Female Tourist Robbed at Gunpoint
Early yesterday morning [Nov 14] a 31-year-old female British tourist was robbed at gunpoint in the Richmond Road area in the vicinity of The Robin Hood Pub & Restaurant.
The Police say that it appears that around 3:45am the victim was walking when she was accosted by two men on a motorcycle.
One of the men brandished what the Police say “appeared to be a firearm” and demanded the visitor’s possessions before both suspects escaped heading west along Richmond Road with the victim’s handbag containing cash and personal items.
Thankfully, the female visitor was not injured.
The main suspect is described as approximately 5’10” tall of slim build wearing dark coloured clothing and a black helmet without a visor.
Police inquiries into this incident are underway, and Police are appealing for any witnesses or anyone with any information to contact the Hamilton Criminal Investigation Unit on 295-0011.
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Typical of the COWARDS in our society!!
Try robbing any of mine…
You’ll be in a bad surprise
Got that right! I dont care how small I am. Im waiting for the when someone tries that on me. They would just have to shoot me cause Im not going down without a fight.
“any of mine” ? Wow call it…………you have some issues to deal with when your “mine” is out at 3:45am……………………….
Hey Terry…As a visitor to Bermuda, I had never been aware there was a CURFEW on the island!!!
Sorry Timothy, but a woman walking alone at 3:45am near Robin Hood is asking for trouble. I work for a nightclub on Front Street. When I knock off at 4am, I make it a point to be aware of my surroundings and alert while walking to my car. It sounds sad but that’s the way it is right now.
Are you saying that a woman should not be allowed to walk alone without being robbed at gunpoint? She was ‘asking’ for a gun to be pointed in her face and her belongings stolen? You sound like a rapist…..”she was asking for it” Sound familiar? Sickos!
I dont care what time it was or how stupid the victim is, they are still a victim and this crap needs to stop. We should be hanging or beheading these punks in the street. This is a civilization and in civilized societies ALL times of the day belong to civility. There is NO time of day that belongs to the criminal element. No! Not even 3:45 am. I hope you are not really working in security! Then there’d really be no hope.
To “Real Security”:
Please point out where I inferred that a woman should not be allowed to walk alone without being accosted in an aggressive manner? I made no reference to her right to walk alone on a poorly illuminated street at 3:45am. I stated “a woman walking alone at 3:45am near Robin Hood is asking for trouble”. Gun violence is out of control in Bermuda, causing the amount of theft involving a firearm to rise. Let me remind you that a 15 year old girl was robbed at gunpoint in a daylight attack, less than a quarter mile away from said incident. Given this information, you tell me: Is it smart for a visiting female tourist to be walking alone along Richmond Road at 3:45am? Perhaps I could have worded my thoughts differently to have said “a woman walking alone near Robin Hood at 3:45am would not be advisable given the current state of affairs”. Either way, you can continue to wishfully think that “there is no time of day that belongs to the criminal element”. You can also continue with your bold, courageous statement that “we should be hanging or beheading these punks in the street”, but before you do, please point out where the civility in inferring that I am a rapist, calling me a “sicko”, and saying that my occupation in security has caused there to “really be no hope” lies. I am very highly qualified and experienced in my occupation and have trained in Bermuda, Canada, USA, and the UK. Believe me I when I say I have the skill and would love to physically and aggressively confront some of the intoxicated people who approach me while I am working. But as it stands, the society that gives a woman the right to walk down whatever street they desire at whatever time they choose also protects those intoxicated people from any unwarranted or excessive physical engagement. But since you seem to be the “eye for an eye” type, let me leave you with this last statement. I hope you don’t have a high school diploma, because then there would really be no hope.
According to you, a security van picking up money at TCD in broad daylight is now “asking for trouble” since robbers attacked it..in BROAD DAYLIGHT. All the places where people have been shot in broad daylight are places where we would be “asking for trouble” if we crossed in broad daylight. If I go up to Art Mels for a fish sandwich at lunchtime and get shot in the brain and die I was “asking for trouble”! Tourists who rent mopeds are “asking for trouble” since they may die. Better yet, given the current state of affairs, coming to Bermuda alone is “asking for trouble” since tourists get robbed at gunpoint after a night out which they deserve to have without some loser robbing them at gunpoint. If I was a tourist and heard your insane, insensitive and unjust comment i’d save myself the “trouble” and just not come to your screwed-up island ‘ganster’ paradise. Moron!
