessman. The two skills are completely different. If he raises a few thousand bucks he’ll string things out a bit longer, but if he can’t run a business he will have to close eventually.

  10. lifetime says:

    Recession? What recession?

    • swing voter says:

      now thats funnieeeee

      • Mazumbo says:

        What’s funny! Everyone knows that we are in a recession and we are all feeling it, but the efforts of numerous people with little makes much. There was a time in Bermuda when our for-fathers couldn’t get a loan from the banks and were denied of lucrative jobs for a better living, but we pulled together and helped to build each others houses against all odds so even though as a people we lost the vision that our for-fathers set before us shows that we still have it regardless what the haters think. Now put that in ya pipe and smoke it! Now that’s FUNNIEEEEE.

  11. Malachi says:

    According to a news article, in October of 2012 the business was $20;000 + in rental arrears. At $5,300 a month, why, in these economic times would you continue to operate?

    Simply a bad business decision!

  12. LP says:

    A fool and his money are easily parted … clearly Shine is not the fool here !

  13. Time Shall Tell says:

    Mr.Hayward has given a lot to the community over the years & it’s obvious the community remembers this fact. Some faith has been restored knowing that the Bermuda spirit still lives in some of its’ people.

  14. No longer a member says:

    rego should of closed his doors sooner, belco should of shut off his lights earlier, bda gas should of stopped delivering. The food places are smart, they put you on cash on delivery.

  15. Tiger Lily says:

    I propose Dale Butler take over the business. That bie has the Midas touch.

  16. Tiger Lily says:

    And business smarts. He thinks way outside the box, Dale does and he relates to his target audience’s pocketbook. I hear all the throwing pearls to swine comments and I will say good luck to Shine, applaud Sherrie and the many donators.

  17. Mazumbo says:

    Explain yourself!!!!!

  18. swing voter says:

    somthing I learned the hard way…If you open a business with little capital, you better damn well own the property/building or your chances of failure multiply x $5300 per month. If he were named Shine Rego, we wouldn’t be having this conversation

  19. Bermyboy says:

    I will be giving my donation as a respect to Mr Hayward!! On another note Rego Reality should be ashamed of themselves for charging $5,300 for that run down building. Thats PURE GREED PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!

    • Double Standards says:

      No tenant is forced to sign a lease…

    • Totally agree with you. But $5300 per month is a pure shame. only in Bda would someone charge that much for the building. Renovate, update then it might be worth that $5300.

      The building is well dated in the stone age and Shine has tried to bring it back. It’s an historical site and maybe the Bda Historical Society can come to Shine’s aid and those greedy owners and make a deal that would keep Shine in business with a new honest, smart, business manger.

      • Double Standards says:

        Yes it might be excessive, but what isn’t in BDA.

        No one forces tenants to sign contracts and the landlord did not institute the rent rise as stipulated by the contract signed at the time of Shine taking over the lease hold.

        No one forces tenants to move into a particular building. All tenants make the decision on where they want their business to be located. On top of that the building has been in the same shape for many a year now.

        So I still fail to see how the owners are taking flak for this as no one forced anyone to sign a lease in which the amount of rent to be collected isn’t known.

        Unfortunately the business has been, like countless others, has fallen victim to our poor economy.

  20. The Ombudsman makes a statement and says:

    Shine is a nice guy an all however, i donopt support the use of alcohol and the possibility that a person can get drunk and get into an accident when leaving his club..secondly $50k is not chump change thats a lot of money, it seems as if he has had bad business..if anything they should raise money and get that dude from Bar Rescue to come to Bermuda and help Shine out..which would equal great publicity for Shine and Bermuda ..an all around win win….but to just dump funds in the hands of people who mismanage is not wise at all..its boarder line stupid

    • Great suggestion.

      Now you don’t have to drink if you go there for a show.. Drink Coke, Sprite or any other non alcoholic drink. It’s your call.

      Responsible drinkers is what is needed.

  21. Decisions says:

    How is that money helping Shine??? The money will actually be helping the Landlord as he will at least get $10,000 out of the $50,000 owed. This is $10,000 he would not of seen without this fundraiser. Thanks Sherri, keep up the good work to try and raise balance

  22. My2Cents says:

    I am astounded by the heartless comments on this thread. If any of you tuned in to the Sherrie J. show you would have heard the sincere expressions of gratitude to Shine by those who donated money. The vast majority of them detailed that on countless occasions Shine gave his time and talents to others in need of help WITHOUT ASKING FOR OR RECEIVING PAYMENT. This was their way of giving back to him in his time of need. What is wrong with that?!?!

