Videos: PLP Elect Marc Bean And David Burt
[Updated with videos. Marc Bean has retained the PLP leadership, defeating Walton Brown by a vote of 85 - 9 in tonight's internal party election. David Burt defeated Michael Weeks by a margin of 76 - 18 for the position of Deputy.]
The Progressive Labour Party will be hosting their Annual Delegates Conference at the Devonshire Rec this evening [Oct 23], where all positions on the Party Executive will be open for election inclusive of the Leader and Deputy Leader.
MP Walton Brown has already confirmed has put his name for the position of Party Leader, a position which is presently held by Marc Bean.
MP Derrick Burgess presently holds the position of Deputy Leader, and it is not clear at this time if Mr. Burgess intends to stand for the position again, with speculation existing that MPs Michael Weeks and David Burt may put themselves forward for the Deputy position.
The last PLP internal election was held in December 2012, after Paula Cox lost her seat, which saw Marc Bean being elected the new Party Leader by a margin of 111 – 35 over Terry Lister, who later left the party and to sit in the House as an Independent, with his recent retirement paving the way for the upcoming bye-election.
The election before that, in October 2010, saw three MPs put themselves forward, with Paula Cox winning with 124 votes, Terry Lister receiving 39, while Dale Butler finished with two votes.
In order to stand for the position of leader, the person must be an elected MP, and as of now the PLP MPs are Lovitta Foggo, Derrick Burgess, Wayne Furbert, Glenn Blakeney, Walter Roban, Michael Weeks, Walton Brown, David Burt, Rolfe Commissiong, Lawrence Scott, Marc Bean, Zane DeSilva, Randy Horton, Kim Wilson, Dennis Lister and Michael Scott.
Update 6.45pm: The Conference is getting underway now, with numerous MPs filing in. A flyer is being handed out, indicating that Michael Weeks will be running for Deputy.
Update 7.10pm: A quick look at inside
Update 10.52pm: Marc Bean has retained the PLP leadership, defeating Walton Brown in tonight’s internal party election, winning 85 votes to Mr. Brown’s 9. David Burt defeated Michael Weeks for the position of Deputy.
Update 12.27am: Video of PLP elected leader Marc Bean and deputy David Burt added below.
Update 12.43am: Video of PLP MP Walton Brown added below.
Update 10.13am: A statement from the PLP said, “Last night at the Progressive Labour Party’s Annual Delegates Conference, the delegates selected as their Party Leader, Mr. Marc Bean JP MP, and as their Deputy Leader, Mr. E. David Burt JP MP.
“Mr. Bean defeated Mr. Walton Brown MP 85 votes to 9, and Mr. Burt defeated Mr. Michael Weeks JP MP 76 votes to 18.
“Selected to continue as Party Chairman was Mr. Maynard Dill. The Party also wishes to thank outgoing Deputy Leader, Mr. Derrick Burgess JP MP for his four years of service in this capacity.”
Please keep Bean in the position!!!!
Don’t let anyone panic yet! The sun will still rise in the east and set in the west. These two haven’t become the leaders of the Bermuda Government, they are still the Opposition…
Weed, gambling shop and unlicenced alchohol.
Moral fibre of the PLP
SMDH
so alcohol is better and okay if it’s licensed and ay? smh. gambling is cool as long as it’s from Seahorses huh? …’if you’re going to smoke that stuff, just do it in the house, kids! out of sight!’..many of us know who says this! none of these 3 things are only done by one party or one group of people….
…Moral fibre of the rich and wealthy or just ‘morally discreet’ from day one. :-/
Abiding by the law is vital for the leadership of a country.. The tone at the top had to be right.
If the leaders don’t follow the law, then why shold it’s people.
PLP messed up (again)
You don’t have to be rich and wealthy to apply for a license and it certainly isn’t a secret to ANYONE that this is the case. Furthermore, I would expect a man that you wish to be called a “leader” would know this.
Furthermore, nobody panicked because he announced that HE smoked weed. People were outraged because he gave it to marijuana tea to a toddler!!!! Keep in mind that 20 years ago nobody knew the affects of marijuana, there was no easy access to information and studies on marijuana. He took a crap shoot with his child’s life and future! That is why people were outraged.
@Say what Now, those smoke screen distractions don’t work on most people anymore. However, if you keep your head turned long enough I guess you can say that you didn’t see it. And if you pretend you didn’t see it, you can pretend that you didn’t know.
