Ministry Introduces Custodial Technician Training

January 27, 2014

The Ministry of Home Affairs announced today [Jan 27] that in a “simultaneous effort to get Bermudians back to work and reduce the issuance of work permits in the field,” they launched a Custodial Technician Certification training programme in collaboration with industry partners.

The two-week course, which has 12 participants, is currently being held at the Bermuda College. It began January 20 and concludes January 31st.

The first week of the course involved soft skills training such as understanding the importance of time management, having a strong work ethic understanding and communicating effectively with customers.

The second week of the course will deal with the industry standards regarding cleaning, including learning and understanding the basic types of cleaning agents and identifying physical actions of cleaning agents.

The course programme is being overseen by the Department of Workforce Development who have engaged the Cleaning Management Institute – a New York based organization – to facilitate the training.

At the end of the course, the successful participants will be awarded the Front Line Certification, which is recognized throughout North America.

Minister of Home Affairs Michael Fahy said, “We are pleased to introduce training programmes aimed at getting Bermudians back to work.

“Our immigration data indicates that the issuance of work permits in the custodial field is quite high. So we have tasked the Department of Workforce Development to identify areas in the job market where we can realistically introduce training courses to equip Bermudians with the necessary skills to assume these jobs in our workforce.

“We have introduced similar training courses in the past, such as the Butcher’s programme and the Automotive Repair Technicians programme and we have had some relative success with those.

“So the public can expect to see more initiatives like this in the future and we encourage those who are seeking employment to sign up with the Department of Workforce Development so that they can take advantage of our training programmes when they become available.”

Minister Fahy will recognise the students upon the completion of the training programme.

And he thanked local businesses in assisting with the Custodial Technician Training Programme including, Bermuda Cleaning, Pro-Tone Cleaning Services Ltd., Do All Cleaning, Ace Cleaning, and Marshall’s Maintenance.

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  1. frank says:

    so now we can send some cleaners back home

    • Intrigued says:

      Doubtful, Employers will find another reason not to hire Bermudians.

      I wonder how many cleaners here now have this cleaning certification. My guess in NONE. They just cost less, and they don’t complain.

      • Tommy Chong says:

        Of course they don’t complain because what they make converts in there currency enough to feed their family back home & build themselves a mansion while local children go with empty bellies to school & live in homes filled with stress & turmoil because their parents can’t make ends meet. No wonder children are looking to the ghetto universities for their education & source of funds. Not that I condone the ghetto university solution but what the heck does Dunkley expect with Fahy’s follow the PLP’s ideas solution. Minister Fahy is making your job harder Dunkley & I suggest you address this before things go more sideways then they already are.

        • Yahoo says:

          WTF are you babbling about? Please take your meds and try again…

          • Tommy Chong says:

            You need meds so you can stop sucking on those sugar pills.

            “No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” – Albert Einstein

            • Mazumbo says:

              It’s better to die for an idea that will live
              Than to live for an idea that will die
              Stephen Biko

            • Keepin' it Real...4Real! says:

              Albert smoked weed too…

    • Tommy Chong says:

      Because those foreign cleaners have a fancy “Custodial Technician” Degree already, the world is flat, & the moon is made of cheese.

    • Mazumbo says:

      How about plumbing, masons, carpentry, motor mechanics, electricians, etc, etc.

      • Kangoocar says:

        Gosh darn your right on this one??? I wish the plp had not allowed so many of them in here!!!!

    • Jo Blo says:

      Ive said it once and I will say it again. Only the strongest survive. Whether it be janitors or executives, the OBA recognizes that a Bermuda with the most talented population possible is the better Bermuda. Even if it means Bermudians, who have little more than their “roots” here to show for their existence here,have to be displaced by new ones.

      • Tommy Chong says:

        Displaced by new ones!!! What the…

        What type of psychotic junk are you on? Have you been dabbling in the bath salts?

        In cypress & any other country throughout history with groups of people with that mindset have ruined the country & placed it in constant turmoil. If the OBA really wanted the most talented population possible they wouldn’t allow the permits that have gone through for all the workers who can’t even provide papers showing the knowledge of the job they applied for.