    Others recognised his tireless efforts to revive a near extinct part of our Bermuda culture: that being the Bermudian musician.

    As for the reasons why he is in this financial predicament, why are you so quick to assume that it was as a result of mismanagement? For business on Front Street we accept that their closure was as a result of a depressed economy, why then can we not attribute the same reason for Shine? Are we so ignorant that we believe that other businesses in the City are not operating under serious debt and are one month away from closure or going bankrupt?

    If only just for today, let’s stop the cynicism and see these small acts of kindness for what they truly are: true manifestations of the Bermudian spirit.

    • The Ombudsman makes a statement and says:

      As Bermudians we are generous people and that’s a fact, we are also gullible people as well, the best thing to happen is not to just give the money the best thing would be to attack the root of the problem,..lets say he needs better management then lets help out there but to just rush in and give money makes no sense….Shine could be the worlds best human being but be a fool when it come to managing money…so why would you give the man more money?? a good business is give it about a year and if its not working out then you call it quits an on to the next idea, especially in the difficult financial times

    • Reverse Sweep says:

      We all know that CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS don’t want this man and people who look like him to succeed! Lets keep it real.Why wouldn’t anyone support a FELLOW BERMUDIANS business if the business is not doing well.Would they have felt better if donors would have gone to the bar and bought $10,000 worth of liquor?What difference does it make?? This is a business,plain and simple, that’s employing BERMUDIANS!!
      These are people that wont help a fellow Bermudian but rather watch his business tank only to buy him out or takeover the space his business occupies. GREED,GREED,GREED

      • Double Standards says:

        You’re right.

        When all those white businesses had to close due to the economy you saw ALL white people stepping in to save the white owned business. Didn’t you?

        Of course you didn’t, but yet you try and make it a racial issue that somehow white Bermudians want this man to fail because he is not of the same hue.

        It is sad and pathetic, but yet so predictable.

        • Ya got me Rollin says:

          They never mentioned white….. You did. Paranoia

      • haha says:

        ya they don’t want him to succeed becuase he’s black…shut the f up already. don’t get out to you?!~ lay down

        • Concerned Citizen says:

          Actually, this has nothing to do with black and white. One would think that with the type of music played at Shines, black people would support his business. Maybe, that is a contributing factor to his woes. While the donations make us feel good, it avoids the real problems. It does nothing to help his business. Customer support will. That means his business model must change. Btw, many business have gone under over the last few years, owned by black and white people(FYI). Mind you, the PLP used to get all the blame……but I digress…..one lesson to be learned is night club operators must decide WHO they allow to be patrons. Once a certain “element” are welcomed in, they may spend money, but other folk will not, as they will stop coming. It’s a difficult decision for nightclubs in this country.
          Soooo, back to my original point, this has nothing to do with race.

          • Double Standards says:

            Standalone nightclubs (i.e. only open at night and only serves beverages) will always fail in this island.

            The demand is just not there throughout the week to sustain a pure nightclub business.

            Just think about how many acutal nightclubs are operating in BDA these days.

            On Front Street alone there is only one and from what I am made to believe it won’t be there much longer.

            The business model just doesn’t work here anymore.

            • Concerned Citizen says:

              Agreed Double. OUR model must change, and fast.

      • Double Decker says:

        @Reverse Sweep:

        Your comment contains the most garbage I have ever seen and that says a lot considering I’m a sanitation worker!

  23. Greedy Snakes says:

    The true character of Rego is made obvious here. The man is loaded with so many millions, so much property and houses, but he wants to sap $50,000 out of a poor guy who has a failing business?

    Rego, do you REALLY need that $50,000? Is it really worth putting a man who has taught endless children how to play music into debt, depression, court battles, lawyer fees etc?

    Rego, are you going to cry if you don’t get that $50,000? Oohhh boo boo you must need it soooo bad.

    People like you make me sick. I would rather die than be someone like you for a day.

    Rich people are like the scum that floats on top of a rotten beverage. Yeah, it is on top. But its just freaking nasty crap that nobody really likes.

