Two People Shot On Palmetto Road
[Updated] A short while ago [May 23] there was a shooting in the Palmetto Road area just west of Devonshire Recreation Club.
Bernews unofficially understands that two people may have been shot.
The Police have presently blocked off Palmetto Road from the junction of Roberts Avenue on the western side, and from the Dock Hill roundabout on the eastern side.
We have limited information at this time but will update as able.
Update 1:05pm: Some area residents have reported hearing four or five gunshots.
Update 1:07pm: We unofficially understand the injuries are not believed to be life-threatening.
Update 1:12pm: We unofficially understand the victims are in their late thirties or early forties.
Update 1:17pm: Police confirm two people have been shot and were transported to King Edward Memorial Hospital by private vehicle.
Update 1:30pm: Police confirm the shooting took place at approximately 12:35pm, and the victims are 48 and 39 years old. They were rushed to hospital and are presently being treated for gunshot wounds. Police said the condition of the two men is unknown at this time.
Update 1:35pm: Although the general vicinity is known, it is unclear at this time exactly where the shooting took place. Police officers were seen examining the area of the bus stop on Palmetto Road.
Update 2:07pm: Police statement
Around 12:35pm on Monday, Police responded to a confirmed firearm incident in the Palmetto Road, Devonshire area. A 48 year old man and a 39 year old man received gunshot wounds and were taken to King Edward VII Memorial Hospital for treatment.
The extent of their injuries is unknown at this time. Police have cordoned off the scene and an active investigation into this incident is underway. Police are appealing for any witnesses or anyone with any information to contact the Serious Crime Unit on 295-0011 or the independent, confidential Crime Stoppers Bermuda hotline on 800-8477.
Update 5:20pm: Both shooting victims are on general wards listed as stable.
Update 5:57pm: Police have issued a statement saying that it appears that two men wearing dark clothing and on a dark colored motorcycle shot the victims, who were also on a motorcycle. The full statement follows below:
Around 12:30pm today police received a number of telephone calls regarding the sound of gun shots in the Palmetto Road area. A short time later police officers received information that two men attended the emergency area at King Edward VII Memorial Hospital suffering from suspected gunshot wounds.
Police attended the hospital and can now confirm that both men received wounds which appear to have been inflicted by the use of a firearm and are being treated for non-life threatening injuries Police immediately commenced investigations into this attempted murder of a 48 year old man and a 39 year old man.
Initial information suggests that two men wearing dark clothing and riding on a dark colored scooter type motorcycle drove from the direction of Cedar Park (Old Military Road) onto Frog Lane, where they drove behind the two victims who were also traveling on a motorcycle.
Both motorcycles traveled west along Palmetto Road when shots were fired at the victims from the suspects’ vehicle. A brief pursuit began and eventually the suspects’ vehicle drove on to Border Lane North towards Friswells Road making good their escape.
Both victims realized that they were injured and travelled to the King Edward VII Memorial hospital for treatment. Investigators are making an appeal to any persons who were in the areas of Old Military Road, Frog Lane, Palmetto Road or Roberts Avenue at around 12.30pm and saw the pursuit, suspects or suspects’ vehicle to immediately contact police.
Alternatively any persons who have any information about this shooting incident, whether they believe it to be significant or not, are asked to contact police at telephone number 295-0011 or the confidential Crime Stoppers Hotline at 800-8477.
Very disturbing news…here’s hoping that the victims’ injuries are not too serious, and that the perpetrator(s) is/are swiftly apprehended and brought to justice…
We reap what we sow.
We need the ATF established here in Bermuda!
we need the A-Team here in Bermuda
Word is that is was on Friswells hill.
Come on “Mott”. Does it really matter where? What are you trying to say. Does it make a differance?
Hope they get the bastards. Opportunity, ….ok….let the others give their assesments. Sad….
I AM SOOO SICK AND TIRED!!!! TEARS ARE RUNNING DOWN MY FACE RIGHT NOW!! WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP LORD HAVE MERCYYYY! PISSED OFFF
I have some bad news for you ‘Raise DE ROOF’ – This ignorance will probably not stop… at least not anytime soon. The violence will continue on and will probably even get worse. Nobody has the answers and nobody has the solutions – we just have complaints and frustrations.
The truth is, how can you stop something that the Bible has predicted will happen? Evilness will consume, not just Bermuda, but the whole world. There will be great tribulations. If you think times are bad now, you haven’t seen anything yet. The future is not so bright; it only gets worse from here. I’m not trying to be negative, I don’t make the rules, I’m just the messenger.
Only Jesus can (and will) bring an end to all of this. If anybody disagrees, then who do you suggest will bring an end to all the violence that’s happening in Bermuda??? If you think the PLP, UBP, BDA, or even the OBA is going to stop it, you better think again. Satan is working overtime. Only the Lord can save us from destruction.
Woow, that’s a whole pile of stupid right there.
Praying, how to look like you’re doing something without actually doing anything.
well do you have a solution and are willing to actually do something? if not then you really shouldn’t ridicule someone for doing what they think will give them even the least bit of a chance.
Somebody somewhere in this thread has it right.
- figure out how to educate our children properly
- address the socio-econmic balance which gives rise to this underclass
- make preventing crimes of this nature a priority
add to this list, the need to have male role models in family units. Kill, if you pardon the expression, the social acceptance of baby daddies.
So yeah, I will ridicule thsoe that think praying will help. It’s pointless.
praying won’t help. holding parents accountable for not parenting their rude little Bast*%ds will work. too many sperm doners impreganted insecure or just plain stupid women. We’ve lost too many boys to this nonsense because silly women raise silly boys to be criminal men. They don’t work when they are older because they are not taught work ethics when their young. Momma gives them everything and has their back when they start trouble at school, at the bus terminal, at the football game, at the club (yeah moms hangs out at one end of the bar and sonny boi is in the corner with his piece of leg)…..some people don’t deserve the children they have.
Don’t forget that some of these ‘silly women’ raising these ‘silly boys’ do the best that they can do with absentee fathers….
I know of plenty of women whom you would probably consider silly but have done a fantastic job raising their kids by themselves.
A lot of these boys and men suffer from a lack of a strong male role model…..
I know that calling women silly was not your entire point ‘it wasnt me’, you are just tired and frustrated like the rest of us. But i just wanted to point out – that we can only do the best that we can and with what we have. Life aint easy for some people….
Have a great holiday y’all
You hit the nail on the head….
yes that person did say it. but i was directing it to YOU. what are YOU going to do. right now you just look like a parrot. want a cracker?
I raise my kids with respect and guidance. I try to be a role model. I involve myself in every aspect of their upbringing.
I am involved in their education. I engage with them.
They are not being raised on a diet of “gangsta TV’ and “street raspact”.
That’s what I’m doing.
I truely believe that We Bermudians have to come forth and help with information we have on things we see. Bermuda police know who these gang members are so start going door to door and serching ther guys homesuntil thehy and us in the neighbour hoods get a break through, people will get tired and talk if doors and neighbour hoods are targeted and serched more than two to three time a week as it is necessary. We all have a part to play in helping to solve these shootings,murders and crime.
You are absolutely right about that BLACK JESUS. These are the end times. Ask yourselves this “Are You Ready For The Coming Of CHRIST?”
Give me a break.
Harold Camping is that you?
That is so true only the good Lord can save us but we must realise that, believe and send up prayers for those who do not believe.
Here we go again!!! F#CK!!! ;/
Right True Dat? Leave religion out of it please! May 21st came and went. Once again we survived one of these so called raptures. When will these kneebenders learn that it’s all a hoax. People have been saying the end is near for hundreds if not thousands of years. Shut it up! You people are consistently wrong. These shootings are just ignorant arse people doing ignorant arse things. Guns don’t kill people! Religious people with guns kill people! Just look at the middle east!
@SOMERSET OG
nah man I been made that comment and it was addressed at the news that guys are shooting again… It irritated me that these guys just won’t wake up!! hence the comment… I do pray…
Come drink from the cup of destruction.
I feel you Raise de Roof.
It will stop when we:
- figure out how to educate our children properly
- address the socio-econmic balance which gives rise to this underclass
- make preventing crimes of this nature a priority
frank
It won’t stop untill the GANGS stop it. Police cant stop it, neightbours cant stop it, no one can except the gangs themself.
They need to get the two biggaz in both gangs and have a talk – sort this ish out, and done. Make a rule that if anyone shoots they will get done in by everyone.
Thats the rule.
Wish,
This implies that there is a definitive and explicit gang hierarchy.
I don’t think there is. In any event, education and opportunities trumps gangs.
If there were why haven’t the police been able to “take down” the organization(s)?
Frank
What makes yout think tha the police (some) aren’t in on it. There is too much going on on this little island for them not too. I think they need to be checked IMO start from the top and work your way down to the small thug on the street not the other way around.