        Besides the survival of the fittest theory does not apply to unemployed versus employed it applies to physical strength & primal instincts. This is why the suits in America can’t contain the populations they have “displaced” & live in fear of them so they have to buy security for all their possessions. Globalisation is a fraud & doesn’t work & never did instead it’s caused wars, divisions, genocide, slavery, animosity & lastly its the reason for the whole recession.

        I hope if anyone is ever “displaced” they are “displaced” into your yard.

  2. CFamous says:

    “The course programme is being overseen by the Department of Workforce Development who have engaged the Cleaning Management Institute – a New York based organization – to facilitate the training.”

    So the taxpayers are paying to bring people in to teach Bermudians how to clean?

    Seriously?

    • Nail Technician says:

      They were used to teach young ladies how to do nails, and yet you didn’t complain then…

      Very strange…

      • CFamous says:

        The nail techs were trained by a Bermudian up at the Bermuda College.

        • Hypocrite says:

          And these cleaners are being taught at the BDA College as well…

          Also, the drywall course initiated by the PLP required Bermudians to be sent overseas for training by those damned foreigners. And I have a sneaking suspicion that they charged for their services as well..

          So your point is?

          If you think cleaning commercial and residential properties is as simple as a mop, water and soap you are sorely mistaken. You use the wrong solution on the wrong surface and you can cause thousands of dollars of damage.

          And what is the problem with teaching Bermudians the ins and outs of a particular trade? With these skills they will be better positioned to open their own business and become entrepreneurs. I mean that is what Mr. Marc Bean is constantly advocating. Or do you think that he only wants for Bermudians to sell “sodas” and “trinkets” to tourists disembarking the cruise ships

      • Tommy Chong says:

        The OBA did complain about PLPs nail technicians course & commented that it was not needed. Ironically enough a Nail Technician place opened up recently on Reid Street.

        • Story Teller says:

          Please reference/cite the source which the OBA complained about the nail technician program.

          Just one will be enough.

          • Kangoocar says:

            Yeah right!!! Like they can reference that??? Hahahahahaha just more noise from the empty vessels!!

          • Tommy Chong says:

            OBA’s actual comments were,

            “I want to draw attention to two items that will help young Bermudians get jobs,” continued Ms Swan. “The first is the plan to give employers a payroll tax exemption for every new Bermudian they hire.

            “And the second is the plan to crack down on employers who abuse immigration rules. This is an area which can open up significant job opportunities. It is long past due.”

            “The Throne Speech two weeks ago was the Government’s chance to tell Bermuda how it was going to get people working again. But it said nothing on the issue. Not having a jobs plan in the midst of an unemployment crisis is not what the people of my generation need. It’s not acceptable.”

            This was the OBA’s response to PLP’s Nail Technician & DryWall training program but ironically they have the same sort of plan which they before elected considered as saying nothing on the unemployment issues.

            Here is the source.

            http://bernews.com/2012/11/video-oba-on-youth-unemployment-numbers/

            • Tommy Chong says:

              Hey kangoo!!! The reference is right below you & this comment is to shove it where it should go.

            • Where is it? says:

              So exactly where is the specific complaint against the nail technician program?

              • Tommy Chong says:

                It’s there above with it’s source. Just go to the source & read the whole article. Someone doesn’t have to list detailed specifics to complain about something especially if they have a list of things they are lumping together like Nail Technician & DryWall training plus the other training that was provided. If a landscaper is employed to cut grass, trip hedges, rake leaves & power wash the patio if the costumer doesn’t feel the work has been properly done they simply say that they don’t agree with what was done no specifics needed when it’s implied to what is applied.

                • Reading is Key says:

                  “The OBA did complain about PLPs nail technicians course & commented that it was not needed.”

                  I have read the article several times over and I still can’t see where the nail technician program was criticised or stated it was not needed.

                  • Tommy Chong says:

                    Yes reading IS the key.

                    “The Throne Speech two weeks ago was the Government’s chance to tell Bermuda how it was going to get people working again. But it said nothing on the issue. Not having a jobs plan in the midst of an unemployment crisis is not what the people of my generation need. It’s not acceptable.”