.. looks Real Sec… trust me, i understand your point. there should be no time that is not allowed…
but that does not mean that there are times that activities like walking home alone should be avoided. Its a given and its everywhere.
its like people walking on to pedestrian crossings… yes they have the right of way, and should be able to walk freely. The issue is, if someone does get hit by a car, while it is mostly the drivers fault, at the same time that person should not step out in front of a car expecting the pedestrian crossing to be some sort of force-field of safety.
Likewise, while women should definitely be allowed to walk home alone safely at 4am… it is not wise to do so, and the whole thought that the night does not belong to the criminal element is simply giving a very false sense of security.
perhaps she is not “asking for trouble”, but she is definitely not taking all precautions. yes it is sad, i feel for her.. it must be terrifying and violating, but unfortuantely these are the times we live in.
Someone said jamaica/bahamas are now safer than bermuda… we all know there is more crime there, but they could be perceived as safer because they dont lie about the risks… we on the other hand try to pretend that its not that bad, and dont give proper warnings to people to stay safe.
You havent mentioned it because you overlooked it. Oh is that what you were trying to do all this time? Bruise my ego?? Listen, If I bruised your ego i’m sorry but thats your problem not mine. I simply ask that you dont project denied parts of your own experience onto me to pretend that you are perfectly secure and untouchable emotionally. Everything you project onto me only reveals what you fear may actually be parts of your own self experience. You mention me having a high-school diploma because high-school is the highest level of education you yourself have achieved. You mention me having a bruised ego because thats what you cant accept is happening to you as i tear down your asinine attempts at wit and failure to successfully “bruise my ego”. We can do this all day.
Or perhaps you should read your last comment and apply it to all your previous statements…
No, I’M SORRY “Security”!!! I remember visiting your beautiful Island where many times, riding my rented scooter from Kings Warf to Hamilton, getting waves from drivers passing in the other direction. I remember when pulling into St. Georges on the ship, People on their balconies waving to us on the ship and yelling “Welcome To Bermuda”. I remember the friendliness of your people and how they ALWAYS made you feel so welcome there. But from what I have been reading lately, the island of Bermuda is starting to sound more like the complete OPPOSITE of what I have stated! My first cruise there back in 1992, I remember a local telling me that (at that time) crime was so low because people were AFRAID to go to the local island prison! And it only doesn’t just SOUND sad…IT IS SAD!!! Bermudians need to take their PARADISE BACK!!!!
Timothy:
Your point being? We can all reminisce about the good old days. We can all remember the friendly locals and the safe streets, but remembering isn’t going to change anything. Do you also remember Rebecca Middleton, who was brutally raped and murdered? Her killers are still walking these streets. How about Sir Richard Sharples and Captain Sayers? The Commissioner of Police, George Duckett? Do you remember the three days of rioting that ensued after the hanging of their murderers? The embodiment of the Bermuda Regiment and the Bermudian Government inviting the British Government to send $2million worth of troops to aid in regaining control? There has always been violence and serious crime in Bermuda. It has became more prevalent and frequent as of late, but calling gang-members “cowards” and “morons” on bernew.com isn’t going to change a single thing! Society must acknowledge that this is a huge problem and, frankly, until it happens to a friend or family member it is never going to hit home. I’m not going to walk into the Bronx at 4am with a wad of cash in my hand, then call my attacker a “coward” for robbing me! There is a difference between acknowledgement of a problem, and acceptance of a problem.
Real Security:
I have not mentioned anything regarding the TCD robbery, Aunt Mel’s fish sandwiches, tourists riding mopeds, or you getting shot in the brain. Please do not put words in my mouth to satisfy your bruised ego. According to me a tourist walking along Richmond Road at 3:45am is dangerous and could prompt an attack, given the current state of affairs in Bermuda. Why don’t you, for once, do something productive with your life and poll the amount of people who agree and disagree with this statement. You are the most dangerous thing in the world: an idiot with an idea and a keyboard.
@ Security
#1 You havent mentioned those things because you simply overlooked them. Is it really that challenging to just accept that ppl have opinions which involve mentioning things that you haven’t?
#2 Oh is THAT what you have been trying to do all this time?….Bruise my ego?? Listen, If I bruised your ego i’m sorry but thats your problem not mine. I simply ask that you dont project denied parts of your own experience onto me to pretend that you are perfectly secure and untouchable emotionally. Everything you project onto me only reveals what you fear may actually be parts of your own self experience. You mention me having a high-school diploma because high-school is the highest level of education you yourself have achieved. You mention me having a bruised ego because thats what you cant accept is happening to you as i tear down your asinine attempts at wit and failure to successfully “bruise my ego”. We can do this all day
I haven’t mentioned those things because they are a different class of robbery altogether. Perhaps if you had studied criminology for 4 years you would understand that.