LOL
Quick seaze their assets!!!
Seize!!
Thank you!
Not to be confused with sleaze.
Seriously!! When will this mess end?? What is it really over?? Do we/they even know?? I know that this is not a “PERFECT” world to say the least, but what is all this for?? We have so many young ppl trying to “get in where they fit in”. Wanting to belong, angry at any and/or everybody because of hurts and frustrations. We need to realize that it does take a village to raise a child but so many “villages” are corrupt doing what they feel is right in their own eyes. This is truly a sad state of affairs. But regardless I will continue to be PROUD to be a BERMUDIAN!! I pray for those who have been hurt and/or killed due to this “disease of the mind” and I pray for those who are walikng around with these “diseased minds”. What is the DESTINY of this island………to be a LIGHT in the Atlantic! And it shall!!
Wow….when will it all end. Soon holidays will be associated with violent shootings turning jovial days into mournful ones. So so sad.
What the hell is wrong with these people??? We are to be celebrating our Heritage tomorrow!! Is this what Bermuda means to them?? Is this how they observe our heritage?? At this rate we will never be able to celebrate any holiday cause these idiots will cause the island to be on lock-down – curfew!!
The only thing these thugs know is is death and violence.
Sad but true!
Its a shame that this ignorance must happen before a “holiday”. Im sure the police and or govt would love to shut down the parade and events due to such “inconsiderate” individuals parading bad behaviour.
I do agree.. parents, friends and relatives need to play a part once again..it starts from home..back in the day, you were afraid of your parents..not today “that is unheard of”.
I knew that when I left that school gate ten minutes before the bell “my mother” was recieveing a phone call and a whoop behind followed as soon she hit the door.. So be “PROUD” and stand up for what is right!! When you see wrong happening address it immediately..
One day the village will live in “Harmony”…
Back in the day it was fear of your parents, now the parents fear the children. I find it hard to believe that these parents/family members don’t know what these gang members are up to. I’m sure they do but are enjoying the spoils of their their activities to much to do/say anything about it.
i was wondering what happened guys *eyes rolling*
Broad daylight. Know the area well…”heard shots”…saw nothing…..Irony is a bitch. Maybe they were pissed off that Fat Mans Cafe overcooked their burgers…….
Nah, I undercooked their burgers
seriously though, let’s talk about solutions. Yes we are all upset yada yada, but complaining does nothing.
Most of these guys get shot for a reason. They are gang members. Maybe they shot someone themselves? It’s amazing when a person gets shot, they are the innocent victim.
No I’m not saying that they don’t matter because they are gang members, what I am saying is that since these guys are survivors and their wounds are non-life threatening, they should be interrogated and yes their assets seized until they talk.
This “street justice” and retaliation is never going to end unless the guns are found as well as the shooters. Being upset about it will not fix it. Proper intelligence and interrogation will.
GET THE GUNS!
and what of the young man who was a lcpl in the Bermuda Regiment? my understanding was he was shot because the shooter mistook him for some one else.
I totally agree GET THE GUNS!!! What a way to start off the holiday! Sick b$#tards.
And so another round of candle burning & lamenting can begin along with excuses made by so many.
They are all SUCH nice young men you know. Most have just found the Lord.
Let the BPS harassment begin. Anytime ANY of these gang members are seen out, shake them down. No just cause needed. Make their lives miserable. Book them for any little infraction.
Use thease words to battle this unholy thing
SACERDOS ab Ordinario delegatus, rite confessus, aut saltem corde peccata sua detestans, peracto, si commode fieri possit, Sanctissimo Missæ sacrificio, divinoque auxilio piis precibus implorato, superpelliceo et stola violacea indutus, et coram se habens obsessum ligatum, si sit periculum, eum, se et astantes communiat signo crucis, et aspergat aqua benedicta, et genibus flexis, aliis respondentibus, dicat Litanias ordinarias usque ad Preces exclusive. Postem dicat:
Ant. Ne reminiscáris, Dómini, delicta nostra, vel paréntum nostrórum: neque vindíctam sumas de peccátis nostris.
Pater noster secreto usque ad
V. Et ne nos indúcas in tentatiónem.
VI. Sed líbera nos a malo.
Psalmus 53
Deus, in nómine tuo salvum me fac,
et virtúte tua age causam meam.
Deus, audi oratiónem meam;
áuribus pércipe verba oris mei.
Nam supérbi insurréxunt contra me, et violénti quasiérunt vitam meam;
non proposuérunt Deum ante óculos suos.
Ecce, Deus ádjuvat me,
óminus susténtat vitam meam.
Retórque malum in adversários meos,
et pro fidelitáte tua déstrue ilos.
Voluntárie sacrificábo tibi,
celebrábo nomen tuum, Dómine, quia bonum est.
Nam ex omni tribulatióne eripuit me,
et inimícos meos confúsos vidit óculos meus.
Glória Patri.
V. Salvum (-am) fac servum tuum (ancillam tuam).
R. Deus meus, sperántem in te.
V. Esto ei, Dómini, turris fortitúdinis.
R. A fácie inimíci.
V. Nihil proficiat inimicus in eo (ea).
R. Et fílius iniquitátis non appónat nocére ei.
V. Mitte ei, Dómine, auxilium de sancto.
R. Et de Sion tuére eum (ea)
V. Dómine, exaudi oratiónem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.
V. Dóminus vobíscum.
R. Et cum spírito tuo.
Orémus Oratio
DEUS, cui próprium est miseréri semper et párcere: súscipe deprecatiónem nostram; ut hunc fámulum tuum, quem (hanc fámulam tuam, quam) delictórum caténa constríngit, miserátio tuæ pietátis cleménter absólvat.
DÓMINE sancte, Pater omnípotens, ætérne Deus, Pater Dómini nostri Jesu Christi, qui illum réfugam tyránnum et apóstatam gehénnae ígnibus deputásti, quique Unigénitum tuum in hunc mundum misísti, ut illum rugiéntem contéret: velóciter atténdem accélera, ut erípias hóminem ad imáginem et similitúdinem tuam creátum, a ruína et dæmónio meridiáno. Da, Dómine, terrórem tuum super béstiam, quæ extérminat vineam tuam. Da fidúciam servis tuis contra nequíssimum dracónem pugnáre fortíssime, ne contémnat sperántes in te, et ne dicat, sicut in Pharaóne, qui jam dixit: Deum non novi, nec Israël dimítto. Urgeat illum déxtera tua potens discédere a fámulo tuo N. (a fámula tua N.) +, ne diútius præsúmat captívum tenére, quem tu ad imáginem tuam fácere dignátus es, et in Fílio tuo redemísti: Qui tecum vivit et regnat in unitáte Spíritus Sancti Deus, per ómnia sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
Deinde praecipiat daemoni hunc in modum:
PRAECÍPIO tibi, quicúmque es, spíritus immúnde, et ómnibus sóciis tuis hunc dei fámulum (hanc dei fámulam) obsidéntibus: ut per mystéria incarnatiónis, passiónis, resurrectiónis et ascensiónis Dómini nostri Jesu Christi, per missiónem Spíritus Sancti, et per advéntum ejúsdem Dómini nostri ad judicium, dicas mihi nomen tuum, die et horam éxitus tui, cum áliquo signo: et ut mihi Dei minístro licet indígno, prorsus in ómnibus obédias: neque hanc creatúram Dei, vel circunstántes, aut eórum bona ullo modo offéndas.
Deinde legantur super obsessum haec Evangelis, vel saltem unum.
Léctio sancti Evangélii secúndum Joánnem.
Hæc dicens, signat se et obsessum in fronte, ore et pectore.
In princípio erat Verbum, etc ut supra.
Léctio sancti Evangélii secúndum Marcum
(Mark 16:15-18)
IN ILLO témpore: Dixit Jesus discípulis suis: Eúntes in mundum univérsum, prædicáte Evangélium omni creatúræ. Qui credíderit, et baptizátus fuérit, salvus erit: qui vero non credíderit, condemnábitur. Signa autem eos, qui credíderint, hæc sequéntur: In nómine meo dæmónia ejícient: linguis loquéntur novis: serpéntes tollent: et si mortíferum quid bíberint, non eius nocébit: super aegros manus impónent, et bene habébunt.
Léctio sancti Evangélii secúndum Lucam
(Luke 10:17-20)
IN ILLO témpore: Revérsi sunt septuagínta duo cum gáudio, dícentes at Jesum: Dómine, étiam dæmónia subjiciúntur nóbis in nómine tuo. Et ait illis: Vidébant sátanam sicut fulgur de cælo cadéntem. Ecci dedi vobis potestátem calcándi supra serpéntes, et scorpiónes, et super omnem virtútem inimíci: et nihil vobis nocébit. Verumtamen in hoc nolíte gaudére, quia spíritus vobis subjiciúntur: gaudéte autem, quod nómina vestra scripta sunt in cælis.