                    This is OBA’s reference to PLP’s throne speech & if you go & read that speech it references their job training programs implemented that OBA is pointing out as, “said nothing on the issue” this is the same as complaining & claiming the action is not needed to solve the problem. There’s no way to pick out specifics to much of what OBA said prior to election because all speeches were very vague & all one can do is look at what they commented on & what their thoughts were on it & use common sense as a conclusion. I already explain this from above & used an example but if you have a better explanation for the meaning to OBA’s response let it be known.

                    • Reading is Key says:

                      “There’s no way to pick out specifics to much of what OBA said ”

                      But somehow you did above? As always you are the smartest in the room Tommy.

                      You are right (even though you could not point out one VALID example to evidence your below statement:

                      “The OBA did complain about PLPs nail technicians course & commented that it was not needed.”

                      Hold on Tommy. In your original claim you said the OBA COMMENTED on the fact that these programs were not needed and then you state that by NOT COMMENTING on them they actually COMMENTED on it.

                      Haha. You’re hilarious. But right as always. Hahaha.

                    • Tommy Chong says:

                      This is not a specific I picked out from the OBA speech it’s a specific from the throne speech that the OBA referred to. I never said they didn’t comment on it I EXPLAINED that it was an indirect comment but anyone with grade school language skills would get that. Apparently you have no idea what the OBA’s comment was about because if you did you would have corrected me but instead you beat around the bush. Bet you voted for them even though you had no idea what they were saying. This is typical of party politics to follow blindly & happens on all sides.

                      By the way just to be, “specific” beat around the bush means to avoid answering a question; to stall; to waste time.

                    • 32n64w says:

                      So the answer is an unqualified no. They made no specific reference to the program but that didn’t stop a sweeping remark.

  3. Malachi says:

    If this program started on January 20, 2014, then why is only being announced today?.
    And the 12 participants, how did they find out – are they special friends of those in the know?

    Just seems odd to me!

    • Rich says:

      Likely they were registered with Workforce Development and contacted directly that way.

    • Scrubs says:

      you are so right. look at the adds, 2 years 3years even 5 years of continuous service, or must know how to strip floors with a special sauce. I have been trying to get a job in the field just to have a job and now I se this and it started on the 20th. Instead of 12 it would have been 13 and probably more if we all knew about it.

  4. Tommy Chong says:

    Minister Fahy & these business owners expect us to believe that ALL the JANITORS employed already have a degree in this fancy dressed job title? I challenge Minister Fahy & these business owners to produce proof that these foreign workers have this title. This is just another facade produced by Minister Fahy to excuse employers for employing foreign workers over bermudians. Patrice Minors did the same smoke & mirrors trick with her training programs to shut the public up & then in the end the unemployment rate stayed the same. Funny how in the last election I voted for a promised change but still we have the same ish different day. Government needs to stop protecting employers & work for the better of the local population.

    • Yahoo says:

      You are such an idiot.

      Of course they don’t have this “degree” but I bet they know all of this stuff. By taking this course and getting certified, employers will know that these 12 people are not going to ruin floors, carpets or furniture by using the wrong chemicals…

      Don’t knock people for trying… it is such a rare commodity on this island!

      • Tommy Chong says:

        “Of course they don’t have this “degree” but I bet they know all of this stuff.” LMAO!!! “they know all of this stuff” HOW!!! They’re not as you put it, “certified” by this degree so HOW!!! You dare call me an idiot when you’re so daft that you contradict yourself in the same paragraph. I guess it’s true that ignorance is bliss seeing how positive you are over being fed a placebo. How do you think the 30 or more cleaning companies on this island managed to make sure all their employees didn’t ruin there costumers floor if they didn’t get this special degree? Don’t worry I won’t subject you to overworking whatever neurons you do possess finding that answer & I’ll tell you. They were taught on the job numpty dumpty by someone who already knew.

        Another thing I’d like to clear up is that I’m not knocking anyone for trying to better themselves. Who I’m knocking is the minister & employers for making them jump through hoops for a job that many a foreigner was given without having to do the same & I’m willing to bet more will get without the fancy title. You can make things more complicated then they are all you want but at the end of the day it boils down to cronyism plain & simple.

        That was my fancy lesson for you today free of charge. Now you can go back to enjoying your sugar pill. Tah! Tah!

