Video: Opposition Leader On Private Jet Travel

June 1, 2013

Saying behaviour like the recent private jet travel by the Premier and two Cabinet Ministers would have lead to marches on Parliament a few years ago, Opposition Leader Marc Bean said as far as he is concerned “resignations have to occur.”

In March 2013, Premier Craig Cannonier, Attorney General Mark Pettingill and Tourism Minister Shawn Crockwell flew to Washington via a private jet. The matter was made public a few days ago via news reports.

The subject dominated the discussion during Friday’s [May 31] session in the House of Assembly, with the Opposition questioning the circumstances, and the Premier delivering a personal explanation.

The Premier said he was contacted by a “wealthy individual from Maryland” who stated that his investment group wanted to meet with the new Government.

Premier Cannnonier said discussion topics included the old Club Med property, other hotel properties on the island, the Hamilton waterfront, gaming, work permits, concessions and more.

When asked by the Opposition who the individual was, the Premier said it was “confidential”.

Mr Bean said, “This is the type of behaviour that international observers would then use the term banana republic to describe the country.

“At no time whatsoever should a public official accept a gift of any kind, whether it’s transportation, accommodation or food, all of which the Premier just admitted he received from this unnamed investor.”

The full interview with Mr Bean:

Mr Bean said the Ministerial Code of Conduct indicates that if you receive transportation or accommodation you must reimburse them.

“We have members on my side, in particular one member MP Walter Roban, who have resigned for less. Much less,” said Mr Bean.

Mr Bean said they left on the 20th of March, had the meeting on the 21st, and flew back on the 22nd.

Online flight data indicates that a private jet left Bermuda on the morning of March 20th, flew to Washington Dulles International Airport, and left on March 22nd, arriving in Bermuda that afternoon.

Mr Bean — who is a trained pilot — said private jets aren’t designed to save money, but about saving time as you are not bound by an airline schedule.

“The question has to be asked what were you doing outside those 5 hours,” said Mr Bean. “Which means that you spent 43 hours in Washington DC doing what. The Premier said he was resting. Resting?”

The Opposition Leader also noted the timing, saying that the private jet travel was not brought to the public’s attention until two months after it occurred, and when it did it was via news reports.

“Resignations have to occur as far as I am concerned,” said Mr Bean. “This is behaviour that would have lead to marches on Cabinet Building and Parliament a few years ago if we were in that position.

“But today it’s acceptable after months and months of trying to deceive the people with all these slogans about transparency and accountability. And then the first opportunity you get you do the exact opposite.

“That is the sign of a hypocrite, it is a sign of a lack of genuineness…” said Mr Bean.

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  1. Bermuda Boy says:

    Give it up Bean!!! The OBA are trying to fill the hole left by your mates.

    • Standing on Transparency, Inclusiveness and Fairness says:

      This is clearly a Breach of the Code of Conduct by the OBA government. This was the government who called for Transparency and yet has failed to follow the CODE Of CONDUCT and their own outline of what they promised to folks pre-election. The OBAubp should be ashamed of themselves for mis-leading the public in such a way,when they promised Bermuda more of good governance. This is not good governance, and like it or not Mr Bean is correct in his observations and call for something to be done.

      As the OBA are usually great for seeking out good goverance and code of conduct rules and regulations, why are they now willing to overlook this critical matter of mis-steps? This is really glue on the OBA’s faces !!

      • Zombie Apocalypse says:

        Can you show us the Minesterial Code of Conduct? You (and Furbert) keep talking about it but no-one wants tell us what it actually says.

        Perhaps you could also plainly state what financial benefit the three individuals personally received (if any). Because as I read the events, the Bermudian taxpayer received a benefit, but the individuals did not.

        And presumably Furbert should get kicked out of the PLP for having done a similar thing, as he admitted Friday. Right? It would also be interesting to hear Furbert’s explanation as to why one was perfectly acceptable, and one wasn’t.