Léctio sancti Evangélii secúndum Lucam
(Luke 11:14-22)
IN ILLO témpore: Erat Jesus ejíciens daemónium, et illud erat mutum. Et cum ejecísset daemónium, locútus est mutus, et admirátæ sunt turbæ. Quidam autem ex eis dixérunt: In Beélzebub príncipe dæmóniorum éjicit dæmónia. Et álii tentántes, signum de cælo quærébant ab eo. Ipse autem ut vidit cogitatiónes eórum, dixit eis: Omne regnum in seípsum divísum desolábitur, et domu supra domum cadet. Si autem et sátanas in seípsum divísus est, quómodo stabit regnum eius? Quia dícitis, in Beélzebub ejício dæmónia. Si autem ego in Beélzebub ejício dæmónia, filii vestri in quo ejíciunt? Ideo ipsi júdices vestri erunt. Porro si in dígito Dei ejício dæmónia: profécto pervénit in vos regnum dei. Cum fortis armátus custódit átrium suum, in pace sunt ea, quæ póssidet. Si autem fórtior eo supervéniens vícerit eum, univérsa arma ejus áuferet, in quibus confidébat, et spólia ejus distribuet.
V. Dómine, exaudi oratiónem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.
V. Dóminus vobíscum.
R. Et cum spírito tuo.
Orémus Oratio
OMNÍPOTENS Dómine, Verbum dei Patris, Christe Jesu, Deus et Dóminus univérsæ creatúræ: qui sanctis Apóstolis tuis dedísti potestátem calcándi super serpéntes et scorpiónes: qui inter cétera mirabílium tuórum præcépta dignátus es dícere: Dæmones effugáte: cujus virtúte motus tamquam fulgur de cælo sátanas cécidit: tuum sanctum nomen cum timóre et tremóre supplíciter déprecor, ut indigníssimo mihi servo tuo, data vénia ómnium delictórum meórum, constantem fidem, et potestátem donáre dignéris, ut hunc crudélem dæmonem, brácchii tui sancti munítus poténtia, fidéliter et secúrus aggrédiar: per te, Jesu Christe, Dómine Deus noster, qui ventúrus es judicáre vivos et mórtuos, et sæculum per ignem.
Amen.
Deinde muniat se et obsessum signo crucis, imponat extremam partem stolæ collo ejus, et dextera manu sua capiti ejus imposita, constanter et magna cum fide dicat ea quae sequuntur:
V. Ecce Crucem Dómini, fúgite, partes advérsæ.
R. Vicit leo de tribu Juda, radix David.
V. Dómine, exaudi oratiónem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.
V. Dóminus vobíscum.
R. Et cum spírito tuo.
Orémus Oratio
Deus, et Pater Dómini nostri Jesu Christi, invoco nomen sanctum tuum, et cleméntiam tuam supplex expósco: ut advérsus hunc, et omnem immúndum spíritum, qui vexat hoc plasma tuum, mihi auxilium præstáre dignéris. Per eúmdem Dóminum.
Amen.
Exorcismus
EXORCIZO te, immundíssime spíritus, omnis incúrsio adversárii, omne phantasma, omnis légio, in nómine Dómini nostri Jesu+Christi eradicáre, et effugáre ab hoc plásmate Dei +. Ipse tibi ímperat, qui te de supérnis cæaelórum in inferióra terræ demérgi præcépit. Ipse tibi ímperat, qui mari, ventis et tempestátibus imperávit. Audi ergo, et time, sátana, inimice fidei, hostis géneris humáni, mortis addúctor, vitæ raptor, justítiæ declinátor, malórum radix, fomes vitiórum, sedúctor hóminum, próditur géntium, incitátor invídiæ, origo avaritiæ, causa discórdiæ, excitátor dolórum: quid stas, et resistis, cum scias, Christum Dóminum vias tuas pérdere? Illum métue, qui in Isaac immolátus est, in Joseph venúndatus, in agno occísus, in hómine crucifixus, deinde inférni triumphátor fuit. Sequentes crucis fiat in fronte obsessi. Recéde ergo in nómine Patris +, et Fílii +, et Spíritus + Sancti: da locum Spirítui Sancto, per hoc signum sanctæ + Crucis Jesu Christi Dómini nostri: Qui cum Patre et eódem Spíritu Sancto vivit et regnat Deus, per ómnia sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
V. Dómine, exaudi oratiónem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.
V. Dóminus vobíscum.
R. Et cum spírito tuo.
Orémus Oratio
DEUS, cónditor et defénsor géneris humáni, qui hómine, ad imáginem tuam formásti: réspice super hunc fámulum tuum N., qui (hanc famulam tuam N., quæ) dolis immúndi spíritus appétitur, quem vetus adversárius, antíquus hostis terræ, formídinis horróre circúnvolat, et sensum mentis humánae stupóre defígit, terróre contúrbat, et metu trépidi timóris exágitat. Reppéle, Dómini, virtútem diáboli, fallacésque ejus insídias ámove: procul ímpius tentátor aufúgiat: sit nóminis tui signo + (in fronte) fámulus tuus munítus (fámula tua muníta) et in ánimo tutus (-a) et córpore. (Tres cruces sequentes fiant in pectori dæmoniaci). Tu péctoris + hujus intérna custódias. Tu víscera + regas. Tu + cor confirmes. In ánima adversatrícis potestátis tentaménta evanéscant. Da, Dómini, ad hanc invocatiónem sanctíssime nóminis tui grátiam, ut, qui hucúsque terrébat, térritus aufúgiat, et victus abscédat, tibíque possit hic fámulus tuus (hæc fámula tua) et corde firmátus (-a) et mente sincérus (a), débitum præbére famulátum. Per Dóminum.
Amen.
Exorcismus
ADJÚRO TE, serpens antíque, per júdicem vivórum et mortuórum, per factórem tuum, per factórem mundi, per eum, qui habet potestátem mitténdi te in gehénnam, ut ab hoc fámulo Dei N., qui (ab hac fámula Dei N., quæ) ad Ecclésiæ sinum recúrrit, cum metu, et exército furóris tui festínus discédas. Adjúro te íterum + (in fronte), non mea infirmitáte, sed virtúte Spíritus Sancti, ut éxeas ab hoc fámulo Dei N., quem (ab hac fámula Dei N., quam) omnípotens Deus ad imáginem suam fecit. Cede ígitur, cede non mihi, sed minístro Christi. Illius enim te urges potéstas, qui te Cruci suæ subjugávit. Illíus bráchium contremísce, qui, devíctis gemítibus inférni, ánimas ad lucem perdúxit. Sit tibi terror corpus hóminis + (in pectore), sit tibi formido imágo Dei + (in fronte). Non resístas nec moréris discédere ad hómine isto, quoniam complácuit discédere ab hómine isto, quóniam complácuit Christo in hómine habitáre. Et ne contemnéndum putes, dum me peccatórem nimis esse cognóscis. Imperat tibi Deus +. Imperat tibi majéstas Christi +. Imperat tibi Deus Pater +, ímperat tibi Deus Fílius +, ímperat tibi Deus Spíritus Sanctus +. Imperat tibi sacramentum crucis +. Imperat tibi fides sanctórum Apostolórum Petri et Pauli, et ceterórum Sanctórum +. Imperat tibi Mártyrum sanguis +. Imperat tibi continéntia Confessórum +. Imperat tibia pia Sanctórum et Sanctárum ómnio intercéssio +. Imperat tibi christiánæ fidei misteriórum virtus +. Exi ergo, transgréssor. Exi, sedúctor, plene omni dolo et fallácia, virtútis inimici, innocéntium persecútor. Da locum, diríssime, da locum, impiíssime, da locum Christo, in quo nihil invenísti de opéribus tuis: qui te spoliávit, qui regnum tuum destrúxit, qui te victum ligávit, et vasa tua dirípuit: qui te projécit in ténebras exterióres, ubi tibi cum minístris tuis érit præparatus intéritus. Sed quid truculéntis renitéris? Quid temerári e detréctas? Reus es omnipoténti Deo, cujus státua transgressus es. Reus es Fílio ejus Jesu Christo Dómino nostro, quem tentáre ausus es, et crucifígere præsumpsísti. Reus es humáno géneri, cui tuis persuasiónibus mortis venénum propinásti.