  5. margaret says:

    @Tommy Chong. I fail to see how this initiative can be views as negative. What’s wrong with gaining new skills to make yourself attractive to an employer? Does it say it is a requirement presently or going forward? No. Does it say the will have some sort of title? No. Clearly these participants signed up for at Governments Workforce Development and therefore were informed of the training opportunity.

    • margaret says:

      Excuse typos

    • Tommy Chong says:

      It strongly insinuates these requirements especially in this paragraph quoted from the minister, “Our immigration data indicates that the issuance of work permits in the custodial field is quite high. So we have tasked the Department of Workforce Development to identify areas in the job market where we can realistically introduce training courses to equip Bermudians with the necessary skills to assume these jobs in our workforce.” You either don’t know how to read between the lines or you do & are trying to candy coat words. Why would locals need to equip themselves with the skills to assume these jobs in our workforce when the majority of those foreigners hired for these jobs didn’t have to. These foreigners got on job training while getting paid but locals need to join these courses to get the same job. Why can’t these businesses just announce an offer of the same opportunity to locals as they did to these foreigners. I sympathise with you if you are so naive to think that training a handful of locals for positions filled by hundreds of foreigners will help. This is just a buffer between the minister & the public just as Patrice Minors did during the PLP era.

  6. Rhonda Neil says:

    when are the halves/OBA going to stop selling to the have not that they are ignorant, lazy and a lack a work ethics…. this is fools gold being sold….

    UBP sold the uneducated Bermudian in the 60ies….and the renamed UBP are just carrying on with the same…..

    • Yahoo says:

      It is “haves” Rhonda, not “halves”. This is why you “have not”.

      • Time Shall Tell says:

        Wait, just a few posts up you wrote a post full of typos & you’re critiquing on someone else for doing the same?

        • Yahoo says:

          I think you have me confused with someone else – there are no typos in any of my posts.

    • Tommy Chong says:

      I agree that this reeks with implications that unemployed Bermudians are ignorant, lazy & lack a work ethics but disagree with your parallel of the current government & UBP. Under the UBP the only mass amount of foreign workers brought in were the portuguese but this was during a time when our population was far less & we needed these workers for their knowledge of landscaping & construction. Many old Bermudians in these fields were train on site by the portuguese & later excelled because of the training.

      The problem we have with many foreigners in blue collar jobs was cause by PLP. While PLP pushed IB out of the island they allowed permit approvals of large numbers of workers for jobs that didn’t require a university or college degree. During the years of DREB as premier we had the most work permits approved EVER in the history of Bermudian government. It is PLP’s fault Bermudian workers have been replaced & it seems OBA is going along the same path so if any connection is to be made it should be OBA/PLP.

  7. whatwillittake says:

    Custodians, dishwashers is all bermudians can do? Why not offer training for legal secretaries? Administrative professionals? How to own your own business? How about those who have degrees and cant find a job?

    • JustAskin2 says:

      Well all the ex-pats that the OBA are planning to give citizenship (who will take the higher paying jobs) will need housemaids and janitors won’t they???

  8. Fur ball says:

    hI,I worked for —- cleaning, I was the only Bermudian there, my wife had back problems,and I called the manerger and left a message,that I would not be at work from mon,to thru, because I had to take care of her, the manerger said to the boss that he did not get my message, and when I went back work the boss let me go he said they never got my message, but check this, i had a new phone number on my cell,but the Insurance called me and said I can collect some money, and they could only get my number from the manerger,they just want the money to go out of Bermuda ,that is what,s pulling down this Island in the first place ps, this has to Stop,

    • Tommy Chong says:

      What your employer did was against the employment act. If it ever happens to you again or anyone you know you or they need to contact the tribunal & state your case. We as Bermudians need to know our rights & stand up for them. Even if you didn’t call as long as you were not on your employment’s probation stage you should of had a written warning that was signed by the employer & you not just let go on the spot.

    • Bob Barker says:

      Nowhere else in the world would anyone expect to get four days off by leaving a message and then not following up. In fact, I don’t think it was much of a reason for expecting four days off.

      Problem is that businesses need consistent workers. Sadly, few wish to be that consistent. Many still view sick days as rightful holidays.