Whatever is convenient for you.
You have for to be kidding. May be in your little world, twenty years ago no body knows about the effects of weed. As long as people have been existence, the effects of weed have been known. You choose to ignore thousands of years of history for US drug companies Brain Wash Education.
Well, I hope there is a leadership challenge. No offence to Mr. Bean, but he is not Premier material…at least, not at this time.
Also on a different but somewhat related note, Mr. Burt is not Finance Minister material either.
I really do not think Premier Bean and Finance Minister Burt would inspire confidence. The PLP have a good chance at winning the next election, but this combo, in these roles, are not exactly inspiring.
Who would be best for the Finance Minister position though? Can’t be Kim as she’s a lawyer and people are nervous about having a lawyer as Finance Minister after Paula
The Finance Minister does not need to be an MP. Hopefully the PLP has someone within their ranks who has a strong business and finance acumen whom they can appoint to the Senate and then make Finance Minister if need be.
I do not know who the PLP has, so I cannot say who is ‘best’. However, I really do not think Burt is equipped to handle the finances of the country…and I do not think he will be equipped by the next election.
Actually, the Finance Minister does have to be an MP – see section 61(1)(b) of the Constitution.
I disagree. I personally think Paula was very capable and most people had no problem with her or her abilities. However, it became apparent early that she had to do what she was told , or she was out.
I would much rather have seen Walton Brown as leader because he seems to have the countries best interests at heart. I don’t often agree with his ideas but I have always thought his heart was in the right place.
Bean has proven to be a power hungry DB protégé who talks before he thinks and acts like a bully towards anyone that does not think like him or agree with him. One day he may be great, however, he is to immature in his thin kinging for many to stand by him as a leader. The die hard PLP will stand by him, but until he starts leading with his conscience instead of trying to mirror his “mentor” and taking direction from him he will continue to push those that have supported the party in the past, away.
Sorry…but if she was capable and stood by submissively while following direction as the finances of our country went down the toilet just to maintain her position then that is worse than simply being incompetent with respect to the position. In either case (perhaps both) she failed.
I would think the performance of “finance ministers” or those acting in similar capacities ub most developed nations could be viewed as a failure post-2008. Add to the fact we have one of the least diversified economies in the 20th century only adds to that percieved failure here. The fact we have seen little to no recovery under the new finance minister should send the message home clearly at this point fore those who doubt the facts of Bermuda ongoing financial woes…
We are in the 21st Century, not the 20th.
No, I don’t think you could view most developed nations as a failure post 2008. what do you base your view on????
Do you just make stuff up?????
You’re using big words but don’t seem to understand what they mean.
Most of the financial damage in other countries was done prior to 2008 and the recession for them was just the day of reckoning.
For us the damage occurred 2005-present and our true day of reckoning has yet to come (and let’s hope it doesn’t).
The debt for us was caused by over-spending to the tune of $300 million a year, the recession was caused by population decline. These are two totally separate issues.
Big words… really? Strange response tot he use of basic English…
To your “points” believing what simply accomodates your biased perspective doesnt change the reality of whats going on…
Have to agree with JT on this. Our last Finance Minister did a poor job; no way of glossing it over. When Bermuda needed a sound Finance Minister, she dropped the ball. Nothing personal, just facts. If she was the CFO of a company she would have been FIRED. Recently the Premier made mention to cutting losses on money owed to the Government; the Finance Minister quickly assured this was NOT the case. Now this may be looked at as a break down in communication by the OBA, or a misunderstanding of exactly what the Premier was saying; but the Finance Minister made it CLEAR, it was NOT the case.
The Finance Minister has a job to do and will be judged at the end of the day on the job they done. NO excuses as to not having the power? If you are not able to do your job than your reputation will be tarnished because you got thrown under the bus. Our last Finance Minister can not blame others and reference being a COG. This is a Countries finances we are talking about, and our next generations will suffer for it.
Walton Brown wants independence at all costsspite Bermuda not wanting it. How does such a selfish agenda “have the countries best interests at heart”
Yes, and while I admire Kim, she did present a speech at the U.N. I believe; portraying Bermuda as one of the Territories that is an example of a case for Independence.
Still confused at her policies on this and why with over 80% of the population stating other-wise, why she did that?
IMO
Nah..the nightmare 14 years is too fresh in everyone’s mind. We’re all still paying for the mess they left behind.
The nightmare wasn’t 14 years long, maybe 7, but definitely not 14 years.
