Murder Trial: David Cox Found Guilty

June 10, 2011

[Updated with videos] David Cox has been found guilty of murdering Troy “Yankee” Rawlins. The jury convicted him by unanimous verdict, and immediately after the verdict Mr Cox’s lawyer rose and asked that sentencing be delayed in order to allow mitigating factors to be submitted. Mr Cox was remanded in custody and will be sentenced at a later date.

Speaking after the verdict Detective Chief Inspector Nicholas Pedro said, “We have put a very dangerous man behind bars. Make no mistake, Bermuda is a very much safer place today with Mr Cox convicted for this murder. This was a brutal assassination of an unarmed and defenseless man.”

Mr Cox was the only person on trial, however there were two gunmen involved in Mr Rawlins murder. Detective Pedro said, “We move on to the second shooter, and there will be more to follow in that regard.”

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Justice Greaves finished his summation at approximately 11am this morning [June 10], and the jury started their deliberations in the case of David Cox, who stands accused of killing ‘Raymond Troy “Yankee” Rawlins in August of last year.

Mr Cox 32 of Club Road, Smiths was charged with premeditated murder and using a firearm to commit an indictable offence. He

During the trial the court heard that Mr Rawlins was shot 16 times, viewed the CCTV footage of the shooting and heard that Mr Cox’s DNA was found on both a baseball cap found by the crime scene and a glove found by the getaway car.

Mr Cox being lead away after being found guilty this afternoon:

Testimony was also presented that the guns used to kill Mr Rawlins were used in a number of other shootings, and that Mr Rawlins had ties to Parkside, while Mr Cox was said to have ties to 42nd. Mr Cox denied the charges on the stand saying “I did not shoot Yankee Rawlins.”

Detective Chief Inspector Nick Pedro and Assistant Commissioner David Mirfield speak after the verdict:

Mr Cox’s defence lawyer John Perry QC said that the Crown’s case hinged on three things. The eyewitness evidence and the forensic evidence of the DNA and the Gun Shot Residue [GSR] found on the hat and gloves.

Mr Perry said that even an “honest eyewitness can make a mistake,” and in dealing with the gloves, the hat, DNA and GSR, he said that the Crown has not proved how and when the DNA and GSR got on the gloves and hat.

In the Crown’s closing argument, the Prosecutor said that the killing was a premeditated act. She cited the fact that the Crown had shown evidence that someone had acquired a gun, had stolen a car that was used in the approach to the killing ground and as getaway transport, had disguised themselves with jackets, hats, and gloves; had waited for Mr Rawlins to arrive at the Spinning Wheel nightclub.

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  1. Chart says:

    Two people were involved in this: why is the other gunman never mentioned?

    • GPS says:

      Also…Why he didn’t get charged for the other murders associated with this gun???…..OBA, please address this

      • Great says:

        The reason that this man was not charged with the other murders associated with this gun is because there is no proof that he committed them. We also know that these guns are being shared so would you really want to put one man in prison for what many others have done? Just be happy that he is getting one charge of murder. Something is better than nothing.

        • GPS says:

          I’m quite sure that one shooter knows what the other shooter has done with a weapon….guilty by association….I believe if they charge one man with all the associated shootings this will make a man talk (snitch) because he/them will become tired of being accused and sentenced??…i don’t know

          • um no says:

            No you cant like great said you need proof. It still laws that have to be followed and like it or not there are safeguards to be protect the accused. They could use it as a threat but unless they have sufficient evidence the case would not even make it to court.

        • Truth says:

          That isn’t good enough. If he is not prepared to give up who he got the gun from, which would put the police on a path to unraveling the whole thing, the yes, he needs to be held accountable.

          • um no says:

            He is already getting life what more could they do to him….why he would he tell them anything he wouldnt get nothing out of it.

    • Bri says:

      I was thinking the same thing….

      • jbermy says:

        -bc they didn;t know who the other gunmen is to name him…and even if his guns were associated with other shootings there is no evidence that he owns the gun or carried out those shootings…but at least he has been found gilty of this crime and hopefully will be jailed for a long time!!

        • ignorance says:

          how about any person found with a gun or bullets serves a life sentence? our ignorance is ridiculous as a community… if the gun you are linked to is linked to other crimes and you have no comment on who ‘owns’ the gun or who u ‘lent’ it out to u serve the time!! This man shot someone 16 time!!!!!!!!!!