        And, to the extent anyone else has done flown on private jets, the party concerned should explain why. Right? Because there are numerous times PLP cabinet ministers took private jets, including the trip to pick up 4 Uighurs in secret. I’m sure Bean can explain why that was acceptable, and this wasn’t.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          Are you all forgetting about a certin sale of a bank here and a yatch………

          LOL Bean takes a lot of trash talking about ignorance and arogence where was this type of talk when Dr Brown was the Premier and when Ms. Butterfeild demanded the front seat at the church.

          • Black Soil says:

            Brother Bean is doing a great job is not winning any support. PLP need to find a more note worthy leader.

      • TB EYE, EYE says:

        It is transparent – they are not hiding it, denying it or avoiding the topic. They are being transparent. Now Mr. Bean, can your colleagues say the same! How many times were questions asked in the House by the then opposing – that have never been answered. Any idea where the hundreds of millions of unaccounted for monies went! Give it a break. They made what at best could be called a bad decision.

        Some ministers take rides on private jets while others prefer to control the areas of the airport that they fly out of.

        People that live in glass houses should not throw stones.

        • Hey says:

          There was complete transparency here. Bean is an absolute waste of space. You’ll never win anything with Mr Bean in charge.

    • the OBA is a front for the UBA says:

      What’s interesting is when DR. Brown was leader none of you wankers would say anything bad to him. Now all you people are internet gangsters, and fake A$$ holes. If you going to keep talking about Mr. Brown which is the past, lets talk about when the race party UBP which you all came from was holding back blacks in this country. Lets talk about how still today you need to place a black man as the leader to win votes. Change the leader to a white man for next election if you have the BALLS. Lets see how confident you remain when the results come in. Keep on acting cocky see were this gets you next election.

      • Rockfish #2 says:

        @the OBA is a front for the UBA(?)
        OK—lets have Zane Desilva(hnic) or any other white person challenge for the leadership of the PLP.

      • Hey says:

        You got serious issues, go get some help. Can’t believe Bernews hasn’t blocked the explitive.

    • Whistling Frog says:

      This seems like a greased deal… If there’s a cover on the table, what lies under it?

    • Tony Brannon says:

      I told Wayne Furbert that wasting time on such “tit for tat” is a complete waste of time…..GET on with cutting deals to restore Bermuda to greatness…..GET BIG PLAYERS to the table……

      Getting on a jet paid for by possible investors……is a smart business move – that is leadership !

      When people like former Premier of Turks & Caicos use LEAR JETS at taxpayer expense to visit Hollywood OR come up to Bermuda to hang out overnight with his pal ….now that’s what I call OUTRAGEOUS abuse……

      The OBA did a “smart thing”…..a sensible logical “BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY” presented itself…..at NO COST to BERMUDA :)

      BIG difference ….Enuff said.

      • Tony Brannon says:

        Wayne Furbert heard first hand last Friday morning (at our regular coffee session at Café 4) what DALE BUTLER thought of the pathetic PLP winging about the PRIVATE JET affair……As he said, Bermuda needs to cut deals, make it happen….
        Butler totally railed on Furbert…..Well said Dale…..and you are both my mates….But Furbert and Bean need to “GET A LIFE” on this issue.

        The Government was smart to accept a private jet in order to further possible business and investment in Bermuda…. Has nothing to do with OBA PLP…..it is SMART BUSINESS……..

        • Respect was lost says:

          @TonyB:

          I actually had some respect for you before I read your comments above.

          This issue is not about he “bringing business to Bermuda” – - this has to do with the perception of inappropriate business practices.

          I want business to come to Bermuda – - but I want it to be fair and above board.

          The acceptance of the private jet and hotel stay MAKES the OBA look bad – that’s the truth – period.

          And if you didn’t hate the PLP as much as you do, you would be able to see that. Oh by the way, having to say that people are your friends kinda defeats the purpose of saying they are your friends in the first place – - real friends wouldn’t have to state the obvious.

          Respect was lost

          • Tony Brannon says:

            What I “HATE” is the BS….no matter the political party…
            You should know that about me by now….
            Respect my brother !

  2. CBA says:

    LOL The PLP is so desperate they have to milk this one to its core! There’s a reasons you are no longer the government…people can see right through you!