Adjuro ergo te, draco nequíssime, in nómine Agni + immaculáti, qui ambulávit super áspidem et basiliscum, qui conculcávit leónem et dracónem, ut discédas ab hoc hómine + (fiat signum crucis in fronte), discédas ab Ecclésia Dei + (fiat signum crucis super circunstantes): contremísce, et éffuge, invocáto nómini Dómini illíus, quem ínferi tremunt: cui virtútes cælórum, et Potestátes, et Dominatiónes subjéctæ sunt: quem Chérubim et Sérphim indeféssis vócibus laudant, dícentes: Sanctus, sanctus, sanctus Dóminus Deus Sábaoth. Imperat tibi Verbum + caro factum. Imperat tibi natus + ex Vírgine. Imperat tibi Jesus + Nazarénus, qui te, cum discípulos ejus contémneres, elísum atque prostrátum exíre præcépit ab hómine: quo præsénte, cum te ab hómine separásset, nec porcórum gregem íngredi præsumébas. Recéde ergo nunc adjurátus in nómine ejus + ab hómine, quem ipse plasmávit. Durum est tibi velle resístere +. Durum est tibi contra stímulum calcitráre +. Quia quanto tárdius exis, tanto magis tibi supplícium crescit, quia non hómines contémnis, sed illum, qui dominátur vivórum et mortuórum: Qui ventúrus est judicáre vivos et mórtuos, et sæculum per ignem.
Amen.
V. Dómine, exaudi oratiónem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.
V. Dóminus vobíscum.
R. Et cum spírito tuo.
Orémus Oratio
Deus cæli, Deus terræ, deus Angelórum, Deus Archangelórum, deus Prophetárum, Deus Apostolórum, Deus Mártyrum, Deus Vírginium, Deus, qui potestátem habes donáre vitam post mortem, réquiem post labórem: quia non est álius Deus præter te, nec esse póterit verus, nisi tu, Creátor cæli et terrae, qui verus Rex es, et cujus regni non erit finis; humíliter majestáti glóriæ tuæ súpplico, ut hunc fámulum tuum (hanc fámulam tuam) de immúndis spíritibus liberáre dignéris. Per Christum Dóminum nostrum.
Amen.
Thou shall speak English on this forum.
I just researched this omg its the latin rite of exorcism ,mercy so now the gangsters are demonic
LOL
Yea, ummmmm I don’t know if you know but….we speak english. This is pointless without translation
It’s the Catholic prayer of excorsism(sp).
It is in latin – do a cut an paste into Google translate.
SACRED counting from According to order delegatus , duly to confess , either at least corde sin her detestans , to carry through , if you wish to make fit be made hold Sanctissimo Holy mass sacrifice divinoque allied forces piis to anticipate implorato superpelliceo and stupidly violacea enveloped , and in the presence of himself government hostage imprisonment , if you wish he is risk , he , himself and astantes to share signal crucis , and to sprinkle water benedicta , and knees pliant aliis respondentibus dicat Prayer according to order all the way to Prayers exclusive. Afterwards dicatAnt :. That not reminiscáris Dómini , transgression our , or paréntum nostrórum : worthless vindÃctam sumas about peccátis our.
@ Saintiago – seems YOU are battling your own demons!! Latin is a dead language – maybe you should try English – for the living!! lol
Yeah, like prayer has ever solved anything… Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer
you reap what you sow Bermuda.. it was just a matter of time……. shoulda known that the things you let your people do (and get AWAY with) on this island would /will come back to haunt you. Damn shame!!
So QUeen are you not Bermudian? If you are, you are apart of this, just like the rest of us!
If only we listened to Ewart Brown we he insisted drastic measures like swot teams before the violence got out of hand. Ewart that was one issue you correct about.
SWAT teams are for hostage situations etc. They would be useless in responding to the type of crime we have.
Reasons, do you have any clue as what you just wrote, really? “Swot” teams are used for situations. If you don’t have one…well do the research. Lord have mercy……..I don’t even know why I try…..
@ Terry – great comment!! Any comment on the lost latin soul??
OUQ-ATAF-Tnuruf………
Hey Bird! good 2 c u bac in business! thought u left us 4 gud!
LOL….The situation is not funny, but this clown with latin….??
Okay what they meant was the ATF. No need to be condescending. The point is this law enforcement agency has a no nonsense approach. They have a real concern for protecting America and their communities. Bermuda Police Service should take a page out of their book or adopt their mission statement at least! Maybe have a separate entity from the police to deal with this head-on just as the ATF are a separate agency from the police.
Waco ring any bells?
Bang Bang !!!
Santiago said:
The PRIEST delegated by the Ordinary, offer the holy Sacrifice, or at least his own heart, the sins of the detesting the same, was spent, if it be done without difficulty, the most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the help of the divine with pious prayers imploring the, in surplice and purple stole clothed, and his sight, the possessed person, having a bound, if there is danger of, that he , who were standing by himself and his community and sign of the cross, and sprinkle it with holy water, and on his knees to make the responses, he may say the Litany the ordinary as far as exclusive of the prayers. Poster if to say:
Ant. Do not mind, O Lord, our offenses, and / or our parents, nor take thou vengeance of our sins.
Our Father in secret as far to the
V. And lead us not into temptation.
6. But deliver us from evil.
Psalm 53
O God, by thy name save me,
and by virtue of your come, my cause.
God, hear my prayer;
hearken unto the words of my mouth.
For the proud insurréxunt against me, and the violent, I demanded my life;
they have not set God before their eyes.
Behold, God is my helper,
His captive people, he Lord.
To cast back upon evil in the mine adversaries,
and for your faithfulness to destroy ilos.
I will freely sacrifice to thee,
scattered thy name, O Lord, because it is good.
For out of all trouble, has rescued me,
and made my enemies to shame to my eye has seen.
Glory be to be to the Father.
V. Save (-am), make your servant (handmaid).
R. O my God, that trusteth in thee.
V. Be unto him, Lord, a tower of strength.
R. In the face of the enemy.
V. The enemy have no power over him (her).
R. And the son of iniquity be powerless to hurt him.
V. Send him, O Lord, help from the sanctuary.
R. And from Sion protect him (her)
V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto thee.
V. The Lord be with you.
R. Also be with you.
Let us pray
O GOD, whose nature is ever to have mercy and to spare: receive our prayer that this Thy servant, whom (this handmaiden, your wisdom, which) chain of our sins bound the compassion of thy great mercy loose us.
Holy Lord, Father almighty, everlasting God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who did that rebellious and apostate tyrant to the fires of hell deputásti, and who begotten Son, Thou didst send forth into this world to keep him roaring shall wear out the swiftly attend unto make haste to deliver man to your image and likeness created, from the ruin of the noonday devil. Grant unto us, O Lord, thy terror the beast now laying waste your vineyard. Give us faith unto thy servants, to fight against that reprobate dragon most mighty, lest he despise those who put their trust in thee, and do not say, just as in the person of Pharaoh, who I have already said: I know not God, nor set Israel free. Him is to insist upon your mighty hand your servant, N. (From the fact that your N.), + they should no longer presume to lay hands on captive, whom you are in your own image He deigned to make art thou, and thou hast redeemed, in thy Son: Who with Thee liveth and reigneth in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end.
Amen.
Then he commands the demon in the following way:
I command thee, whoever you are, the spirit of the unclean, to any of its allies, and this thy servant of God and (this handmaid of God) were besieging the, by the mysteries of the incarnation, of the Passion, resurrection, and ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ, by the descent of the Holy Ghost, and, by the coming of our Lord for judgment, that you tell me your name, the day and hour of your passing,, by some sign; and that, a minister of God to me though unworthy, I am quite of all things obey his: and neither is this creature of God, and / or bystanders, or any of their goods in any way offend.
Next he reads over the possessed person these things from the Gospel, or at least one.
Reading from the holy Gospel according to Saint John.
Said this, he signs himself and the possessed on the brow, lips, and breast.
In the beginning was the Word, etc, as above.
Reading from the holy Gospel according to Mark
(Mark 16:15-18)
“At that time, Jesus said to His disciples: Go ye into the whole world and preach the Gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. These signs shall follow them that believe, These are followed by: In My name shall cast out devils: they shall speak with new tongues: They shall take up serpents: and if I drink any deadly thing, not to him hurt: lay their hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Reading from the holy Gospel according to Luke
(Luke 10.17-20)
“At that time returned in seventy-two with joy, saying at Jesus, Lord, even the demons are subject to us because we use your name. And he said to them: I was watching Satan fall like lightning that flashes from heaven. Eck I have given you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall hurt you. However, do not us to rejoice in, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.
Reading from the holy Gospel according to Luke
(Luke 11:14-22)
“At that time Jesus was casting out a devil, and the same was dumb. And when he had cast out the devil, the dumb spoke, and the multitudes were in admiration at it. But some of them they have said, by Beelzebub, the prince of devils he casteth out devils. And others, tempting, a sign from heaven then they sought from him. But he seeing their thoughts, said to them: Every kingdom divided against will be destroyed, and the house upon house shall fall. If, however, and Satan is in revolt against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? Since you say that through Beelzebub, cast out devils. If, however, I am in the cast out devils through Beelzebub, in which your children cast them out? Therefore, they shall be your judges. But if I by the finger of God cast out devils: doubtless the is come upon you the kingdom of God. When a strong man armed keepeth his court, in peace, those things are that I possess. If, however, a stronger than he come upon him and overcome him, shall take away all his armor, in which he trusted, and will distribute his spoils.