      • Tommy Chong says:

        I agree with you that’s not a good move for the employee but that’s why the law states you must write them up. If the employer smartens up then you’ve worked it out & not there’s proof of why you fired them besides as an employer you are supposed to also give out an employment agreement to be signed by the employee before they are employed. The employment agreement should cover all the rules of employment. Many employers here don’t even have a clue about employment laws & spend years in a business disobeying them because like most other laws in Bermuda they are laxly enforced. There are employers here who will let an employee go at the drop of a hat, not claim on all payroll deductibles, not give an employee the correct amount of vacation or sick days, not give proper holiday or overtime pay & other infractions. How can an employer expect their employees to be ethical when their business is run unethically.

    • Kangoocar says:

      @fur ball, I would have fired you as well!! I only have Bermudians working for me and I could write a book on the nonsense I have to deal with daily with them!! It is only because of Bermudians desperate situation because of the last 7 yrs of the plp that I have not brought in foreigners and believe me I could with no problem!! Every Bermudian I have has no qualifications and I have spent thousands of hours of my own time training them!!!
      I will end by telling you a story from a friend of mine that has a landscaping company ( I am not in that business ) he actually showed up at one of his clients house to find his riding mower behind a wall and still running and his Bermudian employee nowhere to be found??? To this day he has never heard back from him?? And we wonder why we have foreigners brought in too do the jobs Bermudians could be doing????

      • Tommy Chong says:

        A little advice, go enroll yourself in some training & business management courses because if you’ve spent that much time training instead of properly delegating then you’re the weakest link.

        • Sandy Bottom says:

          What business do you run then Tommy? How many Bermudians do you employ?

          • Tommy Chong says:

            No need to get personal this is a news forum not E-harmony.

            Just to satisfy part of your question without getting too personal the percentage is 80% local 5% spouse & 15% expat. The expats have been hired for positions that require specific knowledge of technology that I’m certain no locals except the ones interested in learning from the expats. Expats do learn from the locals just as much as locals learn from them but the expats must already have the knowledge they are hired for & the papers to prove it to justify permit expenses. After paying the permit it doesn’t make any sense to pay another employee to train the expat. All are paid fairly according to what they produce with incentives to do better. There has been issues with both expats & locals & all have been handled by the book with written reports & personal meetings to work out an understanding & solution. There’s no separation of locals, expats or spouses they are all treated as a team & must know what each one’s job is so each part connects & runs smoothly. It is much easier & less time consuming to run a business objectively than subjectively because it creates a common goal to be reached by all not a divided staff that sees the their coworker as a threat.

      • Youainkserious says:

        It’s great you only hire Bermudians. Do you hire them on a sub-contracted basis so you can fire them at any given time without having to pay insurance unless they can last to becoming full time? Do you tell them to get HIP in the meantime which basically covers jack-all? Do you pay them the lowest possible wage yet expect them to go to the moon for you? Do you then drop that wage once full time so you actually lose nothing on their insurance? If you answered yes to these questions I think the only favor you are doing these Bermudians is giving them some kind of income until they can find an employer who actually gives a damn about their employees. I know some employers like that and it’s really a no brainer as to why they can’t keep anyone on.

  9. Senior says:

    Minister Fahy needed to watch 60 Minutes last night, there was a segment from which perhaps he could have learned something. Does he really believe that Bermudians are only capable of being janitors and the like? I personally know several Bermudians with degrees from respected universities who have been seeking employment in the corporate world but they have had to be satisfied with being waiters, bartenders and bank tellers, etc. This man and his party are a joke!

    • JustAskin2 says:

      – OBA training Bermudians to obtain low paying jobs
      – OBA pushing commercial immigration to bring ex-pats to Bermuda who I’m sure will occupy the higher paying jobs.

      I’m telling you Bermuda; you’re going to wake up one day and find yourself back in the 50′s.

  10. Unbelievebale says:

    Jesus, you lot. This kind of programme was also started under the PLP for other occupations.

    You’ve all been moaning for so long that there are too many foreigners doing these blue collar jobs but the SECOND someone does something to introduce Bermudians to the industry, it’s still not good enough. Some of you really need to evaluate how you judge something or someone.

    A buddy of mine owns a restaurant in town and he had a Bermudian working as a waitress and she was good for 2 weeks and then one day he said she went on break and never came back. Now he’s looking for someone to replace her. I’m sorry, but Bermudians need a sense of pride in themselves and others. Some of us are sitting around expecting the world to be given to us but we can’t be bothered to earn it. And we can’t get what we want, we blame somebody else.