  3. Truth (Original) says:

    Wow Marc. Seriously?

  4. Bobmarlin says:

    Uighurs smuggled,Firby and Ewart taking trips on private expense,what gives?

    • LOL (original TM*) says:

      Yup the Uighurs who we were told had been cleared by the police here in CABNIT by Burch. When that turned out to be complete, um, bunco he did not resign………

      LOL inflated egos indeed

  5. Ringmaster says:

    Did Dr. Ewart Brown, then Premier of Bermuda, resign when he engaged in human trafficking when he smuggled 4 persons into Bermuda, in a private jet allegedly paid for by the US, and in a clear breach of the Constitution? Did Lt Col David Burch resign for being part of the same act? Of course not, so don’t try and take the high road of indignation. The march Mr Bean is no doubt referring to was in response to a clear breach of the Constitution, not an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct, a breach that to date has not been made public by the PLP or anyone else so one has to ask “what breach”?

    • Whistling Frog says:

      Did your King or Queen of England resign when slaves were smuggle on the Island?
      Mr. Marc Bean didn’t have nothing to do with what Premier Brown done and is only setting the record straight…

      • Sandy Bottom says:

        Bean was appointed by Ewart Brown in the Senate and served under him as a Minister for nearly 3 years. You want us to believe Bean had nothing to do with Ewart? Fantasyland.

      • Hey says:

        What has a King or Queen got to do with anything….straws clutching.

      • LOL (original TM*) says:

        Kings and Queens can’t resign …….LOLO

        LOL

  6. Verbal Kint says:

    I have said that I don’t think this was a good idea on the part of Government. However, Mr. Bean makes two huge gaffes here. He basically admits the error of the PLP in doing the same and then he calls for resignations.
    “Opposition Leader Marc Bean said as far as he is concerned “resignations have to occur.”
    Sorry, Marc, but you don’t decide who needs to resign. Prove a breach of the regulations, go through channels, and then see what needs to be done. Same type of things you forgot to do when you assessed Marc Daniels’ planning appeal.

  7. Cowpolly says:

    A tad overreaction don’t you think Marc? This is not the way the PLP are going to win back the voting public, concentrate on coming up with concrete solutions to the problems at hand and may be we’ll listen to you – just a suggestion.

  8. Lets hope says:

    Marc you are sounding like a complete idiot! They did not fly out on the tax payers dollars. They went to talk business to try and help our economy! If you fools keep running your stupid mouths, no one will want to do business here. So please sit down and let OBA try and get us out of this financial mess your government left us in!

  9. jt says:

    Mr. Bean,
    In reference to Mr. Furbert’s statements in the house yesterday, do you believe that he and Ms. Wilson are ‘guilty’ of the same that you accuse the OBA of? If yes, please ask for their resignations. In not, please stop with your accusations.

  10. DarkSideofTheMoon says:

    Marc, you are absolutely correct. It doesn’t matte what anyone says, it is against the code of conduct. A flight, accommodation, food, local transportation, and who knows what else was either GIFTED to the ministers and Premier, or paid by the tax payer. Which is it? If gifted, it is against the code of conduct, and if paid by the taxpayer they are lying about “saving money.” Luckily for them, they can do no wrong and will never be questioned by their supporters, their enablers… This is like Brown all over again…

    • DarkSideofTheMoon says:

      LOL, they don’t even respect their own colleagues, you would think that would take the MPs from St. Georges with them…lol. Poor puppets…

    • Zombie Apocalypse says:

      Link to the Ministerial Code of Conduct, since you spout off about it all the time. I doubt you have even read it.

  11. SoMuchMore says:

    furby admits he does similar and bean is attacking the oba, wow. lol

  12. js says:

    Its incredible that the OBA is willing to give Marc Bean and the PLP enough mud to throw at it.

    At one point all this mud is gonna stick.

    The sad reality is that the OBA and its supporters are a political minority but have a political majority so they now feel free to act, say and do so they please.

    They would be wise to act more like a political minority and refrain from controversial acts and statements otherwise the PLP may just have to show up at the next election to win the whole thing all over again.