V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto thee.
V. The Lord be with you.
R. Also be with you.
Let us pray
ALMIGHTY, O Lord, the Word of God the Father, Jesus Christ, Lord and God of every creature, to your holy apostles, who hast given power to tread upon serpents and scorpions; who, among other things of the law that he gave of thy wonders Thou didst vouchsafe to say: “The demons being removed and by whose might like lightning; Satan fell from heaven on your holy name in fear and dread of the might I humbly call on, as unworthy me, your servant, if granted an unworthy servant, pardon for all my sins, steadfast faith, and the power it may please thee, so that this cruel demon, the arm of thy holy name in the power, believe faithfully and with confidence and will set upon this through you, Jesus Christ, O Lord our God, who are coming to judge the living and the dead and the world by fire.
Amen.
Then protect himself and the possessed sign of the cross, places the end of the stole about his neck, and his right hand with his own hand on his head, imposed upon them, he constantly and with great faith, he says the following:
V. Behold the Cross of the Lord, flee, bands of enemies.
R. The Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David.
V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto thee.
V. The Lord be with you.
R. Also be with you.
Let us pray
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, I appeal to thy holy name, and clemency, humbly begging your kindness as well as adversity with this man, and every unclean spirit now tormenting this creature of yours, graciously grant me help. Through the same.
Amen.
Exorcism
I exorcise you, unclean spirit, every assault of the adversary, every specter from hell, every legion, in the name of our Lord Jesus + Christ be uprooted, and flee from this creature of God +. He commands you, who was with you from above into the lower parts of the earth cæaelórum that then he commanded Israel. He commands you, of the sea, to the winds and the storm. Hearken, therefore, and tremble in fear, Satan, you enemy of the faith, the enemy of the human race, of the death Led back robber of life, of justice, you root of all evil and vice, seducer of men, betrayer of the nations, instigator of envy, of covetousness, the origin of the cause of strife, excites, sorrows that I had: Why are you standing , and resist, knowing as you must that Christ the Lord thy ways to destroy? Fear Him, who in Isaac was sacrificed, in Joseph sold to in the lamb was slain, crucified as man, and then was the great triumph, of hell. Following a be made of the cross in the front of the besieged. Begone, then, in the name of the Father, + and of the Son, + and of the Holy + Spirit: give place to the Holy Spirit by this sign of the holy + cross of Jesus Christ our Lord: Who with the Father and in the same Holy Spirit lives and reigns, God, world without end.
Amen.
V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto thee.
V. The Lord be with you.
R. Also be with you.
Let us pray
God, Creator and is the protector of the human race, who made man in your own image, thou hast made, look down upon this Thy servant N., who (this thy servant N., which) is desired tricks of the unclean spirit, whom the adversary to the old, the old enemy of the earth, surrounds us with the horror of the fearful , and the sense of wonder of the human mind fixes the soul, throws, and the fear of the fear of fearful that disturbs. Reppéle, Lord, the devil, and deceitful his snares and remove it at a distance aufúgiat the wicked man is the tempter, let him be thy name on the sign + (on the brow), the servant of your name in (the fact that your a fortified) and be protected in mind (-a) and body. (The three crosses which follow are to occur in the breast of the possessed). You + breast of this keep it internally. You are the bowels of the + form an opinion. You strengthen your heart, +. In the tests of his power, adversatrícis soul fades away. Grant unto us, the Lord, to this invocation of the grace of Your most holy Name of, so that, deterred them have up to now, aufúgiat being afraid, and overcoming them if they go away, and give ourselves can now thy servants unto thy (So much for the fact that your) heart, and confirmed by the (-a) A pure and my spirit was (a), the debt dost service. Through the same Lord.
Amen.
Exorcism
I adjure you, ancient serpent, by the judge of the living and the dead, by the factor, Thy, by the factor of the world, through Him who has the power to consign you to hell, that the defendant did the servant of God N., who (from this handmaiden of God, N., which) ran back to the bosom of the Church, with fear, while the army of thine anger made haste to depart. I adjure you again, + (on the brow) not by my weakness, but by the might of the Holy Ghost, to depart from this servant of God, N., “whereto” (from this the servant of God N., which you) to the image of almighty God has made in His. Yield, therefore, yield not to me, but to the minister of Christ. For it is the urge you to make great, who was with you by His cross. That mighty arm Tremble, who broke with mourning of hell, the souls forth to light. May the trembling that the body of man + (on the breast), let him be unto thee the dread of the image of God + (on the brow). No resistance nor delay shall depart to the of this man, because thou wast pleased to depart from this man, because thou wast pleased Christ dwell in man. And do not think of despising me, a sinner to be a great you know. God commands you, +. The majestic Christ who commands you +. God commands you, the Father +, God the Son commands thee +, commands you + God the Holy Spirit. Mystery of the cross commands you +. The faith of the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, and all the saints commands +. Blood of the martyrs commands you +. Continence of the confessors commands you +. Commander in chief to the pipe Saints, and of pious intercession of all the +. Commands you saving mysteries of our Christian faith +. Depart, then, transgressor. Depart, seducer, full of all wickedness and deceit, and of power of the enemy, persecutor of the innocent. Give place, abominable creature, give place to the, that very impious give place to the Christ, in whom you found none of your works has stripped who was with you, who hath destroyed thy kingdom, bound you prisoner, and the vessels of thy took away much: He has cast you into the outer darkness, where you with the servants shall be prepared on thy of destruction. But what renitéris insolently? What is outraged from the shrink from? You are guilty before almighty God, whose laws you have transgressed. You are guilty before His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, whom did you dare to tempt, and be crucified presumed to. You are guilty before the human race, to whom by your enticements the poisoned cup of death.
Therefore, I adjure you, profligate dragon, in the name of the spotless + Lamb, who walked upon the asp and the basilisk, who has trodden down the lion and the dragon, that you may depart from this man + (sign of the cross is made on the brow), to depart from the Church of God + (sign of the cross is made upon the bystanders): Tremble and flee, as we call on the name of the Lord, whom the denizens of hell cower, to whom the powers of heaven, and Powers, and Dominions are subject, whom the Cherubim and Sérphim praise with unfailing voices, saying: Holy, Holy, Holy, holy is the Lord God of Hosts. Commands you, + the Word was made flesh. Son + commands you of the Virgin Mary. Commands you, Jesus + of Nazareth, who was with you with the despised His disciples, fall down and go out by nothing being thrown down upon, and commanded by men: In whose presence, when you are separating from this man, nor into a herd of swine. Begone, then, now CONJURER in the name of His + from this man, whom is His creature. It is futile to resist His +. It is hard for thee to kick against the + goad. For to the extent more slowly than the existing, so much the more to thee, torment grows, it is not men you are contemning, but rather Him who rules the living and the dead, who is coming to judge both the living and the dead, and the world by fire.
Amen.
V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto thee.
V. The Lord be with you.
R. Also be with you.
Let us pray
The God of heaven, God of Earth, God of the angels, God of the Archangels, God of the Prophets, God of the Apostles, God of the Martyrs, God of Virgins, O God, who has power to grant life after death and rest after toil, for there is none other God but Thee, nor can there be a true , but only Thou, the Creator of heaven and earth, who are truly a King, and of His kingdom there shall be no end; and humbly entreat your glorious majesty, so that this Thy servant (this thy handmaiden,) from the unclean spirits may please thee to deliver us out. Through Christ our Lord.
Amen.
It’s still b*ll*cks, whichever language you use.
Hey I didn’t write it….just provided the translation!
Appreciated.
They’re not demons, they are dumb-@ss kids with guns.
That is the smartest comment on this page!
Sounds like veiled threats to me from Santiago.
Could they be a part of Bermudas…Al Quida…? I feel something there especially6 with that last part. Re-read it……
A great day to all, because tomorrow is going to be a taxing day for all. First 24th May in history that so much will be on the plate…litteraly…..
I command Bernews for always being on top of things but i HATE the comments you get on here sometimes….”We” deserve what “we” get because “we” let them get away with it…QUEEN please do not utter such stupidness…cause its allllll good until it knocks on your door right??…have respect for the families and friends of these people..Positive thought positive vibes positive outcome..its stupid negativity and stupid thougts or comments like that which start in the household which get passed on to the children of the household…have morals and standards and RESPECT cause that is what these fools lack..RESPECT..I wish my grandpa and the grandpa’s around his time where here to witness this crap…TAKE back your HOME..and make sure your children know the life must be valued as well as it is a blessing for being able to live it!!!I swear Bernews you need to start to read these comments before they can be published…
true hurts i know.. when i say “we” .. let me explain….. lets get right to the point of the matter…. “who lets the guns in???” exactly my point……. you and i both know how they get in… cause someone does or has let them in in the past…. it has to be our own .. but anyway… sorry i i offended… but like i said TRUTH HURTS!!
