BPS: No Police Investigation Into Stone Removal

May 4, 2015

The police have commented on the stone being removed from Black Watch Pass, saying that “there is currently no police investigation into this matter.”

Last week, area MP Walton Brown questioned the circumstances surrounding the Bermuda stone excavated from the wall bordering Government House, saying he understands it was “removed without authorisation,” and in response the Public Works Ministry said the Minister “did not grant permission to remove the stone.”

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Commissioner of Police Michael DeSilva said, “Mr. Keith Masser of the Ministry of Public Works contacted the Bermuda Police Service [BPS] on Monday 13th April and reported that stone had been removed by a contractor without consent from Black Watch Pass over that previous weekend.

“He subsequently re-contacted the police later in the day and reported that there might be a misunderstanding as to whether or not the contractor had received permission from the Ministry to remove the stone.

“Those circumstances do not tend to disclose an offence of theft against the Criminal Code as they do not tend to suggest a dishonest intention.

“Accordingly, and in the absence of a complaint from either the Ministry of Public Works or the contractor, there is currently no police investigation into this matter,” Commissioner DeSilva added.

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  1. CJ says:

    I still want to know what happened to the cedar beams.

    • Mockingjay says:

      Well Scotland Yard couldn’t find them so I guess you have to get the F.B.I and C.I.A.
      Meanwhile back at the ranch, this is a Friends and Family deal that went wrong and the U.B.P/oba cheerleaders have egg on their faces AGAIN.
      There was no one on the plane, wait there was and he was just hitching a ride, no I didn’t tell him to take the stone, wait I told him to wait till Monday……………….
      What a F!@#ing JOKE.

      • Ya life's a joke says:

        @mockingjay, you know what’s a f***ing joke? The amount of times you comment on this s**t… Dude build a bridge and get over it honestly…

      • Big Brotha says:

        Hey Mockingjay , why is it you love commenting on and bringing up Jetgate because it is all you got to hold on to. However, you never had a problem with Dr. Brown hitching rides on his friends private jet. You know the friend, the one that was given the Globalhue / Dept of Tourism contract and then even worse, they were given the contract AGAIN without any other agency being asked to even bid.

        I await your response Mockingjay.

  2. Hummmmm? :-(

    • Mockingjay says:

      It’s laughable that bringing up Dr. Brown’s ACCUSATIONS gives the U.B.P/oba the right to do shady business and shows lack of intelligence of their followers,Smoke screen tactics at its best.
      Too much Kool-Aid and Swizzle I guess.
      LMFAO

      • CJ says:

        Hey, I never mentioned Dr Brown – you did that all by yourself.

        Many thanks for that.

      • Unbelievable says:

        Yeah swizzle….why don’t you ask David Burt about that since you’re so vigilant.

        • Regina says:

          Ask him about the $800 million too.

          • Unbelievable says:

            He won’t. Whatever or where ever it is, it iss probably deemed “value for money”.

      • serengeti says:

        nutcase

      • Northshore says:

        Really, the 14 years of PLP Government we never saw or was visited by the PLP on any issue. Now that you lost the Government and rightly so Walton Brown shows up with TV cameras and blabs off about something he knows nothing about. So typical of the childish behaviour of the PLP!

        Don`t even bring up Swizzle MJ, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Mockingjay says:

    The misunderstanding is, a Friends and Family deal went wrong.
    What a F!@#ing JOKE.
    Stay tuned for the next Government Gate issue.

    • jt says:

      Rubbish. Literally.

    • CJ says:

      Since PLP seems to be so good at making something out of nothing, why don’t you make some tourists arrive and spend money. Why don’t you make some businesses arrive to create jobs. Why don’t you simply create wealth then we’d all be happy.

      Much easier to complain I guess. When you do come up with a good idea, do let us know.

      Until then, you’re just a yella-bird up high in banana tree.

    • Huh? says:

      Nobody cares worth a flat toad’s carcass about any of this except to spin their little webs. OMG what a waste of everybody’s time and intellect.
      Why isn’t anybody complaining about the state of that park? I’m more upset about that. Are we still preening it to become a deep water dock instead of one of the few public parks in Pembroke?

      • Big Brotha says:

        Sav the money! Who wants a Public Park that the public cant feel safe using, That park, like the Pontoons Park in point, and Devonshire Dock are full of grown men and women hanging around all day, drinking, doing drugs, swearing and gambling. There are people hanging out there all day and night and there are even tents permanently set up. The amount of men and women that stop at these parks every day and drink alcohol and then get in work vans, cars, bikes and then drive off is sickening. Meanwhile kids and families cant use these parks without hearing cursing, and witnessing drunk fools argue and gamble.

        • cant hear you! says:

          Sounds like cupmatch or any other event of such magnitude.

  4. Triangle Drifter says:

    What part of “Waste of public time & money” does the PLP not understand?