Perhaps if you actually had a degree in criminology you wouldn’t be a bouncer and you wouldn’t have to keep saying that you “studied criminology”. You’d BE a criminologist. I’ve been studying criminology for longer than four years, egyptian mythology too, Sun Tzu Art of war, yeah. But the only difference between me and you is that i dont have to put it on my CV to seem adequate. LMFAO!
That woman was actually seeing a friend home safely and was within yards of her return destination. She is a frequent visitor to Bremuda and obviously felt comfortable and ‘safe’ there – big mistake. Trust no one and always be on your guard.
Very funny Terry!!!
What have we become! They are toying with all of our livelihoods! Go get a effin job bunch of loosers!
Come on now – can’t the hotel/guest hosue owners, be pro-active and seriously warn their guest, about the possibility of attacks like this happening. The Richmond Road area is a known area for such robberies. This area is dark and poorly lighted, and if I lived in the area, no way would I attempt to walk home, even earlier in the evening. Come people, wake up….
Digusting…but Grace i disagree. I live in this area and it is a lovely neighbourhood. Regardless we used to be able to walk anywhere in Bermuda and not be held up… please let the Government and police get a handle on the current state in Bermuda. But they can’t do it without all of our help, those who know the culprits need to speak up. We all have alot invested in our beautiful Island and a few are destroying it for all of us and our children.
Grace …seriously???? I think you need to wake up! You are insinuating that it was almost every one elses fault but that of the punks that did this. I / you should be able to walk freely and without fear anywhere. You need to stop becoming desensitized to the violence and thinking its normal in certain areas. Its never accepted no matter where you live. If this happens outside your house regularly and you think its the victims fault for not knowing better… I’m pretty sure you will have a change of attitude when you become the victim. Maybe you should rename yourself “disgrace”.
That’s nice in theory Smith but let me welcome you to the real world. Citizens need to be proactive. A woman walking alone at 3:45am on any street in Hamilton runs a strong risk of becoming a victim. This breed of criminal is an opportunist, and that was an easy robbery to carry out.
You are a moron and Smith’s comment was right on point! The world you are welcoming us to is not ‘real’ it is ‘criminal’. The world we are living in is fake because too many ppl are fake. In the REAL world, (which bermuda was not too long ago) women can walk home and not be robbed at gunpoint. Are you fake cowards that quick to accept bad circumstances as ‘normal’ or ‘real’?? We will never accept this. I guess since they are robbing “SECURITY” vans in broad daylight thats makes security naive and stupid for operating in the daylight? I suppose since the criminals are now shooting during the day we the law-abiding citizens are all stupid chickens who should have known better and stayed in our houses like scared chickens. Dont forget, these types of ppl do not stop at claiming the night, they want to claim the day too, and its too damn bad that there are so many cowards like you who are ready to hand it over to them without a fight and at the drop of a hat. You disgust me! You and Grace. And to add to smith’s words I think you both together become “DisGraceful Security”! Losers
Real Security:
So I am the moron for advising that female tourists don’t walk through an area known for this activity at 3:45am? Am I also the moron for using correct spelling and grammar in my sentences? The world we are living in is very real and believe me, bad things happen to innocent people everyday. Bermuda used to be situated in a bubble; isolated from the real world. Welcome to reality “Real Security”, where people are killed for the color of their skin and the Gods they worship. The world I am welcoming you into has been the same for thousands of years. If you disagree with that please, tell me exactly when the first crime was conducted. Read “The Natural State of Man” by Thomas Hobbes and maybe you will begin to open your eyes. Far worse crimes have been committed many, many times, here and in other countries. Is there really a difference between the real world and your “criminal” world?
@ Security. Since you had the immaturity to focus on my “typo”, I thought I’d point out some of your own dyslexia-induced punctuation and gramatical screw-ups.
#1 Wiseass, you use semi-colons to a)separate two complete sentences that are related. B)Before introductory words such as “namely”, “for example”, “therefore” etc. C)between two sentences joined by a coordinating conjunction when one or more commas appear in the first sentence. Or D)to separate units of a series when one or more of the units contain commas. Your usage of a semi-colon in the sentence “situated in a bubble; isolated from the real world.” is a misappropriation. “Isolated from the real world” is not a complete thought moron.
#2 Wiseass, in your sentence, “if you disagree with that please, tell me exactly……”, your comma should have come AFTER the word “that” and NOT after the word “please”. The way you put it (which is incorrect) is asking me to disagree with “that” and amounts to structural ambiguation! You fail!