@SICK i totally agree. It starts in the home and is backed up by the community. I’ve lived in this area all my life and it has always been built on respect for ourselves and each other but this is surely testiment to where this island is heading, which is down hill. if more homes and more communities focussed on empowerment and unity half this foolishness wouldn’t even happen. As much as I hope and pray (yes I said pray so get over yaselves) that things won’t go badly tomorrow we can’t ignore the inevitable.
thank you!! its the truth!! If I would see Bermuda investing on the essentials that this island needs in Security of the people and community instead of the things I consider unecessary (in my opinion….) for example… I think there is alot of emphasis on the young adult to Mid-20′s … partying lifestyle… all the clubs … dances…. and what you are promoting to the youth today….. its not healthy!!! Excessive Drinking!! Partying!! Children Having Children!! and most of all the Drinking!! its sad.. cause ill tell you something .. that’s what pushes “people” to do things….. its when they are under the inflence….. I know im rabbling.. however Bermuda needs to WaKe UP!!!
Actually we do read them all prior to posting, they are moderated 24/7…always have been. We do apologize, but we get many, many complaints about censoring too much, and many about not censoring enough. Its a no win situation, as everyone has such wide ranging tastes, we just try and find the middle ground.
You’re doing FINE just the way you are, Bernews. It will always be a ‘damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t’ situation with moderating, so just keep doing what you do — a stellar job!
You guys do an excellent job. If anything there should be less censoring. The only posts that should be rejected are those with excessive foul language and those that are libelous. Keep up the good work. To those that don’t like what they read here the solution is simple. STOP READING! Click the “X” at the top right of your screen and it will all go away….
Bernews bi all day!!!
I LOVE IT!!! Crazy comments and all!!!!
Its just all peoples thoughts and opinions you don’t have to like it
So don’t stress it!! Keep up the good work Bernews!!!
Providing a place for people to to get some S$#T!! and yes i said s%$t…off of their chest!!
no violence!! just speaking out and saying how we really feel!! totally cool
give thanks!!
What if instead of the route being changed for ‘safety’ reasons, the parade and running race had been cancelled? Would it take that decision for us admit that we are bing held hostage by 300+ gang members out of a poulation of 60,000 who have taken over the streets of Bermuda not only in the darkness of night – BUT in broad daylight. Family members who are in the know on details of these shootings, and who are NOT reporting their family members are also being held hostage – the live in fear of speaking out…..
Guys I believe this forum is to reflect on the article not become disrespectful to one another. To the person who wrote the prayer…Are you a gang member or trying to be!
Only god can fix anything.
Name one thing he fixed! If you believe in something it means you don’t know it’s true. You believe it’s true but you can’t prove it’s true. The truth is unbelievable. In order for belief to work you need a lie and thinking is not a skill used by believers. Kill that noise. You know there will never be a divine intervention and you never experienced one. Only laying the smack down on these nut cases can solve anything.
I was beyond sarcastic brah! I saw it up top, ” we cant stop this, its end times” had me losing my faith in humanity…
So we can’t even wait in the bus stops anymore, without feeling like we’re in harms way?! As a student overseas this is not the Bermuda that I want to come home too. Or worse, that I want my brother to come home to, since we know all about these “mistaken identity” shootings.
I completely agree that everyone that gets shot and lives should be seriously interrogated. It might sound like blaming the victim, but that’s the only way to find out why these shootings are occurring in the first place. If we want answers, it’s time to start asking questions. Not just about the individual crimes, but about what kind of society we have created that allows such violence to continue.
No point in waiting in the bus stops anymore
bwwahahahahaaa…
I would love to know why we have cut public school funding/after school programmes etc…. this is where this children get lost in translation and “sitoff” where the older gangsters do…its inevitable they will be coaxed in…!!!??????
why is it that the most important/influential people in this community are paid the least?!!?!? teachers should be paid well and education should be the first thing government should pour funding into…
we might see a very different outcome.
Smart people are harder to lie to.
OK, Bermuda….it’s the lunch hour. Broad freakin’ daylight. Do you knwo where all your family members are? Co-workers? Friends? One of your buddies suddenly sporting a tinted visor? Lost license plate?
Ohhh….I forgot….”not my son; he’s a good Christian boy”; “he respects everybody”; “he ain’t in no gang”…..uh huh.
We all know how GUNS get in the island the same way everything else does…but that has nothing to do with the cistizens of Bermuda…All we can do is be repsponsible for ourselves and loved ones…if i could go down the airport and examine each package that enters this island i would do it my dem self..Lets be logical and remember that Guns do not kill people PEOPLE kill people…all these fools did when they that them in the island was enable our black brothers to be animals because they knew that some of them are weak enough to fall..the media displays that the “ganstas” have a good life so why not hop on the band wagon…however if they had an upbringing were if they went school and even thought about being disrespectful to a teacher and know that they will be dealt with when they reach there gates we would not be discussing this topic as much as we do…TRUTH is that as individuals we can make a difference…and its starts at home..maybe we have no grips on the hooligans that didnt receive home training but if we want the generations to come to be the leaders of our country…than we need to stop being blinded to the fact of what it really is…blame one another will not get anything solved…blame your self if you are a parent that lacks parenting or one on one time with your children…I DO NOT CARE what anyone says but my mother made it a point to raise me and she worked more than one job and I have sibilings..and my FATHER was not in teh house hold..the excuses, the blaming police, politicians, customs officers, whoever.. stop pointing fingers we are a community man this island is way to small to be cornering off parishes because you are not from there…we need people to be examples…and if you think that if one of these killers came on here and read your post QUEEN what will they take from it…Non carish..nonchalant…be wise with your words..actions..because they become who you are….TRUTH HURTS and iggnorance is bliss for some…
aawww i offended you sorry!!! boohoo wake up ok ….. your own people… mine as well….dont get it confused…. are letting the guns in … which gets handed to certain people… and gets used ..point blank period……… im not disputting your mother or whoever didnt raise you right.. however point still is … the Bermudian Airport.. Officials… whoever has the power to let the abombmination into this island( which i know have to be LOCAL) are responsible… PERIOD!!!!!
you are hiding from the truth… Denial is not just a river in Eygpt!! i know i can come Bermuda and get away with alot… its your ways BERMUDA!! STOP RUNNING!!!
thats the whole issue Bermuda dont want to BLAME themselves.. Bermuda will blame it on all the hard working mother’s or father’s grannies and grand-pa’s… but really… who runs this ISLAND ……DUH… i know you know “SICK” thatss prolly why your name “SICK” i would be sick to living in this society that is so quick to point the FINGER….. you guys have strong values and morals.. however are the biggest HYporcrites at the same time…… idk… harsher penalities!!! point bLank!!!
We need smart people like you up there!
Round of applause…to your comment above!
Make change with the generations to come and sit down with the young people to find out where the heads are at!! Positive Reinforcement (the right way)..get on their level i.e. hang out at the movies with them, show them old school fishing of the rock, taking a ferry ride. These are bermudian luxuries we have at our hands for “FREE”! There are people around the world who never get to see such “turqouise” water or cahow’s flocking about in the air, but everyday they must either steal or beg to make ends meet and survive..
Just food for thought!!
Was Jason’s death truly in vain? 3 weeks later and already more gun violence, and for what? The victims were 48 and 39. They are grown ass men. What business do they have with these young fools? I don’t know. When will the violence stop? When will there be a true Govt. crackdown on imported guns and drugs? When will there be a plan that the community can rally behind? As it stands, everyone cries out and complains but nobody has the guts to take a stand for fear of being next. No one person can stand alone. It must truly be a community effort. The community obviously has not “had enough” yet because WE haven’t unified to stop it. When will the gangsters stop it themselves? It takes the deaths of someone too important to both sides for them to realize the foolishness must end. East/West Coast gang shootings in the 1990′s ended after Biggie’s death in 1997 because he and Tupac were the 2 emotional figureheads on both sides. I don’t know if such powerful figures exist in Bermuda’s circumstance, but the fueding sides must come together and resolve whatever differences they have and that will not happen until something drastic occurs
You can tell when people are in vacation mode… Geesh!!!