    • SoMuchMore says:

      or loose.

      • js says:

        if an election were called tomorrow the OBA would lose cause those like myself who abstained from voting will come out in droves

        therefore the only way they could possibly win is if they bridge the political and racial divide as they campaigned to do so

        however based on the provocative comments from their supporters I don’t see them being able to accomplish that and as a consequence the divide will only get bigger

        you are shooting your own selves in the foot and instead should be playing to the middle

        its a simple case of math and when you count up all the numbers yours doesn’t add up

        • Hey says:

          They bridged that with the formation and inclusiveness of the OBA, the only thing that hasn’t crossed the bridge is your mind.

        • LOL (original TM*) says:

          I know alot of those that obstained as well and guest what they aren’t all PLP supporters so why do you’ll think hey would have all voted PLP……………

          LOL

  13. smile says:

    resignations, really, I can name some who would have jumped at the chance of getting on a private jet a couple of years ago. and the old Minister of _____ did, along with his wife, please explain that one Mr. Bean or does that not count. lets stop the childish behavior and get on with getting Bermuda back

  14. d.o. says:

    Mr Bean ( not the British TV star ) Do you honestly listen to yourself. I am thinking that you are starting to act like your former crew you had in parliament. Talk about the pot calling the kettle B&*#$. Your predessors were far from squeaky clean.

  15. pilot011 says:

    At least the truth is coming out about our beloved OBA!!

  16. new hope says:

    give it a rest mate. please. you sound pathetic. give it a rest.

  17. Balanced Facts says:

    Despite the embarrassment of Furbert (and Bean having to tell him to sit down!) admitting he did the same…(with Kim Wilson”s advice, or knowledge???) The Leader of the Opposition STILL wants to mouth off today about the Government! AND call for resignations??? Sort your own shop out Bean…yesterday made Furbert, you, and WIlson all look ridiculous! No one in their right mind would replace the OBA Premier, Tourism Minister and A-G with the three of you thats for sure!

  18. Nuffin but da Truth says:

    time to drink the kool aid boy!

  19. Pork Chop says:

    OMG former PLP Min. of Tourism Mr. Furbert admitted doing the same thing in Vegas. Can we please have the full disclosure, like the Premier gave, from Mr. Furbert and the PLP before we go any further?

  20. Jus' Askin' says:

    OBA is not transparent and they only come forward, once they’ve been called out. Code of conduct can be interpreted many ways. Why did we only find out months later via the news? OBA supporters really need to stop with “…. well PLP done it….” attitude. You should want the people you voted in, to be the change you wanted. It’s fine as long PLP is not doing it, is a sad and childish attitude.
    That meeting should concern the people not the jet. They wanted to know if Bermuda was for sale and for how much ;-)

  21. media says:

    It was so revealing to hear the end of the House on 105.1fm just as they broke for lunch yesterday. After they had finished the mics remained on and you could hear Walter or Walton say ” Now, we have got to make sure we get this on the News, we have got to make sure we speak to the News people waiting outside” It all came across as very contrived and very orchestrated. Of course when Wayne later in the day revealed he too had been on a similar trip when he was Tourism Minister for the PLP, that really put the whole episode into perspective. The Opposition side went very quiet at that point. Hypocrites.

  22. My2Cents says:

    May I say up front that I am not an ardent OBA or PLP supporter. Inherently, I do not trust politicians as I believe they are motivated by self interest. Having said this, it is unproductive to refer to the missteps of the PLP in justifying the actions of the OBA. RIGHT IS RIGHT, AND WRONG IS WRONG. No matter who is acting questionably. The response of some OBA supporters to this jet situation and other questionable conduct of the OBA during their short tenure as government is reminiscent of the response of PLP supporters to criticism of the PLP government when they exhaustively made reference to the unethical conduct of the UBP. It seems that the default position of both sides is to blame the other side for doing the same or similar thing. This is madness.