About time a PLP admitting it, a 7 year nightmare !!!!!!!!
Pretty sure those same 7 years were a nightmare for many other developed western economies as well. Now why do you think that is – the PLP???
Ian/JS, you mean like now when Bermuda is still suffering with nothing left in her coffers and the rest of the world economies have rebounded? Now why do you think that is – the PLP??
JS? Whats that about?
So now your trying to compare the rebounding of highly diversified, leading economies to Bermuda’s that has a portfolio of two “stocks” – Tourism and IB. The latter or which is mostly insurance which is under more pressure these fast few years than its ever seen???
You’re are realy joker if you cant get your head around how ridiculous you sound…
Nope. The other developed western countries were in and out of recession in 12-15 months. Not 7 years. Our recession was home-made.
Tell that to the countless unemployed in those countries that could give a damn about the “technical” definition of a recession…
The unemployed numbers have been reducing in those countries since 2009. In Bermuda we have been consistently losing jobs. Thanks to Paula etal encouring companies to leave. It was a home-grown recession. The PLPs gift to Bermuda was long-term unemployment.
whatever you say Creamy…
Sorry it definitely started 14 years ago. You do remember the Proactive / Berkeley project. A contract that was given to a company with no previous track record! I believe that one was $40 million over budget! Around the same time was the T-Street / BLDC scandals. What did that one cost us again.
Walton Brown isn’t Premier material either.
PLP is me,myself and I.
This is not a party that works together for a better Bermuda.
Then why did the island experience its peak economic activity under their tenure?
Because a) they let the economy overheat and now b) didn’t put any $ aside while during the peak economic activity so now we have nothing, so we do have something…$2BILLION IN DEBT
lol… Real Rhodes Scholar you are!
Because they borrowed and spent like crazy. On stupid stuff.
If I sold all my possessions, borrowed as much as I could, and spent like crazy I could have a really fun couple of years as well. But then the money would run out and I’d have to pay back the loans.
And funny enough to your analogy, how many PEOPLE did exactly that – both OBA/UBP and PLP supporters? Borrowed and spent like crazy. And why is it you dont talk about the banks who lent like crazy as if there were no end in sight to the boom times?
No, the government did that. They hired thousands of civil servants we don’t need. And paid hundreds of millions to “inner circle” overseas consultants. And built Grand Atlantic. And made property owners rich, the owners of flashy court buildings. And threw party after party. Lavish trip after lavish trip. Pockets were lined. And how did they pay for it? By spending every last penny they had, and then spending $2bn they didn’t have. They sold us and generations after us to foreign banks. We used to be financially independent; now we aren’t. All our future earnings are owned by foreign banks. The PLP sold us and generations of Bermudians to foreign banks, in return for trinkets.
PLP were just lucky 9/11 2001 & huricanes Katrina, Wlima & Rita in 2005.
I would concur with Balaced Facts. Please please keep Mr Bean at the helm.
The PLP cannot possibly win an election with him as their leader.
Sure they can. The UBP lost an election with a very popular Premier (Gordon) and the PLP won an election with a very unpopular Premier (Brown).
It’s all about the constituencies.
If the argument that the OBA is the old UBP resurrected, that’s fine. But I think that there really is no one in the PLP that is Premier material. Maybe there is but I don’t see it. What I mean to say is that the well is running dry (or has it already?) on fresh new talent in Bermuda politics. Or even anyone that can grow into certain roles and be likeable to everyone.
If anything Premier Dunkley is the only MP, in my view, that has a cross over appeal. Many may not like the OBA but they like him and he’s approachable.
OBA is not the old UBP. Nothing like it.
More UBP in the PLP today.
What a big lie. Gibbons,Dunkley,Moniz, Richards, Pamaplin, Simons, and others all UBPOBA
Aaaand all of them were there when the economy rocked and any Bermudian who wanted a job had one.
It’s the myth of the demonic UBP out to destroy the working man … by giving him a job.
Absurd.
Aaaand the island saw the best of its economic performance during PLP years…
Aaaand no one claims they’re out to destroy the working man but rather how obvious it is they dont put them first.
If you disagree, sit down with a pen and paper, list the things the OBA/UBP has done over the past 2 years to directly benefit foreigners, expats, spouses of Bermudians, PRC holders and compare that to the list you conjure up of things they have done to directly benefit average Bermudians… Have fun with that.