    • Bigus says:

      I agree the gangs mantra is “attack on you attack all” so if a weapon has been used in multiple offenses then anyone found to have committed an offense tied to that same weapon should then be charged with all related offenses connected to that gun. We can no longer continue to use this softly softly approach. Jack them up, knock them down and lock them up for a long long time.

      • um no says:

        Its not a soft approach its the law. The law deals with facts and evidence not emotions. He is still human with human rights like we all do even though his actions were inhumane.

  2. black male says:

    Free Coxy!

    • @ black male….to late! Guilty as charged…

      • GPS says:

        He’ll be free after twenty-five Cup Match games…..Twenty-five FA Cup Finals…..Twenty-Five General Elections….I Think…cause that’s Bermuda’s maximum these days.

    • Venj says:

      Doubt it.

    • Surfrider says:

      with every four gallons !

    • white christ says:

      Don’t worry, Bubba will be getting him some Free Coxy!

    • cheaa!!!! says:

      U NO DATT

  3. BermyGuy says:

    Nice to see The Crown sucessfully getting guilty verdict’s. Now lets start making the sentence’s imposed by The Judiciary suited to the convictions across the board.

  4. My two cents says:

    Now let’s just hope that the sentencing for premeditated murder is harsh at least 25 years with no appeal and no parole!

    • Terry says:

      Some comments, only a few so far are worrying about the sentencing.

      Worry more of who will be next…..QFF…..

  5. SWEETBLACK says:

    everyone deserved justice no matter what thay ahve done in there life.
    r.i.p. yankee
    when you start to think you are untouchable you get got

  6. SWEETBLACK says:

    i hope thay nail his a$$ to the wall
    this is justice for all
    i hope he sits in his cell and rots his life away. he has to live with the fact that he took a man’s life and now his is over

    • Surfrider says:

      probably get nailed to the shower wall

      • white christ says:

        Well he’s getting nailed, that’s for sure

    • SWEETBLACK says:

      can we all not glorify this beacuse this senseless murder has affected a lot of lives especially the children of the deceased. the jury must have had enough evidence to find him guilty.
      i have 1 piece of advise for the young man coming up now this is not how you should live. The money,cars etc may be nice for the moment but in that lifestyle you are constantly looking over your shoulder. just think before you act young black males.

    • cheaa!!!! says:

      oo really thats wat u thinkk

  7. Life in says:

    42 for life, more like 42years to life lock him up!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. lets be real says:

    We ask questions like? Who supplies the drugs? And who supplies the guns and bullets that are killing our children? We get the answer as citizens quicker then the gvt… However when that person ends up dead because the police couldn’t do there job we are puzzled and confused.

  9. LMNOP says:

    Keep ya head up coxy, just knw ya son is well taken care of n would want for nothing.

    • GPS says:

      He will want to know why his daddy is behind bars…

      Sad all the way around.

    • SWEETBLACK says:

      i am sorry i can’t have symphty for a man who takes another’s life. were he is going for the rest of his life not only will he have to keep his head up but he may just have to keep his back against the wall. let’s not forget although the victim in this case was —- he had a lot of friends

      • The mon says:

        what about for a man who spent his life destorying other peoples lives and families and influancing young man and women into a world of crime would you feel sorry for that person. Me I only feel sorry for their children because most of the adults around them know what these guys doing.

        • TRUE WORDS!! says:

          You hit the nail on the head!!! I wonder what sweetblack thinks about this?

        • Keepin It Real says:

          Most people kno de difference between right n wrong n with dat de r accountable for der own choices he neva put a gun to der heads n told dem do wateva dat was der choice but i would tell u 1 thing de man brought balance to de streets!

    • Truth says:

      @LMNOP- you still uttering that meaningless drivel?

  10. SWEETBLACK says:

    i feel for his son because he will never get to know his father and so history repeats itself
    i don’t know about everyone else but i am tired of this trend
    this should be an eye opener for men to get in their son’s lives if this don’t motivate you i don’t know what it will take.