    • Bermudian Abroad says:

      Are you kidding me? Regardless if Mr. Rego has money or not a penny, wouldn’t any landlord want to get the rent they are due (that the tenant agreed to) especially in these economic times when everyone has bills to pay? $50,000 means different things to different individuals, but in the proper practice of business, every landlord is due the money they were promised.

      Mr. Rego clearly gave Shine quite the chance and I know they have a good relationship. It would be something different if after a month of non-payment a tenant was asked to ship out; I think that trust, faith and patience to help Shine is showing the real true character of Mr. Rego.

    • haha says:

      IT IS CALLED BUSINESS YOU DUMMY. I’m sure Rego and Shine are friends, hopefully, but it’s strictly business.

      OBVIOUSLY no one on here has run their own business. Greedy Snakes if someone owed you 50k would you let them month in and month out not pay you just because oh we should help him out, oh its bermudian spirit(WHICH FOR THE MOST PART IS AMAZING), etc. ITS A F****** BUSINESS BRA!! The strongest survive plain and simple.

  24. Tired says:

    It is wonderful to see Bermudians giving back to someone who has given so much of themselves. But, if you owe $50 grand for rent, then I am sure you owe a lot more to different creditors. He should just cut his loses, close the place down, and work on paying of his creditors.

  25. Greedy Snakes says:

    Rich get richer, poor get poorer.

    That is how the MONETARY AND ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO OPERATE.

    Middle class ONLY came into existence to serve a temporal purpose to the rich, and now it is being weeded out. Middle class will soon be extinct, and we will be reduced again to Kings and Peasants like in the middle ages.

    We will work like slaves for terrible pay, while our labor makes our rich masters and overlords millions and millions.

    Wake up people and smell the coffee! Stop living your daydream and snap out of it!

    Do you think it is fair we are forced to pay $10,000 a year for health insurance that barely covers 25% of our medical bills, while the owners of Argus rake in and BRAG about making $40million in profit during a recession where thousands have nowhere to live!?!?

    So while me and my wife starve every day eating a slice of bread for most meals, having pointless insurance, those wipes from Argus walk home with money to buy new homes?

  26. Greedy Snakes says:

    high rents are the cause of our economic situation.

    rent should be 25% of income, not half or more.

    impossible for economy and human beings to survive on that.

    there must be minimum wage, or else it gets worse.
    Health insurance must be heavilly regulated or else

  27. Greedy Snakes says:

    you retards who keep saying foreigners should be thrown onto a tiny island of your own where you can be FRICKIN STUPID AS A DONKEY with your pathetic selves,

    you retareded wipe wads i swear your IQ must be that of a primate

    foreigners GIVE BERMUDA THE MONEY WE BERMUDIANS NEED TO SURVIVE!!!!!

    get it through your thick STUPID HEADS

    • Double Standards says:

      Retards?

      Do you think it is a conicidence that Bermuda’s highest ever recorded GDP, under the reign of the PLP, occurred with the largest amount of work permits ever issued, again by the PLP?

      Do you think its is a coincidence that our GDP has recorded four consecurive years of decline which just happened to follow the trend of BDA’s declining population?

      Can you process that through your obviously above intelligent brain?

    • Rock Bottom says:

      Calm down, Greedy or you’ll give yourself an aneurysm…

  28. Appreciative says:

    Pay your rent!

    • Scoalsy says:

      Humm not paying rent for ten months, x ruling party been out for ten months hummmmm!!!!

  29. Colonial Greetings says:

    He is going to need $53,300 by the end of the month when November’s rent comes due.

  30. James Herald says:

    Business is business. Shine knew what he was getting in to. Blaming Rego is wrong – he is out fifty grand after all.

    Sad for everyone but Shine is ultimately responsible. Nice guy and all that – but he owes the money. How about if it was you he owed the money to?

    We should feel sorry for all involved.

  31. swing voter says:

    @ Greedy Snakes we all know the game….sometimes we want something so badly that we take a huge risk that may result in us loosing our shirt. No, Rego doesn’t need the money, yes he cudda patted shine on the back and said ‘go forth, thou sins are forgiven’. But its not the case. Seldom happens like that in the real world. He shudda closed up a long time back, before things got so bad, but I know how he feels, been there, its not easy to admit defeat. To Mr. Hayward, suck it up, pay your balance, and move on….plenty of opportunity ahead….just ask Rego ;-)

  32. Question says:

    I cannot support this as this is supporting bad behaviour – - there are reasons for the rent being in arrears – - and in these times where money is very tight, I believe we can find other “music” related causes that will benefit local musicians.