Aaaand the “best economic performance” under the PLP was happening solely because the PLP was putting generations of Bermudians in debt, selling us out to foreign banks.
Seregeti…thanks for telling Ian like it is. He lack of understanding and or willingness to forget how we got into this mess is scary
No thats just the standard response for OBA/UBP supporters when someone doesnt share their perspective on WHO TO BLAME… They just dont understaaaand…lol
Actually it was because the pillar of our economy – reinsurance – saw the best years of their existence…
Reinsurers were racking up record profits until 2013. So there goes that PLP myth.
I’m sorry… did you just suggest that the local reinsurance industry was in a better state in 2k13 than it was during the PLP’s tenure. Take a walk over the the ACE/XL/Endurance/Renaissance/Tokio Millennium/Partner Re/Ariel Re/Axis/etc buildings, stand in the foyer and shout that out loud. That stand there and watch as their staff laugh at your “blissful” ignorance.
Latest up for election #33 is ex UBP.
In this coming election it is 100% UBPPLP v 100% OBA
PLP Completely overlooked PLP and chose UBPPLP.
But the PLP has the last two former LEADERS of the UBP, Furbert and Swan , don’t they!?
God your delusional. So sad.
It’s “you’re” not “your”.
Having a hard time keeping up when there are grammatical errors???
Looks like he/she had no problem keeping ahead of you.
I guess the OBA is hoping for Bean to hold the position. There is really only one who has any depth of character. Too bad the rest are a bunch of political lightweights. As 2008 to 2012 showed dictatorships do not. Running Bermuda is a team effort of competant people.
I have started a Marc Bean support group called Don’t Unseat Marc Bean (or DUMB for short).
It would be a disaster for Bermuda if the PLP took back power. With Marc Bean at the helm, that disastrous possibility remains less likely.
Tonight is a testing time for DUMB and for Marc Bean but, with your support, we will get through it and Marc Bean will remain as leader.
So join DUMB today and, if you are eligible, vote Marc Bean at the delegates’ conference to keep Marc Bean as PLP leader!!!!
As much as I am not a PLP supporter, I don’t think personal insults are the way to go.
I think we should raise the debate a lot more than what you’ve said above, Sandman.
He’s right. The best thing for Bermuda is for Bean to stay in charge of the PLP. It gives them little chance of ever being elected.
On behalf of DUMB I respectfully disagree. Marc Bean is the King of the Zingers, the Lord of the Lewd Comment, the Prince of Peevishness. He considers it a bad week if he hasn’t managed to offend a whole class of good citizens or get sued for defamation.
His knack of losing friends and alienating people through insulting them is why DUMB is so keen to keep him in charge. Join our DUMB delegates and support Marc Bean!!!
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
Dictatorships do not WORK
I hate phone keys.
Is Ganga tea being served?
Mr.Bean says it cured his infant’s asthma.Medical experts say there is no cure,go figure.
No matter who the PLP select as leader he/she cannot come close to Premier Dunkley.
Marijuana is a bronchiodilator, which means that it helps you breathe better by opening the passages to your lungs.“I have had asthma my whole life and have been hospitalized multiple times, I began smoking marijuana at age 13. I am 18 now and I have not had to go to the hospital for asthma since!!! It has gotten drastically better. The only thing that seems to bother my lings are blunts lol if you have asthma I recommend using a vaporizer or other ways of using marijuana other than smoking it I say volcano all the way!!!!!”– Chad October 27th, 2008
It is likely whoever “Chad” is, outgrew childhood asthma.
Kim Wilson is the only one with anywhere near what it takes. Remember the PLP now has former UBP members in it so the PLP is now the new UBP.
Yes but look at what she has to work with. It is like leading a kindergarten class on an outing. They can’t do anything without close & constant supervision.
It is amazing how you bigots think. You could take the same individuals from the PLP and transfer them to the OBA and they would become valuable in the eyes of you jokers. But because they are members of the PLP they have no value. From the reactiom to your Finance Minister and the OBA at the recent meeting held in Hamilton, the OBA is in a lot of trouble. Most of the prople there came to the conclusion that the OBA cannot be trusted. That place was packed to the rafters. By the way Mr. Burt is a well educated individual and would make an excellent Finance Minister. You would have to convince me that Mr. Dunkley is the only person who can lead this country. Being the leader and selling milk is a whole different kettle of fish. He hasn’t proven himself as yet. Let us see when he is faced with the real difficult issues.