    • Jamudian says:

      I agree. The cycle continues over and over again. for years Bermudian judiciary system in partnership with narrow minded selfish Bermudian women have perpetuated this cycle for years. Look at the laws directed and designed to separate fathers from their sons; and some bad\sad women buy into the silliness. Single mothers, / no fathers….what do u think will happen??? Take a lion out of the pride and see what happens to the lionesses and their cubs!!! The cubs die off from hyeinas and other lion males and the lionesses get used by the other males. A little out there analogy. But try hard to see where I’m coming from and where this is going….Lets not even mention race…. The white folks would disagree that race has anything to do with how things are going in the island. thats because they only trying to focus on the present and not the past. Past forges the future. Things that were done less than 60 years ago still affect. Not to mention how long it was going on for soo much longer before. Its E Z to disassociate your self when you dont have to go through the same every day struggles as the other man. Dont get me started!!! Everyday silly s&^t that Balck people encounter in very suttle ways. Just cause things are a lil more tolerant now…DOESNT erase the fact of the EVIL atrocities that were committed. And still to today they benefite…from what was done. Your kids have it easier and than our kids as a result. How does it not still affect??? Not trying to blame!!! Just want to point out the problem and bring identification. The first step to solving the problem in any situation is to first identify it and accept it for what it is…then move forward. Blacks, Whites, everyone.

  11. Stupid Comment says:

    His son will never be well taken care of completely. He is now going to miss out on one of the most important people in his life now which is his father! These man need to think about their children and what they are doing to them. Another child growing up without their father SMH over dumb bulls*#t!

    • GPS says:

      PTA meetings…Sports Day….Fathers Day lunches at school…Homework…..guidence…..stability….etc, etc will be sadly missed!

      Like SWEETBLACK, I’m also sick of this trend.

      Like Troy Anthony sings….”Gangster Life Gets You Nowhere”

  12. Real Talk says:

    You don’t get shot 16 times for nuffin…..not saying it was right but chickens gonna come to roost, don’t matter what set u rep, if you do things to others, someone will surely destroy you…

    • GPS says:

      He couldn’t punch him 16 times?..at least that would have got him a 3 year bid.

      Settling scores with a gun is coward business…and that goes for all gangsters.

      Like back in the day, roll them fist up and get down…show how hard you really are…..yew Zimmeee mi yewt.

      • Bryan says:

        @ GPS, I agree but you have to admit it is kinda hard to go one on one when they rollin at you 15 deep.

    • Dumb people says:

      Real talk your an A$$, no man has the right to take anther mans life. THAT’S REAL TALK!!!!!!!!

  13. WelchesGrapeJuice says:

    choices choices choices……..
    all thse men make choices …..
    system has failed most of them.
    WHY ARE WE MAKING EDUCATION CUTS IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR WHERE OUR CHILDREN NEED TO GROW AND LEARN TO MAKE GOOD CHOICES!?!?! Especially when they dont get it at home.
    The grown men have made their choices….we need to look at the youth and steer them in a positive direction…whether it be through creativity, sports, scholastic endeavors, trade schools, church…. there are so many outlets but no funding……..no wonder these kids feel kicked to the curb ………. many never got and will never get a chance as long as government keeps cutting the most crucial funding!!!

    • pullUpSelector says:

      now someone is finally making some sense!

    • Terry says:

      Grape Juice,…because everyone keeps drinking it. When the taste diifers, then we will see change.

      Just remember the Mayors of Detroit. Black Power.

      Detroit? Where’s that……….Hell…can’t even ‘a-FORD’ it……

      Bitchers moaners, thieves, et al. RIP Bda…………………….

    • Jamudian says:

      The education system that we have dont help the kids to learn to make choices. Its more like and industrial assembly line design to mass produce according to flawed ciriculum…Just like any industry and synonimous with changing times….things are made to break and cost and cutbacks make sure that the produce isnt too good as customers will never come back. Like G>E buying up light bulbs that never burn out and good year buying and shelving tires that never go flat or wear down. Cause customers will never come back as they would have no need to. Such is the education system!!! They use trial and error to judge what works well and cut back if it works too well!! Our educated MPS and politians came from an era of when the education system work and produced DR E.F Gordons and DR. Browns….too strong. They will over come…soo force cut backs. much deeper than meets the eye….TRUST. Cut backs are because of loans from places like IMF. Watch “Life and Debt” dvd. look it up!. Welcome to the real world BDA. The safety net has been removed and the parasites are creeping in for the kill.