Yes and the Guns get in and walk to the victims and shoot them…my grandpa always said to me “people say Money is the root of all evil…but the “want” for money is”..and really that’s what it all boils down too..even when it comes to the persons letting the guns in…but a gun is the tool..it does not work on its own..like i said ignorrance is bliss for some…maybe you get a high off of being sarcastic during such serious times..one thing no jokes from my corner when discussing “our people” “our island”..but you won’t catch me on here going back and forth with you…ill let karma do her job while i get back to mines..Prayers up for my island and people like you that walk it in your own shoes and aren’t humble enough to think about what it would be like if you were to try on some one else’s..Happy Bermuda Day to all despite the foolishness we have to be faced with..I will keep my faith…and will never give up on it!!!
The quotation is “the love of money is the root to all evil”
I believe you missed the meaning and it makes sense, being the want of it which is bad, not the money itself.
THE SAYING REALLY GOES AND I quote from the scriptures YES Scriptures for all you religious haters!!! “The love of Money is the root of all evil” Which is oh so true which is why we have all the problems we have today because some people truly do love money they worship it look at it as a god and would do anything for it!!!
(Queen knows what she’s talking bout I just had to put that out there!!!)
because all the ills that we see has everything to do with certain people loving money and wanting more of it!!!
THIS SHIT STARTS AT THE TOP OF THE BERMY LADDER AND THE GUYS IN THE STREETS ARE JUST PONS IN A GAME OF CHESS!!!!
light more candels and pray, that will fix our problem
Now, why didn’t i think of that?
I have read several comments on this thread – - I want to offer up some solutions or remedies to the root of our problem – the need for respect and self-worth.
1. First, we need to de-centralize our education system, i.e. zoning. When we force our students to attend schools based on their location/address (all Sandys students go to Somerset Preschool, then either West End or Somerset Primary, then Sandys, we create the “gang or crew” culture automatically – this needs to stop.
2. Secondly, we need to take responsibility for our kids – individually first then together as a unit. I have my own kids and I make sure they know right from wrong. I hold them to our morales and beliefs and they know that anyone they associate with will be held to the same standards. I don’t force their friends to participate if they differ on religious issues, etc. but the common thread is that there IS A STANDARD – it must be maintained.
3. Third, our Police Service needs to return to being a Force. I am not saying they need to break down doors and rough people up (not all the time), but there needs to be a fear established to maintain order in this island. As a child, we were afraid of the Police and of getting arrested or in trouble – this generation does not have that fear. They did not learn that fear from their parents, grandparents, elders, etc.
It is not too late for us to turn it around from Bermuda. We need to agree that we are willing to do what is necessary for the change to come – think on that and see what thoughts manifest – - –
Yng Black Mind
(those who know understand)
http://yngblackmindbda.blogspot.com
Could I add one suggestion to point #1? Stop the ‘dumbing down’ of the public education system…instead of lowering the pass rate, jack it up higher. Make these kids WORK for good grades instead of just skating through. Instill in the kids from a young age that they’re EXPECTED to graduate (and well) and go on to college. If the parents can’t afford college, there are scholarships available…to the worthy students.Give them something to strive for…
You guys sound like a bunch of babbling idiots- You just need tougher penalties on persons who do these acts- As far as the evolution violence, its not particularly a Bermuda thing as it is a global thing. It takes years to turn around something like this. With proper planning and well funded policies, and a clear vision, Bermuda can bring down the violence. Not to mention there is not much positive to do on the island so this type of thing is going to happen. Bermuda is a great example of what happens when a tiny scale society doesn’t have proper outlets overtime. This is not 1975 anymore its 2011.
No amount of praying will help! The dumb ass’s are ruining the island but what amazes me is the fact that they are all innocent good boys! I believe the last one was a case of mistaken identity which is even more sad as these low lives are sinking even lower! The families know who is doing it but all they are doing are walking round saying ” noo way not my boy” well yes it is your boy but of course when he is shot he will be innocent! Then the candles will be lit, I understand the families grieve their loses…….so stop them before you lose them! As for the Stand up Bermuda group, good on you however I will honor the loss off the innocent but will not honor gang members, or people who have been killed probably because they have killed others themselves! Wake up Bermuda!
This will not end until the highly successful black market of a plant is gone. The bps said it themselves GANGS FUNDED BY DRUG MONEY. Without money their is no power. And no don’t talk no shit about they will just sell other drugs because their has to be a demand for them. If you don’t understand the basics of supply and demand then don’t bother commenting on this. Legalizing the plant will not increase demand for real drugs. Stick with the basics Bermuda supply and demand, economics 101, basic math, etc. Keep it simple, don’t make things complicated for yourselves.
To an extent, I’m inclined to agree with Common Sense about the legalization of a certain substance. However, much caution must be taken when doing so. A change so drastic never works out well. A progressive strategy to gradually bring about full legalization would work, however i’m not sure that users of the certain substance would like the result. Just as with Tobacco, the government would attempt to tax the sale of said substance and control the quantities coming into the island. And as always, the second a government body gets their hands on something, the price gets jacked up and there is a concurrent drop in quality. If it were possible to keep the quality at good levels while allowing entrepreneurs to import and sell the commodity and all other related goods, it would be just like any other commodity that is commonly traded in a capital marketplace. However, many groups and subsects of the island’s community will oppose it on misplaced moral grounds, and the right groups have the right people in the right places to stop such progressive and liberal action from taking place. A perfect example of a country making gradual legalization legal is Canada. In small amounts, there is a “slap on the wrist” punishment. Eventually, there will be no punishment at all, just a tax on those who consume it (which basically is a mild punishment). It’s an option to consider, for sure and one that I am all for discussing. If our politicians had the fortitude in their testicles to do likewise, we’d have an interesting political debate on our hands.
All for it but I think quality will get better and prices will go down..
Come on come on
I see no changes. Wake up in the morning and I ask myself,
“Is life worth living? Should I blast myself?”
I’m tired of bein’ poor and even worse I’m black.
My stomach hurts, so I’m lookin’ for a purse to snatch.
Cops give a damn about a negro? Pull the trigger, kill a nigga, he’s a hero.
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares? One less hungry mouth on the welfare.
First ship ‘em dope & let ‘em deal the brothers.
Give ‘em guns, step back, and watch ‘em kill each other.
“It’s time to fight back”, that’s what Huey said.
2 shots in the dark now Huey’s dead.
I got love for my brother, but we can never go nowhere
unless we share with each other. We gotta start makin’ changes.
Learn to see me as a brother ‘stead of 2 distant strangers.
And that’s how it’s supposed to be.
How can the Devil take a brother if he’s close to me?
I’d love to go back to when we played as kids
but things changed, and that’s the way it is
[Bridge w/ changing ad libs]
Come on come on
That’s just the way it is
Things’ll never be the same
That’s just the way it is
aww yeah
[Repeat]
I see no changes. All I see is racist faces.
Misplaced hate makes disgrace for races we under.
I wonder what it takes to make this one better place…
let’s erase the wasted.
Take the evil out the people, they’ll be acting right.
‘Cause mo’ black than white is smokin’ crack tonight.
And only time we chill is when we kill each other.
It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other.
And although it seems heaven sent,
we ain’t ready to see a black President, uhh.
It ain’t a secret don’t conceal the fact…
the penitentiary’s packed, and it’s filled with blacks.
But some things will never change.
Try to show another way, but they stayin’ in the dope game.
Now tell me what’s a mother to do?
Bein’ real don’t appeal to the brother in you.
You gotta operate the easy way.
“I made a G today” But you made it in a sleazy way.
Sellin’ crack to the kids. “I gotta get paid,”
Well hey, well that’s the way it is.
[Bridge]
[Talking:]
We gotta make a change…
It’s time for us as a people to start makin’ some changes.
Let’s change the way we eat, let’s change the way we live
and let’s change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn’t working so it’s on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
And still I see no changes. Can’t a brother get a little peace?
There’s war on the streets & the war in the Middle East.
Instead of war on poverty,
they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me.
And I ain’t never did a crime I ain’t have to do.
But now I’m back with the facts givin’ ‘em back to you.
Don’t let ‘em jack you up, back you up, crack you up and pimp smack you up.
You gotta learn to hold ya own.
They get jealous when they see ya with ya mobile phone.
But tell the cops they can’t touch this.
I don’t trust this, when they try to rush I bust this.
That’s the sound of my tune. You say it ain’t cool, but mama didn’t raise no fool.
And as long as I stay black, I gotta stay strapped & I never get to lay back.
‘Cause I always got to worry ’bout the pay backs.
Some buck that I roughed up way back… comin’ back after all these years.
Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat. That’s the way it is. uhh
[Bridge 'til fade:]
Some things will never change
Yep, blame it on racism – that’s good. That’ll fix it. Newsflash: Black on black violence ain’t de white man’s doing. You are doing it to yourselves.