    They want a “StoneGate” to add to their nonsense collection.

    • Kangoocar says:

      Agreed triangle, the plp are now beyond the point of being nuseating, they costed us $800 million +++ during their reign of terror and they continue to cost us money??? This is just another one of their witch hunts that has sadly gone wrong once again!!! The only thing they achieve with their continuos nonsense is, they frequently have their feet in their mouths so it is safe to say, they always know what their feet taste like???

      • Mockingjay says:

        The more you try to defend Craig the more he proves to you how much of a Surrogate failure he is, good thing he aint P.L.P he would have been minced meat by now, just like when Wayne was your Surrogate savior and now you label him as a flip flop.
        LMFAO

      • Seriously says:

        So what are you Saying? That it’s ok to take govt property that doesn’t belong to you because you think it’s trivial in this case? Man you’re so blinded that you will not see! You perpetuate a constant double standard when it comes to the OBA. They can do no wrong, and you have no objectivity.

        • Kangoocar says:

          Seriously, it is already on record that an W@E employee over stepped his pay scale and authorized the removal of this rubble??? I am not one sided! I only state the blunt truth, which is, once again the plp in their over zealous efforts to bring down the OBA has only achieved what amounts to more wasted money on the TAX payers behalf once again!!!!

          • Seriously says:

            Listen to yourself. It is not on record, it is alleged by the person that didn’t have permission to take the stones and got a lawyer. Now tell me why would you need a lawyer if you were above board? And furthermore if WE staff had given permission someone should be reprimanded as it is against govt policy. The PLP are opposition in place to point out all these faults just like the OBA did when they were opposition – no matter how trivial you and these diehards think it is!

            • TonyC says:

              I’ve already gone on record to say that most of the hierarchy of the civil service are PLP, so it’s not exactly in their best interests to follow Financial Instructions when it’s the OBA who will get the blame.

              The OBA doesn’t stand a chance with so many of the civil service working against them, particularly when you remember that it was the PLP who gave them a job n the first place, resulting in the bloated civil service we have today.

        • iabingi says:

          If the stone is in fact rubbish then the three “Rs” came into effect

          RECOVER, RE-PURPOSE, RE-FILL

        • Mockingjay says:

          Well History proves that their ice is colder, that’s the way it is.
          Same S!@# different day.

      • cant hear you! says:

        You are not worthy of a response. Thank you.

  5. Truth is killin' me... says:

    And in other new Johnny Barnes used his left hand to wave at commuters this morning leading to a commission of enquiry to be set up by the opposition to address this concern.

    • Mockingjay says:

      Well you’ll b….ed about cedar beams(even had it investigated) and now same PRINCIPAL and you want to down play it like JET GATE.
      Sorry Charlie, ya glass house is cracking.
      LMFAO

  6. Terry says:

    Empty vessels make the most noise.
    Wall sitters are pretty good too.

    Concrete block gets really cold but not as damp as Bermuda stone.

    Maybe if they (you choose) got their heads out of their *** and stood up we would not be getting ready for ‘Moon Gate’.

    Rum thyme.

    • Smilies says:

      Empty Vessels are those folks that tend not to have their facts together, such as yourself. There is more to this story, but Cannioner has moved quickly to ensure he has escape any fault. This is Bermuda Stone and of high value, any person with knowledge would know this. The Gentleman told the worker he was first granted permission by Cannioner. I am sure he would not remove it without permission from Cannioner. This is another Stonegate cover-up as usual. Guess who is behind it again Cannioner.

  7. RU Kidding says:

    So the police were contacted the same day to say that permission was given.

    I thought that it was removed without permission.

    What the hell!

    • Terry says:

      After the fact RU.
      Get you facts straight.

      • Mockingjay says:

        After the fact they knew that their Friends and Family plot failed.
        LMFAO

        • Unbelievable says:

          How is this a Friends and Family plot? What logic are you even using, man!?

          • Mockingjay says:

            Caught red handed and trying to wiggle your way out of it, well you did it with Jet Gate so it’s expected.

    • Redman says:

      @ RU Kidding,

      The request to remove the stone was made on the Friday, when it was seen that the wall had been removed over the weekend the police where contacted on the following Monday morning. They where contacted again later that day as some clarification on the stone removal had been made. Simple really.

      Sadly the PLP are in full election mode & will leave no stone unturned (pardon the pun) in attempting to make them look like they should be given another chance at the next election. Simply put their philosophy is that if they throw enough mud at a wall some will stick. Yawns.

      • cant hear you! says:

        Mud might help being it covered in quano!

        • Redman says:

          @ can’t hear you,

          Makes sense, seeing as the PLP are masters of covering up stuff with sh*t.

          The party’s MO is surely the old saying – If you can’t dazzle them with brains then baffle them with BS. :-)

  8. San George says:

    Feel the heat slowly rising – same characters; Cannonnier, Pettingale allowed to flout rules. This form of government creates kings and Tyrants – they can do whatever they want with our money, our assets and flout the law. Cannonnier will have to resign again – I love this stuff.