    You’re right…ain’t nothing changed.

    • Tommy Chong says:

      You prejudge ALL Bermudians from one Bermudian & so do employers & in this lies the problem. Sure PLP tried the same thing & it failed because it’s not the solution. Why are OBA picking up where PLP left off didn’t they promise a change not the same old? The problem is the employers like your buddy who rather hire a foreigner over a Bermudian & will find any excuse to do so.

      • Unbelievebale says:

        who said he hired a foreigner? he hired a Bermudian, she flaked out and disappeared and now he’s looking for another Bermudian to replace her.
        He’s not going to put in a work permit for a foreigner to be a waitress. Immigration isn’t going to let him so he’s hamstrung.

        And the thing is…he’s an ex-pat himself!

        • Tommy Chong says:

          Yes! Yes! I got the part where he hired a Bermudian. The Bermudian you want to use as an example of all Bermudians. I’ll leave your buddy’s opinion out of it as your the one making the comment & it’s my bad to transfer your ideals onto your buddy when he may feel different from you. I hope your buddy tries again as not all Bermudians are the same. Odd how your buddy can’t get a permit for a foreign waitress when so many others can get permits for many of them. Maybe if he became a part of a group of restaurant owners who has an ex minister as a shareholder he would have better luck with a permit even though for the sake of locals lively hood I hope he doesn’t.

        • Johnny says:

          Your reply makes no sense. First you say your friend wants to hire a Bermudian, then you say immigration won’t let him hire a foreigner as a waitress. Which is it, does he want a Bermudian or a foreigner?

  11. watching says:

    So are we to believe that all the Portuguese and Filipino (and others) cleaners on the island all have some type of certification in cleaning>?
    I mean, really? this is getting pathetic. For these cleaning companies to hire Bermudians they are going to require an internationally recognized cleaning certificate? This is beyond pathetic.

  12. Vested says:

    I own a cleaning company and as sad as it is, the Bermudians who want to clean, and apply for these jobs cannot clean. You have to consider that generations have moved on and these girls mommas’ / grannies / aunties did not teach them how to clean, how to move stuff around on the kitchen counter to get behind…to get on knees to get stuff in cornders of floor…to clean out a fridge and all its contents…these girls are a joke…really. And after 2-3 hours work, they are finished for the day. And don’t talk about ironing…girls today do not know how to iron a man’s short..steam sheets or clean an iron after use..Cleaning 101…way overdue.

    • Tommy Chong says:

      Yet again another condescending , prejudice drip. Though you do set a new trend of also being chauvinistic on top of it all.

  13. Malachi says:

    I can see why some resort to a life of crime.

    It seems as though we are being required to jump through more and more hoops. If the position requires you have a degree in business, then some will also need twenty years experience and be fluent in Chinese. If it requires that you have twenty years experience shovelling sh*t, and you have such experience, then for some, they won’t get the job because their experience was with horsrsh*t as opposed to cowsh*t.

    No end to the bullsh*t!

    • Tommy Chong says:

      Of course not! You cant get a job as a cow excretory removal technician if you only have experience as a horse excretory removal technician.

    • Sandy Bottom says:

      Yeah. Two weeks of training. Too much for you.

      Don’t bother then. Sit around complaining about foreigners.

      • Tommy Chong says:

        Two weeks training for 12 in an industry with hundreds already hired. That’s like hunting a bear with a slingshot & pebble. It may work if other locals were hired later & trained by the twelve but I highly doubt thats the plan. This is just a placebo initiated by PLP & now adopted by our new government. It’s a wander why they’ve took on the same actions PLP started & have not stuck to the plan they promised pre-election.

  14. Max says:

    I just hope they teach them how to report abuse from foreigners who want to keep their Jobs. I have seen so much of this in another program run by Government and workers get fed up rude and quit so coping mechanisms should be in place. I know what I am talking about I have witnessed this also there should be an Industry watch dog to look out for bad employers. Workers you also Need to not give them silly things to fire you for aswell

  15. shaka zula says:

    I worked 20 years at cleaning,and one of few Bermudians that was certified by Dupont cleaning in carpets in the USA.I got my papers but was muscled out after they had me training guys from the azores and south america..It is all about how much cheaper they can get the worker, and yes employers all was finds a way around of getting more foreign workers.The company i worked at now is 80 percent over seas workers..