      • Bryan says:

        Educate them my Brother, a lot of people don’t think past the first layer but we live in a multi-layered society! That is why certain powers within the Bermuda community are pushing young Bermudians toward a service oriented career, while it is nothing wrong with that type of work in general why is an entire society being groomed to serve rich visitors and residents instead of to be Doctors and international business people, industrial leaders and innovators etc…. The so called ILLUMINATED ( let there be understanding) Politicians, Bankers, Lawyers, and Big Business leaders wish to maintain the financially enslaved underclass otherwise they the power elite become impotent and powerless. Not realizing that they too are but cogs in a much bigger and more insidious machine. Marley , Pac and MJ started exposing the truth of the world. Study history and you will understand now and see the future.

    • Pastor Syl says:

      Well said, WelchesGrapeJuice! It seems every program that could have a positive impact on our most vulnerable citizens has been cut or is underfunded. Yet there are still no cuts in the salaries of the legislators. Hard to believe they care especially when the Premier can say she “sleeps well at night.”

      I have stopped tithing to a church and have begun tithing to underfunded programs that are trying to make a positive difference.

      I also intend to make my vote count, seeing as my voice has not been heard.

  14. Ignorance says:

    Having a gang member as a father what kind of influences or effects will that have? I feel for the families involved and affected and have to recently lost my father but our children need good role models in their life to guide and protect them.

  15. J says:

    another body in a cemetery… another young n$#ga in the penitentiary…

  16. SWEETBLACK says:

    this situation runs deeper than 42 vs parkside. these are young black males crying out for attention who for the most part grow up in a house with no father. not making excuses for them because everyone makes choices and has to live with their choices but the realty is that men NEED to get in their son’s lives TODAY or this will keep happening. i don’t know about the rest of bermuda but i am very tired of seeing, reading,hearing about BLACK males getting killed or shot. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

  17. confused? says:

    1. you reap what you sow!
    2. many families have been destroyed
    3. no a man doesn’t have the right to take another man’s life be it with a gun or with any other weapon but they are only fighting with guns these days so take your pick
    4. the ppl who have money are funding drugs and guns these (street)gangsters do not have excess to that kinda money they are just the runners who are willing and dumb enof to get caught
    5. q.c.’s are funded thru legal aid they dont pay for them either
    6. Agreed – No winners ever
    7. unfortunately before the end of june more than likely it’ll be another murder or shooting – definite pattern
    8. no one obviously has found the solution all we can do is come on bernews and talk about the persons involved.
    but what is clear is that bernews allows us to see how closely connected these issues are to one another once ppl start to comment on one another story always gets intertwined job losses mp fighting education cuts if we can’t see the picture and some of the reasons for the whole circle of crap. enof said

  18. Blessed says:

    He Has a DAUGHTER! Hellooooooo get the facts right!

    • TMI says:

      true say if he does, still why put his ish on here.. Think b4 u wanna say something.. Keep this ish to yaself like i said. U neva kno wht the minds of these guys think of.. CODE keep certain things 2 self..

  19. buzy says:

    @ WelchesGrapeJuice now this is Real Talk, I have being preaching this for years but until Bermuda sits up and understands that alot of youth have suffered from the system failing them by kicking them out on the streets then bermuda will never be the same. So on a real with have to make sure that the system does not fail the next generation coming up. Because this problem will never end if they are not getting the proper education.

    An yes we can talk about parents but remember they went through this same system if you look at at the ages of the youth being incarcerataed, today and you add it all up. If there where put out on the streets at the age of 16 in there times and cant read and write how they suppose to teach them. Just my Opinion not an argument

    Brcause it is not nice to take another life, and I do not condone this but this could have being prevented if the UBP never change the scholl system.

  20. buzy says:

    Sorry for the spelling errors just sick and tired of the crap.

  21. BABY JESUS says:

    Mr. Cox will be surrounded by them now.

  22. Notorious says:

    It’s crazy to me how people will sit up here and defend a murderer and claim they are a good person. Really? How so? I don’t care if they are family or friends I would feel the same way if it were my family or friends who did it. It doesn’t matter what the murder victim did you have no right to take someones life and only a coward would shoot an unarmed man 16 times. All these guys think they are tough but are really insecure little boys in a mans body, running in packs, using weapons etc. Cowards.

    • ignorance says:

      Thank u for seeing the truths behind the ignorance…. it amazes me wat we as a community focus on, thrive on, and defend!!!