    The OBA promised that they would usher in a new way of doing politics, one based on transparency and accountability. They made this their campaign mantra and the voting public believed them. So, frankly, I do not want to hear about what the PLP did to justify what the OBA are doing. I do not want to hear about the mistakes of the PLP to justify the mistakes of the OBA. The OBA were granted power because they promised to be better. I am not sure at this point if they are living up to that promise.

    • media says:

      It basically comes down to trust and the way I look at it as someone who voted for the OBA I trust that they are doing all they can to get Bermuda back on track. Those that voted PLP would inherently distrust most of what the OBA say and would think the worst. The opinions are falling pretty much down on Party lines.

      • Verbal Kint says:

        I hate to burst the bubble, but I think it the epitome of foolishness to trust politicians. Put restraints in place and monitor their behavior, but to blindly trust them is not wise. That’s why these things should be curtailed, or the interests involved need to be put before the public at the time of the meetings. “Trust” in politicians has led BOTH sides to act in a potentially unethical manner. If you stop that potential for conflict, you don’t have to trust them, just enforce the restraints.

      • My2Cents says:

        Media, the question is: Do you blindly trust the OBA? If you are unable to step back and honestly and objectively evaluate their performance then this is dangerous. Surely, you accept that the hiring of Corey Butterfield, the ambiguity about the completion of the remedial work at Heritage Wharf, and now this jet situation is very PLP-esque and cries out for criticism of the OBA. BTW – I do not accept their feeble attempts of trying to explain these issues.

        • media says:

          Did you vote PLP or OBA in the last election?

          • My2Cents says:

            And what is the price of rice in China? It does not matter who I voted for, just as it does not matter whether I am black or white, whether I am male or female, whether I am rich or poor, or whether I am a born Bermudian or status Bermudian. So pre-tell, what is the point of your question?

            • Verbal Kint says:

              Bingo

            • media says:

              Opinion on the matter is falling pretty much on Party lines. I suppose you just answered indirectly. Thanks.

              • LOL (original TM*) says:

                That is just the party propaganda mechines making it look that way keeping the old us vs them style. Soon we’ll be heading back to the Rich White/UBP man (after all there all rich right) boogie man………………

                LOL

  23. Sundry says:

    I take private cars to meeting on a daily basis and charge the clients for those rides. This type of behavior is 100% acceptable. Stop makin noise PLP. It’s called business.

  24. Triangle Drifter says:

    Is this the best the PLP can come up with? A comp plane trip!!! Care to talk about BHC, Berkley, the court building, Dockyard, the white elephant on the S Shore, GP cars for all, travel to all kinds of exotic places, credit cards etc. etc.?

    No matter which way they throw rocks, they are going to hit glass. Better to remain silent & thought of as fools than to open their mouths & leave no doubt.

    • My2Cents says:

      Triangle Drifter, please refer to my post made at 1.06pm today.

      • Triangle Drifter says:

        Why? Does a gentle reminder of the past hurt a little? Some need to be reminded of who these petty complaints are coming from & their history of ethical behavior.

        Some have short & very selective memorys. They need a jolt every so often as a reminder of who did what.

        Sorry if your toes got trod on.

        • My2Cents says:

          Triangle Drifter, my toes are very much intact. Recent history is replete with numerous examples of questionable conduct of the PLP. But my mama used to say: Two wrongs don’t make it right. Please answer this question though: Do you not think this whole jet situation gives the appearance of a conflict of interest? Nevermind what PLP did or did not do.

          • Rick Rock says:

            It isn’t a ‘wrong’ just because you say it is.

          • Triangle Drifter says:

            Nope, don’t see anything wrong with it at all. It is not like he was going off looking for another source of fuels. Opinions are just that. They are often only worth what they cost & they don’t have to be listened to.

            By far & away the opinion on this thread is that the OBA has done nothing wrong. If it counters your opinion, well, too bad.

            • My2Cents says:

              Triangle Drifter, the problem is that we do not know enough about this jet trip to conclude that it was on the up and up. For example: Who did they meet with? What were the full expenses covered by this charitable benefactor, such as accommodation, food, per diem, etc. (they went to DC for 2 days)? Why didn’t the Premier speak of this trip two months ago when it occured and why did it take for the public to be informed by other means? We know in general terms what questions were asked by these so called potential investors, but we know nothing of the answers given by the Premier.