How are you with bigots who tweet messages about shooting people and burning down Bermuda?
Her most recent media showed weakness IMHO. I was dissapointed, as I thought she may be able to change the PLP into something good for Bermuda and Bermudians.
One of the few benefits of Gonzalo was the demonstration that we can all pull together when the need arises….political trash talking will now resume….sadly
Three months is not a long time to clean up because I don’t see anyone else volunteering to clean up the rest of the island that are qualified to know how to plant trees back and from a young persons point of view the amount of males that out of jobs right now Maybe the gov can create more jobs so the island can get back together property because the only other people who will help are Gardener’s who have business of their own
Govt not here to create jobs. Plus the government is broke remember?
Kim Wilson would be perfect but not leading these misfits.
She needs to leave and form another party.
I am a diehard PLP suppoter but with the MP’s we have now
and the leader we have now, I do not see no direction and there are
no solutions coming from them to fix our economic woes.
We need to get rid of party politics, NOW!
Kim Wilson could head up a party of independent candidates, the IPP.
Independent Peoples Party.
Oxymoron.
Yeah. It’s no longer independent if they’re part of a party, Kevin.
MORON
Kevin Williams are you crazy? Out down that cup of marijuana tea before you open your mouth. Kim Wilson? Have you list your mind? Really? Wow!!
Peoples Popular Front? Popular Peoples Front of Judea?
SPLITTERS!
I don’ t see a lot of young People, look like grandpa party gathering
Wow,the PLP do not have much to choose from.
Can you imagine what Bermuda would be like if we elected another PLP govt?
Oh God please don’t. We don’t need repeat of that. I think they’ve had way too many chances and at this rate I do not see anyone who is of Premier material in the PLP. Not one person. Honestly I think the OBA is really trying and I think they can somewhat clean up the mess the PLP left behind for then. Give them a chance, Dunkley hasnt been in power that long.
No matter who’s in power they both f us over & my young generation is realizing this so don’t be surprised if we never vote for these people & what we really need is a party that speaks there mind & doesn’t play around with petty politics
Go for it, YoungBermy. There was that RestoreBda group a while back that promised something new, but if there is enough motivation among the youth to break from traditional party politics, nothing stopping them from becoming a pressure group with long term aims to supply viable candidates in he next election. The move varied voices, the better.
So get involved @Young Bermy !
Well well well! The OBA must be celebrating tonight. Their worst nightmare of Kim Wilson being PLP party leader has not come to be.
Way to go PLP delegates!
The OBA can only celebrate when they find out how many voters the PLP has lost because of Marc Beans leadership on the other
side of the coin how many supporters have the PLP has gained since becoming the Opposition Leader.
Nothing for the OBA to celebrate here!
Elections ended at 19-17 OBA
Then became 19-15 (after Lister and Horton).
Now with Simmons winning it will become 19-16.
If Horton steps down as Speaker and OBA is forced to put up a Speaker from its party, then it will become 18-17 OBA….precarious majority.
If ONE OBA MP shifts, then it becomes 18-17 PLP, as the Speaker can only vote in case of a tie.
OBA could be in serious trouble if Speaker Horton steps down.
keep dreaming while the rest of Bermuda is rebuilding….literally
It’s not a question of dreaming or wishing or otherwise, just stating facts and reality in politics, as a neutral observer.
Except that Speaker Horton is in the twilight of his career in which being the speaker is the absolute highlight of his political career. MPs are forgotten quickly, the speaker is a position that will stick with Mr. Horton for the rest of his time and well after.
don’t expect Mr. Horton to tarnish his legacy with a small minded political manipulation at this juncture in his career.
This guy gets it. Horton won’t be running in the next election – he’s a pariah to the PLP. He also clearly loves being the speaker, and will hold on to that for as long as he can. Hundreds and hundreds have been MPs over the years, there have only been a few dozen speakers. I don’t think he’s going anywhere before the next election.
One other point: it’s a slight exaggeration to say it was 19-15 with Lister as an independent. It is true that he sometimes sided with the OBA, but on most of the big issues he lined up with the PLP. So it was really more 19 – 15 1/2.
Little chance of Speaker Horton stepping down.
Arrogant leading the arrogant here
Well I guess congrats are in order for DAvid Burt and Marc Bean.
Just can’t put confidence or trust in the PLP and especially the new leaders. Way too immature often resorting to name calling and outright racial scaremongering. For a peaceful prosperpous bermuda we need less of this type of leadership.