  23. Where has Beautiful Bermuda gone says:

    I am in no way condoning what Yankee stood for, because like all these wannabe thugs he was using up space. BUT NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANOTHER MAN’S LIFE NO ONE, ONLY GOD has that right

    • Keepin It Real says:

      R u serz right now how u gonna call yankee a wannabe thug…plz think before u talk!!!

  24. Terry says:

    After reading all these comments, well yes they are, the level of frustraion is so high that it will not be long before vegence takes hold again.

    Bernews is an avenue but the reality is is it really. Never in my life have I read such hate, blame.

    You reap what you sow. Bernews is reaping what. Probabley a vessel for this. Nothing further to say except I feel something and you will feel it soon.

  25. Terry says:

    Cox has a daughter not a son, not that it really makes a difference!

  26. Missy says:

    Ok, now they found Yankees killer, locked him up, tried his case and found him guilty. BUT what about the rest of Bermuda’s solders that have been put into the ground before and after Yankee was shot dead and there is nobody to answer for their murders………………..?

    By the way an Assassination is a killing of a prominent person for political or ideological reasons. Assassination dates back to the earliest forms of government, with the killing of Philip II of Macedon, the father of Alexander the Great. Some of the more recent well-known assassinations include those of Abraham Lincoln, President John F. Kennedy, and Martin Luther King.

    And I will not dear compare Yankee to any of these great men. So he was murdered and shot dead! Assassinated please give me a break

    • Notorious says:

      Gosh I wish you all would stop calling these guys soldiers. They are doing what they can, David Cox turned himself in and they had evidence which equals a conviction. Not all cases are that lucky, some never get solved and some of still pending.

      • William says:

        Missy, David Cox is no soldier. He is a two bit two block drug dealer gangster. I know Bermuda can at times be removed from reality, but please refrain from putting such an honourable title on common thugs. Planes are arriving daily to airports around the US and Bitain carrying home the bodies of real soldiers who paid the ultimate sacrifice. David Cox is not in their league and represents everything wrong with our society.

        Aside from that, congrats to the BPS and the DPP. One less thug on the streets.

  27. Larry E Smith says:

    Congrats to the BPS on another good conviction.

  28. Preto Plato says:

    Menace to society, I doubt with his behaviour he’ll ever get out of Prison. Good to see juries not letting these idiots off.

  29. white christ says:

    There’s plenty of Cox where he’s going.

    • Preto Plato says:

      LMAO.. Oh that was a good one!

      • Young Bermudian 16 says:

        White Christ! That is very immature!
        And they walk among us! Can we talk as if we are educated and not foolish!
        I have a relative that works at Westgate and just to inform you the Sugar Tanks are not running around up there on the ironic side they are out here married working amongst the adults day to day!SMH to that one!

        • White Christ says:

          One day, when the novelty of post-adolescence wears off and you no longer have to prove that you are a mature teenager, you’ll have a sense of humor. Until then, expect criminals up Westgate to be the ‘butt’ of my jokes.

          • FYI--Mercy says:

            @White Christ– I thought they were funny and definitely broke up the monotony and self-hatred diffused through this forum.

            Butt Cox…. Good one..

        • White Christ says:

          Oh and reeeal mature of you calling homosexuals ‘Sugar Tanks’. I don’t think they’ll take too kindly to that ‘uneducated’, ‘foolish’, and….oh….here it comes….’immature’ insult! See what happens when you clench your cheeks too tight? Can’t smell your own farts!

          • Young Bermudian says:

            Sounds like you have more growing up to do then me! Sick minded! And you are the generation to come before me! Lord help us all! :-(

            • White Christ says:

              ????But you just called people ‘Sugar Tanks’???? nvm
              I have a lot more growing than you, learning than you and, ultimately living than you to do. Thank GOD!

              Maturity is as dynamic and elusive as mapping the universe. It is not some static position or destination on a linear scale by which you can measure how close or far one is from it. So to think that you know how much growing you have to do whereby you can compare it to my spiritual journey is nothing short of arrogant, immature and shows just how myopic you are!
              If you were truly mature you’d stop hiding behind the protective cloak of blamelessness your age-bracket affords you! Step out of the reclusive comfort of your mantle and claim your place in THIS generation of which we are ALL a part! Newsflash! WE ARE THE SAME GENERATION!
              You FAIL! Now go clean your ‘sugar tank’.