    • shaka zula says:

      at yes i know for a fact most of the workers, new nothing about cleaning when they came, they where great dairy wokers, farmers and some mason and carpenters, but what ever work permit they can get there hands on , is all they want to get here and work..

    • Kangoocar says:

      I would be willing to bet that you are not being totally honest here, take a long look at yourself and try again!!! As an employer I can tell you it costs a bomb to bring in foreigners and we all wish we didn’t have too!!! I actually have hung on and not done it, but believe me 4 out of 5 days a week I question my wisdom????

      • Tommy Chong says:

        You’re questioning some ones honesty when you can’t keep your own story straight from one comment to the next. You blame PLP in your comment to Fur ball now it’s that you’re giving grace to locals. SMH!!! Those locals must be making you some good change if you can afford to not work a full week.

        You only have to pay $1000 for a permit unless your applying for a 10 year permit. Maybe you need a math course along with a training & management one. Other employers have already figured out that if they pay a foreigner $4 less than a local they get a return by years end. Best catch up now! :D

  16. Ian says:

    And the tally continues

    Wins for Bermudians, courtesy of the OBA:
    1. Creation of training programs for skilling up locals to be qualified “Custodial Technicians”.
    2. Nothing else DIRECTLY benefiting Bermudians although “assurances” they MIGHT see residual benefits resulting from the Wins for Non Bermudians listed below…

    Wins for Non-Bermudians, courtesy of the OBA:
    1. Work permit limits scrapped despite assertions by OBA to suspend them temporarily.
    2. PRC status given to loosely-defined “senior managers” who now get to compete with average bermudians for housing and commercial opportunities through their immense savings after years of thriving on the likes of housing/transportation/tuition/travel/utility allowances.
    3. Scrapping the 60/40 local business ownership rule; Capital G recently under control of foreigners. Whether good or bad move, expect more headliners like that in days ahead.
    4. Lowering barriers to foreign access to Bermuda realty through temporary (so they say) cuts to duty rates and rezoning of lands to facilitate foreign ownership.
    5. Scrapping gaming referendum to move forward in the interests of promises made to 3rd party foreign investors – yes that is indeed what happened.
    6. Scrapping the land licensing legislation, which was intended to counter illegal fronting of real estate reserved for locals. Regardless of how overkill the measure was, the OBA never followed on w an alternative proposal for fighting illegal fronting.
    7. Giving well-to-do expat residents the assurance they (OBA) support them to the extent of seeing ABOSOLUTELY nothing wrong with giving their privileged children the opportunity to compete with Bermudian kids from way more humble / in-need-of-support households for summer jobs IN A RECESSION.
    8. What we all expect will be the OBA’s (once again) unwaivering plans to push through commercial immigration as a measure to hopefully build their support base going into the next election… err I mean for the benefit of and creation of jobs for Bermudians.

    There is nothing new going on here. And it can be pretty much guaranteed that, even for many OBA supporters, it will be too late before you realize this party has sold us out as a people and nation.

    • Sandy Bottom says:

      The government is training Bermudians and you see that as a negative. Got it.

      • Johnny says:

        Out of that long list or things that Ian wrote. You conveniently read only the first line. If you did read the whole post, why not comment on other parts. Or maybe your silence suggests you agree, but are not willing to say anything ‘not good’ about your beloved.

  17. bluebird says:

    Interesting…..all these persons that complain don’t own a Business,they don’t work in a Business they don’t run a Business.
    So they are a few of the 8,000 Government workers on the Payroll of $750Million per year it cost to keep them.
    And they “THINK” that there job is safe they think it will never go away.But the economy cannot support them for long as we are still borrowing $300Million per year to pay them.With a DEBT ofcourse of $2.324Billion and interest at $120Million per year so far.
    And I see that 23.4% of “MORGAGES” are in trouble (that’s in Bermuda)
    according to the monetary authority.
    We will hear a different tune when the music stops.

  18. Fur ball says:

    @Kangoocar, The Attitude you have turns Bermudians away, improve on your people skills.