    I can provide a list if you would like . . .

    Q

  33. haha says:

    IT IS CALLED BUSINESS YOU DUMMY. I’m sure Rego and Shine are friends, hopefully, but it’s strictly business.

    OBVIOUSLY no one on here has run their own business. Greedy Snakes if someone owed you 50k would you let them month in and month out not pay you just because oh we should help him out, oh its bermudian spirit(WHICH FOR THE MOST PART IS AMAZING), etc. ITS A F***** BUSINESS BRA!! The strongest survive plain and simple.

  34. Prayerful says:

    To sum it all up: Shine is a really nice guy, and a brilliant musician. However, Shine has no business sense. How could he have an outstanding debt of $20,000 in September 2012, and still try to go on. A whole year has passed and he now owes $50,000, can he not see that he will never catch up.

    I commend those who have donated, but unless you raise enough to cover the $50k and rent for several months what’s the use. To quote, “the only people that will be happy, will be the Rego’s. They will take your $50k and still shut you down.

    It does not matter the state of the property, Shine knew it when he signed the lease, and it probably looked worse than it does now.

    • HumanComputer says:

      @Prayerful: Pride maybe? Sometimes people try to give the impression that all is good when it’s not, just to save face…but it backfires if your business gets splashed all over the news.

      Personally, I think it’s wrong for the daily to print this just because it’s a business. Yeah, they may deem it to be of public interest but you don’t see stuff like this printed about the dozens upon dozens of people who don’t pay their personal rent and gets taken to court for thousands upon thousands…and some of those cases end up in Supreme Court as well because of the large amounts owed. Those people get privacy so why should Mr. Haywards’ business get spread all over the place???

  35. Osmosis says:

    I’ll focus my comments on the positivity in this thread. Shine has taught music to countless children. He has also given countless hours of freebies to our community. These two items cannot be disputed.

    It is heart-warming to see that the Bermuda Spirit is alive and well. Numerous Bermudians found themselves short of funds because their mortgage was pulled. They were forced to depend on the Bermuda Spirit to get their houses built.

    Let’s talk a bit about Shines’s so called mismanagement of his business by way of example. After well over 150 years on Front Street, didn’t Trimmingham Brothers own their own business and building? What happened there?

    C’mon friends, cut Shine some slack. Let’s not be so judgmental. Perhaps as an act of goodwill, the Landlord may wish to renegotiate with Shine a rental contract they both can live with moving forward.

    In the meantime, would it be possible for the brilliant business minds in this thread to “donate” some of their time to help Shine? Just as he donated his time to our community.

  36. James Herald says:

    Osmosis I take your point but there are scores if not hundreds of stories in Bermuda just like Shine’s. Are we going to help all of them as well – let them off their rent and other bills? There are lots of ‘nice guys’ out there who are in trouble.

    Times are very bad on our tiny island and not likely to get better any time soon. Shine would do himself a favour by closing the business now before he gets deeper in debt.

  37. HeyBye says:

    As the saying goes give a man a fish he feeds himself for a day,teach him how to fish and he can feed himself for a life time.
    Same for business.

    • Sandy Bottom says:

      So you’re saying we shouldn’t buy him a fish?

      • HeyBye says:

        You can buy him a fish but what about tomorrow,the day after and so forth?

  38. Alvin Williams says:

    To all detractors and critics who are upset that Bermudians have chosen to help one their own; understand this; what makes you think that you can tell the rest of us where we should put our money? Bermuda has raise funds for any number of charitable distress calls over the years both local and international. IT’s about time we help and support one of our own. To those of you who don’t like it you can lump it. We will step up for this brother and may this flame of pro-Bermudian support spread.

  39. foldgers says:

    As someone who donated to this cause, i am unaffected by the negativity.. I donate to many causes and at least I know that the money I gave , went to the actual cause I was supporting. I cant believe some of the opinions expressed here, however I know that it is ones right to have… as is .. what I choose to do with my money