Everyone is praying for this to stop full well known this isn’t going to stop no time soon. This gun crime is only going to get worst wayyyy worst before it gets any better here in Bermuda. Its going to take (hate to say this) but a young lady, a innocent kid, or even a white person (not to sound racist) to get killed for the police to really wake up and start cracking down and even if that was to happen will it stop? I doubt it! These guys know who they are going after and why they are after those people and yes someone of the people that have been killed are innocent but it isn’t going to stop them from trying to get there target. The stop and searches are pointless because a message goes around every there is one warning travelers were, when, how, n who they are stopping which isn’t producing anything besides headaches for travelers.
In general, the gun is in your hands. Like Smoky Bear said…omly you can prevent Firearms fires………..
Irony is a bitch yah no.
How the heck is a character out of a story book where there isn’t any clear cut evidence he existed gonna stop all the violence and evil around the world? Come on now really.
‘Truth’, you don’t get it do you. I feel sorry for you and your thoughts.
Secondly, hows a character from the Bible….ah thats right…..you wrote it.
Truth you must be in a deep mice.
I shot de Sherriff, but I did not shot da Deputy.
Even if as 12345 says, a white person gets shot in the crossfire, that won’t stop it. The people perpetrating these crimes still have their target. It might take it to the next level in that more people might believe that an innocent was finally hit. But it would not magically end this terrible part of our history. Only educating our children can change this for the future. Bermuda has failed its young people by letting education collapse. The Government has deliberately dumbed them down so they’ll keep voting for PLP. They just never thought this murderous violence would be the result.
I think Bermuda needs to declare a war on this local terrorism! If obama can go into another country and kill the leader of al Qaida, then our local BPS should do the same in their “back yard!” Time to take action boys!!!
Yo Obama!!!!!!!! Bermuda already has, taken action. There is a subtle differance when you have evidence and for the betterment of the World one takes action.
This is not even ‘apples and oranges’, your talking crap. Really, you are.
It’s hard for a young Bermudian; politics and Government are not ideal, they are taught to have poor work ethics and standards for themselves, most of the time they have 6 brothers and sisters, no dad and no education.They will never be able to buy a house in Bermuda. So what choice do they have? To work as a dishwasher for 15 dollars an hour or be a ‘gangsta’ and make real money and live short?
Hello everyone
I’m a tourist seeking local advice. I visited Bermuda last year (in early may) it is my understanding that the shootings were pretty bad during that time as well, however I felt perfectly safe exploring the island. I live in Chicago where we have more than our fair share of gang problems (5 murders for us would be a slow week). I am curious if you guys feel that some of the gang activity has spilled out from some of the bad neighborhoods or is the island still relatively safe as long as common sense is used. I’m planning on (and looking forward to) coming back in June.
Thanks
-Dave
If you are serious with that question we’d be better off with you not returning.
Ar you serious? I think he’s asked a perfectly reasonable question. News agencies are notorious for getting facts confused, so our current reputation (which sucks) precedes us. Jeez. No wonder our tourists aren’t arriving in droves, if they’re going to be greeted with that attitude.
To Dave: just use common sense as you would when visiting any other place. Stay in the more popular spots (i.e. beaches, pubs etc) and don’t wander too far off the beaten track into badly-lit spots. This doesn’t only apply to so-called “gang” areas, but in any major city around the world if you’re caught unawares you can lose your wallet etc….
I hope you DO come back this year, have a good experience and pass the word on to friends and family.
Dave, speaking statistically, shootings tend to happen within one demographic, and tourists are not targeted in the slightest. Like anywhere one must use common sense here, but it is safe to visit here. Thanks for your interest in our island, and hope to see you come back…
Thank you for the responses everyone, sorry if that was a poorly worded question I didn’t mean to sound like I was taking murders lightly, my apologies if i’ve offended anyone, I was just curious to get an opinion other than what i read in the news.
Can’t we bring some FBI agents to the island and get some answers out of these fools immediately, or take them over to the States to interrogate them. And better still send witnesses overseas so that they can speak freely about what they have seen instead of remaining in the island and fearing for their lives.
This all will end. But it won’t be pretty. Farrakhan told us exactly how this will all go down. So far he has been 100% correct. He said it is systematic. 1.CACHE of guns arrive on island. 2. guns are then dispersed among criminal element. 3. Shooting will commence. 4.They will kill one another 5.Once that gets old they will turn guns on us. 6.Police will arm themselves. 7. Police will shoot, maim and kill your sons if they do not give up that lifestyle. 8. The remaining so called gangstas will fall back or quite the lifestyle and do something else. All will return back to normal. Island’s reputation will be tarnished before returning back to normal.
-nuff’ said
Outcasted……I have no time for Farrakhan but your spot on. He’s been there done that.
Well that’s just it. No one had time for Farrakhan….including the politicians, police, ministers, churches and the list goes on. But like he says this is systematic. What you need to find out is Who is benefitting from all this? Who is getting paid? Bermuda is small. Only a select few individual big shots can bring the drugs in. When there is too much guys trying to get into the game then anarchy ensues. Thus you need to weed out the come ups, thugs etc.. only so much can at at the table at once the rest of them sit around for scraps…getting more and more frustrated. So what they do. turn the guns on the people, rob and kill. Chaos. Things will need to be put in balance… not everyone can be in the drug game its just not enough.
12345: Praying is the same as sitting there and doing nothing but saying, “Oh dear”.
I presume none of the victims shot where of White origin?
@Glock – I’m curious about your question. If they are of white origin… what would that mean to you? If they are not of white origin… what would that mean to you?
Just posted the following in the comments on another story. I think it fits for both stories, for what it’s worth:
Children Learn What They Live
By Dorothy Law Nolte, Ph.D.
If children live with criticism, they learn to condemn.
If children live with hostility, they learn to fight.
If children live with fear, they learn to be apprehensive.
If children live with pity, they learn to feel sorry for themselves.
If children live with ridicule, they learn to feel shy.
If children live with jealousy, they learn to feel envy.
If children live with shame, they learn to feel guilty.
If children live with encouragement, they learn confidence.
If children live with tolerance, they learn patience.
If children live with praise, they learn appreciation.
If children live with acceptance, they learn to love.
If children live with approval, they learn to like themselves.
If children live with recognition, they learn it is good to have a goal.
If children live with sharing, they learn generosity.
If children live with honesty, they learn truthfulness.
If children live with fairness, they learn justice.
If children live with kindness and consideration, they learn respect.
If children live with security, they learn to have faith in themselves and in those about them.
If children live with friendliness, they learn the world is a nice place in which to live.
Copyright © 1972 by Dorothy Law Nolte
l say give them all guns and drugs and let them kill eachother off like their doing. saves us the problems with dealing with them……..LOL……….12 years ago thats what the PLP were saying the UBP did, said they just sat back and let em die, well we never had an era like this before.
Proud to be a f^%king ass
This island puts way to much faith in a supernatural power. How about less time at church and more one on one time with your kids. If you don’t have kids spend time with your nieces and nephews. None of those? Volunteer for an after school program and be a positive force in the community. The education methods of the Church are dated and preach ancient ideas like the inequality of women, eye for an eye etc… These kids need modern knowledge and parents to be proud of.
Most of our responses on this page demonstrate that we are distracted from the issue. The issue is that our young men, predominantly black, find gang life more alluring and fulfilling than home life. If you have no acceptance and structure at home, you look for it elsewhere.
As residents, you can blame the government, teachers, police or churches. But you would be wrong to do so.
The solution is, if you are a parent, to PARENT. What does this mean? You set bedtime. You insist on homework being completed ( and you check it). You put the phone and television off limits during the school week. You show up at all school events. You spend TIME (not money) with your children. You feed them nutritious meals. You insist that they sit at the table to eat dinner with you. You take them to Sunday School. Yes, they will roll their eyes and give you all types of attitude, but that is what kids do. Do not be discouraged.
If you are not a parent, you are probably an Aunt/uncle a family friend, an older cousin or a GodMother/ Father.
The same applies. You insist manners is used when the children are in your care. You use it also. You do not curse while they are in your care. You feed them properly. You hold their hand when you cross the road. You turn off that damm cell phone and instead, pay the child some attention.
My Mother always told me that if she did not pay attention to me, she was worried that some idiot would pay the wrong type of attention to me. I still hear that voice in my head every day. It has made me a PARENT.
in all honestly, after living what i have lived through in the past week in my own home, my perception has drastically changed. we can do the best we can, but it will never be enough for those not living in the situation. in all honesty, Bermuda has always been abused victims, from physical, mental and sexual. we have covered it up for so long and swept it under the rug and acted like everything is fine and moved on. now that a few people are coming to light we are appalled. in all honesty the roosters have finally come home to roost. we can all act like we had no part in it but we all did. we all have family members that have been abused but for their protection we covered it up. now all of that pain and bitterness has exploded. like i said the roosters have come home to roost.
please stop blaming the parents we have done the best we can with the tools given us, and somtimes even that is not enough.