#3 Wiseass, the word “Gods” should have been “gods” (lowercase “g”) because to capitalize it is to refer to a specific “god”; i.e. a name, and is no longer generic, which also highlights the inappropriateness of the plural “s”
#4 Wiseass, there is no need for your comma after “many times”. So go ask security school to teach you THAT and focus on the argument, NOT ad-hominems!
#5 In your second post you wrote “Believe me I [?] when I say I have the skill……..”! HAHAHAHA Just go jump off a cliff man you FAIL! EAT THAT!
Unlike you, I have no need to appear intelligent by making sure that my grammar is perfect on a blog, but I do expect courtesy and that is really immature on your part to try to make yourself seem smarter by attacking a “typo”.
Unfortunately, the piece of road from Bda High School to Rosemont Ave is known for this. I know a girl who lives on Rosemont who has been robbed several times. She doesn’t even call the cops anymore. Not a very well lit area – perhaps this should be addressed?
Is there CCTV in the area?
It would be nice to see a change from the media as well. Please Bernews….take the lead on this. Stop using these glorifying and colorful titles when refering to this criminals in your articles. These criminals shouldnt be refered to as gangsters, or “robbers” and certainly not “men”. If we start refering to them as ” PUNKS”, “LOWLIFES”, “COWARDS” and other not so flattering terms maybe the public and the children will start to look down on them instead of up to them. If you have to describe them…describe them as males…not MEN….a MAN would new act that way.
Smith you are on a roll. Of course the media may make excuses for not taking your sound advice. But they should feel some sense of responsibility for the power they yeild. Words are powerful and they could easily make it a policy of using words like “loser” “lowlife” “little coward” “insecure punk” “poor excuse for a man” “cant get right” etc. Bernews isn’t alone in this so its a general statement, its just that other news outlets dont have space where readers can comment. Thanks for this outlet Bernews!
You’re cyber-bravery and testosterone is almost too much for me to handle. I wonder how readily you would call your assailant a “little coward” or a “poor excuse for a man” while you are staring down the barrel of a .22 caliber. If you’re so proactive, tough, and smart, why don’t you get off of the computer and combat crime vigilante style?
HA Ha ha ha. Security your comments are spot on. Everyone knows that walking anywhere near that stretch is a risk after dark.
And thank you for the rest of your advise as well.
Real Security – take a break…….
Thank you Lisa. Unfortunately there are people in this society who feel that the belittlement of others is the only way to feel any pride in oneself. As you can see from all my above statements I have not started any name calling but rather have retaliated where I felt it was necessary. Real Security needs to realize that respect is earned and that if he expects courtesy he should first show it in his comments.
Yes sorta like your comment trying to belittle my use of grammar by focusing on my typo. I sure showed your a#s! lol
You sure showed my a#s. You’re so tough, just oozing testosterone. My comment belittling your use of grammar, which was not solely focussed on a typo, was in response to your name-calling and slandering.
So basically you said ‘grammar’ when you should have said ………vocabulary???? LOL You fail yet………AGAIN!
Just stop man! My ribs ache. LMAO!
So you admit that you were in fact trying to belittle me while accusing me of the exact same deed? There goes that projection. Guess I was spot on.
And correction, your comment did not belittle my use of grammar it only highlighted your own shortcomings which you could not see in your drunken rant of grandiosity! I’m sorry but you were “asking” for that one! Now you want to play the victim and the voice of reason because offense didn’t quite come to the fruition you anticipated.
My comment was about the MEDIA’S usage of particular titles to describe criminals. You are just mad because I disagreed with you before. Now you are making a complete buffoon of yourself by replying to my posts without reading them or the ones i’m replying to. Your comment on “bravery” to use a pejorative to address an assailant is infantile. It reveals the fact that you equate bravery with the degree of stupidity and wrecklessness with which one is willing to conduct oneself. It is not “brave” to use a pejorative to one who is threatening your life moron. I am now 100% positive that you are the type of person who prides themselves on their ability to “handle” a physical altercation. You think that being a “tough” guy is the epitome of manhood and the most laudable attribute of any human beings worth. This explains why you presuppose that I will be motivated by your litmus test of my ‘proactiveness’, ‘toughness’, and ‘smartness’ by proving that I can combat crime like batman. The truth is, these are all the standards by which YOU judge YOUR own human worth (I.e. you want others to see you as ‘smart’, ‘tough’ and ‘proactive’. Seeing that you most likely cannot measure-up to your delusions of grandeur and self-imposed standards, I am sure that you suffer from bouts of insecurity, anxiety and social phobias, all of which you have attempted to disguise, from your own self, by taking up a career in “SECURITY”! I see right through you, and you can come to my office for a few pro-bono sessions if you would like some help. Seriously!