  19. Question says:

    This is the bottom line in this article and the motto of the OBA government (through their “deeds”):

    Bermudians are only worthy to be 2nd class citizens in their own country, if they stay; if not, we want to create an environment where they feel unwanted so they can leave and we can bring in ex-pats to give citizenship so they can vote for us and we can stay in control of the government.

    Q

    • Reading is Key says:

      How do ex-pats vote?

      • Question says:

        @Readingiskey:

        Once the proposed commercial immigration policy is in place, those persons will then be eligible to vote through the basis of citizenship.

        Any other questions?

        Q

        • Reading is Key says:

          Oh, sorry.

          I must’ve missed that announcement.

          Just one more question.

          When you have a moment can you please cite the link, source or proposed regulation which states that very fact?

          Thanks.

          • Question says:

            @Reading:

            No problem – - as the Government is looking at Singapore for our Tourism product, why don’t we take a look at their commercial immigration policy:

            Permanent Residence (PR)

            Non-Singaporeans can apply to be a Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR) by obtaining an Entry Permit. It is an application for Singapore Permanent Residency.

            The following groups of foreigners are eligible to submit their applications:

            Spouse and unmarried children (below 21 years old) of a Singapore Citizen (SC) / Permanent Resident (SPR);
            Aged parents of a Singapore Citizen;
            Employment Pass or Work Permit holders;
            Investors and Entrepreneurs;
            Procedure

            You can submit your application form together with all the required documents personally to:

            Permanent Resident Services Centre
            5th Storey, ICA Building
            10 Kallang Road, Singapore 208718

            Documents To Prepare

            1) Spouse/Child of a SC/SPR

            1 set of completed Form 4 obtainable at the Permanent Resident Services Centre. Applicants are required to complete Part A to Part E and Part G and local sponsor to complete Part F and Part H of the application form of (Form 4);
            The Accompanying Notes to Form 4 will detail supporting documents that will have to be submitted together with your application.
            2) Aged Parent of a SC

            Submit a complete an original copy of the Form 4 available at the Permanent Resident Services Centre.
            The Accompanying Notes to Form 4 will detail supporting documents that will have to be submitted together with your application.
            3) Employment Pass or Work Permit holders

            Applicants who are applying under the following categories of Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers Scheme, you would be required to submit two copies of the completed Form 4A (one original and one photocopy). You may obtain the form at the Permanent Resident Services Centre.
            The Accompanying Notes to Form 4 will detail supporting documents that will have to be submitted together with your application.
            You may submit an application for PR as soon as you are granted an Employment Pass.

            4) Investor and Entrepreneur

            Foreign investors with substantial capital, qualifications and good entrepreneurial track records can apply for permanent residence under the ‘Global Investor Program’.
            Under the Global Investor Programme (GIP) administered by the Economic Development Board (EDB, foreigners can be considered for Permanent Resident (PR) status if they invest a certain minimum sum in business set-ups and/or other investment vehicles such as venture capital funds, foundations or trusts that focus on economic development.

            Private residential properties investment will be considered for application for Permanent Resident application. A foreigner can be considered for PR status if he invests at least S$2 million in business set-ups, other investment vehicles such as venture capital funds, foundations or trusts, and/or private residential properties. Up to 50% of the investment can be in private residential properties, subject to foreign ownership restrictions under the Residential Property Act (RPA).

            Those interested can contact:

            Singapore Economic Development Board
            250 North Bridge Road
            #28-00 Raffles City Tower, Singapore 179101
            Tel: (65) 6832 6832
            Website: http://www.sedb.com

            Fees Payable

            The fee for an Entry Permit is S$100 and the fee for a Re-Entry Permit is S$10 per year. For foreigners applying for a visa, the fee is S$20 per issue.

            Processing Time

            The processing time for an application is averagely three to six months. They will be informed of the outcome by post.

            Q (BUT this doesn’t matter, does it? As I stated in my post, it is “proposed” right? You do understand what that means, correct?)

            • Reading is Key says:

              Thanks for that!

              Any chance that you can now provide a link which states that they intend to model BDA commercial immigration off of the Singapore model?

              Thanks again and this is fun!

      • Tommy Chong says:

        As mentioned by Question once they are given citizenship they can vote.