    This guy Cannonnier cannot be serious – it’s not his property to give.

    Well done W&E guys.

    Quo Fata Ferunt

  9. Why do today what you can do next week says:

    I get it, some stone that may have been only good for fill was taken.
    More important should be that this whole project is taking just short of forever, but that is the norm so is okay….

    • Smilies says:

      No you do not get it, Bermuda Stone is of great value, and can be reused for other building projects. This is what Cannioner did not know, and thus the MESS of Stonegate.

      • Redman says:

        @ Smilies,

        Agreed Bda stone is of great value, so I take it you will be condemning W & E the next time they demolish a Bda stone wall and send it to the dump just as they had planned to do with this wall. Yeah Right.

    • Out of curiosity, what are they who have the “stone” going to use it for? Inquisitive minds would like to know.

      • Redman says:

        @ Raymond Ray,

        Its being used for land fill. This is all it is worth after being removed with heavy equipment. Its the same use it would have had after W & E removed it in the same manner.

  10. CJ says:

    Next week: PLP demands to know where all the trash went following marine cleanup day. Also demands that voluteers are brought to justice!

    PLP – make me laugh.

    • CJ says:

      PLP’s official constant moaner Dalton Drown said today, “This is an OBA conspiracy to clean up our oceans and whatever comes out can just be taken away by anyone. I mean where is the control”?

      “Its just one rule for them and another for the PLP”

  11. bluebird says:

    The PLP/BIU just hates Bermuda getting ahead and being successful,
    It is getting much more difficult for them to get all these folks back on the PLP/BIU .

  12. Unbelievable says:

    So again…the PLP went screaming and running around the room with no proof of any wrong-doing. I should be keeping a score card on the number of times the PLP get stuff wrong when it comes to the OBA.

    • Redman says:

      @ Unbelieveable,

      Exactly. W & E where not looking to save the stone, they where going to demolish it and take it to the dump. There where individuals who had requested permission to take the stone and W & E had allowed that to happen up to a point. Mr. G simply jumped the gun & while he will rightly get a nasty letter & his knuckles rapped that is all that should happen here.

      My company removed stone from this site about 3/4 weeks prior to this and so had at least one other. I would bet Mr. Brown & Mr. Burt knew this but chose to ignore these facts and instead run off at the mouth as if someone had ****ed the Govt consolidated account… oops that has already happened and the PLP with their friends and family plan where the architects of that.

      Funny how this happens just as we hear the ‘explanation’ of the Port Royal Golf Course fiasco.

      IOW don’t look at this look over there everyone!!.

  13. Stoned Again! says:

    This blog is the best Bermuda blog ever and sums us up pretty much.

    Drinking too much ganga tea?

    Let’s focus on some real world issues (like a 2 billion dollar deficit overhang)–shall we class?

    • Jus' Askin' says:

      1/3 of that came from the OBA ;-)

    • Mockingjay says:

      So your saying cedar beams were a “Real World Issue”
      WTF
      LMFAO

      • Come Correct says:

        Where did they say that? I don’t see it…like your comments on Port Royal. Thank god Walton brought up this non issue to save you from your silence on real issues. By the way they aren’t beams anymore, they’re panels.

  14. Runner says:

    Mr. G has saved the public some money. Drove past the infamous “stolen” rubble yesterday and it must not like all the attention it is getting as it scowled at me when I looked at it. Not sure it should be moved and mixed with other rubble as it could cause a disturbance the likes of which we have never seen!

  15. Lala says:

    Shame that they replaced the bermuda stone wall with cinderblock.

    • Just maybe they intend to face the cinderblock with slate? (As it has been done throughout the Island.)

  16. tom cooke says:

    Cedar beams..even though the look is a bit old fashioned now at least can be reused… take a beat up stone wall down only thing it’s good for is fill at the airport. .. how many thousands of tons are down there with not a peep…

  17. Whistling Frog says:

    That stone could have been cut into slate to use on the facing of that cinder-block wall just built. Now the government will purchase new stone to face that wall instead. Or the stone could have been used to build up other damaged walls caused by vehicles..

    • @ Whistling Frog: I agree, with both of your suggestions.

    • Redman says:

      @ Whistling Frog,

      Nope, you would soon find that at least 1/3rd of this stone would be unusable and it would be far cheaper to cut new stone for what you have suggested.

  18. Christopher Notorius says:

    Thank you mockingay for mentioning the cedar beams so many times that readers are sure not to forget about them or who has them.

  19. tom cooke says:

    Sure take a block wall to a stone cutter to cut into slate… take your NAILED cedar beams to a mill to cut into planks… sure….

  20. Coffee says:

    Here is a case were Entitlement trumps the law !