          • ppl r human beings n deserve to b treated with respect no matter where they come from or wt race they r says:

            lmao

  30. THAT_BERMUDIAN_GUY says:

    I hope someone penetrates him more than sixteen times!!!!!!!! (GIGGITY)
    Dont drop the soap B,, bahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!

  31. Face the Nation says:

    …As Greaves runs up , right hand over the wicket … And He’s OUT FOR 25 runs on the board ,MY MY MY What a Over Here AT MY LORDS BAY …

  32. John Stuart Mill says:

    These men live in a state of nature which the ancient philosopher John Stuart Mill
    described as the life without the advantages of a civil society would be nasty, brutish and short. There would be no restrictions on what one may do to another, and these individuals will live in constant fear of being robbed or most commonly killed. Its a war of all against all and the only way that these individuals can escape this nature- according to him, is by coming into cooperation with one another (forming a social contract) which pretty much implies that I am willing to follow these rules and laws as long as you agree to do so as well. While the majority of us abide to this social contract as it is the only means of obtaining a civil society, these men live in there own world. And it is in our nature that humans are naturally self-interested meaning, all our actions are motivated to satisfy our own wants and pursue the greater happiness and improve our current situation by any means possible. However, while the CIVIL beings go about this in the right way (i.e we work for what we desire) these men prove that they live in this state of nature where although there is a sovereign to inflict laws and consequences, they themselves do not care and for them- being locked up is not the ultimate consequence.

    The Utilitarianism principle states that the state is only allowed to interfere when the action of one is causing harm on others. That is to say, they may not interfere with what people do unless they are causing harm on others-meaning the MAJORITY. These ‘gang members’ do not count as the majority of society, rather they count as the MINORITY. And the principle pretty much states that as long as the MAJORITY is content then that is all that matters.

    I say that to say, while there are A LOT of concerns and a lot of people going out of there way to try and stop the violence they are NOT the MAJORITY of our society. In order for a change to occur we must show the government that its not just this group, and that group of people who are upset. WE ALL MUST COME TOGETHER AS ONE AND SHOW THEY WE, BERMUDA, THE PEOPLE ARE FED UP WITH THIS BS. Once that happens, the government will have no other choice but to intervene and do whatever it takes to produce the GREATER GOOD, OR GREATER HAPPINESS OF THE MAJORITY.

    • Keepin It Real says:

      Some good stuff der by John Stuart Mill but wateva happen to de sayin am i my brothers keeper r u sayin dat we shld round up de minority n forget bout dem i hope n pray none of your sons daughters or cousins r a part of de minority!

      • jamudian says:

        NO…>>He is saying to come together and give the government a reason to activate! Right now a whole lot of talking and little action is being done. He is not saying to ignore it and live your life separate. UNITY is the key….It seems like election day is the most important day each 4-5 years. just about the whole country turns out to vote; but when or if a rally is organized to stop the violence: just a few hundred come out. Yet everyone complains about the violence and government and youths and everything but taking some resposiblity as a citizen or resident in the island. We all have to share the pie of responsiblity in this!

        • wondering says:

          no truer words than this…it all never matters until they are related to you OR it is election time. Sinners and relidious persons, atheists and all others have one thing in common….we are all human. start in the womb. once people are born it is too late. look on face book and u will see people as young as 3 with 30 – 40 yr olds thugged out.

          “It’s just a style………it is only clothes”….blah blah blah. If it is then why express a negative outlook with the gang symbols that go with SOME (DID YOU SEE THAT I SAID SOME) not ALL of the thugged out style……

        • Keepin It Real says:

          Dat was well said jamudian but sometimes i wonder if dey even care…de government dat is all dey wanna do is tell u wat u wanna hear den afta de election is ova dey dnt deliver talk bout tired of a cycle um tired of dat 1. At de end of de day it dnt matter who is in power UBP PLP dey all for dem selves n on top of dat it isnt any unity wif in de partys so really wat r we waitin on dem for…like u said we de familys need to come to gatha if we want bermuda back but i dnt c it happenin cuz of de times everybody strugglin to deal wif der own stuff let alone help out sme1.