              Also, I am not a lemming. I am perfectly capable of having and expressing a viewpoint which is contrary to the majority. That does not necessarily make me wrong. For the sake of clarity, I stand by position that the conduct of the OBA in accepting to go on this jet and be guests of these potential investors gives the appearence of a conflict of interest.

  25. CDNGRL says:

    I think Mr Bean has to much time on his hands and maybe should put his energy into other areas that need to be looked at,

    • Tony Brannon says:

      Do the right thing Mr. Bean
      Contact the Premier and pass LEGISLATION t allow RESORT GAMING….
      Both of you are show ZERO leasdership by hiding behind a Referendum….
      RESORT HOTELS are struggling….Bermuda is struggling…..WE HAVE a WINTER……we have MEGA SHIPS kicking the hotels butts….

      GIVE US LEADERSHIP the pair of you and get legislation passed…..This is becoming a farce and a sad joke….

  26. swing voter says:

    2 words can sum up the accusations thrown about in the house and the clay town clowns dissertation…….pathetically desperate

  27. Verbal Kint says:

    I do find it amusing that Wayne Furbert has been a politician this long without ever, seemingly, hearing the stones and glass house parable. Somebody explain it to him. Speak very deliberately. Draw pictures if necessary. 8 x 10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a description on the back telling what each one was. Or words to that effect.

  28. MakesSense says:

    If an overseas company wants to send their private jet to court Bermuda as a possible investment, what’s the issue? So tired of the opposition opposing just for the sake of opposing. What else are they doing? How about putting that energy into making Bermuda stronger instead of false accusations. Stop using the media to whine and cry, especially when they have screwed Bermuda and then lied about it. It takes some nerve! Only making your party look even worse. Wake up-no one’s buying it.

  29. Compassion says:

    This was unethical and you all know it including Dr. Saul. I appreciate that Dr. Saul was honest about how he really felt. He is not saying that he doesn’t support the current Government but what they did was unethical. People please just because OBA is your Government of choice doesn’t mean they are perfect and let’s not compare it to the PLP, they were just wrong, that’s it and you all know it .. and NO I am not a PLP supporter.

  30. Rockfish #2 says:

    Damn—Wayne Furbert ambushed his colleagues!

  31. Verbal Kint says:

    My last comment on this. I am not a proponent of either party, but the OBA were elected because the actions of the PLP Government were not good enough. The Government need to acknowledge that there may be a question of ethics involved with these kinds of decisions and promise to look at doing things differently in the future. Everyone take a deep breath, and lets see if we can make Government more accountable in the future. Doing the same as the former Government is, obviously, not good enough. The OBA need to be better.

  32. Did he do it? says:

    Why do people say if there is an Election today, OBA would loose? I didn’t vote, I abstained too but if I did vote I would vote for anybody whose name is not PLP!!! Actually think PLP would be fooling themselves if they think everyone who abstained would vote PLP next time! By the way, ask Michael Misick who in Bermuda he sold Government owned land too!!!!!!

    • js says:

      the OBA had momentum and the wind at their back and only won by a fraction

      the PLP lost momentum and was facing a strong head wind of allegations of corruption so forth which the OBA has interestingly gone silent on and only lost by a fraction

      logic would dictate that the PLP with a little momentum and favourable wind would edge ahead in 5 years time

      the irony is that the OBA’s own diehard and vocal supporters will by their provocative behaviour and statements give marginal PLP supporters who perhaps abstained from the last election a reason to run to the polls in the next

      there is social and racial solidarity on both sides of the political spectrum and it is clear that the PLP will be the ones to benefit from any divisiveness

      they don’t need to be the ones to instigate it, it just has to be there for all to witness

      • LOL (original TM*) says:

        Same stuff you all were saying before the election just past and guess what the OBA won. Doesn’t matter if the PLP gave them the win or if they earned it. Although in my opinion it was a little of both as I don’t think the PLP wanted to win as they knew that the tuff decision would have to be made. So instead of making them and possible damaging their rep as the people’s party (even though they did not really try to be every person party and where trying to appeal to the majority which to them is race when I think they would do better if they went after case majority) they figured let the OBA be the hated party and we’ll win it back in 5 years when thing might be evening out again. I mean like what one month in Walton and Bean were basically suggesting that they would hold the votes as close to the wire as they could in hopes that they could hold a no confidence vote and go back to the polls. Talk about trying to steal the Government…………..