@ Security. Is it any wonder why you clearly identify with the criminal element and those (punks) who are also trying to make themselves feel ‘brave’ and ‘tough’? The affinity is clear. When someone attacks them, you yourself feel attacked. I bet you have 100′s of ‘war stories’ and narrations of when you stared down the barrel of a .22 caliber. I’ll bet when you were a little boy, some guardian made you stare down the barrel of their big ‘gun’ while in a position of trust??? There is help my friend.
Real.. its not about having an attachment.. its about understanding the reality of self defence.
the first rule is, do NOT put yourself in danger. Intuition and warnings are fair game when it comes to personal safety, and ignoring htem or convincing yourself the statistics arent that bad is dangerous.
no one will sit here and say that she caused this, but sadly this is one of those lessons that bermuda is not what it used to be. it doesnt matter how man yof you go on and on about neighborhoods and how you used to walk around at night all the time. That is not bermuda anymore. People need to be aware and take necessary steps to avoid crime, not just assume it wont happen to them. As sad as it is, by safety comes first over any PC or “bermuda is still safe” nonsense.
@ Scott. MY GOD!! doesn’t ANYBODY READ the posts that are being responded to? If you read the post I responded to you’d have been better situated to reply sensibly, but like ‘security’ you have not done so. Or wait a minute……Security…is that you?? Nice try!
First I will need the building, floor, and room number.
Secondly: I can “identify with the criminal element” thanks to my studies in criminology, training in self-defense, security techniques, non-combative tactics, my work experience, and my common sense (the latter of which you seem to be missing).
Thirdly: I have stared down the barrel of a .22 caliber while walking to my car after work in Manchester, 7 years ago last September. I did what I have been trained to do – assess the situation, recognize the immediate danger, and respond accordingly. In this case my response was to hand over my wallet and cellphone. Did the incident scare me? You show me a person who isn’t afraid of a man with a gun and I’ll show you a liar.
Lastly: You say you expect courtesy on this forum. Well frankly you haven’t earned it! Anyone who disagrees with this can feel free to scroll up the page and see who began the name calling and gay insinuations. Real Security, you are such a class act. I hope to one day be like you – able to name call, slander, and attack not only criminals, but also everyday common men and women from a desk-chair.
No “Real Security”, “Scott” isn’t me. If you had any intelligence at all you would recognize that the picture on the top right of a comment is linked to the IP address of the computer being used to post on this forum. All of my postings have the same green octagonal face. If anything your postings seem to be erratic.
i have definitely read your posts..
i am not referencing your tit for tat about manhood and who’s got the bigger internet e-peen. everyone talks tough online but in the face of real danger no one really knows how they’ll react.
but whether you agree with Securities notion of whether someone should fight back or not, i am still of the mentality that you dont get yourself in a situation like this as best you can.
you’ve said many times before, attacking the notion that because someone should be able to walk free at night that they should.
“Are you saying that a woman should not be allowed to walk alone without being robbed at gunpoint? ” or “coming to Bermuda alone is “asking for trouble” since tourists get robbed at gunpoint after a night out which they deserve to have without some loser robbing them at gunpoint. ”
all i’m saying, its that it doesnt matter if its wrong or right, if theres a risk, you should try to avoid it.
@ Security [quote] If you had any intelligence at all you would recognize that the picture on the top right of a comment is linked to the IP address of the computer being used to post on this forum. All of my postings have the same green octagonal face.{unquote]
EPIC FAIL!!
Yet again you try to belittle my intelligence while making a buffoon of yourself in the process. My pictures clearly change down the page though I’m using the same computer. Regardless of the reason why, it is definitely NOT because of my ip address. So your attempt to show your computer ‘savvyness’ ends in a big-time FAIL HAHAHAHA!!! Your ‘criminology’ expertise isn’t enough huh? You need to be a computer expert too. What other skills do you have?
“Studies in Criminology”??? Thats code language for…I dont have a degree higher than High School so I claim lots of areas of expertise and use fancy words to appear ecclectic and worthy.
#3 Your inadvertent admission that you were scared while being robbed was an attempt to assuage your feeling of exposure and transparency after i called you out on your playing the tough and brave guy role. “I’ll show that get scared too because that’ll make me look more genuine and congruent since he aint buying my brave guy role” LMAO! You are my most interesting client to date. What a pathological narssicist!
studies in criminology
Come to Front Street tonight and we’ll see who the tough guy is.