Jamahl Simmons is a liability, although he may win his seat, his xenophobic tone will just do more harm than good. The chip on his shoulder is so large it can be easily seen.
Surprised though about the margin between Walton Brown and Marc Bean: 85:9 or smthg close to that…. I would have expected a much thinner victory for Marc. This should speak volumes to Walton. Apparently I am not the only one that turns down the volume when he opens his mouth.
I am starting to think that Marc Bean is an OBA operative sent to sabotage any attempt of moving the PLP forward to a winning election. Good luck.
@ mike…that comment had me crying with laughter!
You know…. you just might be on to something there.
Don’t blow his cover.
Congratulations to the Progressive Labour Party …P.L.P.for Standing Strong through another election of Candidates for Leadership.It is important to recognize that any other Government Elected since P.L.P inception is and will always be an interim Government is and always be Temporary and terminal.The P.L.P. will always stand strong in the face of victory or temporary defeat.The P.L.P.was formed by the Will of the People and a people United can never be divided.Sorry U.B.P.or O.B.A or whatever you decide to call yourselves or throw at the P.L.P.We will always be coming on Strong ! No Problem……..We shall always overcome….!
Overcome what? The fact that the PLP is no longer in power?
Stay in school.
It’s kind of like the end of the Survivor reality show, “who can I take to the finals who is considered to be even more disliked than myself?”
LOL bean had to take Burt to the finals….
The PLP culture does not seem to allow for recognition of the value they have in Walton Brown, a good and wise man.
Yes, but he’s not a “wartime consigliere” and we need that right now.
De ja vu, allover again. They have made another massive blunder. Marc has never, ever managed anything of note and it shows. One only need look at his tenure at SBRC to understand how bizarre the decision to elect him initially was and continues to be..
Mark Bean says the PLP have been the most effective opposition in decades, well lets hope he has several more decades to prove this.
Have some swizzle whilst we take your money at the betting shop! (Everybody Wins!!!!)LOL Great choices…OBA have all they need to win the next election between arrogance and regularly offensive….well done PLP delegates…well done! These two will do wonders for International Business…really?
I am not surprized at the margin Mr Bean won by. One thing that comes into play is how likable someone is. There’s a lot you can say that’s negative about Bean I guess – but he is more likable than Brown and that’s a fact.
In fact Brown scores very low on the likable scale. Intelligence and ability completely fall aside – when likability is not there. Brown comes across as unapproachable compared to Bean. The proof is in the margin.
Hopefully, Bean will keep PLP as a strong opposition for a long time.
Walton, the PLP doesn’t want you as their leader. Look at the numbers?
Cross the aisle. The OBA will gladly take a true “progressive” like yourself. Don’t believe the anti-Bermudian OBA hype that the PLP spouts.
Please don’t give him any ideas.
Really like Walton, nice guy and very intelligent. Didn’t surprise me that the PLP would not vote for him. OBA could use a person like Walton. Cross over Walton I’d vote for you.
The PLP obviously dislike Walton Brown, they prefer the ‘Ganga” mon!
No shortage of excitement in Bermuda political arena…
…but unfortunately there seems to be a shortage of brains in that same arena
just take out the “it” in excitement and substitute an “r” it will make more sense…
A reporter should ask Mr. Burt what his thoughts are on Solvency II, or Common Reporting Standards, or FATCA model 1 vs 2 IGAs. I’ll bet he has no real knowledge of any of them.
I don’t care if he is well educated, intelligent or black….does he have a clue how to run this economy? I very much doubt it.
You all do realize Speaker Horton is still a PLP MP don’t you?
There may be 15 PLP Votes in the HOA
But there are as of today 16 PLP MPs
Possibly 17 by next month
Just the facts
Markie, Burtie, Jamahl, Flip Flop, Wally (R) the Mouthpiece I, Wally (W) the Mouth II, Zane, Derek, Rolfe….this has the makings of one super team of politicinas…anyone got a cliff we can all walk over ?
No surprise there. He’s exactly what they want. A Ewart Brown clone.
Please God,save my children!
Why One Bad Apple Can Spoil a Box…
This isn’t just a popular metaphor, it’s actually true. One bad apple will absolutely quickly spoil an entire box of apples. The obvious way this can happen is simply if one of the apples is infested with some fungi or critters that reproduce and spread throughout all the apples in a box, ruining them all as they go off to the market