        LOL

  33. waitasecond says:

    It depresses me that these three did not comprehend what they were doing. I cast my vote for a different Bermuda, with higher standards and less vain politicians, not more of the same. I would love to know who they met with and what had transpired before they stepped into the jet so I can get a better sense of what led up to this. I would also like to understand why this should be treated as confidential. Maybe there is a good reason but it does create a suspicion that they are trying to hide their embarrasment behind a cloak of confidentiality. We all make mistakes and I am willing to give them a pass this time, particularly as they are our only hope. DON’T DO IT AGAIN !

  34. Larry Woolgar says:

    Oh this is rich. We took foreign ex terrorists without any conversation or consultation…nothing! What a joke!
    These guys never travelled on our tax money and there is no way they would feel bribed by an airplane ride.
    “Thinking they are something that they are not?! Wrong! They are the government.
    This is all about nothing! And don’t worry, we will get to know what happened with all our money that the PLP lost during 14 years. Oh yeahm that’s coming!

    • My2Cents says:

      Larry Woolgar, I actually think that the OBA will do absolutely nothing about any alleged misdeeds of the PLP. They very well know that prosecution any allegations of corruption of the PLP will very expensive and time consuming, and it will be difficult to secure a conviction. They will however continue to reap the political benefits and points of having the allegations linger in the public arena.. This in my view is cowardly. So unless or until the OBA take substantive steps to investigate and prosecute any alleged nefarious conduct of the PLP I suggest that they and their followers hold their collective tongues.

      • Larry Woolgar says:

        Thanks for your opinion!

        • My2Cents says:

          Mr. Woolgar, your attempt at sarcasm denigrates the debate. Please bear in mind that healthy and productive debate is one of the hallmarks of a thriving democracy. If however you do not wish to engage in such then I will trouble you no longer with rebuttals.

          • Larry Woolgar says:

            And your perception that I am being sarcastic is sufficient for me to know that you are not worthy of anything more than my cursory answer.

            • My2Cents says:

              Larry Woolgar, sadly you are showing your true nature. By stating that I am not worthy you have descended into making personal attacks. I have absolutely no problem with debating you on the issues and you disagreeing with me, but getting personal is inappropriate. Now, I will give you the opportunity to retract your personal attack or apologize so that we can move this debate forward. I must say though that I would not be surprised if you do not answer at all or you continue with your smart allecky comments. I am waiting for your response…..

      • Sandy Bottom says:

        Why? You think the alleged corruption should be swept under the carpet?

        • My2Cents says:

          Sandy Bottom, in no way should any credible allegations of corruption of the PLP be left unprosecuted. However, the OBA must fish or cut bait. My goodness, they have access to the papers which must surely indicate if there is any evidence of alleged corruption. Now I understand that it may take time to put together a case but surely by the end of this year the police should be in a position to arrest someone from the PLP for alleged corrupt conduct, that is if they were indeed allegedly corrupt. It is up to the OBA to make a formal complaint to the police, and they must PUT UP OR SHUT UP. As I said though, the OBA will do nothing.

          • Sandy Bottom says:

            Failure to prosecute does not indicate innocence.

            • My2Cents says:

              Sandy Bottom, so the well known legal maxim “innocent until proven guilty” means absolutely nothing to you. Has there ever been a time in your life when you were wrongly or unfairly accused of something? Do you not know of any examples when someone, maybe a friend or family member, has had their reputation sullied because of malicious or simply incorrect information? What if I made scurrilous accusations about you and disseminated them loudly and frequently without having the courage to go to the authorities with a complaint, would you not feel aggrieved?

              May I repeat, if there is any credible evidence of PLP corruption then prosecute. If not, then any allegations of corruption are vacuous.