Signed the Security Team.
HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO.
I knew that sooner or later you would verbally frustrate yourself and resort to an invitation to ‘come to my hood’ for a ceremonial gorilla chest pounding. This proves that all the while you just want to be the tough guy. After failing to establish your intellectual superiority you reverted to what you feel you can do well, fight! You are too predictable. This proves that you are criminally minded and thus destroys your credibility. Now I understand why you said that poor woman was “asking for it’! You sympathise with the insecure socially-phobic male whose only way to feel their own existence is to be violent. With all the gun crime going on, you, in your drunken rant, invite somebody to your place of work (which might I add probably isn’t owned by you) for a “showdown”??? To see whose “tougher”???
LOL let me leave you alone man cause I can see you slitting your wrists messing with me man. Hey i’m sorry man dont hurt yourself ok?
Many posting here seem to missing out on a big fact, crime that has been rising on the Island DOES NOT just happen in the early hours. It has even been happening in the middle of the day, early morning hours (day light hours)etc. So it’s NOT just a “don’t go there at 3:45am” issue, it’s becoming more like “JUST DON’T GO THERE PERIOD” issue!!!
I Can not belive that some people are actually blaming this woman because she was out late. Well if she’s a tourist, how else is she supposed to travel? If she’s fraid to ride a bike, then she has to walk no matter what…. Last time i looked there is no taxi stand outside of robin hood and try calling a cab that time of night!! For those that are blaming her, You are all missing the point. This is not a “bad neighbourhood” and the fact that things like this happen there all the time is unsatisfactory. It’s almost as if this type of behaviour is “understandable” because it’s dark????? What’s the solution?????? Please do not blame the victim for being out late. We’ve all done it and continue to do it.
The woman was a visitor, possibly here in connection with the rugby tournament which is one of the few events that actually generate stay on the Island visitors & costs the taxpayer virtually nothing to promote unlike so many expensive loser lipservice campaigns we have had in the past five years or so.
Crime has been too high for many years, way before the PLP Government BTW, yet we are simply NOT safe & the Island is still deceitfully being promoted as safe. Crime has spiraled upward in the past decade. That fact should not be surprising. Look at the political role models. How many live under the suspicion of corruption? How many have actually served jail time? How many have had violence charges laid against them? How many refuse to take a simple drug test?
It is no surprise that the thugs rule the streets any time of the day or night. Bermuda, you voted for it. You got what you asked for. When will you have had enough?
What he said ! Especially …
*Crime has been too high for many years, way before the PLP Government BTW, yet we are simply NOT safe & the Island is still deceitfully being promoted as safe*
I’ve been saying it for years … we decietfully advertise ourselves as ‘crime free’ ‘clean’ ‘safe’ ‘peacefull’ ..even ‘tax free’ LOL
Compared to where where ? And don’t give me that crap that ‘it’s not as bad as in other places’ … Other places don’t lie in their advertising ..you know what you’re getting before you go there !
Exactly Timothy.
Blaming the victim is ludicrous and the path of imbeciles.
I was born and bred in Bermuda, and have walked in this area late at night (more on the Front Street side) all the way to Pitts Bay at 330am coming from town, alone, and ever since my friend got robbed in that area I never do anymore! I have to ask my friends to drive me to my car if I attend an event after work where as I’d normally just walk to City Hall.. It’s a problem that I want fixed, cause these are areas that when I was younger used to walk around with not a single reason to be worried.. More police need to patrol these areas and soon.
Women should be allowed to carry pepper spray.
Thumbs up!
I carry the breath spray (lysterine?), my grandmother gave it to me about a year ago and I haven’t had to use it, but I’m sure it will have some sort of affect if worse comes to worse
I have read all of the comments – My thoughts are listed below:
1. No one is blaming the victim.
2. Yes, better lighting is needed on the streets/roads of Bermuda.
3. Crime is a real problem and all people on the island (locals, residents, and vistors alike) NEED to take any and all precautions necessary to ensure their personal safety.
4. It is not advisable for any person (male or female) to be walking alone anymore on the island – sad but true.
5. Worst of all, we can not discuss any issue without infighting, name calling, put downs, and anger – - – get a grip people. If you are interested in making your country a better place, stop talking about it and make it happen – - get your hands dirty while speaking “change” into the environment.
well summed up in my opinion.
I agree – especially with #5.