  33. whistling Frog says:

    System has failed them?? SMH… So what about those people that paid attention listen to their parents and became productive citizens? I never finished high school, I did nothing but messed around and played hooky most of the time, chasing girls and messing up my life, just about knew how to read when I was told my time was up… Then the real world smacked me dead in the face. I was hanging around friends like me, going nowhere fast.

  34. Gully God says:

    Stay up Coxy. They all scared of u.

    • OU812 says:

      LMAO – noone is scared of him now! Without a gun – a dog with no teeth. Enjoy the view Coxy!

  35. Big D says:

    Fact this man is a menace to society and those of us who are honest enough will say thank God and good riddance. I agree with Gully God ‘Stay up coxy’. Stay up at WESTGATE.

  36. FYI--History 099 says:

    The Talented Tenth by WEB DuBois: http://www.yale.edu/glc/archive/1148.htm

    Just a quick snippet: Published 1903

    The Negro race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men. The problem of education, then, among Negroes must first of all deal with the Talented Tenth; it is the problem of developing the Best of this race that they may guide the Mass away from the contamination and death of the Worst, in their own and other races. Now the training of men is a difficult and intricate task. Its technique is a matter for educational experts, but its object is for the vision of seers. If we make money the object of man-training, we shall develop money-makers but not necessarily men; if we make technical skill the object of education, we may possess artisans but not, in nature, men. Men we shall have only as we make manhood the object of the work of the schools—intelligence, broad sympathy, knowledge of the world that was and is, and of the relation of men to it—this is the curriculum of that Higher Education which must underlie true life. On this foundation we may build bread winning, skill of hand and quickness of brain, with never a fear lest the child and man mistake the means of living for the object of life. . .

  37. FYI--Just A Thought aka History 099 says:

    I should’ve also included in WEB DuBois’ deduction that he also states that it is the responsibility of the TALENTED TENTH to help/educate the NON-TALENTED 90%.

    Potent to say the least…

  38. United says:

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

    A great thinker said this; Thomas Jefferson

  39. KEEP IT REAL says:

    WHEN YANKEE WAS MURDERED PEOPLE WERENT SURE WHETHER TO BE HAPPY OR SHOCKED I GUESS IT WAS A BIT OF BOTH.

  40. Terry says:

    Thank you 099. Acurate, complete and does show failings. I hope many pulled up the link.

    Regards

    Terry.

  41. k says:

    there should be an ‘ adopt a thug’ program ! reabilitate the thugs , our children have a chance of looking up to possitive rather than negative !!!!! talk to the ‘gangsters’ every chance you get . we all know one .

  42. MinorMatters says:

    TO John Stuart Mill – The point you raise are indeed valid. On a minor note: the philospher whose words you quote was scribed by the late Thomas Hobbes and the full quote is as follows:
    “Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of Warre, where every man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them withall. In such condition, there is no place for Industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continuall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short.”

  43. Eye4Neye says:

    Guns kill man; Drugs KILL families. There are two dangerours people off our streets in this case.

  44. Words of Warning says:

    We at war with terrorism, racism, and most of all we at war with ourselves…

    God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down…

    The only thing that that I pray is that my feet don’t fail me now…

    And I don’t think there is nothing I can do now to right my wrongs…

    I want to talk to God but I’m afraid because we ain’t spoke in so long…

    To the hustlers, killers, murderers, drug dealers even the strippers,

    To the victims of Welfare for we living in hell here….

    Now hear ye hear ye want to see Thee more clearly,
    I know he hear me when my feet get weary…

    I ain’t here…to convert atheists into believers…

    …I hope this take away from my sins
    And bring the day that I’m dreaming about,
    Next time I’m in the club everybody screaming out…

    God show me the way because the devil trying to break me down.

    These serial killing HUMANS need to stop before it is too late because even if you don’t answer to a judge here on Earth, or spend a day in prison, the Day of Judgement WILL COME when you WILL have to answer to THE highest authority-The Almighty.

    The only sin that is unforgiveable is blasphemy and every time you take a life you commit blasphemy, because you put yourself in the place of the one who gave life. It was His to give and not up to any earthly man to take.

    The Devil is laughing his head off at all those souls he’s getting. Look around us-is this not the end of days?

    The Devil is trying to break you down but don’t let him win. God will right the wrongs that were done-stop the killings now and let God deal with it IN HIS TIME-PLEASE!