              • Sandy Bottom says:

                So if the Premer is not prosecuted, Bean and co will stop talking about this plane trip, will they?

                • My2Cents says:

                  Sandy Bottom, firstly, I do not think anyone is alleging criminal or corrupt conduct by the Premier so there is no need for a prosecution. The height of the Opposition Leader’s complaint is that there was a conflict of interest. Having said this, if the PLP are alleging criminal or corrupt conduct and they have no evidence of such then yes they should remain quiet.

                  Secondly, any initial allegations have been made fact by the Premier himself. He admitted to going on this jet set trip and that expenses were paid for by potential investors. This admission legitmately raises the appearance of a conflict and quiet rightly questions are now being asked about this trip in the House and in the public arena.

                  I will say this though, I think it is hypocritical for Wayne Furbert to complain about anything since he admitted to doing the exact same thing. He definitely should remain quiet.

  35. yes says:

    yaaaaaaaawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnah zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  36. yes says:

    life is so much better off the weed

  37. A. Little says:

    O.K….So, the OBA copied a page or two or three or four, from the infamous PLP playbook. The OBA must have a flip flop, surrogate spy ‘planted’ somewhere trading ‘unethical but not illegal’ secrets.

    C’mon OBA, we voted for change, not ‘more of the same’. Lets all kiss and make up now and move on…….next.

  38. Bulldog says:

    This country is in for some serious trouble if we the people don’t hold our elected officials to account for their actions. If I vote for you then you must play by the rules in place and do your best for the country. I am shocked that it seems that no one cares about whether it was right or wrong. We can not just blindly support who we voted for. We must ensure that they do what they say they are going to do and not just be satisfied that we are on the “winning team”. In the end Bermuda will lose.

  39. Observer says:

    The Jet is no big deal folks – they are no more than a car for some – only the inexperienced would complain – jets fly in here often and are used as one would use a Limo. We live in a global community and are on the list of developed nations – why not start acting like it. A jet is really no big deal – it is there for convenience not luxury. Premier you did the right thing and nothing you have done can compare to the excesses of the former Government – to top it off what you did was not at the expense of the tax payer. Well done.

  40. Johnny Boy says:

    Half way through this video I had to switch it off,, can’t stand this whiney child making noise.. He needs to go on a private jet and take a long trip, I’ll pay the ticket if he stays away long enough..
    Premier, great that you got to meet these investors and return to the island to continue running the country.. Bermuda needs to understand that the country is broken and these kind of deals are necessary to get the country up and running again.. Now we need to see some plans for different sites of interest.. Would be great to see a new hotel on the horizon..
    Keep up the good clean up OBA,,

  41. waitasecond says:

    I can’t believe 64% of those polled on RG thought the jet was ok. They say that people get the Government they deserve. Maybe we deserve Ewart Brown? We need to have ZERO TOLERANCE for unethical behaviour.

  42. pilot011 says:

    who is the real Larry Woolgar?

  43. pilot011 says:

    OBA supporters will cause them to lose the next election because of their nasty comments against the people of this country who did not vote for OBA. Remember some PLP supporters did not vote AND they did not vote for the OBA either, but you can bet your boots they will be out the next time for the PLP. Ask the RG to do one of their famous polls!!

    • Balanced Facts says:

      Really? On the basis of the PLP performance, depth of intellect, skill, reputation and experience as an Opposition so far. You think people have forgotten 14 years of the PLP Government in 6 months??? Really? I don’t think so…especially after the HYPOCRISY of of Jet Gate…the PLP are a cringeful laughing stock!

  44. pwndwg says:

    This wasn’t a junket. The ministers were acting in the best interests of Bermuda. What would Bean have done? Refused the meeting? PLP ministers used to call business leaders and DEMAND use of corporate jets for trips to the Caribbean etc. The also used to demand paid board seats. There’s an ocean of difference between these governments.

    • Dr. the Hon. Ewart F. Brown says:

      Clarification request: I would like for pwndwg to name the ministers who DEMANDED use of corporate jets and board seats.