You are just a side-liner who waits for the opportunity to be the ‘voice of reason’ by criticising everyone who shared their opinions and are actually in the trenches trying to find a solution. Everyone who commented are “getting their hands dirty” Even the ppl i disagreed with are more respectable than the coward position you are taking, “The everybody is wrong” attitude. You do this because you cannot deal with conflict and you’d rather lump all ppl in the category of ‘name callers’ and ‘disputers’instead of ascertaining the right path from the wrong path. The dispute has to be settled. Sometimes an argument is a good thing. Stop being lukewarm and be either hot or cold. Don’t be a parasite! Stop having a young “black” mind and use your human intellect. You are not in the safety zone, you basically accused everyone of being simply name callers and put-downers. Then you reduce our opinions to just “talking about it” Well yng blck mind…..here is your chance to tell us exactly how the hell we can GET OUR HANDS DIRTY. What exactly is the solution? what should we do? If you have no answer then shut the hell up and join the put-downers and talkers cause thats all you are doing is putting us down.
I’m sure the majority of people reading this forum will agree that the only person who is trying to put anybody down is Real Security. You do this because you are insecure, quiet and unsure of yourself in public. You cannot physically or mentally deal with conflict in an educated way so you resort to name-calling and slandering from your computer. If you were confronted face to face you would back down, so the internet is where you turn. All from the safety of your office chair. Yng Black Mind listed his thoughts. He is entitled to his own opinion despite what you seem to believe.
Nice try! now get away from my desk and get back on the couch.
Why are clients always trying to analyse their therapists?
REALLY??? Why do you sound so hostile?? Yng Black Mind listed his/her opinions, and did so in a more respectfull manner then yourself.
Doesn’t make my comment less true. The truth hurts! deal with it!
The truth is you’re a self-absorbed a##hole who knows it all. The truth does hurt. The truth being that it is unsafe for a woman to walk along Richmond Road at 3:45am. Deal with it and do something productive with your life for once.
LOFL…..I honestly I don’t even care about your comments, b/c you come across so rude I don’t even want to read what you’re saying.
‘#5 – Worst of all, we can not discuss any issue without infighting, name calling, put downs, and anger.’
This is certainly pertains to you…..Truth hurts though inna
Actually I welcome and embrace that truth because I actually cannot discuss an issue without hostility when so many morons verbalize their first visceral reaction to subject matter without thinking. And don’t pretend that you are not interested in what I’m saying. I’m interested in all the stupid things you say because I’m interested in PEOPLE, not just words. So yeah I am hostile and assertive with insecure morons such as “Security” who spew their verbal ejaculate balderdash online in the ecstacy of a verbal masturbatory episode.
@ Security. Your usage of hyperbole (“know it all”) to describe me is an attack spawned from anger and defense of the fact that you feel intellectually inferior and verbally outgunned. So I do empathise with your need to make over-exaggerations about my level of knowledge. What you are doing is labelling me as the sum of your own deficiencies. Whatever you feel deficient in (in this case knowledge) you label someone else as the embodiment of that, all the while thinking that they themselves identify themselves with the same attributes.
Its like a poor person who calls someone wealthier than him “money man”. Since he himself has no money, anyone who does is immediately and disproportionately labelled as the sum of his deficiencies; i.e. “moneyman”.
You fail! Now go pretend you didn’t get OWNED tonight by playing the tough guy on front street.
Loser Bouncer
lol i dont think RS has actually addressed the issue at hand in the last 3 comments he’s made.. just tried to knock down Sec. and others for apparently not knowing as much as he..
reminds me of that guy Peace and Love, who thought he was everyone’s therapist too. at least i think that was the name.. sorry if not
I would gestimate that half of these robberies with the use of ‘firearms’ are immitation.
All the other incidents that have occured with discharges are for real. There may be a few instances where the real thing is used but not likely at this time of day/night. To many chances of getting stopped but with an immitation it can be disposed of without cost to you or the lender. They are’nt cheap.
As to pepper spray. Get real. Someone puts a gun to your face or you observe it pointed at you your gonna get out your spray? Your either gonna get killed or seriously injured. Possessions can be replaced somewhere down the road. Your life….never.
Circumstances vary but we usually learn of them after the fact. Hey…I was a cop for 20 years. You wannt it? It’s yours asshole………………………
Killed by an immitation there ‘batman’! Surely it would be just as much hassle to smuggle an immitation as the real thing, so why bother? I think it is more of the case of the gun not being loaded and used for intimidation.
Sounds like someone I know, this “yng black mind”.
Fish of the week: Caught by local fishermen in droves off North Shore…….Senate, filet, or whole…..
Bermyman, get a piece of wood et all shape it and paint it what ever colour you choose for the type of weapon and stick it in someones face.
Enough said.
Does it have to be wood, could it be plastic, like a toy. Would that work?
Where’s batman when you need him!
He’s working on front street as a BOUNCER. Sometimes goes to his lair to post on bernews as screename “Security”
Looks like we got us a goffer…………
How many pigs in a poke,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,someone has a smoking gun,,,,.
This will be my final response to this thread. It seems like some people get it…and some don’t. I am speaking from the side of the VISITOR to your Beautiful Island and have discussed this with many of my friends in the U.S. that have been to “Paradise” as I have regularly. I live in Florida.
What is happening to Bermuda is most terrible. To expect a tourist to have to be concerned about traveling your Island at ANY time of the day is concerning. When locals like “SECURITY” try to dictate when and where someone can or SHOULD go at ANY given time of the day (especially when he has said his “shift” ends at 4am so his establishment is open until at least 3am?)is also concerning. I have to ask people like “SECURITY”, that feel that tourists should be “advised” of the conditions in certain areas at certain times, Do you PERSONALLY make announcements IN PUBLIC of that fact in the place you work? Would you holiday at a place like this? I mean, like the “merry old gent” that “announced” us on our arrival on the Norwegian Dreamward back in 1995 in St. George? If you feel you should, yet don’t, then you are PART of the problem!! It is NOT your responsibility to inform “US” what, where and when is a safe time to travel. We return to Bermuda because we love the people, the history and the WHOLE PICTURE! That is WHY we keep coming back. When something as wonderful as Bermuda goes from flowers to cow dung, there is a problem! Maybe the use of “cow dung” is a bit over the top and to the locals that CARE for your wonderful Island, I apoligize. As an “outsider”, a visitor both by cruise and by flying there for holiday, I am SINCERELY concerned about the crime, MAJOR crime rise in Paradise. I may not be a local on Bermuda, and many of us “outsiders” aren’t, but we ABSOLUTELY LOVE your Island!!! Many of us have traveled to other parts such as the Caribbean, yet still yern to come BACK to Bermuda. To those that care, PLEASE, your extended family ask you, FIX THIS!! Crime will NEVER totally go away, we ALL know that, but more for YOUR sake than OURS, make it safe again! May God Bless You ALL!!
Tim H.
Florida, USA.
Thanks for your comments Mr Hickey, trust me when I say most locals are completely digusted by the rise in crime…..thanks for yout support of our island,
Patricia
at the end of the day timothy, i think you are underestimating what bermudians are going through and doing.
Firstly, everyone here is concerned, as you say, and want to do something. Security is not “dictating” when and where people should go out. But there are places and times that are not advisable, and higher risk. If people want to believe that is not the case, or take a “if we stop going there/then, then the criminals win” standpoint, then those are the people that have a higher chance of getting hurt. Yes it sucks, but its life. I used to walk that way too at night, drunk. You wouldn’t dare catch me doing that again now, and that was BEFORE this incident.
Yes, generally bermuda is still safe for tourists on the whole, the “whole picture” is broken up into small segments. And trust me, everyone wants to fix this, but until it is fixed, people need to take precautions. Violence is not 100% random. Criminals are opportunists, and if you give them the opportunity then they will take it. Remove the opportunity (aka find less vulnerable way home) and you decrease your chance of being a victim.
I actually thought friday night that i would part my car at work, and enjoy the evening. I, as well as my roommate, both decided that that wasnt a sharp idea, given the distance and seclusion i’d have to go through to get back to the car.
As for whether Sec. warns people, i know for myself, and chances are for hamiliton security, if people, especially women, appear to go walking off like that, i sure as hell warn them. I warn my female expat friends, by ex-gf, colleagues, etc.
I’m not saying bermuda is not “safe” on the whole… but given the recent rise in crime there are whens/wheres that should be avoided if possible. Its just simple common sense
Why is it in todays Royal Gazette this lawyer is trying to give a convicted killer less time,why is he even defending this guy,it really is a disgusting story and shame on these damn lawyers doing stupid sh*t like this.Rhiana and her family deserve better justice then this he got 35 years before parole and the lawyer is trying to make it 25 this guy should never see freedom ever! For what he done ,how that lawyer sleeps at night is beyond me.Trying to get a guy that did something so violent less time are these people out of their minds or what.This is also a problem of why so much violence in bda so many people are standing up for people that dont deserve it MAKES ME SICK! Some people deserve second chances but not for crimes of this nature it is UNACCEPTABLE!